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Reply #60 posted 02/12/18 3:47pm

OldFriends4Sal
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morningsong said:

Y'all sure know how to wring the fun out of a fantasy.





wrung it right out

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Reply #61 posted 02/12/18 4:35pm

luvsexy4all

so now people want to buy it so THEY can sell it to vagina companies????

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Reply #62 posted 02/12/18 4:36pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:



Adorecream said:




laurarichardson said:



MJ's grandfather was names Prince. Is this school people on MJ day. I am not even that big of an MJ fan and I know that much.



All true.


Prince Scruse (1897 - 1946) the family name was originally Screws given to an earlier ancestor by a slave owner, but Prince changed the name to make it less offensive. Everyone knows how close Michael was to Katherine and it made sense to include her family's names in his kids names - Prince Michael Jackson 1 and Paris Michael Katherine Jackson.


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For those of you not in the know, Prince is an incredibly common Black people name in the USA and even in Nigeria especially amongst the Ibo and Igbo peoples of the South East. It is however banned in the British Commonwealth as royal titles can not be used as first names. Here about 100 Maori and Islanders (White people like real names like Sophie and James) try names like Majesty, Realm, Rulaz, King, Prince, Earl etc.




Prince is a common name among people of Color?



I've been alive for 45yrs in the States and Prince is the only man of color I know names Prince.
Cannot count Michael Jacksons son.


I know a few and Ahmir is Prince in Arabic and it is very common.
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Reply #63 posted 02/12/18 4:59pm

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I was going to grab this with the 'buy it now', but then I saw he isn't offering free shipping and wants another dollar. The cheek of it.

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Reply #64 posted 02/12/18 6:34pm

OldFriends4Sal
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laurarichardson said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Prince is a common name among people of Color?

I've been alive for 45yrs in the States and Prince is the only man of color I know names Prince.
Cannot count Michael Jacksons son.

I know a few and Ahmir is Prince in Arabic and it is very common.

Ahmir is arabic.

I don't know boys named Prince it is not a very common

Prince Rogers Nelson is the only Prince I knew of know of

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Reply #65 posted 02/12/18 7:30pm

Adorecream

OldFriends4Sale said:

laurarichardson said:

OldFriends4Sale said: I know a few and Ahmir is Prince in Arabic and it is very common.

Ahmir is arabic.

I don't know boys named Prince it is not a very common

Prince Rogers Nelson is the only Prince I knew of know of

Okay maybe not now, but in the Slavery and Jim Crow era it was. Prince was born in 1958 after all and his parents were southern Blacks. The name is a bit out of date then and very so now.

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It is like someone naming their child really old names like Archibald, Edmund, Ethel, Maud, Clorine, Arlene and Obadiah I guess.

[Edited 2/12/18 19:31pm]

Got some kind of love for you, and I don't even know your name
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Reply #66 posted 02/12/18 8:27pm

jdcxc

MC Hammer put a lot of $$$ in Prince’s pockets.
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Reply #67 posted 02/12/18 8:40pm

PeteSilas

jdcxc said:

MC Hammer put a lot of $$$ in Prince’s pockets.

good for him i always liked him even when his own folks ran him down.

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Reply #68 posted 02/12/18 8:40pm

purplefam99

Adorecream said:



OldFriends4Sale said:




laurarichardson said:


OldFriends4Sale said: I know a few and Ahmir is Prince in Arabic and it is very common.


Ahmir is arabic.

I don't know boys named Prince it is not a very common


Prince Rogers Nelson is the only Prince I knew of know of



Okay maybe not now, but in the Slavery and Jim Crow era it was. Prince was born in 1958 after all and his parents were southern Blacks. The name is a bit out of date then and very so now.


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It is like someone naming their child really old names like Archibald, Edmund, Ethel, Maud, Clorine, Arlene and Obadiah I guess.

[Edited 2/12/18 19:31pm]



I have an older cousin named Princess.
And I always kinda liked how in Latin American countries
They think nothing off nor odd about naming a child Jesus.
But pronounced “hey sus”. That name is super common.
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Reply #69 posted 02/12/18 9:49pm

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As posted on Michael Dean's Facebook page:

Michael Dean

· 8 hrs ·

Moon said he made more money off the song thanks to MC Hammer's sampling of it than he did on the Prince version. The rapper used it as the basis for "She's Soft and Wet," a track on his 1990 blockbuster album "Please Hammer, Don't Hurt 'Em."

"Anyone who buys this probably shouldn't be doing it for financial purposes," Moon admitted. "It's more about owning one of the most unique collectibles ever related to Prince."

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Reply #70 posted 02/12/18 10:59pm

ShaggyDog

OnlyNDaUsa said:



laurarichardson said:




OnlyNDaUsa said:


maybe MJ's estate will buy it...



Why would they do that. No one told the estate manager to sell Beatles catalogue?



Let Mike estate make money off of Mike's catalogue.







same reason why MJ named his sons Prince. Just to rub it in.



I'd always just assumed that Michael gave him that name because he was known as The King Of Pop, so therefore his son would be a prince.
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Reply #71 posted 02/13/18 4:19am

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luv4u said:

As posted on Michael Dean's Facebook page:

Michael Dean

· 8 hrs ·

Moon said he made more money off the song thanks to MC Hammer's sampling of it than he did on the Prince version. The rapper used it as the basis for "She's Soft and Wet," a track on his 1990 blockbuster album "Please Hammer, Don't Hurt 'Em."

"Anyone who buys this probably shouldn't be doing it for financial purposes," Moon admitted. "It's more about owning one of the most unique collectibles ever related to Prince."

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Why not credit the actual source: the Star Tribune article?

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Reply #72 posted 02/13/18 4:21am

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ShaggyDog said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

same reason why MJ named his sons Prince. Just to rub it in.

I'd always just assumed that Michael gave him that name because he was known as The King Of Pop

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"he was known as" -- what BS. He required MTV call him that.

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Reply #73 posted 02/13/18 7:47am

jdcxc

The Tribune article underestimates the Royalties this song has probably generated for Moon (I don’t know why they didn’t ask him).

For You- 500,000
Single- 350,000
Hits- 2,000,000
Kiss B Side- ?
4Ever- 1,000,000
MCHammer- 10,000,000

Not to mention performance fees, digital sales, international sales, etc.

My calculated Guess is that he has made $500,000 already on the one song.
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Reply #74 posted 02/13/18 7:59am

OnlyNDaUsa

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jdcxc said:

The Tribune article underestimates the Royalties this song has probably generated for Moon (I don’t know why they didn’t ask him). For You- 500,000 Single- 350,000 Hits- 2,000,000 Kiss B Side- ? 4Ever- 1,000,000 MCHammer- 10,000,000 Not to mention performance fees, digital sales, international sales, etc. My calculated Guess is that he has made $500,000 already on the one song.

how do they break up songs on an album? if there are 10 songs is each one 1/10?

and then what would the % be? maybe 5% so 2.5%? So even at a dollar each.... 2.5 cents is $550K...and I suspect that is high. But maybe that is why he used that amount?

"Keep on shilling for Big Pharm!"
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Reply #75 posted 02/13/18 8:37am

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For the Prince fan who has everything. I bet Questlove wants it.

"That's when stars collide. When there's space for what u want, and ur heart is open wide."
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Reply #76 posted 02/13/18 8:41am

OnlyNDaUsa

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SchlomoThaHomo said:

For the Prince fan who has everything. I bet Questlove wants it.

it is just for bragging rights... and it doesn't include publishing so the owner can not sell it to be used for any reason without the permission from whoever is the admin for the publishing company.

It will never pay for itself... and you can not do anything with it.

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Reply #77 posted 02/13/18 8:50am

OldFriends4Sal
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Adorecream said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Ahmir is arabic.

I don't know boys named Prince it is not a very common

Prince Rogers Nelson is the only Prince I knew of know of

Okay maybe not now, but in the Slavery and Jim Crow era it was. Prince was born in 1958 after all and his parents were southern Blacks. The name is a bit out of date then and very so now.

.

It is like someone naming their child really old names like Archibald, Edmund, Ethel, Maud, Clorine, Arlene and Obadiah I guess.

[Edited 2/12/18 19:31pm]

I don't think that can even be backed that up, that Prince was a common name during the Slave and Jim Crow period in America. Maybe as a middle name or nickname?

names like Sunday Tuesday April May June August December Christmas America Easter were regular slave names
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I mean you started out saying it was a very common name in America, then switched to it being a common name during the slavery and Jim Crow period. Did you get that from a site called Behind the Name?

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...naming your child Prince or Princess is just setting them up for teasing

...sounds like a gay man's nickname...

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My parents both mixed race born in the 1940s have never know a person of color named Prince

I'm not saying there were no people named Prince(outside of Prince Rogers Nelson) but Prince wasn't/isn't a common name

.

I know of an actress named Countess, Gulianna DePandi gave her son the middle name Duke

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Prince might have been a popular middle name?

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Royalty names just sound like names you would call a pet dog cat bird or horse

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Reply #78 posted 02/13/18 9:02am

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Over the last 25 years, I have known 3 or 4 people named Prince as a first name... all were born after Prince was well known.

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Reply #79 posted 02/13/18 9:20am

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jdcxc said:

The Tribune article underestimates the Royalties this song has probably generated for Moon (I don’t know why they didn’t ask him). For You- 500,000 Single- 350,000 Hits- 2,000,000 Kiss B Side- ? 4Ever- 1,000,000 MCHammer- 10,000,000 Not to mention performance fees, digital sales, international sales, etc. My calculated Guess is that he has made $500,000 already on the one song.

That took years and who ever buys this will be limited due to small revenue today because of streaming and no one is buying MC Hammer's music. I doubt the estate will allow it to be licensed for movies or commericials. He has a right to sell it but he is asking too much.

Not sure why he does not go to Universal.

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Reply #80 posted 02/13/18 9:24am

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OldFriends4Sale said:

Adorecream said:

Okay maybe not now, but in the Slavery and Jim Crow era it was. Prince was born in 1958 after all and his parents were southern Blacks. The name is a bit out of date then and very so now.

.

It is like someone naming their child really old names like Archibald, Edmund, Ethel, Maud, Clorine, Arlene and Obadiah I guess.

[Edited 2/12/18 19:31pm]

I don't think that can even be backed that up, that Prince was a common name during the Slave and Jim Crow period in America. Maybe as a middle name or nickname?

names like Sunday Tuesday April May June August December Christmas America Easter were regular slave names
.
I mean you started out saying it was a very common name in America, then switched to it being a common name during the slavery and Jim Crow period. Did you get that from a site called Behind the Name?

.

.

...naming your child Prince or Princess is just setting them up for teasing

...sounds like a gay man's nickname...

.

.

My parents both mixed race born in the 1940s have never know a person of color named Prince

I'm not saying there were no people named Prince(outside of Prince Rogers Nelson) but Prince wasn't/isn't a common name

.

I know of an actress named Countess, Gulianna DePandi gave her son the middle name Duke

.

Prince might have been a popular middle name?

.

Royalty names just sound like names you would call a pet dog cat bird or horse

https://en.wikipedia.org/...ce_Fielder

Personal life[edit]

Fielder was named after the musician Prince.[58] He married his wife Chanel in 2005 during the Triple-A All-Star break while playing for the Nashville Sounds. They have two children named Jadyn and Haven.[59] Fielder filed for divorce in May 2013. By March 2014, he and his wife had reconciled.[60]

Fielder has a tattoo on the left side of his neck that reads, "왕자", Korean for "Prince".[61]

At one time, it was widely publicized that Prince was a vegetarian[62] but he has since admitted that he lasted only about three months before giving it up.[63]

[Edited 2/13/18 9:27am]

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Reply #81 posted 02/13/18 9:28am

OnlyNDaUsa

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laurarichardson said:

jdcxc said:

The Tribune article underestimates the Royalties this song has probably generated for Moon (I don’t know why they didn’t ask him). For You- 500,000 Single- 350,000 Hits- 2,000,000 Kiss B Side- ? 4Ever- 1,000,000 MCHammer- 10,000,000 Not to mention performance fees, digital sales, international sales, etc. My calculated Guess is that he has made $500,000 already on the one song.

That took years and who ever buys this will be limited due to small revenue today because of streaming and no one is buying MC Hammer's music. I doubt the estate will allow it to be licensed for movies or commericials. He has a right to sell it but he is asking too much.

Not sure why he does not go to Universal.



He is not selling it as an investment for royalties.... its value, in terms of future earnings, is a few thousand MAX. Maybe $5K... and it comes with zero say it how it is used.

"Keep on shilling for Big Pharm!"
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Reply #82 posted 02/13/18 10:28am

OldFriends4Sal
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laurarichardson said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I don't think that can even be backed that up, that Prince was a common name during the Slave and Jim Crow period in America. Maybe as a middle name or nickname?

names like Sunday Tuesday April May June August December Christmas America Easter were regular slave names
.
I mean you started out saying it was a very common name in America, then switched to it being a common name during the slavery and Jim Crow period. Did you get that from a site called Behind the Name?

.

.

...naming your child Prince or Princess is just setting them up for teasing

...sounds like a gay man's nickname...

.

.

My parents both mixed race born in the 1940s have never know a person of color named Prince

I'm not saying there were no people named Prince(outside of Prince Rogers Nelson) but Prince wasn't/isn't a common name

.

I know of an actress named Countess, Gulianna DePandi gave her son the middle name Duke

.

Prince might have been a popular middle name?

.

Royalty names just sound like names you would call a pet dog cat bird or horse

https://en.wikipedia.org/...ce_Fielder

Personal life[edit]

Fielder was named after the musician Prince.[58] He married his wife Chanel in 2005 during the Triple-A All-Star break while playing for the Nashville Sounds. They have two children named Jadyn and Haven.[59] Fielder filed for divorce in May 2013. By March 2014, he and his wife had reconciled.[60]

Fielder has a tattoo on the left side of his neck that reads, "왕자", Korean for "Prince".[61]

At one time, it was widely publicized that Prince was a vegetarian[62] but he has since admitted that he lasted only about three months before giving it up.[63]

[Edited 2/13/18 9:27am]

1 person. Plus Prince + Michael Jacksons son

Prince is not a common name. Nor is Beyonce, in America, in France it is. She beign Creole descendant. But as a result a few people have named their girl child 'Beyonce' which can be bad for the child if she isn't fine.

People name their children after celebs all the time. And in the arts/music circle all kinds of names are used or among hippies

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Reply #83 posted 02/13/18 10:28am

OldFriends4Sal
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SchlomoThaHomo said:

For the Prince fan who has everything. I bet Questlove wants it.

lol Probably or Jimmy Fallon.

Justin Timberlake better stay far away lol

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Reply #84 posted 02/13/18 10:58am

jdcxc

OnlyNDaUsa said:



laurarichardson said:




jdcxc said:


The Tribune article underestimates the Royalties this song has probably generated for Moon (I don’t know why they didn’t ask him). For You- 500,000 Single- 350,000 Hits- 2,000,000 Kiss B Side- ? 4Ever- 1,000,000 MCHammer- 10,000,000 Not to mention performance fees, digital sales, international sales, etc. My calculated Guess is that he has made $500,000 already on the one song.

That took years and who ever buys this will be limited due to small revenue today because of streaming and no one is buying MC Hammer's music. I doubt the estate will allow it to be licensed for movies or commericials. He has a right to sell it but he is asking too much.



Not sure why he does not go to Universal.





He is not selling it as an investment for royalties.... its value, in terms of future earnings, is a few thousand MAX. Maybe $5K... and it comes with zero say it how it is used.



Not sure about your numbers. The Greatest Hits packages which sold well gave Moon thousands in royalties (Industry Rate= .091 * Numbers sold). That song will be sold forever. Not to mention possible movies, commercials, performances.

I agree that the song’s value has probably peaked, but you never know with future WB marketing plans and use.
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Reply #85 posted 02/13/18 11:15am

OnlyNDaUsa

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jdcxc said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:



He is not selling it as an investment for royalties.... its value, in terms of future earnings, is a few thousand MAX. Maybe $5K... and it comes with zero say it how it is used.

Not sure about your numbers. The Greatest Hits packages which sold well gave Moon thousands in royalties (Industry Rate= .091 * Numbers sold). That song will be sold forever. Not to mention possible movies, commercials, performances. I agree that the song’s value has probably peaked, but you never know with future WB marketing plans and use.

.091 of what? and is that not cut in half? And with 10 songs (really more on average) that becomes less than half a cent per. But at 22Million that is 990K. So maybe it will pay for itself.

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Reply #86 posted 02/13/18 11:17am

luvsexy4all

but if one was to buy this ....wouldnt they STILL have to confer with those estaters ?

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Reply #87 posted 02/13/18 11:21am

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luvsexy4all said:

but if one was to buy this ....wouldnt they STILL have to confer with those estaters ?

no, what would happen is the name on the royalty checks changes. but owning half the song, in this case, doesn't come with ANY authority as to its use. Prince was advised (by Chris or Owen) to create a publishing company... all the publishing rights were retained by Prince's publishing company Ecnirp... (yes I have known that for decades) so Chris never had any say and neither will anyone that buys his share.

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Reply #88 posted 02/13/18 12:15pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

laurarichardson said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/...ce_Fielder

Personal life[edit]

Fielder was named after the musician Prince.[58] He married his wife Chanel in 2005 during the Triple-A All-Star break while playing for the Nashville Sounds. They have two children named Jadyn and Haven.[59] Fielder filed for divorce in May 2013. By March 2014, he and his wife had reconciled.[60]

Fielder has a tattoo on the left side of his neck that reads, "왕자", Korean for "Prince".[61]

At one time, it was widely publicized that Prince was a vegetarian[62] but he has since admitted that he lasted only about three months before giving it up.[63]

[Edited 2/13/18 9:27am]

1 person. Plus Prince + Michael Jacksons son

Prince is not a common name. Nor is Beyonce, in America, in France it is. She beign Creole descendant. But as a result a few people have named their girl child 'Beyonce' which can be bad for the child if she isn't fine.

People name their children after celebs all the time. And in the arts/music circle all kinds of names are used or among hippies

You need to get out more.

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Reply #89 posted 02/13/18 12:16pm

laurarichardso
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OnlyNDaUsa said:

luvsexy4all said:

but if one was to buy this ....wouldnt they STILL have to confer with those estaters ?

no, what would happen is the name on the royalty checks changes. but owning half the song, in this case, doesn't come with ANY authority as to its use. Prince was advised (by Chris or Owen) to create a publishing company... all the publishing rights were retained by Prince's publishing company Ecnirp... (yes I have known that for decades) so Chris never had any say and neither will anyone that buys his share.

Then he is trying to sucker people with that price and he must be in need of funds.

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