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Reply #390 posted 05/15/18 1:10pm

jjam

Yeah but Velvet Kitty Cat is even worse than Purple And Gold. It really is that shit.

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Reply #391 posted 05/15/18 2:07pm

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I've finally seen the Facebook post that's the source of the "WBR will do a Piano + Microphone concert recording release": https://www.facebook.com/...1462400828 .

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Uhm... Seriously? That's the "evidence"?

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Reply #392 posted 05/15/18 7:41pm

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Strive said:

The estate should limit how much they listen to the fanbase solely because we don't have the full picture.

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The general public does not hear hits from Prince anymore so he will fade from public memory.

What remians (for a bit longer) are the fans.

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Reply #393 posted 05/15/18 9:04pm

Strive

udo said:



Strive said:


The estate should limit how much they listen to the fanbase solely because we don't have the full picture.

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The general public does not hear hits from Prince anymore so he will fade from public memory.


What remians (for a bit longer) are the fans.



Honestly, this is such a shortsighted and sad belief. His fanbase has been expanding since his death, his influence will only grow as his music spreads through the culture (a thing Prince blocked while he was alive) and there's probably going to be new generations grooving to new material from the vault long after most us here are dead & gone.

Legacy building is a slow & steady act. Every estate release should grow the myth. Every reissue should be a second chance for that piece of work.

And let's be honest, if the estate released an official version of Work It or City Lights or a boxset of all the post-WB albums for $250+ tomorrow, the same current hardcore base that claims they're the only people left to buy Prince's work would scoff at the idea of spending so much on something they already have. It'd be lucky to move 5,000 copies.
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Reply #394 posted 05/15/18 11:15pm

udo

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Strive said:

udo said:

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The general public does not hear hits from Prince anymore so he will fade from public memory.

What remians (for a bit longer) are the fans.

Honestly, this is such a shortsighted and sad belief. His fanbase has been expanding since his death,

.

How would that work?

No more touring. Just archives to lean on.

No promotion, still the slow on-per-year-ish release pace, unkept promises, unclear communication (if at all).

I see no reason for your growth but that does not mean it is not true if it in fact is true.

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Reply #395 posted 05/15/18 11:49pm

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BartVanHemelen said:

I've finally seen the Facebook post that's the source of the "WBR will do a Piano + Microphone concert recording release": https://www.facebook.com/...1462400828 .


.


Uhm... Seriously? That's the "evidence"?




A reporter in music industry confirm this to one of my contact that i know to be a trusful source...details on 1st of june by WBR...the release is about a Piano&Microphone performance...it seens that the unreleased studio material has been abandoned ..as 1999 Deluxe few weeks ago UNFORTUNATELY!
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Reply #396 posted 05/16/18 12:16am

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love2thenines2003 said:

BartVanHemelen said:

I've finally seen the Facebook post that's the source of the "WBR will do a Piano + Microphone concert recording release": https://www.facebook.com/...1462400828 .


.


Uhm... Seriously? That's the "evidence"?




A reporter in music industry confirm this to one of my contact that i know to be a trusful source...details on 1st of june by WBR...the release is about a Piano&Microphone performance...it seens that the unreleased studio material has been abandoned ..as 1999 Deluxe few weeks ago UNFORTUNATELY!


Talk about mixed emotions. I totally want Piano & Microphone. It represents the last creative expression of Prince and the bookend to his career. So absolutely totally want it.

However, I really liked and was excited by the idea that WB would be releasing another collection of 80s vault music (though TBF they never actually said that, it was just implied from the interview with Troy) as well as an album of "new/newer" material via Tidal next year. Seemed like best of both worlds.
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
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Reply #397 posted 05/16/18 12:46am

Strive

udo said:

Strive said:

udo said: Honestly, this is such a shortsighted and sad belief. His fanbase has been expanding since his death,

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How would that work?

No more touring. Just archives to lean on.

No promotion, still the slow on-per-year-ish release pace, unkept promises, unclear communication (if at all).

I see no reason for your growth but that does not mean it is not true if it in fact is true.


Record sales exploded after his death. Numerous large scale tributes. Prince related groups back on the road. Being covered by other artists and featured on that music competition.

Licensing his music out to TV and movies is going to be the biggest weapon the Estate has in the future. There's no Prince standing in the way to block a filmmaker from using one of his older songs like he did with The Most Beautiful Girl In The World and Kevin Smith. The more places his music pops up, the more the public will take notice. He'll become intertwined with pop culture.

The estate is still fighting with each other in court and we're already getting 2 posthumous albums from 2 different Prince eras by the end of 2019 with things like First Ave 83 being shopped around. That's about as good as you can expect, even if they were operating at 100%, since they aren't going to flood the market with material. Dagger Records, which was operated by Experience Hendrix and had the sole mission of releasing offical bootlegs, only released 1 new title a year.

April 2016, Prince passes. June 2017, Purple Rain Deluxe. September 2018, [untitled WB album]. 2019, [untitlted Tidal album]. That's pretty solid.

Hopefully things can ramp up and expand once all the legal issues are settled. The post Warner albums need to be brought back into print ASAP. And the market should be able to support 1 new album, 1 live album and 1 "Deluxe" edition a year, eventually. Although the definition of Deluxe album probably needs to change. They can't keep including From The Vault discs if they're going to continue doing "new" albums.

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Reply #398 posted 05/16/18 7:13am

TheFman

I couldn't care for any Piano + Microphone concert, I want Studio Material!! New old songs!!!

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Reply #399 posted 05/16/18 8:10am

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I'm down for any new release.

99.9% of everything I say is strictly for my own entertainment
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Reply #400 posted 05/16/18 8:22am

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Militant said:

AhPook said:

And just because something has been heavily leaked shouldn't mean the law-abiding public wont ever get the chance to hear it.


That's not the point I was making.

Consider this : Would fans have been more excited about "Prince 4Ever" if the unreleased song on it, was a completely unheard 1983 song, as opposed to "Moonbeam Levels"?

The answer is yes. And the mood/hype of the fanbase around a release feeds into the wider public.


For most of the public, "Moonbeam Levels" was a completely unheard song. Complaining that you already have something on a bootleg is like complaining that the car you stole only has a quarter tank of gas.

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Reply #401 posted 05/16/18 8:50am

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AhPook said:

Militant said:


That's not the point I was making.

Consider this : Would fans have been more excited about "Prince 4Ever" if the unreleased song on it, was a completely unheard 1983 song, as opposed to "Moonbeam Levels"?

The answer is yes. And the mood/hype of the fanbase around a release feeds into the wider public.


For most of the public, "Moonbeam Levels" was a completely unheard song. Complaining that you already have something on a bootleg is like complaining that the car you stole only has a quarter tank of gas.






And you're still missing the point.

The public anticipation for a release comes from the fanbase. If the hardcore fanbase is enthusiastic about a release, the enthusiasm spreads to everyone else. That is how it works. I cannot tell you how many people got in touch with me about 4Ever and Purple Rain Deluxe. Or how many people clicked over here to see what people were saying about the releases.

And the response, from this fanbase, was middling, because it is a song that everyone has had for years. Whether you agree with that reaction or not is besides the point - that is simply the fact of what happened.

The only way around this would have been to spend money on marketing the song as a single, to get radio play, maybe make a video for it as they have done for NC2U. They didn't do that, so it is what it is.







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Reply #402 posted 05/16/18 10:37am

luvsexy4all

have the estate
GIVE ALL the fans and orgers T-SHIRTS with CD/DVD rlease pics...what betta way to promote?

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Reply #403 posted 05/16/18 12:44pm

Strive

Eh, it isn't like uncirculating songs are immune from getting a middling response here. How many gems popped out from the elite vs Eye Records fight and how many of them recieved a big response once the initial excitement of 'new leaks' died down? Not many.

Moonbeam Levels had clips of it played on TV around the time of release. Wally may have been a more exciting choice for the hardcore fanbase but the casual/potential fan would've been ???



Wally's genius but you need to know the story behind it and live with the song a bit to truly appreciate it.

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Reply #404 posted 05/16/18 1:17pm

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For what it’s worth I think the estate will have to find the right balance. Of course the ‘classic’ outtakes shoukd get an official release. From All My Dreams to Eye Wonder, these fantastic songs that we’ve known for years are still officially unreleased and that needs to change. But if that’s all we get it will be very frustrating and after a while I can’t see myself caring enough to buy the official releases. After all until two years ago I was supporting Prince by buying his music. Now I’d be supporting the faceless estate and his siblings, some of whom had very little to do with Prince while he was still alive.
With all its flaws (and they’ve been discussed quite extensively), I think the Purple Rain remaster got it about right when it comes to unreleased material - some great songs that we already knew and a few that I wasn’t familiar with which I absolutely love (We Can Fuck, Father’s Song, Love and Sex, Possessed and Electric Intercourse are all amazing!)
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Reply #405 posted 05/17/18 12:43am

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Militant said:

And the response, from this fanbase, was middling, because it is a song that everyone has had for years. Whether you agree with that reaction or not is besides the point - that is simply the fact of what happened.

The only way around this would have been to spend money on marketing the song as a single, to get radio play, maybe make a video for it as they have done for NC2U. They didn't do that, so it is what it is.

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It would also have helped if the sound quality had been amazing. And that it wasn't a blatant effort at getting fans to buy a disappointing collection.

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Reply #406 posted 05/17/18 12:45am

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Strive said:

Eh, it isn't like uncirculating songs are immune from getting a middling response here. How many gems popped out from the elite vs Eye Records fight and how many of them recieved a big response once the initial excitement of 'new leaks' died down? Not many.

.

That's because those are often unstructured leaks, and the initial reaction is "where can I find this". Plus there's also the "leakers vs bootleggers" story that gets mixed in there.

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Reply #407 posted 05/17/18 7:23am

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Strive said:


Hopefully things can ramp up and expand once all the legal issues are settled. The post Warner albums need to be brought back into print ASAP. And the market should be able to support 1 new album, 1 live album and 1 "Deluxe" edition a year, eventually. Although the definition of Deluxe album probably needs to change. They can't keep including From The Vault discs if they're going to continue doing "new" albums.

Yeah right. Dream on.

This will never happen imho.

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Prince's fanbase is over 40/50 years old, and no, it isn't growing.

It might be that there's some more interests just up until now, but years go by fast, and Prince finally will be forgotten by most.

I'm affraid that we are the walking wallets for the estate and WB, if they dicide to release something from the eighties or his much beloved vault.

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I considder it a wise (music industry) decision from a money-making-machine's point of view, to release the live music of the Piano & Microphone tour. It's much more obvious, and albeit a good decision.

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An expanded '1999' album release would not make it I'm afraid, although it's that what I want.

"...no matter what, all will be fine, always."
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Reply #408 posted 05/17/18 9:57am

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Vannormal said:

Strive said:


Hopefully things can ramp up and expand once all the legal issues are settled. The post Warner albums need to be brought back into print ASAP. And the market should be able to support 1 new album, 1 live album and 1 "Deluxe" edition a year, eventually. Although the definition of Deluxe album probably needs to change. They can't keep including From The Vault discs if they're going to continue doing "new" albums.

Yeah right. Dream on.

This will never happen imho.

-

Prince's fanbase is over 40/50 years old, and no, it isn't growing.

It might be that there's some more interests just up until now, but years go by fast, and Prince finally will be forgotten by most.

I'm affraid that we are the walking wallets for the estate and WB, if they dicide to release something from the eighties or his much beloved vault.

-

I considder it a wise (music industry) decision from a money-making-machine's point of view, to release the live music of the Piano & Microphone tour. It's much more obvious, and albeit a good decision.

-

An expanded '1999' album release would not make it I'm afraid, although it's that what I want.

You're wrong. There are youngsters out there (myself included) who came to Prince after his death.

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Reply #409 posted 05/17/18 6:31pm

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FullLipsDotNose said:

Vannormal said:

Yeah right. Dream on.

This will never happen imho.

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Prince's fanbase is over 40/50 years old, and no, it isn't growing.

It might be that there's some more interests just up until now, but years go by fast, and Prince finally will be forgotten by most.

I'm affraid that we are the walking wallets for the estate and WB, if they dicide to release something from the eighties or his much beloved vault.

-

I considder it a wise (music industry) decision from a money-making-machine's point of view, to release the live music of the Piano & Microphone tour. It's much more obvious, and albeit a good decision.

-

An expanded '1999' album release would not make it I'm afraid, although it's that what I want.

You're wrong. There are youngsters out there (myself included) who came to Prince after his death.


Right on.

Van, how do you explain then 3 million and half views for NC2U? We're not that many hardcore fans.

How do you explain Bob Marley, The Beatles, Nirvana all made the Billboard albums last year?
Elvis? Still sells. Led Zep? Still sells. Fleetwood Mac? Abba?

When an artist produces quality, it lasts. Pop music ain't gonna morph into serial dodecaphonic music any day soon.
And the current state of pop is bound to die, you can't repeat yourself for more than thirty decades.
The pattern will still be intro-verse-chorus-verse-bridge-solo-chorus ad lib.
Or a combination of the above. But the fundamentals are there.

Trust us, the young generation knows better.
While autotune may still seduce nine-year-olds,
by thirteen you discover stuff. And since the eighties revival seems to last forever,
since vinyl is back for good, there's no reason to think the champion of them all
is not going to appeal to veryone.

It's not one Prince you have to sell to the public.
It's many, and we're pretty sharp. Prince could have done Purple Rain ad æternam and amass a fortune, bigger than Abba's and Queen combined. He just remembered he's from Uptown.

Fuck NYC, fuck LA, fuck their coke and poses,
I'm staying at home. Sure, it's a huge bet to build a state-of-the-art recording and rehearsing complex,
but hey, it's my money.

The problem with Prince's work, it's that it's just so fucking vast, not only in terms of quantity, but also spread. There a re very few genres he didn't get his hands own and did something interesting, if not mind-boggling.

So how do you get a newbie to grasp how much Prince has been able to bring to the genre? It's no wonder they try to use Purple Rain as the entrance, and rightfully so. By now we're all accustomed to Purple Rain, but this album changed my life forever, and a lot of other lives, as far as I am on the Org.

I don't expect everybody to react as strongly, but you can't ignore it. It's too bold a musical statement, it rips apart your will, it's a fusion of so many genres, and yet it's almost like there's no influence at all, Prince steals everything pop has digested so far and shows it still can be exciting, wild, sexual, romantic, bluesy, spiritual, crazay and longing.

Prince is over-the-chart Pure Grain Vodka.
The public is used to Bud Light®.
Therein lies the problem.


[Edited 5/17/18 18:40pm]

The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
No Child's a failure
Until the Blue Sailboat sails him away from his dreams
Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose
Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams
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Reply #410 posted 05/18/18 2:29am

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bonatoc said:

FullLipsDotNose said:

You're wrong. There are youngsters out there (myself included) who came to Prince after his death.


Right on.

Van, how do you explain then 3 million and half views for NC2U?

.

Since when is watching a FREE video the same as BUYING an album?

.

How do you explain Bob Marley, The Beatles, Nirvana all made the Billboard albums last year?
Elvis? Still sells. Led Zep? Still sells. Fleetwood Mac? Abba?

.

You're naming artists who've always sold well. Often far more than Prince when he was alive. Marley's greatest hits is usually the best selling reggae album each year, often by a wide margin. Also note that there is plenty of effort going into archival releases for these artists. For Nirvana they even remixed an album because the well of unreleased music has long dried up.

.

Several of those are also artists who help sell magazines. Mojo has at least one Beatles / Zep / etc. cover per year because those are instant sellers. But when mags put Prince on their cover? A big fat nope. (And please, no BS about the "well what about all the mags after his death BS. Completely different circumstances.)

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Reply #411 posted 05/18/18 2:29am

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FullLipsDotNose said:

You're wrong. There are youngsters out there (myself included) who came to Prince after his death.

.

Anecdotes aren't data.

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Reply #412 posted 05/18/18 7:27am

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BartVanHemelen said:

FullLipsDotNose said:

You're wrong. There are youngsters out there (myself included) who came to Prince after his death.

.

Anecdotes aren't data.

I never understood how U was EVER a fan of Prince. disbelief

So Prince, whom fought 4 his first record deal & got it, fought 4 a movie deal & got it, fought 4 freedom from his WB contract & got it, fought 4 his masters & got them.Gets a curable illness & says 2 himself ok, I'm done RJP1205 rolleyes
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Reply #413 posted 05/18/18 8:14am

udo

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ChocolateBox3121 said:

BartVanHemelen said:

.

Anecdotes aren't data.

I never understood how U was EVER a fan of Prince. disbelief

.

So you are reflecting about the shape of things but not about the contents.

Why did you deviate? You cannot admit truth?

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Reply #414 posted 05/18/18 9:15am

feeluupp

Wax Poetics won't agree with you...

BartVanHemelen said:

bonatoc said:

.

Since when is watching a FREE video the same as BUYING an album?

.

How do you explain Bob Marley, The Beatles, Nirvana all made the Billboard albums last year?
Elvis? Still sells. Led Zep? Still sells. Fleetwood Mac? Abba?

.

You're naming artists who've always sold well. Often far more than Prince when he was alive. Marley's greatest hits is usually the best selling reggae album each year, often by a wide margin. Also note that there is plenty of effort going into archival releases for these artists. For Nirvana they even remixed an album because the well of unreleased music has long dried up.

.

Several of those are also artists who help sell magazines. Mojo has at least one Beatles / Zep / etc. cover per year because those are instant sellers. But when mags put Prince on their cover? A big fat nope. (And please, no BS about the "well what about all the mags after his death BS. Completely different circumstances.)

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Reply #415 posted 05/18/18 10:26am

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BartVanHemelen said:

FullLipsDotNose said:

You're wrong. There are youngsters out there (myself included) who came to Prince after his death.

.

Anecdotes aren't data.

If you say that Prince's fans are over 40 and there are none coming and someone younger than 40 or a new fan comes to you, they don't need statistics - they are a sufficient contradiction to your statements.

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Reply #416 posted 05/18/18 10:37am

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udo said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

I never understood how U was EVER a fan of Prince. disbelief

.

So you are reflecting about the shape of things but not about the contents.

Why did you deviate? You cannot admit truth?

rolleyes

So Prince, whom fought 4 his first record deal & got it, fought 4 a movie deal & got it, fought 4 freedom from his WB contract & got it, fought 4 his masters & got them.Gets a curable illness & says 2 himself ok, I'm done RJP1205 rolleyes
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Reply #417 posted 05/18/18 10:59am

Militant

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BartVanHemelen said:

Militant said:

And the response, from this fanbase, was middling, because it is a song that everyone has had for years. Whether you agree with that reaction or not is besides the point - that is simply the fact of what happened.

The only way around this would have been to spend money on marketing the song as a single, to get radio play, maybe make a video for it as they have done for NC2U. They didn't do that, so it is what it is.

.

It would also have helped if the sound quality had been amazing. And that it wasn't a blatant effort at getting fans to buy a disappointing collection.




Agreed. Unfortunately the collection was both too early and too late. Too early because they rushed it out without the care to do an amazing job. Too late cuz the public already streamed everything they wanted to in the months leading up to it.


Ah well. I still bought it, and tried to be optimistic at the time. But more effort should have been put in.




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Reply #418 posted 05/18/18 11:38am

luvsexy4all

bonatoc said:

FullLipsDotNose said:

You're wrong. There are youngsters out there (myself included) who came to Prince after his death.


Right on.

Van, how do you explain then 3 million and half views for NC2U? We're not that many hardcore fans.

How do you explain Bob Marley, The Beatles, Nirvana all made the Billboard albums last year?
Elvis? Still sells. Led Zep? Still sells. Fleetwood Mac? Abba?

When an artist produces quality, it lasts. Pop music ain't gonna morph into serial dodecaphonic music any day soon.
And the current state of pop is bound to die, you can't repeat yourself for more than thirty decades.
The pattern will still be intro-verse-chorus-verse-bridge-solo-chorus ad lib.
Or a combination of the above. But the fundamentals are there.

Trust us, the young generation knows better.
While autotune may still seduce nine-year-olds,
by thirteen you discover stuff. And since the eighties revival seems to last forever,
since vinyl is back for good, there's no reason to think the champion of them all
is not going to appeal to veryone.

It's not one Prince you have to sell to the public.
It's many, and we're pretty sharp. Prince could have done Purple Rain ad æternam and amass a fortune, bigger than Abba's and Queen combined. He just remembered he's from Uptown.

Fuck NYC, fuck LA, fuck their coke and poses,
I'm staying at home. Sure, it's a huge bet to build a state-of-the-art recording and rehearsing complex,
but hey, it's my money.

The problem with Prince's work, it's that it's just so fucking vast, not only in terms of quantity, but also spread. There a re very few genres he didn't get his hands own and did something interesting, if not mind-boggling.

So how do you get a newbie to grasp how much Prince has been able to bring to the genre? It's no wonder they try to use Purple Rain as the entrance, and rightfully so. By now we're all accustomed to Purple Rain, but this album changed my life forever, and a lot of other lives, as far as I am on the Org.

I don't expect everybody to react as strongly, but you can't ignore it. It's too bold a musical statement, it rips apart your will, it's a fusion of so many genres, and yet it's almost like there's no influence at all, Prince steals everything pop has digested so far and shows it still can be exciting, wild, sexual, romantic, bluesy, spiritual, crazay and longing.

Prince is over-the-chart Pure Grain Vodka.
The public is used to Bud Light®.
Therein lies the problem.


[Edited 5/17/18 18:40pm]

but..those artists mentioned who STILL sell...thats ESTABLISHED music..not unreleased stuff no one trusts YET to be up to par

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Reply #419 posted 05/18/18 1:07pm

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FullLipsDotNose said:

Vannormal said:

Yeah right. Dream on.

This will never happen imho.

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Prince's fanbase is over 40/50 years old, and no, it isn't growing.

It might be that there's some more interests just up until now, but years go by fast, and Prince finally will be forgotten by most.

I'm affraid that we are the walking wallets for the estate and WB, if they dicide to release something from the eighties or his much beloved vault.

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I considder it a wise (music industry) decision from a money-making-machine's point of view, to release the live music of the Piano & Microphone tour. It's much more obvious, and albeit a good decision.

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An expanded '1999' album release would not make it I'm afraid, although it's that what I want.

You're wrong. There are youngsters out there (myself included) who came to Prince after his death.

There wil always be youngsters like yourself who will discover Prince (after his death). I fully agree.

But that doesn't indicates that his fanbase will grow. Let's see if I'm wrong in two years from now ?

And I have no problem with admitting that I should or could be wrong. smile (I absolutely don't)

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By the way, WELCOME to the most incredible Purple Musical labirynth and one of the hardest working performers, ever ! biggrin Enjoy it.

"...no matter what, all will be fine, always."
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