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Reply #30 posted 05/01/18 2:06pm

cloveringold85

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TheDigitalGardener said:

This will be a tsunami of faeces.

I hope you all love it.

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I can not and will not subject my ears to that kind of torture! razz lol

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #31 posted 05/01/18 3:03pm

luvsexy4all

TheDigitalGardener said:

This will be a tsunami of faeces.

I hope you all love it.

fecal matters .....for sure

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Reply #32 posted 05/01/18 3:18pm

mbdtyler

rogifan said:

206Michelle said:
When people cannot cover a Prince song well, it is proof of his greatness; while he may be often imitated, he cannot be duplicated.
The problem is when young people who might not know his music are introduced to it via a bad performance on one of these shows. Like last year when one of Gwen Stefani’s singes did NC2U and it was like a bad mashup between how Prince sang it and Sinead’s version. Needless to say he didn’t move on in the competition. Hopefully Lionel Ritchie can do his music more justice. Katy Perry? Ugh.

So it's better for people to not to be aware of his music at all (even in cover form) than for them to hear a shaky cover that might possibly pique their interest to check out the original? I know American Idol is a dumb show, but I've gotta believe that some people out there can tell that a glorified karaoke performance isn't representative of the original song's quality.

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Reply #33 posted 05/01/18 3:38pm

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mbdtyler said:

rogifan said:

206Michelle said: The problem is when young people who might not know his music are introduced to it via a bad performance on one of these shows. Like last year when one of Gwen Stefani’s singes did NC2U and it was like a bad mashup between how Prince sang it and Sinead’s version. Needless to say he didn’t move on in the competition. Hopefully Lionel Ritchie can do his music more justice. Katy Perry? Ugh.

So it's better for people to not to be aware of his music at all (even in cover form) than for them to hear a shaky cover that might possibly pique their interest to check out the original? I know American Idol is a dumb show, but I've gotta believe that some people out there can tell that a glorified karaoke performance isn't representative of the original song's quality.

People are already aware of his music w/o this show, though. I heard like 3 Prince songs on the radio yesterday. 1999 is one of the biggest songs every written. I guess I just don't understand why they think it's necessary to cover prolific artists like Prince. I certainly would never want to attempt covering a Marvin Gaye or a Stevie Wonder song. If they really really want to be musicians they should have them do their own songs so they can get used to it if they become successful.

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Reply #34 posted 05/01/18 4:28pm

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Graciegirl719 said:

they should have them do their own songs so they can get used to it if they become successful.

Most popular singers/groups in the entire history of the record business did not write their own songs. So that is not important other than making money from songwriting royalties. If the contestants want to be a mainstream success today, then rapping is a better way to do it than being a singer. Hip hop is one of the most popular genres today and has been so for the last 2 or 3 decades. Many of the songs in the Top 10 are rap songs. A lot of hit songs today by singers have a rap feature on it. Kendrick Lamar recently even got a Pulitzer Prize, the first music act to do so that is not classical or jazz. Then there's Cardi B everywhere in the media & on TV. When you see Richard Marx on TV doing a rap battle and The Roots as the house band on the Tonight Show, then that's as mainstream as you can get. lol When Obama was still president, he invited Bell Biv DeVoe to perform Poison at the white house and had Chance the Rapper & other hip hop acts there too.

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Reply #35 posted 05/01/18 4:46pm

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I hope this reaches just one little boy or girl to get introduced to Prince, start listening to "Let's Go Crazy", "Kiss", "Raspberry Beret", then start digging deep into his catalogue, discover "Joy In Repetition", "Dorothy Parker", "If I was Ur Girlfriend", "Bambi", "Private Joy" then some boots "Rebirth of the Flesh", "Extraloveable", "Others Here With Us" and on and on and is inspired to learn instruments and write music and in 10 years kicks everyone's ass with his or her debut and has a 30 year career that inspires even more artists to make even more music and keep Prince and good music alive for 1,001 more years!

I wish u heaven
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Reply #36 posted 05/01/18 4:46pm

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MickyDolenz said:



Graciegirl719 said:


they should have them do their own songs so they can get used to it if they become successful.



Most popular singers/groups in the entire history of the record business did not write their own songs. So that is not important other than making money from songwriting royalties. If the contestants want to be a mainstream success today, then rapping is a better way to do it than being a singer. Hip hop is one of the most popular genres today and has been so for the last 2 or 3 decades. Many of the songs in the Top 10 are rap songs. A lot of hit songs today by singers have a rap feature on it. Kendrick Lamar recently even got a Pulitzer Prize, the first music act to do so that is not classical or jazz. Then there's Cardi B everywhere in the media & on TV. When you see Richard Marx on TV doing a rap battle and The Roots as the house band on the Tonight Show, then that's as mainstream as you can get. lol When Obama was still president, he invited Bell Biv DeVoe to perform Poison at the white house and had Chance the Rapper & other hip hop acts there too.


I would disagree with the "most" part definitely. Also, being a musician is about expressing yourself. If you only go into rap and hip hop because it's trendy right now, then I'm not sure you're such a great musician or even one at all. Also, songwriting or writing your own songs isn't just for royalties. It's just called being a musician. What's the point of calling it your music if other people write it for you? It's just laziness, just like sampling.
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Reply #37 posted 05/01/18 4:48pm

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Spanky said:

I hope this reaches just one little boy or girl to get introduced to Prince, start listening to "Let's Go Crazy", "Kiss", "Raspberry Beret", then start digging deep into his catalogue, discover "Joy In Repetition", "Dorothy Parker", "If I was Ur Girlfriend", "Bambi", "Private Joy" then some boots "Rebirth of the Flesh", "Extraloveable", "Others Here With Us" and on and on and is inspired to learn instruments and write music and in 10 years kicks everyone's ass with his or her debut and has a 30 year career that inspires even more artists to make even more music and keep Prince and good music alive for 1,001 more years!


I hope so too! cool
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Reply #38 posted 05/01/18 4:49pm

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I bet most contestants on AI can't rap their way out of a paper bag. lol

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #39 posted 05/01/18 5:48pm

rogifan

mbdtyler said:



rogifan said:


206Michelle said:
When people cannot cover a Prince song well, it is proof of his greatness; while he may be often imitated, he cannot be duplicated.

The problem is when young people who might not know his music are introduced to it via a bad performance on one of these shows. Like last year when one of Gwen Stefani’s singes did NC2U and it was like a bad mashup between how Prince sang it and Sinead’s version. Needless to say he didn’t move on in the competition. Hopefully Lionel Ritchie can do his music more justice. Katy Perry? Ugh.


So it's better for people to not to be aware of his music at all (even in cover form) than for them to hear a shaky cover that might possibly pique their interest to check out the original? I know American Idol is a dumb show, but I've gotta believe that some people out there can tell that a glorified karaoke performance isn't representative of the original song's quality.


I dunno, I just hope the covers are decent enough. But these shows are pretty bad so I don’t have high hopes.
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Reply #40 posted 05/01/18 6:11pm

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I would disagree with the "most" part definitely. Also, being a musician is about expressing yourself. If you only go into rap and hip hop because it's trendy right now, then I'm not sure you're such a great musician or even one at all. Also, songwriting or writing your own songs isn't just for royalties. It's just called being a musician. What's the point of calling it your music if other people write it for you? It's just laziness, just like sampling.

Just because someone has a songwriting credit doesn't necessarily mean they wrote anything. Anybody can be be credited as long as they're registered at the copyright office. Some bands give everybody in the group a credit, whether an individual member wrote anything or not. Many Lennon/McCartney songs were written separately. Colonel Parker had it set up that Elvis Presley got credits if the songwriter wanted him to record their songs. Some jazz bandleaders took credit for things their sidemen wrote. The manager for the doo wop group The Coasters registered songs the group members wrote under her name and didn't register the actual writers. So she got the royalties. It's been rumored that Beyoncé has changed a line in some songs to get a credit. Some writers have given family members or friends songwriting credits to help them out financially. In the 1970s James Brown had songs registered a few songs under his daughters names to get around the taxman. Record label heads, producers, and managers have also added their names to songs. This happened to B.B. King & Little Richard and many others. There's also the case of ghostwriters in which they get paid a fee, but do not get credit or royalties. The person paying the ghostwriter gets the credit. Anyway, how is hip hop "trendy" if its been popular for decades? That is way longer than disco, grunge, new wave, doo wop, psychedelic rock, glam metal, New Jack Swing, Latin freestyle, nu-metal, and others type of music has remained popular in the mainstream.

Self-writing wan't even a thing until rock magazines like Rolling Stone made it important. Before that, the general public did not care if Perry Como, Dean Martin, Johnny Mathis, or Frank Sinatra wrote songs or not. Few acts wrote wrote their own songs. There were professional non-performing songwriters who did that. That's who wrote a lot of the songs that became to be considered standards.

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #41 posted 05/01/18 6:24pm

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rolleyes

MickyDolenz said:

Graciegirl719 said:

I would disagree with the "most" part definitely. Also, being a musician is about expressing yourself. If you only go into rap and hip hop because it's trendy right now, then I'm not sure you're such a great musician or even one at all. Also, songwriting or writing your own songs isn't just for royalties. It's just called being a musician. What's the point of calling it your music if other people write it for you? It's just laziness, just like sampling.

Just because someone has a songwriting credit doesn't necessarily mean they wrote anything. Anybody can be be credited as long as they're registered at the copyright office. Some bands give everybody in the group a credit, whether an individual member wrote anything or not. Many Lennon/McCartney songs were written separately. Colonel Parker had it set up that Elvis Presley got credits if the songwriter wanted him to record their songs. Some jazz bandleaders took credit for things their sidemen wrote. The manager for the doo wop group The Coasters registered songs the group members wrote under her name and didn't register the actual writers. So she got the royalties. It's been rumored that Beyoncé has changed a line in some songs to get a credit. Some writers have given family members or friends songwriting credits to help them out financially. In the 1970s James Brown had songs registered a few songs under his daughters names to get around the taxman. Record label heads, producers, and managers have also added their names to songs. This happened to B.B. King & Little Richard and many others. There's also the case of ghostwriters in which they get paid a fee, but do not get credit or royalties. The person paying the ghostwriter gets the credit. Anyway, how is hip hop "trendy" if its been popular for decades? That is way longer than disco, grunge, new wave, doo wop, psychedelic rock, glam metal, New Jack Swing, Latin freestyle, nu-metal, and others type of music has remained popular in the mainstream.

Self-writing wan't even a thing until rock magazines like Rolling Stone made it important. Before that, the general public did not care if Perry Como, Dean Martin, Johnny Mathis, or Frank Sinatra wrote songs or not. Few acts wrote wrote their own songs. There were professional non-performing songwriters who did that. That's who wrote a lot of the songs that became to be considered standards.

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Reply #42 posted 05/01/18 7:12pm

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I don’t mind if people can take his song writing and make it their own. It is difficult to do that well and I think it really separates the truly talented and special artists from the ordinary....

I actually like Dwight yoakam’s cover Of purple rain and there is a interesting story to his recording. In some weird way, it works for me.

http://people.com/country...rple-rain/


I also like the Dixie chicks cover of nothing compares 2 u..

And, another reimagining of his music is the album by Susan voelz of poi dog pondering. I’m partial to this one cuz one of the songs she covers is Anna stesia...
http://www.susanvoelz.com/

No one is prince. The same way no one is Whitney or Michael or the Beatles or the stones or Elvis or Sinatra..etc But prince was also a song writer and I think great songs can be performed by a variety of artists and in a variety of styles...
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Reply #43 posted 05/01/18 7:30pm

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Spanky said:

I hope this reaches just one little boy or girl to get introduced to Prince, start listening to "Let's Go Crazy", "Kiss", "Raspberry Beret", then start digging deep into his catalogue, discover "Joy In Repetition", "Dorothy Parker", "If I was Ur Girlfriend", "Bambi", "Private Joy" then some boots "Rebirth of the Flesh", "Extraloveable", "Others Here With Us" and on and on and is inspired to learn instruments and write music and in 10 years kicks everyone's ass with his or her debut and has a 30 year career that inspires even more artists to make even more music and keep Prince and good music alive for 1,001 more years!

I agree...we need to reach out to the young to carry his legacy on even if it is painful to our ears for one night only.

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Reply #44 posted 05/01/18 7:49pm

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Please no more Purple Rain!!! Be ceative.

[Edited 5/1/18 19:50pm]

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Reply #45 posted 05/01/18 10:04pm

206Michelle

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Urgh. The only person I ever wanted to see on AI doing Prince was Prince.


Image result for Prince on american idol gif


lol Look at him grooming himself!
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Reply #46 posted 05/02/18 6:29am

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LadyLayla said:

Please no more Purple Rain!!! Be ceative.

[Edited 5/1/18 19:50pm]


OMG! Totally agree.
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Reply #47 posted 05/02/18 7:35am

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Come on, this is only a good thing. If it makes people more aware of Prince's legacy, how can it be knocked?

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Reply #48 posted 05/02/18 8:43am

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purplethunder3121 said:

Urgh. The only person I ever wanted to see on AI doing Prince was Prince.

Image result for Prince on american idol gif

I remember my mom JUMPING out of her seat when this happened lol lol my WOULD BE stepdad was killing it

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Reply #49 posted 05/02/18 9:05am

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DarkKnight1 said:

rolleyes There isnt one single negative to this. Any focus on Princes music and legacy is a good thing, especially on a stage like American Idol. Sales will again spike and Prince will be a topic of conversation and reverence.

thank you

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Reply #50 posted 05/02/18 9:06am

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purplethunder3121 said:

Urgh. The only person I ever wanted to see on AI doing Prince was Prince.

Image result for Prince on american idol gif

remember he was tweeting as if it was all a false rumor... something about false idols...

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Reply #51 posted 05/02/18 11:06am

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If I hear one more person cover Purple Rain, I'm gonna lose it!!!!! mad mad

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Reply #52 posted 05/02/18 2:44pm

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Check out the article published by Billboard entitled "'American Idol' Prince Tribute: See Which Songs the Top 7 Will Be Singing (Exclusive)":

https://www.billboard.com...op-7-songs
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Reply #53 posted 05/02/18 4:29pm

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Selected songs according to Billboard include:
Kiss
How Come U Don't Call Me Anymore?
Jungle Love
When Doves Cry
Nothing Compares to U
I Would Die 4 U
Manic Monday
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Reply #54 posted 05/02/18 7:20pm

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Mumio said:

I am not going to waste my energy getting upset about this kind of stuff, there's no point. Things have changed and there is nothing we can do about the entertainment deals that are being negotiated by the estate. The bottom line really is making sure Paisley Park has the funding needed to stay open. Deals like this will no doubt be a way of ensuring that. I am also always willing to be pleasantly surprised by those who think they can do his music justice, but no one will ever replace him.

Amen, Mumio. Amen.

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Reply #55 posted 05/02/18 8:04pm

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Graciegirl719 said:

There's this one guy that has like the most country voice I've heard....I'm already cringing.

. Purple Rain is a country song. Really. .

yep... so is "Shy"..

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Reply #56 posted 05/02/18 8:27pm

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The negativity in this thread is over 9000. lol Guys let's give em a chance at least...

I agree with the people who said they're sick of the Purple Rain/When Doves Cry covers though.
Please at least try to be creative with the song choices!

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Reply #57 posted 05/02/18 8:43pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Spanky said:

I hope this reaches just one little boy or girl to get introduced to Prince, start listening to "Let's Go Crazy", "Kiss", "Raspberry Beret", then start digging deep into his catalogue, discover "Joy In Repetition", "Dorothy Parker", "If I was Ur Girlfriend", "Bambi", "Private Joy" then some boots "Rebirth of the Flesh", "Extraloveable", "Others Here With Us" and on and on and is inspired to learn instruments and write music and in 10 years kicks everyone's ass with his or her debut and has a 30 year career that inspires even more artists to make even more music and keep Prince and good music alive for 1,001 more years!

I agree...we need to reach out to the young to carry his legacy on even if it is painful to our ears for one night only.

^ this is what it's all about. I'm so tired of people trying to act like there's a right way or a wrong way to enjoy an artist's music, or to discover an artist for the first time, or promote them to a potentially new audience. Gatekeeping does more damage than good. If you don't want to hear some young folks 'butcher' some of Prince's biggest hits, then don't tune into the goddamn show! I don't like American Idol and don't watch it but I'm happy if they help to remind the general public of Prince's legacy.

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Reply #58 posted 05/02/18 11:48pm

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I am set to RECORD on Sunday! Now.... if I could just get it to stop blinking 12:00 lol


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Reply #59 posted 05/03/18 12:40am

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Selected songs according to Billboard include: Kiss How Come U Don't Call Me Anymore? Jungle Love When Doves Cry Nothing Compares to U I Would Die 4 U Manic Monday

Well, there's at least three occasions where the majority of the USA collectively exclaim "I didn't know Prince wrote that!".

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