cloveringold85 said:

I understand how you feel. I just discovered the info and the pics are out there and have been a tad obsessed combing through it all. I actually loved seeing the Vault pics and trying to figure out what is in there. But seeing the pics of his living quarters and hearing details of his final hours were very depressing. That pic of him walking in Walgreens...he was so thin and guant. It's obvious something was very wrong. I miss him and want to focus on the music...but these pics are very humbling and bring a very basic element to it all.

rogifan said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I understand how you feel, but don't you think that the people who did Prince wrong should be held accountable? Why should it all just be swept under the carpet? News is coming out that his associates were stealing money from him. They knew he was sick and they waited around for him to die so they could collect. There are no words for people like that!!

But what can you or I do about it?

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Just pray and hope for the best, and justice for Prince.

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There is a saying from Buddha that I love:

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Is there a problem? YES

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Can you fix it? NO

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THEN DONT WORRY!!

rogifan said:

cloveringold85 said:

NotACleverName said:

cloveringold85 said:

Have you ever been lied to? Have you ever had a dear friend betray you? Do you know what that kind of emotional pain feels like? Have you ever lost a loved one? Seems as though you don't care that Prince had enablers and he was being used. I guess you don't value those kinds of things? To say that some of us are "patting each other on the bacK" and trying to be hero's.....I just don't get your line of thinking. I find your comments to be insulting and uncalled for.

Clover, you and I rarely (ok....never) agree but with the bolded? Yes. Those of us who choose to view, disect, ponder, etc., the case files are no more, or less, fans of Prince. I know I do it because I am trying to understand how a man with this much talent, drive, success, devotion succumbed to such an insidious disease and why no one could help him find his way back from it.

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IKR?

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I am generally a peaceful and loving person and I don't enjoy conflict. I get upset when people try to imply that what we are doing is wrong or trying to pat ourselves on the back (or whatever). I mean, really!

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None of us are looking for any type of reward -- only the TRUTH!!

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God knows, I wish Prince was still here -- I hate this shit (and I don't like saying hate either).

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The problem is we’re never going to find the whole truth. The only one who knows is no longer here. Instead what we get are assumptions and speculations (based on the information we do have) presented as truth. Go through all the interviews....how do we know who to believe and who’s lying or only telling partial truth? And are they doing this to protect themselves or Prince’s privacy or both?

I’m disgusted that all this private information is now public, available for anyone to download and view. It’s appalling that any media outlet or fan on social media would show photos of his dead body. Makes me sick to my stomach. I don’t need to know the private hell he was going through. If he wanted to share that with fans he would have done so. And yes I wish he was still here too.

cloveringold85 said:

Poplife88 said:

cloveringold85 said:

cloveringold85 said:

rogifan said:

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There is a saying from Buddha that I love:

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Is there a problem? YES

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Can you fix it? NO

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THEN DONT WORRY!!

I think I'm gonna adopt that for my new slogan...

purplefam99 said:

something that relieved some of my stress. i went to celebration this year and i went on the Chazz

tour. it relieved me to hear him say that Prince didn't go without love as a child. He had love coming

from all angles. Aunties, his Grandma and and Chazz's grandma and ladies who where like family in the community. He said it makes the family so

sad to hear people say he went unloved. he said it is not true. He said that Prince was strong

willed and simply didn't want to follow the rules most times. He said once he was asked to do his

chores before going out to be with friends and P refused. He said that he said to P, "hey man all you(we) have to do is do these few chores and we are out of here" and P said no i don't wanna. Chazz was articulate and honest i felt in his telling of moments in P's life that he shared. this

really relieved some deep sadness that i had about that being a dominant narrative of his life.

i hope in a way this relieves someone else who may have stress about him being young and unloved.

best.

to add all the above that i said Chazz said, was said with love and humor in my view.

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That's great that you went to the Celebration, purplefam. The Chazz tour sounds like some fresh input. We don't think sometimes, about the people who knew him and how they felt about him. XO

poppys said:

purplefam99 said:

Krystalkisses said:

cloveringold85 said:

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News is coming out that his associates were stealing money from him. They knew he was sick and they waited around for him to die so they could collect. There are no words for people like that!!

Whoa what???? Is that actually true???If it is..then that is shady. I swear fame attracts the scummiest types of people I swear. Dang Prince probably wasn't thinking clearly at all .

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According to Debra Johnson's statement, it kinda looks that way.

cloveringold85 said:

Krystalkisses said:

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News is coming out that his associates were stealing money from him. They knew he was sick and they waited around for him to die so they could collect. There are no words for people like that!!

News from who? What's the source?

rogifan said:

cloveringold85 said:

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According to Debra Johnson's statement, it kinda looks that way.

Who is a Debra Johnson?

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She used to work for Prince and handle his publishing, before Phaedra took it over. She left in 2012.

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It's in the investigation files, #172 - Debra Johnson statement with Detective Wagner .

purplethunder3121 said:

Krystalkisses said:

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News is coming out that his associates were stealing money from him. They knew he was sick and they waited around for him to die so they could collect. There are no words for people like that!!

News from who? What's the source?

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It's all in the investigation files at Carver County website.

pnv said:

Really feeling sad and stressed.... I guess I should have never read Prince Investigative Files😢😢

many are so confused...it's like when a member of your family let you down / go through bad shit or both! - the love remains BUT gets squashed down in negative emotion. Gradually the positivity will come back....bloody awful time right now.

cloveringold85 said:

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

pnv said:

Really feeling sad and stressed.... I guess I should have never read Prince Investigative Files😢😢

many are so confused...it's like when a member of your family let you down / go through bad shit or both! - the love remains BUT gets squashed down in negative emotion. Gradually the positivity will come back....bloody awful time right now.

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Agreed. I went to bed last night feeling totally confused by all of this. The lies, the secrecy, by Prince and all his associates. Now, the cover up and more lies.....it's just too much!

rogifan said:

cloveringold85 said:

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She used to work for Prince and handle his publishing, before Phaedra took it over. She left in 2012.

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It's in the investigation files, #172 - Debra Johnson statement with Detective Wagner .

So she’s accusing Phaedra of stealing money from Prince.

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Yes, basically, that is what she said. Crystal Z (she left in 2012), also implied that and said the people who are keeping quiet are the one's the detectives need to pay attention to.

cloveringold85 said:

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

many are so confused...it's like when a member of your family let you down / go through bad shit or both! - the love remains BUT gets squashed down in negative emotion. Gradually the positivity will come back....bloody awful time right now.

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Agreed. I went to bed last night feeling totally confused by all of this. The lies, the secrecy, by Prince and all his associates. Now, the cover up and more lies.....it's just too much!

I feel ya.

I actually looked up the the word "Disillusionment" in the dictonary the other day to see if it accuratley described how I feel. And yes.

Krystalkisses said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Agreed. I went to bed last night feeling totally confused by all of this. The lies, the secrecy, by Prince and all his associates. Now, the cover up and more lies.....it's just too much!

I feel ya.

I actually looked up the the word "Disillusionment" in the dictonary the other day to see if it accuratley described how I feel. And yes.

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Yes!! Totally!!

in the investigation files I read that the night after prince passed,that Kirk went on prince's computer and deleted some stuff.I wonder what it was exactly?

It's very suspicious

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cloveringold85 said:

dance4me3121 said:

in the investigation files I read that the night after prince passed,that Kirk went on prince's computer and deleted some stuff.I wonder what it was exactly?

It's very suspicious

[Edited 4/27/18 13:13pm]

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That's what we are all wondering. A forensic specialist examined Prince's laptop, so they would know what files were deleted, unless they removed the hard drive??

rogifan said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Agreed. I went to bed last night feeling totally confused by all of this. The lies, the secrecy, by Prince and all his associates. Now, the cover up and more lies.....it's just too much!

That’s why I’m trying to stay away from it. What good for my health is being confused. If there’s proof people working for Prince were stealing from him then the estate should go after them.

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That's the thing!! Why isn't his estate doing something about this??

cloveringold85 said:

rogifan said:

cloveringold85 said:

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That's the thing!! Why isn't his estate doing something about this??

Is it for sure that people were stealing from him? Or is it just allegations at this point?

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Several people have come forward, making allegations, so it would need to be investigated, and that remains to be seen.

NotACleverName said:

cloveringold85 said:

Have you ever been lied to? Have you ever had a dear friend betray you? Do you know what that kind of emotional pain feels like? Have you ever lost a loved one? Seems as though you don't care that Prince had enablers and he was being used. I guess you don't value those kinds of things? To say that some of us are "patting each other on the bacK" and trying to be hero's........I just don't get your line of thinking. I find your comments to be insulting and uncalled for.

Clover, you and I rarely (ok....never) agree but with the bolded? Yes. Those of us who choose to view, disect, ponder, etc., the case files are no more, or less, fans of Prince. I know I do it because I am trying to understand how a man with this much talent, drive, success, devotion succumbed to such an insidious disease and why no one could help him find his way back from it.

Did you find your answer?

Marrk said:

Not read them, no intention to. Prince is still gone. I don't think there is anything to gain by reading all that and looking at his corpse, only more hurt.

Nothing...to...be....gained. U said it all there. Queue up the music now, Mr. DJ.