MuleFunk said:

muleFunk said:

purplefam99 said:

please Mule, confusion is setting in here. can you clarify PennyPurple's question to you??

Back before the final results were leaked to the press we were speculating about Prince's health condition. Long time Org members knew that Prince had a problem with his hips. There were several posts here about that topic going back at least to 2006 and maybe longer.It was also mentioned that he was using medications to cope with this pain.

When Prince passed away my best friend, who is a medical pathologist, said that after the awards show in 2015 he said Prince looked like he was sick and could have been in the last stages of cancer or acute myeloid leukemia. Without getting into detail but some scuttlebutt among people in the medical field came back that the hip problem was degenerative and that a full replacement couldn't take place because the bone marrow production was not good enough to proceed. If that was the case then use of painkillers was needed.

Now what does that have to do with murder?

Someone switched his medication.

1.Where did these pills come from?

2. Why would he need to have fake Vicodin pills when he could have gotten real ones?

Kirk didn't know about the Aleve and Bayer bottles.

You said there were not any prescriptions narcotic in Prince's name what so ever, in the last couple of years. Do you think he was using a different name that nobody knows about to obtain legal prescriptions, or do you think he was buying from the streets? I find it hard to believe that Kirk didn't know anything about the Aleve or Bayer bottles, especially when they were in the black bag that he carried always.

PennyPurple said:

muleFunk said:

Back before the final results were leaked to the press we were speculating about Prince's health condition. Long time Org members knew that Prince had a problem with his hips. There were several posts here about that topic going back at least to 2006 and maybe longer.It was also mentioned that he was using medications to cope with this pain.

When Prince passed away my best friend, who is a medical pathologist, said that after the awards show in 2015 he said Prince looked like he was sick and could have been in the last stages of cancer or acute myeloid leukemia. Without getting into detail but some scuttlebutt among people in the medical field came back that the hip problem was degenerative and that a full replacement couldn't take place because the bone marrow production was not good enough to proceed. If that was the case then use of painkillers was needed.

Now what does that have to do with murder?

Someone switched his medication.

1.Where did these pills come from?

2. Why would he need to have fake Vicodin pills when he could have gotten real ones?

Kirk didn't know about the Aleve and Bayer bottles.

You said there were not any prescriptions narcotic in Prince's name what so ever, in the last couple of years. Do you think he was using a different name that nobody knows about to obtain legal prescriptions, or do you think he was buying from the streets? I find it hard to believe that Kirk didn't know anything about the Aleve or Bayer bottles, especially when they were in the black bag that he carried always.

Quite possible that he thought they were what in the bottle.

From what I have discovered they looked for prescriptions all over the world and found nothing.

Go back to Michael Jackson's death and the proceeding investigation for a moment.

They found pill prescriptions in at least 10 different names in his possession. They found no evidence of this in Prince's case.

Now as far as the counterfeit Vicodin it's possible he could have but in Forensic drug investigations they look for the same pill press with the numbers and maker like the Watson 383 being printed. They have not popped up anywhere and they certainly haven't found the astronomical levels that were allegedly found in Prince's system.

This is what set off alarms with me. The levels of those pills suggest that he would have OD by touching them and it's also what sent DEA alarms off causing them to go search PP.

muleFunk said:

PennyPurple said:

You said there were not any prescriptions narcotic in Prince's name what so ever, in the last couple of years. Do you think he was using a different name that nobody knows about to obtain legal prescriptions, or do you think he was buying from the streets? I find it hard to believe that Kirk didn't know anything about the Aleve or Bayer bottles, especially when they were in the black bag that he carried always.

Quite possible that he thought they were what in the bottle.

From what I have discovered they looked for prescriptions all over the world and found nothing.

Go back to Michael Jackson's death and the proceeding investigation for a moment.

They found pill prescriptions in at least 10 different names in his possession. They found no evidence of this in Prince's case.

Now as far as the counterfeit Vicodin it's possible he could have but in Forensic drug investigations they look for the same pill press with the numbers and maker like the Watson 383 being printed. They have not popped up anywhere and they certainly haven't found the astronomical levels that were allegedly found in Prince's system.

This is what set off alarms with me. The levels of those pills suggest that he would have OD by touching them and it's also what sent DEA alarms off causing them to go search PP.

Well that's what I said months ago, by just touching them would be dangerous, but everyone threw a fit and said that wasn't true.

PennyPurple said:

MuleFunk said:

I assumed at the time that Prince accidentally O'D because he had the flu and taking opioids with cold meds is deadly. I think that's what happened on the plane.

But whenever a black operation is taking place you always will have a cover story.

Why is it two years later whenever we hear about Prince it refers back to drugs or OD.

You don't refer back to Tom Petty or George Michael like that.

Also why is there always a positive Prince story it's followed up with a negative one?

disch said:

Thanks mule! I’m really curious about your book. It sounds like it’s potentially something that people who post on this thread might buy/read. - Did you get primary accesss to sourcs (interviews with people with direct knowledge) or is it more a synthesis and interpretation of public info? Do you have a central thesis or conclusion? And can you tell us more about the publication (when, what publisher etc) so we can be on the lookout?? - Thanks! I’m sure you’ll want your book to get as wide a readership as possible and this thread is probably a good place to start promoting it! MuleFunk said:

I have a demanding job.

I post here now when I can.

Now I try not to flame and get childish on the internet.

The only reason why I responded to this is because a reasonable dialogue was established.

I know that you guys disagree with my opinion and I am cool with that.

If you want further dialogue find me on FB.

It's going to be a combination of all.

I got sidetracked when I was made to be an Assistant Principal at the school that I work in.

I was going to Minnesota back in the Fall of last year but this job has proven to be more than I thought. Planning on making a trip in June.

muleFunk said:

disch said:

Thanks mule! I’m really curious about your book. It sounds like it’s potentially something that people who post on this thread might buy/read. - Did you get primary accesss to sourcs (interviews with people with direct knowledge) or is it more a synthesis and interpretation of public info? Do you have a central thesis or conclusion? And can you tell us more about the publication (when, what publisher etc) so we can be on the lookout?? - Thanks! I’m sure you’ll want your book to get as wide a readership as possible and this thread is probably a good place to start promoting it! MuleFunk said:

It's going to be a combination of all.

I got sidetracked when I was made to be an Assistant Principal at the school that I work in.

I was going to Minnesota back in the Fall of last year but this job has proven to be more than I thought. Planning on making a trip in June.

Yes yes, Mule is back on track

I just read another interesting book about an infamous "judas goat".

disch said:

Because the “touching pills would kill you” is actually not true. It’s an urban myth. Basically unless it’s in a special patch formulation it can’t absorb through the skin (and even in a patch the skin absorption is very gradual. - Here’s a good explanation from an anesthesiologist https://www.reason.com/bl...t-kill-yo/ - “ No, fentanyl is not dangerous to touch. Transdermal fentanyl patches deliver fentanyl across the skin, but they require special absorption enhancers because the skin is an excellent barrier to fentanyl (and all other opioids). However, it is readily absorbed through mucus membranes, so snorted, rubbed in the mouth, or swallowed are all effective ways of administering fentanyl.” PennyPurple said:

Well that's what I said months ago, by just touching them would be dangerous, but everyone threw a fit and said that wasn't true.

There is an arguement about that going on right now with law enforcement telling me that there were several officers getting sick by handling these drugs but who knows?

I do know that if that KSTP report is accurate he had epic amounts in his stomach contents.

ThatWhiteDude said:

GrayDorian said:

Well, I was under the impression that some of his colleagues had already confirmed that Prince had hip issues and consequent treatment. I certainly wouldn't be disputing their word.

But I think we may be talking about way back around 2009ish for any purported surgery. However, I could be completely wrong about all of that, as I can't remember where I read that, or even which associates mentioned it, so it may not even be true at all. My memory ain't what it used to be, sorry! I know that's not much help.

I may be able to help you with footage of Prince looking like he is in discomfort walking though. It was taken in Heathrow Airport (I'm guessing perhaps circa 2007 for the 21 nights in London?). The address is below, though you would need to copy and paste.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlz8JbUwaeA

Prince didn't move like that in concert in 2014, that's for sure. That's what makes me so unusually skeptical (I'm about the last person to go for conspiracy theories), whilst Morgan Neville's comments above make me even more suspicious.

Prince looks amazingly light on his feet to me in that brief Judith Hill clip for a man supposedly debilitated by hip/joint pain. As I've already stated previously, imho there seems something slightly fishy about the media line (long term painkiller addiction due to crippling hip/joint pain), but of course I may very well be completely wrong.

Today I've read some folks online dissing Prince about his addiction on a news comments section. Even if it is in fact the case that he were addicted, the ignorance and total lack of compassion or empathy of some of those posters is appalling, sickening and pretty infuriating.

I'm not sure whether Prince would really care too much about what such narrow-minded, hard-hearted folks thought about him, as I think he once wisely observed that such comments usually say more about them than reflect anything at all about him, but I can't help feeling that he deserves far, far better.

I'm not so naive that I expect everyone to love him to bits (though millions of us worldwide no doubt do), but I do wish these mean-spirited folks would show him some much warranted R-E-S-P-E-C-T, as the song goes, if not for all the wonderful music he gave us, then at the very least for his altruistic, charitable works.

To the read: I remember there was a video of Prince waiting for an elevator in 2008 and he didn't know he was filmed, it's the only time I saw Prince being in pain, because he got up and leaned on his cane and it really looks like it's the only bearable position.

I don’t think I’ve seen that one thankfully. It sounds grim. Someone filming him surreptitiously does seem a bit shady.

There does seem to have been a fairly lengthy hiatus by Prince's high standards in concerts between the fall of 2009 and the summer of 2010, so I suppose it wouldn't be all that surprising, if Prince had perhaps undergone some kind of procedure late in 2009.

I may be mistaken, but I think I vaguely recall somebody, who had attended the final gig at Paisley Park in October 2009 prior to that break, recalling that he thought he had observed that Prince may have been suffering from drop foot during that concert, so perhaps Prince had reached a point where surgery was no longer avoidable? Pure speculation on my part though, and there may be no truth in any of that of course.

fortuneandserendipity said:

I thought people on this thread were mad. But I was on facebook prince page yesterday and two people were saying how often they caught the clock at 4:21. And that was a sign. Ya know prince death, him communicating and whatnot. To which I replied, yeah I often get that looking at the clock when it says 9:11. And then I have to get out QuIcK!!!

Well, you may very well have a point with regards to myself. There may well be a bit of denial going on in my case as least. I wouldn't be shocked, as I’m not usually so skeptical by nature.

You are reminding me of one of Prince’s notebooks that were on display at the expo, the cover of which I think may have read, if memory serves me right, ‘I’m not crazy, I’m creative’. I thought that was pretty cute.

TrevorAyer said:

Y’all know prince carried a cane for like 2 decades right? Opiods would be used while working or performing. While using prince could easily appear to move normal ... even dance or sprint ... then once they wear off is when he would feel the pain of all that dancing and sprinting .. just look at all the athletes who perform while injured ... If prince never performed again he could have let his body heal but the painkillers allowed him to continue to perform and prince is not the kind of guy who is capable of slowing down ... piano and mic is the slowest p could go and that still involved 2 shows per night and exhausting travel

Y’all know prince carried a cane for like 2 decades right?

Nope, I wasn’t aware of that. I saw him with a cane in performances back in 93, but I'd assumed (albeit perhaps completely erroneously) that it was simply a prop. The only photo I can recall of Prince with a cane shows him by a helicopter arriving to play a New Year’s concert for some Russian oligarch.

Opiods would be used while working or performing. While using prince could easily appear to move normal ... even dance or sprint

Ok, I hadn’t really expected that such opioids would be THAT effective in blocking pain for someone with an allegedly badly debilitated hip. My friend’s mobility seems considerably impaired due to his bad hip, though presumably he must be taking far weaker, less effective meds.

... then once they wear off is when he would feel the pain of all that dancing and sprinting ..

Hmmm, that’s a very sobering thought to dwell on…that Prince gave his best to us over the last decade of his life on earth in spite of suffering so much pain.

.. just look at all the athletes who perform while injured ...

Do you mean that there are athletes performing in pro sports like the NBA, NFL and NHL with such debilitating injuries as requiring hip arthroplasty? I’m pretty surprised it’s allowed, to be frank.

If prince never performed again he could have let his body heal but the painkillers allowed him to continue to perform and prince is not the kind of guy who is capable of slowing down ... piano and mic is the slowest p could go and that still involved 2 shows per night and exhausting travel

I can’t help wonder if part of the reason Prince didn’t want to slow down latterly was that he knew his time was very limited (believing Tyka, as I do).

Admittedly your insight into the strength of these opioids make the media line seem more plausible. Perhaps I may very well be being unduly skeptical about Prince having a long term opioid addiction due to many years of hip pain.

muleFunk said:

purplefam99 said:

please Mule, confusion is setting in here. can you clarify PennyPurple's question to you??

Back before the final results were leaked to the press we were speculating about Prince's health condition. Long time Org members knew that Prince had a problem with his hips. There were several posts here about that topic going back at least to 2006 and maybe longer.It was also mentioned that he was using medications to cope with this pain.

When Prince passed away my best friend, who is a medical pathologist, said that after the awards show in 2015 he said Prince looked like he was sick and could have been in the last stages of cancer or acute myeloid leukemia. Without getting into detail but some scuttlebutt among people in the medical field came back that the hip problem was degenerative and that a full replacement couldn't take place because the bone marrow production was not good enough to proceed. If that was the case then use of painkillers was needed.

Now what does that have to do with murder?

Someone switched his medication.

1.Where did these pills come from?

2. Why would he need to have fake Vicodin pills when he could have gotten real ones?

Kirk didn't know about the Aleve and Bayer bottles.

Long time Org members knew that Prince had a problem with his hips

Well, I’ve been knocking about (lurking or else under a deleted account) for a good while, well at least since 2001 (back in the days when Mistermaxx, DavidEye, rdhull, ian, CalhounSq etc were posting fairly prominently, and laura too of course) , and I certainly didn’t know that Prince had a problem with his hips.

For sure I’d seen some of the speculation here of course, but sadly had incorrectly dismissed it as idle gossip (folks spout all sorts of speculative crap here, myself included of course). I’ve since reappraised that, however.

It was also mentioned that he was using medications to cope with this pain.

Okay, and that seems to me to be a very reasonable assumption. However, it doesn’t necessarily mean that at that stage Prince was addicted to and/or reliant on super strength opioids. I use pain meds for my knees, but I’m not addicted; if I’m on vacation for example, I may get by without having to use them at all.

When Prince passed away my best friend, who is a medical pathologist, said that after the awards show in 2015 he said Prince looked like he was sick and could have been in the last stages of cancer or acute myeloid leukemia

It’s useful to get an expert’s perspective. I too think that Prince looked seriously unwell and way too gaunt very latterly. Sadly Tyka has graciously confirmed serious illness over the last 3 years (tho admittedly her word on this grave topic is questioned by some here).

Now what does that have to do with murder?

I have absolutely no idea.

Someone switched his medication.

Err, did I miss something? Are you able to tell us where you got that info from? And more significantly can you confirm that have you raised this with the police?

1.Where did these pills come from?

I had been presuming that any prescribed meds came from a pharmacist (like say Walgreens?), but I have just read that you are sharing that ‘they have looked for prescriptions all over the world and found nothing’.

And I was kinda thinking that the counterfeit, ‘mislabelled’ pills perhaps came in from somewhere like China in one of the thousands of small, almost untrackable packages that flood in every single day. I’m not in the least surprised, if the police have had difficulty tracing the source of the counterfeit meds.


2. Why would he need to have fake Vicodin pills when he could have gotten real ones?

I am curious as to why Prince would need to resort to using unofficial meds. Was this purely a case of protecting his privacy? I would have thought a man of his means would not have had any difficulty procuring legit meds entirely discreetly from engaged medical professionals.

Kirk didn't know about the Aleve and Bayer bottles.

What are you implying here? Do you think that they were planted by somebody else?


Though, I fully admit I may yet be proved wrong, I don’t believe there was ‘foul play’ involved in Prince’s death. I certainly wouldn't entertain for a second any suggestion that Kirk would do anything to harm Prince, if you are thinking that he may be a potential suspect. Surely there is no way Kirk would be desperately trying to save Prince on the flight, if he wished him any ill. That just wouldn't make any sense to me at all.

For now I am more concerned about the possibility of medical negligence, given the sibs' request for the autopsy report, with a possible view to litigation. The prospect of medical negligence playing a key role in Prince's passing is quite distressing enough for me to contemplate.

[Edited 3/24/18 13:11pm]

GrayDorian said:

muleFunk said:

Back before the final results were leaked to the press we were speculating about Prince's health condition. Long time Org members knew that Prince had a problem with his hips. There were several posts here about that topic going back at least to 2006 and maybe longer.It was also mentioned that he was using medications to cope with this pain.

When Prince passed away my best friend, who is a medical pathologist, said that after the awards show in 2015 he said Prince looked like he was sick and could have been in the last stages of cancer or acute myeloid leukemia. Without getting into detail but some scuttlebutt among people in the medical field came back that the hip problem was degenerative and that a full replacement couldn't take place because the bone marrow production was not good enough to proceed. If that was the case then use of painkillers was needed.

Now what does that have to do with murder?

Someone switched his medication.

1.Where did these pills come from?

2. Why would he need to have fake Vicodin pills when he could have gotten real ones?

Kirk didn't know about the Aleve and Bayer bottles.

Long time Org members knew that Prince had a problem with his hips

Well, I’ve been knocking about (lurking or else under a deleted account) for a good while, well at least since 2001 (back in the days when Mistermaxx, DavidEye, rdhull, ian, CalhounSq etc were posting fairly prominently, and laura too of course) , and I certainly didn’t know that Prince had a problem with his hips.

For sure I’d seen some of the speculation here of course, but sadly had incorrectly dismissed it as idle gossip (folks spout all sorts of speculative crap here, myself included of course). I’ve since reappraised that, however.

It was also mentioned that he was using medications to cope with this pain.

Okay, and that seems to me to be a very reasonable assumption. However, it doesn’t necessarily mean that at that stage Prince was addicted to and/or reliant on super strength opioids. I use pain meds for my knees, but I’m not addicted; if I’m on vacation for example, I may get by without having to use them at all.

When Prince passed away my best friend, who is a medical pathologist, said that after the awards show in 2015 he said Prince looked like he was sick and could have been in the last stages of cancer or acute myeloid leukemia

It’s useful to get an expert’s perspective. I too think that Prince looked seriously unwell and way too gaunt very latterly. Sadly Tyka has graciously confirmed serious illness over the last 3 years (tho admittedly her word on this grave topic is questioned by some here).

Now what does that have to do with murder?

I have absolutely no idea.

Someone switched his medication.

Err, did I miss something? Are you able to tell us where you got that info from? And more significantly can you confirm that have you raised this with the police?

1.Where did these pills come from?

I had been presuming that any prescribed meds came from a pharmacist (like say Walgreens?), but I have just read that you are sharing that ‘they have looked for prescriptions all over the world and found nothing’.

And I was kinda thinking that the counterfeit, ‘mislabelled’ pills perhaps came in from somewhere like China in one of the thousands of small, almost untrackable packages that flood in every single day. I’m not in the least surprised, if the police have had difficulty tracing the source of the counterfeit meds.


2. Why would he need to have fake Vicodin pills when he could have gotten real ones?

I am curious as to why Prince would need to resort to using unofficial meds. Was this purely a case of protecting his privacy? I would have thought a man of his means would not have had any difficulty procuring legit meds entirely discreetly from engaged medical professionals.

Kirk didn't know about the Aleve and Bayer bottles.

What are you implying here? Do you think that they were planted by somebody else?


Though, I fully admit I may yet be proved wrong, I don’t believe there was ‘foul play’ involved in Prince’s murder. I certainly wouldn't entertain for a second any suggestion that Kirk would do anything to harm Prince, if you are thinking that he may be a potential suspect. Surely there is no way Kirk would be desperately trying to save Prince on the flight, if he wished him any ill. That just wouldn't make any sense to me at all.

For now I am more concerned about the possibility of medical negligence, given the sibs' request for the autopsy report, with a possible view to litigation. The prospect of medical negligence playing a key role in Prince's passing is quite distressing enough for me to contemplate.

Yes I think he had Percocets in those OTC bottles and they were removed.

What gives me the reason to make that assumption ?

The fact that in the Winter of 2015/16 he started showing signs of something being wrong. If you believe the inner circle saying they were planning an intervention is very interesting when you look at the fact that his pain medication was there under Kirk's name. Prince had been taking his normal medicines but now he's showing signs of addiction???

Was someone was taking his normal Percocet and switching them to something stronger?

AS FAR AS MURDER or using my term ASSASSINATION the one thing my gut is telling me is BALTIMORE.

Google Black Lives Matter leadership deaths and see what you get.

GrayDorian said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

To the read: I remember there was a video of Prince waiting for an elevator in 2008 and he didn't know he was filmed, it's the only time I saw Prince being in pain, because he got up and leaned on his cane and it really looks like it's the only bearable position.

I don’t think I’ve seen that one thankfully. It sounds grim. Someone filming him surreptitiously does seem a bit shady.

There does seem to have been a fairly lengthy hiatus by Prince's high standards in concerts between the fall of 2009 and the summer of 2010, so I suppose it wouldn't be all that surprising, if Prince had perhaps undergone some kind of procedure late in 2009.

I may be mistaken, but I think I vaguely recall somebody, who had attended the final gig at Paisley Park in October 2009 prior to that break, recalling that he thought he had observed that Prince may have been suffering from drop foot during that concert, so perhaps Prince had reached a point where surgery was no longer avoidable? Pure speculation on my part though, and there may be no truth in any of that of course.

Yeah, the captions in the video are stupid as well.

It kind of makes me sad today to think about the fact that Prince has joined the "conspiracy death club."

muleFunk said:

I assumed at the time that Prince accidentally O'D because he had the flu and taking opioids with cold meds is deadly. I think that's what happened on the plane.

But whenever a black operation is taking place you always will have a cover story.

Why is it two years later whenever we hear about Prince it refers back to drugs or OD.

You don't refer back to Tom Petty or George Michael like that.

Also why is there always a positive Prince story it's followed up with a negative one?

George Michael had no drugs in his system when he died.

PennyPurple said:

muleFunk said:

I assumed at the time that Prince accidentally O'D because he had the flu and taking opioids with cold meds is deadly. I think that's what happened on the plane.

But whenever a black operation is taking place you always will have a cover story.

Why is it two years later whenever we hear about Prince it refers back to drugs or OD.

You don't refer back to Tom Petty or George Michael like that.

Also why is there always a positive Prince story it's followed up with a negative one?

George Michael had no drugs in his system when he died.

It's in the "book".

Menes said:

PennyPurple said:

George Michael had no drugs in his system when he died.

It's in the "book".

Imma gonna DIE if I can't get my paws on this book...like RIGHT NOW PLEASE SWEET JESUS!

muleFunk said:

I assumed at the time that Prince accidentally O'D because he had the flu and taking opioids with cold meds is deadly. I think that's what happened on the plane.

But whenever a black operation is taking place you always will have a cover story.

Why is it two years later whenever we hear about Prince it refers back to drugs or OD.

You don't refer back to Tom Petty or George Michael like that.

Also why is there always a positive Prince story it's followed up with a negative one?

The "black operation" chapter. That's the chapter that was most intriguing. They have no idea.

You guys are crazy to even think that BLM has anything to do with Prince's death.

Menes said:

muleFunk said:

I assumed at the time that Prince accidentally O'D because he had the flu and taking opioids with cold meds is deadly. I think that's what happened on the plane.

But whenever a black operation is taking place you always will have a cover story.

Why is it two years later whenever we hear about Prince it refers back to drugs or OD.

You don't refer back to Tom Petty or George Michael like that.

Also why is there always a positive Prince story it's followed up with a negative one?

The "black operation" chapter. That's the chapter that was most intriguing. They have no idea.

Big THANKS to my special purple buddy who heard my cry of desperation...Holy S, Menes...that chapter blew me away...OMG how can you stay so chill about it???...

GrayDorian said:

muleFunk said:

Back before the final results were leaked to the press we were speculating about Prince's health condition. Long time Org members knew that Prince had a problem with his hips. There were several posts here about that topic going back at least to 2006 and maybe longer.It was also mentioned that he was using medications to cope with this pain.

When Prince passed away my best friend, who is a medical pathologist, said that after the awards show in 2015 he said Prince looked like he was sick and could have been in the last stages of cancer or acute myeloid leukemia. Without getting into detail but some scuttlebutt among people in the medical field came back that the hip problem was degenerative and that a full replacement couldn't take place because the bone marrow production was not good enough to proceed. If that was the case then use of painkillers was needed.

Now what does that have to do with murder?

Someone switched his medication.

1.Where did these pills come from?

2. Why would he need to have fake Vicodin pills when he could have gotten real ones?

Kirk didn't know about the Aleve and Bayer bottles.

Long time Org members knew that Prince had a problem with his hips

Well, I’ve been knocking about (lurking or else under a deleted account) for a good while, well at least since 2001 (back in the days when Mistermaxx, DavidEye, rdhull, ian, CalhounSq etc were posting fairly prominently, and laura too of course) , and I certainly didn’t know that Prince had a problem with his hips.

For sure I’d seen some of the speculation here of course, but sadly had incorrectly dismissed it as idle gossip (folks spout all sorts of speculative crap here, myself included of course). I’ve since reappraised that, however.

It was also mentioned that he was using medications to cope with this pain.

Okay, and that seems to me to be a very reasonable assumption. However, it doesn’t necessarily mean that at that stage Prince was addicted to and/or reliant on super strength opioids. I use pain meds for my knees, but I’m not addicted; if I’m on vacation for example, I may get by without having to use them at all.

When Prince passed away my best friend, who is a medical pathologist, said that after the awards show in 2015 he said Prince looked like he was sick and could have been in the last stages of cancer or acute myeloid leukemia

It’s useful to get an expert’s perspective. I too think that Prince looked seriously unwell and way too gaunt very latterly. Sadly Tyka has graciously confirmed serious illness over the last 3 years (tho admittedly her word on this grave topic is questioned by some here).

Now what does that have to do with murder?

I have absolutely no idea.

Someone switched his medication.

Err, did I miss something? Are you able to tell us where you got that info from? And more significantly can you confirm that have you raised this with the police?

1.Where did these pills come from?

I had been presuming that any prescribed meds came from a pharmacist (like say Walgreens?), but I have just read that you are sharing that ‘they have looked for prescriptions all over the world and found nothing’.

And I was kinda thinking that the counterfeit, ‘mislabelled’ pills perhaps came in from somewhere like China in one of the thousands of small, almost untrackable packages that flood in every single day. I’m not in the least surprised, if the police have had difficulty tracing the source of the counterfeit meds.


2. Why would he need to have fake Vicodin pills when he could have gotten real ones?

I am curious as to why Prince would need to resort to using unofficial meds. Was this purely a case of protecting his privacy? I would have thought a man of his means would not have had any difficulty procuring legit meds entirely discreetly from engaged medical professionals.

Kirk didn't know about the Aleve and Bayer bottles.

What are you implying here? Do you think that they were planted by somebody else?


Though, I fully admit I may yet be proved wrong, I don’t believe there was ‘foul play’ involved in Prince’s murder. I certainly wouldn't entertain for a second any suggestion that Kirk would do anything to harm Prince, if you are thinking that he may be a potential suspect. Surely there is no way Kirk would be desperately trying to save Prince on the flight, if he wished him any ill. That just wouldn't make any sense to me at all.

For now I am more concerned about the possibility of medical negligence, given the sibs' request for the autopsy report, with a possible view to litigation. The prospect of medical negligence playing a key role in Prince's passing is quite distressing enough for me to contemplate.

Yes I think he had Percocets in those OTC bottles and they were removed.

What gives me the reason to make that assumption ?

The fact that in the Winter of 2015/16 he started showing signs of something being wrong. If you believe the inner circle saying they were planning an intervention is very interesting when you look at the fact that his pain medication was there under Kirk's name. Prince had been taking his normal medicines but now he's showing signs of addiction???

Was someone was taking his normal Percocet and switching them to something stronger?

AS FAR AS MURDER or using my term ASSASSINATION the one thing my gut is telling me is BALTIMORE.

Google Black Lives Matter leadership deaths and see what you get.

https://www.theroot.com/f...1794955900

Does anybody hear us pray?
4 Michael Brown or Freddie Gray
Peace is more than the absence of war
Absence of
R we gonna c another bloody day?
We're tired of cryin' & people dyin'
Let's all take the guns away

PennyPurple said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

PennyPurple said:

You guys are crazy to even think that BLM has anything to do with Prince's death.

I know right?

In the abstract context of said published work , "BLM" = blatant lies and manipulation.

On a related note, Chazz is offering tours that explores Prince's roots.. No refunds, just justice for Prince.

Menes said:

In the abstract context of said published work , "BLM" = blatant lies and manipulation.

On a related note, Chazz is offering tours that explores Prince's roots.. No refunds, just justice for Prince.

NOPE This is what muleFunk said. So in muleFunk's description, it wasn't BLM = blatant lies and manipulation. It was BLM = Black Lives Matter.

muleFunk said:

Yes I think he had Percocets in those OTC bottles and they were removed.

What gives me the reason to make that assumption ?

The fact that in the Winter of 2015/16 he started showing signs of something being wrong. If you believe the inner circle saying they were planning an intervention is very interesting when you look at the fact that his pain medication was there under Kirk's name. Prince had been taking his normal medicines but now he's showing signs of addiction???

Was someone was taking his normal Percocet and switching them to something stronger?

AS FAR AS MURDER or using my term ASSASSINATION the one thing my gut is telling me is BALTIMORE.

Google Black Lives Matter leadership deaths and see what you get.

Oh, I see. So the movement was the catalyst for the murder of Prince? We need to get the BLM members to weigh in on this.

PennyPurple said:

Menes said:

NOPE This is what muleFunk said. So in muleFunk's description, it wasn't BLM = blatant lies and manipulation. It was BLM = Black Lives Matter.

muleFunk said:

Yes I think he had Percocets in those OTC bottles and they were removed.

What gives me the reason to make that assumption ?

The fact that in the Winter of 2015/16 he started showing signs of something being wrong. If you believe the inner circle saying they were planning an intervention is very interesting when you look at the fact that his pain medication was there under Kirk's name. Prince had been taking his normal medicines but now he's showing signs of addiction???

Was someone was taking his normal Percocet and switching them to something stronger?

AS FAR AS MURDER or using my term ASSASSINATION the one thing my gut is telling me is BALTIMORE.

Google Black Lives Matter leadership deaths and see what you get.