databank said:

recordmanben said:

Tangerine17 said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

I wonder how Mathieu heard the original tracks?

Maybe by his association with Lenny, Dave Chappelle, Chris Rock, and others?

Actually, it has nothing to do with any of my friends/collaborators that you listed although they were all friends with Prince. I actually got some CDs back in 06 that were early configurations of Lotusflow3r, Planet Earth and 3121 when I was working on Ultimate, When 2 R In Love and some other secret projects. Of course I’ve never copied them but I can attest to the fact that Boxil did overdubs on the original tracks but those are Prince’s tracks on Boxil’s version. He just added background vocals and some keyboard strings and things. Hope this helps. [Edited 3/14/18 22:14pm]

Thanks a lot for sharing those infos Mathieu

Tangerine17 said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

I wonder how Mathieu heard the original tracks?

Maybe by his association with Lenny, Dave Chappelle, Chris Rock, and others?

Actually, it has nothing to do with any of my friends/collaborators that you listed although they were all friends with Prince. I actually got some CDs back in 06 that were early configurations of Lotusflow3r, Planet Earth and 3121 when I was working on Ultimate, When 2 R In Love and some other secret projects. Of course I’ve never copied them but I can attest to the fact that Boxil did overdubs on the original tracks but those are Prince’s tracks on Boxil’s version. He just added background vocals and some keyboard strings and things. Hope this helps.

Thanks!

BTW I love your work.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

coldasice said:

You do realize P is only on lead vocals and some guitar right?

Even if that's the case, surely enough to recommend the track, no?

laurarichardson said:

TrivialPursuit said:

I never claimed anything he played on it or not.

—Well That is the problem with the whole project

Wait. You think the track is limited ONLY because it has a stellar Prince vocal and guitar: How odd.

Doozer said:

Doozer said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Thanks!

BTW I love your work.

Ditto! This EP was a great surprise. It would only have been better if it had been sanctioned by the estate. But they’re too busy wasting time and money, so I’ll take what I can get, gladly. I’d like to pay the estate for vault tracks, but until they get their act together, the market will be there for projects like this one. [Edited 3/16/18 10:10am]

How could it be scantioned by the estate if Ian stole it? The estate is being overseen by a court and no court is going to allow copyright and infringement go on without stepping up.

You do realize that what Ian was doing is a crime? I doubt he was going to turn one penny over to the estate without a long drawn out court battle which would have cost more money.

The handled it correctly and if some of you would have some patience they will get around to putting it out. The right way without Ian's fuckery.

I love Deliverance. It's one of my favorite Prince tracks of the last 15 years.

laurarichardson said:

Doozer said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said: Ditto! This EP was a great surprise. It would only have been better if it had been sanctioned by the estate. But they’re too busy wasting time and money, so I’ll take what I can get, gladly. I’d like to pay the estate for vault tracks, but until they get their act together, the market will be there for projects like this one. [Edited 3/16/18 10:10am]

How could it be scantioned by the estate if Ian stole it? The estate is being overseen by a court and no court is going to allow copyright and infringement go on without stepping up.

You do realize that what Ian was doing is a crime? I doubt he was going to turn one penny over to the estate without a long drawn out court battle which would have cost more money.

The handled it correctly and if some of you would have some patience they will get around to putting it out. The right way without Ian's fuckery.

Like I said, it would have been better had it been sanctioned by the estate. As in, it would be nice if there had been a plan of any kind left behind. There wasn't, so shit like this is going on. That's the reality of it all at this point.

he said he had more tracks....shame he wont contact estate and release them with estate

coldasice said:

You do realize P is only on lead vocals and some guitar right?

I don't believe that. I do think it's one of the best things I've heard from him since the 80s, and that's coming from someone that likes a whole lot of stuff he did since then.

luvsexy4all said:

he said he had more tracks....shame he wont contact estate and release them with estate

Oddly enough, I surprise myself by feeling a bit ambivalent about this EP.

I remember how exciting it was at first to hear a brief clip of a new Prince song on the news on the radio, but then it was a huge disappointment to find out almost immediately that it was completely unofficial, and that sadly Ian had gone ahead and done this without the consent of the estate.

It's not that I dislike the Deliverance EP (far from it in fact), but, if Ian had say accepted a modest fee for his work, and agreed with the estate for the proceeds to go to one of Prince's charities, I am sure I would feel far more comfortable with and enthusiastic about this (eventually unofficial) release.

It seems to have been pretty well received widely, so I feel like maybe it's a bit of an opportunity missed, and I can't help but wonder whether perhaps Ian may now regret how he went about trying to release it.

Nevertheless, I am grateful to have been able to get the chance to hear it, though I always feel a bit guilty about bootlegs, as Prince didn't seem to like them, so I can't get over the feeling it's perhaps a tad disrespectful for me to listen to them (though I admit that regrettably I used to buy lots of them as a young man). Well, I suppose that's another topic entirely.