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Thread started 04/18/18 6:55am

littlemissG

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Purple Rain - why wasn’t Sheila E in it?

Prince and Shelia we’re Friends way before Purple Rain, was she offered a part? Did she want one? I never thought to ask before.
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Reply #1 posted 04/18/18 7:31am

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well, for starters, she refused to purify herself in the waters of Lake Minnetonka
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Reply #2 posted 04/18/18 7:41am

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Because she wasn't really in his orbit until early 1984: http://www.princevault.co...orous_Life . By then the movie was already filmed.

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[Edited 4/18/18 7:45am]

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Reply #3 posted 04/18/18 7:45am

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RJOrion said:

well, for starters, she refused to purify herself in the waters of Lake Minnetonka

I figured that much
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Reply #4 posted 04/18/18 7:47am

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BartVanHemelen said:

Because she wasn't really in his orbit until early 1984: http://www.princevault.co...orous_Life . By then the movie was already filmed.


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[Edited 4/18/18 7:45am]


They meet before that around for You and Prince. He ask her if she would be his drummer and she said he couldn’t afford her.
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Reply #5 posted 04/18/18 8:00am

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littlemissG said:

BartVanHemelen said:

Because she wasn't really in his orbit until early 1984: http://www.princevault.co...orous_Life . By then the movie was already filmed.

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[Edited 4/18/18 7:45am]

They meet before that around for You and Prince. He ask her if she would be his drummer and she said he couldn’t afford her.


I think you just answered your own question.

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Reply #6 posted 04/18/18 8:53am

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RJOrion said:

well, for starters, she refused to purify herself in the waters of Lake Minnetonka

THIS will always be a staple response to things and it is always funny lol

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Reply #7 posted 04/18/18 8:56am

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littlemissG said:

BartVanHemelen said:

Because she wasn't really in his orbit until early 1984: http://www.princevault.co...orous_Life . By then the movie was already filmed.

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[Edited 4/18/18 7:45am]

They meet before that around for You and Prince. He ask her if she would be his drummer and she said he couldn’t afford her.

But like BartVanHemelen said, she wasn't in the 'purple' orbit yet.

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When Magnoli was looking at the scene to put the script to film he didn't see Sheila E,

he saw Prince (the nituloveR) Morris Day the Time, Vanity 6 Jill Jones

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So that is probably the big thing.

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Reply #8 posted 04/18/18 9:39am

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All or almost all filming of the movie was done by the time Sheila came into the picture.
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Reply #9 posted 04/18/18 9:45am

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When Magnoli was looking at the scene to put the script to film he didn't see Sheila E,


he saw Prince (the nituloveR) Morris Day the Time, Vanity 6 Jill Jones


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So that is probably the big thing.


Yes I think that is mostly why. Too bad, I think it would have been better with Shelia even in a small part.
[Edited 4/18/18 9:49am]
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Reply #10 posted 04/18/18 10:10am

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littlemissG said:

BartVanHemelen said:

Because she wasn't really in his orbit until early 1984: http://www.princevault.co...orous_Life . By then the movie was already filmed.

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[Edited 4/18/18 7:45am]

They meet before that around for You and Prince. He ask her if she would be his drummer and she said he couldn’t afford her.

Right, she said they met 1978 in the Bay Area in an interview.

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Reply #11 posted 04/18/18 10:34am

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littlemissG said:

When Magnoli was looking at the scene to put the script to film he didn't see Sheila E,

he saw Prince (the nituloveR) Morris Day the Time, Vanity 6 Jill Jones

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So that is probably the big thing.

Yes I think that is mostly why. Too bad, I think it would have been better with Shelia even in a small part. [Edited 4/18/18 9:49am]

Yeah I though even a club scene camio would have been great

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Reply #12 posted 04/18/18 11:21am

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BartVanHemelen said:

Because she wasn't really in his orbit until early 1984: http://www.princevault.co...orous_Life . By then the movie was already filmed.

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[Edited 4/18/18 7:45am]


You should edit again Bert, because that is simply untrue.

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Reply #13 posted 04/18/18 11:31am

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It's always incorrectly assumed the woman in the skip is Sheila.

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OldFriends4Sale said:

RJOrion said:

well, for starters, she refused to purify herself in the waters of Lake Minnetonka

THIS will always be a staple response to things and it is always funny lol


And there you have it razz

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Reply #15 posted 04/18/18 4:31pm

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well, for starters, she refused to purify herself in the waters of Lake Minnetonka

TY so much for the laugh.. I've been alittle down as 4/21 approaches and I am again unable to afford going to the Celebration.
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Purplebflogirl said:

RJOrion said:
well, for starters, she refused to purify herself in the waters of Lake Minnetonka
TY so much for the laugh.. I've been alittle down as 4/21 approaches and I am again unable to afford going to the Celebration.



So are most of us.

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luv4u said:

Purplebflogirl said:

RJOrion said: TY so much for the laugh.. I've been alittle down as 4/21 approaches and I am again unable to afford going to the Celebration.



So are most of us.

Yup, that's why I hope those that manage to get there somehow, despite the snowstorms, will share their experiences on this board and not just on Facebook.

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Reply #18 posted 04/18/18 9:11pm

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purplethunder3121 said:



luv4u said:




Purplebflogirl said:


RJOrion said: TY so much for the laugh.. I've been alittle down as 4/21 approaches and I am again unable to afford going to the Celebration.



So are most of us.



Yup, that's why I hope those that manage to get there somehow, despite the snowstorms, will share their experiences on this board and not just on Facebook.


I hope so too.
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Reply #19 posted 04/19/18 1:16am

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i work there. i can share what my NDA allows 🙂
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Reply #20 posted 04/19/18 4:37am

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TrivialPursuit said:

BartVanHemelen said:

Because she wasn't really in his orbit until early 1984: http://www.princevault.co...orous_Life . By then the movie was already filmed.

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[Edited 4/18/18 7:45am]


You should edit again Bert, because that is simply untrue.

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Which part isn't true?

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I've just checked Duane Tudahl's book. First mention of Sheila E is for the 27 December 1983 entry, which also mentions that "the bulk of the movie was now in the can" and that the director and editor would assemble a rough cut to determine what still needed to be shot. Sheila is mentioned as "someone who had been visiting Prince in the studio recently" (yet she wasn't mentioned before).

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At that time they were way too late in the movie's production process to implement significant scenario changes, lacking both money and time. Shoehorning in Sheila would have been a costly affair, and I doubt anyone involved was even considering this. Prince's work with Sheila only seems to really kick off mid-February.

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Reply #21 posted 04/19/18 7:39am

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i work there. i can share what my NDA allows 🙂

TY smile
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