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Reply #210 posted 02/09/18 10:09am

Hamad

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Hamad said:

Hmm. Whatever you say, lady smile

You are the only one that wants to see him make an ass out of himself on Netflix.

Because you know me so well smile putting your hostility aside, I love Quincy Jones and his music legacy speak for itself. A bunch of grumpy Prince fans won't shake that. His views about MJ & Prince are HIS views only. They don't affect how I feel toward both artists, nor do they diminish his own legacy. You have total choice to be angry about his words if you want to, I choose to enjoy the Netflix when it arrives. If it makes me the "only" person here who anticipates it, so be it smile

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Reply #211 posted 02/09/18 10:10am

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i remember when he came to the court for the mj thing in a wheelchair, trying to get sympathy, i said i wished i was there to roll his ass down the steps and someone said I was wrong. was I wrong?

No he was in his rights to sue the estate but he was much too gleeful about it and he appears to no

longer need a wheel chair. I wonder where it went to. I also think all of this behavior could be related to money. He might be in need of cash.

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Reply #212 posted 02/09/18 10:11am

PeteSilas

Hamad said:

laurarichardson said:

You are the only one that wants to see him make an ass out of himself on Netflix.

Because you know me so well smile putting your hostility aside, I love Quincy Jones and his music legacy speak for itself. A bunch of grumpy Prince fans won't shake that. His views about MJ & Prince are HIS views only. They don't affect how I feel toward both artists, nor do they diminish his own legacy. You have total choice to be angry about his words if you want to, I choose to enjoy the Netflix when it arrives. If it makes me the "only" person here who anticipates it, so be it smile

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look hamad, we ain't looking forward to it whatsoever so go to your room and wait for it.

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Reply #213 posted 02/09/18 10:15am

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PeteSilas said:

Hamad said:

Because you know me so well smile putting your hostility aside, I love Quincy Jones and his music legacy speak for itself. A bunch of grumpy Prince fans won't shake that. His views about MJ & Prince are HIS views only. They don't affect how I feel toward both artists, nor do they diminish his own legacy. You have total choice to be angry about his words if you want to, I choose to enjoy the Netflix when it arrives. If it makes me the "only" person here who anticipates it, so be it smile

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look hamad, we ain't looking forward to it whatsoever so go to your room and wait for it.

Aww! I love you too hug

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Reply #214 posted 02/09/18 10:15am

PeteSilas

Hamad said:

PeteSilas said:

look hamad, we ain't looking forward to it whatsoever so go to your room and wait for it.

Aww! I love you too hug

hamad, damn you hamad.

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Reply #215 posted 02/09/18 10:36am

morningsong

Given the things that Quincy has said so far, this to me as a Prince fan isn't that big, but I guess if one is a diehard MJ fan and having little knowledge of Prince, this kind of stuff keeps the manufactured feud just going.

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Reply #216 posted 02/09/18 2:52pm

purple05

PeteSilas said:

i remember when he came to the court for the mj thing in a wheelchair, trying to get sympathy, i said i wished i was there to roll his ass down the steps and someone said I was wrong. was I wrong?


Yes very wrong lol


As for Prince, he was a piece of work to, let’s not kid ourselves but he wasn’t a monster and he didn’t have a wholesome image. There was some great tea about him spilled on LSA but the thread was removed
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Reply #217 posted 02/09/18 3:05pm

PeteSilas

purple05 said:

PeteSilas said:

i remember when he came to the court for the mj thing in a wheelchair, trying to get sympathy, i said i wished i was there to roll his ass down the steps and someone said I was wrong. was I wrong?

Yes very wrong lol As for Prince, he was a piece of work to, let’s not kid ourselves but he wasn’t a monster and he didn’t have a wholesome image. There was some great tea about him spilled on LSA but the thread was removed

prince hid in plain view for the most part, he didn't try to con people. what was some of the tea on lsa about him? Probably been heard here too. there was a crazy one about P and Tevin started by ben baller a few years ago, that's just how it goes. People get crazy ideas in they heads. I can't think of any public figure that doesn't have some crazy rumor about them, Duke Ellington and his co writer, billy strayhorn were presumed to be lovers by Dukes own son, why his son would think that and why he would make it public? People are fucking crazy.

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Reply #218 posted 02/09/18 4:49pm

Hamad

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PeteSilas said:



purple05 said:


PeteSilas said:

i remember when he came to the court for the mj thing in a wheelchair, trying to get sympathy, i said i wished i was there to roll his ass down the steps and someone said I was wrong. was I wrong?



Yes very wrong lol As for Prince, he was a piece of work to, let’s not kid ourselves but he wasn’t a monster and he didn’t have a wholesome image. There was some great tea about him spilled on LSA but the thread was removed

prince hid in plain view for the most part, he didn't try to con people. what was some of the tea on lsa about him? Probably been heard here too. there was a crazy one about P and Tevin started by ben baller a few years ago, that's just how it goes. People get crazy ideas in they heads. I can't think of any public figure that doesn't have some crazy rumor about them, Duke Ellington and his co writer, billy strayhorn were presumed to be lovers by Dukes own son, why his son would think that and why he would make it public? People are fucking crazy.



Duke Ellington’s relationship with Billy Strayhorn wasn’t a secret though. His granddaughter Mercedes kinda mentioned something about that before, but not in a spilling the tea fashion. I’m not surprised in the least, in fact thats actually cool.
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Reply #219 posted 02/09/18 4:56pm

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laurarichardson said:

(...)

The stuff he said about Big Pharma influence even back in the Clinton days was very telling. A foreshadowing of what we are dealing with now. I also feel like he was honest about Trump and fell other celebs know the real Mr. Trump all too well.

Yes, and almost nobody commented about it.

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Reply #220 posted 02/09/18 5:02pm

PeteSilas

Hamad said:

PeteSilas said:

prince hid in plain view for the most part, he didn't try to con people. what was some of the tea on lsa about him? Probably been heard here too. there was a crazy one about P and Tevin started by ben baller a few years ago, that's just how it goes. People get crazy ideas in they heads. I can't think of any public figure that doesn't have some crazy rumor about them, Duke Ellington and his co writer, billy strayhorn were presumed to be lovers by Dukes own son, why his son would think that and why he would make it public? People are fucking crazy.

Duke Ellington’s relationship with Billy Strayhorn wasn’t a secret though. His granddaughter Mercedes kinda mentioned something about that before, but not in a spilling the tea fashion. I’m not surprised in the least, in fact thats actually cool.

damn you hamad, damn you damn you damn you

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Reply #221 posted 02/09/18 5:03pm

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About Marvin´s sexuality...somebody posted it on Twitter. It doesnt mean he was bi, but...

(not that I care, but it shows Quincy may not have been so senile)

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Reply #222 posted 02/09/18 6:13pm

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Also I’m sure there are times when MJ didn’t get credit or he gave credit to others when they didn’t really contribute. It works both ways.

It does. In fact, since we are talking about Greg. MJ and him co-wrote MJs version of Behind the Mask. MJ didn't record it, then Greg took the song to Eric Clapton who recorded it.On his album MJ wasn't given credits only Greg and the writers of the original song. So it works both ways, indeed.

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Reply #223 posted 02/09/18 6:59pm

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Goddess4Real said:




Also I’m sure there are times when MJ didn’t get credit or he gave credit to others when they didn’t really contribute. It works both ways.



It does. In fact, since we are talking about Greg. MJ and him co-wrote MJs version of Behind the Mask. MJ didn't record it, then Greg took the song to Eric Clapton who recorded it.On his album MJ wasn't given credits only Greg and the writers of the original song. So it works both ways, indeed.


—Well I am sorry Mike made millions off of Thriller think he owed Greg one.
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Reply #224 posted 02/09/18 7:01pm

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Hamad said:

PeteSilas said:



purple05 said:


PeteSilas said:

i remember when he came to the court for the mj thing in a wheelchair, trying to get sympathy, i said i wished i was there to roll his ass down the steps and someone said I was wrong. was I wrong?



Yes very wrong lol As for Prince, he was a piece of work to, let’s not kid ourselves but he wasn’t a monster and he didn’t have a wholesome image. There was some great tea about him spilled on LSA but the thread was removed

prince hid in plain view for the most part, he didn't try to con people. what was some of the tea on lsa about him? Probably been heard here too. there was a crazy one about P and Tevin started by ben baller a few years ago, that's just how it goes. People get crazy ideas in they heads. I can't think of any public figure that doesn't have some crazy rumor about them, Duke Ellington and his co writer, billy strayhorn were presumed to be lovers by Dukes own son, why his son would think that and why he would make it public? People are fucking crazy.



Duke Ellington’s relationship with Billy Strayhorn wasn’t a secret though. His granddaughter Mercedes kinda mentioned something about that before, but not in a spilling the tea fashion. I’m not surprised in the least, in fact thats actually cool.

I think someone has an agenda.
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Reply #225 posted 02/09/18 7:10pm

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purple05 said:

PeteSilas said:

i remember when he came to the court for the mj thing in a wheelchair, trying to get sympathy, i said i wished i was there to roll his ass down the steps and someone said I was wrong. was I wrong?


Yes very wrong lol


As for Prince, he was a piece of work to, let’s not kid ourselves but he wasn’t a monster and he didn’t have a wholesome image. There was some great tea about him spilled on LSA but the thread was removed

—He has multiple relationships with many women and they all knew about one another. He was open about his shit and I never though he even attempted to have a wholesome image and in the end he was doing all sorts of good things the public knew nothing about.
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Reply #226 posted 02/09/18 7:14pm

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Goddess4Real said:

Also I’m sure there are times when MJ didn’t get credit or he gave credit to others when they didn’t really contribute. It works both ways.

It does. In fact, since we are talking about Greg. MJ and him co-wrote MJs version of Behind the Mask. MJ didn't record it, then Greg took the song to Eric Clapton who recorded it.On his album MJ wasn't given credits only Greg and the writers of the original song. So it works both ways, indeed.

Lawd that is that karma! So they was even and according to Greg they were cool so, but fuck it good for Greg lol.

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Reply #227 posted 02/09/18 7:16pm

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laurarichardson said:

purple05 said:
Yes very wrong lol As for Prince, he was a piece of work to, let’s not kid ourselves but he wasn’t a monster and he didn’t have a wholesome image. There was some great tea about him spilled on LSA but the thread was removed
—He has multiple relationships with many women and they all knew about one another. He was open about his shit and I never though he even attempted to have a wholesome image and in the end he was doing all sorts of good things the public knew nothing about.

ok, i admit i was wrong for wanting to roll q down the stairs, i even posted it on his facebook, i was wrong. but it seemed right at the time.

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Reply #228 posted 02/09/18 8:37pm

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laurarichardson said:

Hamad said:



Duke Ellington’s relationship with Billy Strayhorn wasn’t a secret though. His granddaughter Mercedes kinda mentioned something about that before, but not in a spilling the tea fashion. I’m not surprised in the least, in fact thats actually cool.

I think someone has an agenda.


lol
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Reply #229 posted 02/09/18 8:41pm

PeteSilas

Hamad said:

laurarichardson said:
I think someone has an agenda.
lol

damn you

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Reply #230 posted 02/10/18 2:32am

jcurley

Goddess4Real said:




Also I’m sure there are times when MJ didn’t get credit or he gave credit to others when they didn’t really contribute. It works both ways.



It does. In fact, since we are talking about Greg. MJ and him co-wrote MJs version of Behind the Mask. MJ didn't record it, then Greg took the song to Eric Clapton who recorded it.On his album MJ wasn't given credits only Greg and the writers of the original song. So it works both ways, indeed.



Do you actually believe MJ wrote a song. It's not even an attack on MJ. Even though it does drive me bonkers that a pop star constantly gets compared to Prince. Wouldn't cross my mind to listen to MJ beyond radio n cheesy family get togethers.

I mean more like Madonna etc. Isn't more they're just so part of the process they get credit. But never could wear that hat on their own

To be honest my true take is that writers and producers share credit to get a slice of guarenteed sales. The business model created by the colonel for Elvis.

MJ never grew up to be a writer he wouldn't need to. He was a child of the 60s. He wouldn't have that obsession of being a singer songwriter fashioned by Dylan and the Beatles. He was very much part of a factory.Motown. and vety much did not veer from music as a product mentality.

Yeh sorry. Got my dig in. Cant bear him
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Reply #231 posted 02/10/18 7:35am

PeteSilas

i must reiterate, q is stewing because he feels people question his contribution to michaels albums, they dogged him in court, grilled him about what he did in the studio and remember, someone also said that q never wanted billy jean on the album, he says "that's a lie" but someone did say that.

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Reply #232 posted 02/10/18 11:25am

purple05

PeteSilas said:



purple05 said:


PeteSilas said:

i remember when he came to the court for the mj thing in a wheelchair, trying to get sympathy, i said i wished i was there to roll his ass down the steps and someone said I was wrong. was I wrong?



Yes very wrong lol As for Prince, he was a piece of work to, let’s not kid ourselves but he wasn’t a monster and he didn’t have a wholesome image. There was some great tea about him spilled on LSA but the thread was removed

prince hid in plain view for the most part, he didn't try to con people. what was some of the tea on lsa about him? Probably been heard here too. there was a crazy one about P and Tevin started by ben baller a few years ago, that's just how it goes. People get crazy ideas in they heads. I can't think of any public figure that doesn't have some crazy rumor about them, Duke Ellington and his co writer, billy strayhorn were presumed to be lovers by Dukes own son, why his son would think that and why he would make it public? People are fucking crazy.


It was so long who I can’t remember everything. But it was nothing about him molesting anyone. I don’t believe that AT ALL. I remember reading something about he and Chili but I dont remember the rest. It was so long ago and then it was deleted.
People are attention starved. Even if I thought my dad was gay AND knew his lover I wouldn’t tell the world unless he did.
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Reply #233 posted 02/10/18 11:27am

PeteSilas

purple05 said:

PeteSilas said:

prince hid in plain view for the most part, he didn't try to con people. what was some of the tea on lsa about him? Probably been heard here too. there was a crazy one about P and Tevin started by ben baller a few years ago, that's just how it goes. People get crazy ideas in they heads. I can't think of any public figure that doesn't have some crazy rumor about them, Duke Ellington and his co writer, billy strayhorn were presumed to be lovers by Dukes own son, why his son would think that and why he would make it public? People are fucking crazy.

It was so long who I can’t remember everything. But it was nothing about him molesting anyone. I don’t believe that AT ALL. I remember reading something about he and Chili but I dont remember the rest. It was so long ago and then it was deleted. People are attention starved. Even if I thought my dad was gay AND knew his lover I wouldn’t tell the world unless he did.

ya, i heard the thing about chili, I could see prince doing that, he was mean. and as far as your dad, that's what i'm saying, why concern yourself with your parents sex lives let alone comment on it? wierd.

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Reply #234 posted 02/10/18 11:43am

purple05

laurarichardson said:

Goddess4Real said:




Also I’m sure there are times when MJ didn’t get credit or he gave credit to others when they didn’t really contribute. It works both ways.



It does. In fact, since we are talking about Greg. MJ and him co-wrote MJs version of Behind the Mask. MJ didn't record it, then Greg took the song to Eric Clapton who recorded it.On his album MJ wasn't given credits only Greg and the writers of the original song. So it works both ways, indeed.


—Well I am sorry Mike made millions off of Thriller think he owed Greg one.

I think that was the point of the post. It goes both ways
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Reply #235 posted 02/10/18 11:46am

purple05

laurarichardson said:

purple05 said:


Yes very wrong lol


As for Prince, he was a piece of work to, let’s not kid ourselves but he wasn’t a monster and he didn’t have a wholesome image. There was some great tea about him spilled on LSA but the thread was removed

—He has multiple relationships with many women and they all knew about one another. He was open about his shit and I never though he even attempted to have a wholesome image and in the end he was doing all sorts of good things the public knew nothing about.

Even though I’m a woman I’m to that but how he would treat people in general. Even still I don’t think Prince was as bad like many of his colleagues. Some of them are into some very demonic stuff.
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Reply #236 posted 02/10/18 11:50am

purple05

jcurley said:

Goddess4Real said:




Also I’m sure there are times when MJ didn’t get credit or he gave credit to others when they didn’t really contribute. It works both ways.



It does. In fact, since we are talking about Greg. MJ and him co-wrote MJs version of Behind the Mask. MJ didn't record it, then Greg took the song to Eric Clapton who recorded it.On his album MJ wasn't given credits only Greg and the writers of the original song. So it works both ways, indeed.



Do you actually believe MJ wrote a song. It's not even an attack on MJ. Even though it does drive me bonkers that a pop star constantly gets compared to Prince. Wouldn't cross my mind to listen to MJ beyond radio n cheesy family get togethers.

I mean more like Madonna etc. Isn't more they're just so part of the process they get credit. But never could wear that hat on their own

To be honest my true take is that writers and producers share credit to get a slice of guarenteed sales. The business model created by the colonel for Elvis.

MJ never grew up to be a writer he wouldn't need to. He was a child of the 60s. He wouldn't have that obsession of being a singer songwriter fashioned by Dylan and the Beatles. He was very much part of a factory.Motown. and vety much did not veer from music as a product mentality.

Yeh sorry. Got my dig in. Cant bear him


So you’re trying to say MJ didn’t write at all? You can make a case that many artist ‘stole’ stuff. Quincy only said Greg was entitled to 10% for a C Section and he claims he took the baseline of BJ not the entire song. I don’t know how you turn that into he wasn’t a song writer. Please sit
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Reply #237 posted 02/10/18 12:02pm

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jcurley said:

Goddess4Real said:




Also I’m sure there are times when MJ didn’t get credit or he gave credit to others when they didn’t really contribute. It works both ways.



It does. In fact, since we are talking about Greg. MJ and him co-wrote MJs version of Behind the Mask. MJ didn't record it, then Greg took the song to Eric Clapton who recorded it.On his album MJ wasn't given credits only Greg and the writers of the original song. So it works both ways, indeed.



Do you actually believe MJ wrote a song. It's not even an attack on MJ. Even though it does drive me bonkers that a pop star constantly gets compared to Prince. Wouldn't cross my mind to listen to MJ beyond radio n cheesy family get togethers.

I mean more like Madonna etc. Isn't more they're just so part of the process they get credit. But never could wear that hat on their own

To be honest my true take is that writers and producers share credit to get a slice of guarenteed sales. The business model created by the colonel for Elvis.

MJ never grew up to be a writer he wouldn't need to. He was a child of the 60s. He wouldn't have that obsession of being a singer songwriter fashioned by Dylan and the Beatles. He was very much part of a factory.Motown. and vety much did not veer from music as a product mentality.

Yeh sorry. Got my dig in. Cant bear him


Your personal feelings toward Michael has crap to do with whether YOU believe Michael ever wrote a song. Michael wrote songs BEFORE Thriller made him a megastar. Michael’s first song that he wrote was “Blues Away”. He also wrote “Heartbreak Hotel”. These are just a few that he wrote as a member of The Jackson’s. That doesn’t take into account the ones he wrote on Off The Wall, Thriller, Bad(every song on album except one),Dangerous, HISTory, Invincible and songs for family members and other artists. I don’t have any idea whether you are ignorant of facts, uniformed or just too lazy to research information. However, that is no excuse for spewing false information. You haters need to not allow your PERSONAL feelings to get in the way of FACTS. Of course, maybe you are just to young to know what you are speaking of.
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Reply #238 posted 02/11/18 8:11am

PeteSilas

purple05 said:

laurarichardson said:
—He has multiple relationships with many women and they all knew about one another. He was open about his shit and I never though he even attempted to have a wholesome image and in the end he was doing all sorts of good things the public knew nothing about.
Even though I’m a woman I’m to that but how he would treat people in general. Even still I don’t think Prince was as bad like many of his colleagues. Some of them are into some very demonic stuff.

Prince wasn't nearly as bad as a lot of other people, he did asshole shit out in the open, i heard his asshole shit in the first year i was a fan. That's the difference, he didn't cover his shit up, he couldn't, and what it usually added up to was "oh, prince was mean to me and made me work hard". The only stories I heard that really even approach the stories i've heard about other people are the ones with jill jones and chili. which, lets face it when men get power they go a little crazy. Compared to these other folks he was an angel. Trust me, not too many in his sphere of stardom not gone and done some wicked crazy shit and gotten away with it, whether it's sinatra, sammy or elvis.

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Reply #239 posted 02/11/18 8:33am

PeteSilas

michael was a child prodigy as a performer and an artist, anyone that could write hits at, what was his first hit at? 16? has songwriting talent. Quincy's just pissed that they questioned him at that trial. Michael is one of the greatest pop songwriters ever, he really is.

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jcurley said:
Do you actually believe MJ wrote a song. It's not even an attack on MJ. Even though it does drive me bonkers that a pop star constantly gets compared to Prince. Wouldn't cross my mind to listen to MJ beyond radio n cheesy family get togethers. I mean more like Madonna etc. Isn't more they're just so part of the process they get credit. But never could wear that hat on their own To be honest my true take is that writers and producers share credit to get a slice of guarenteed sales. The business model created by the colonel for Elvis. MJ never grew up to be a writer he wouldn't need to. He was a child of the 60s. He wouldn't have that obsession of being a singer songwriter fashioned by Dylan and the Beatles. He was very much part of a factory.Motown. and vety much did not veer from music as a product mentality. Yeh sorry. Got my dig in. Cant bear him
Your personal feelings toward Michael has crap to do with whether YOU believe Michael ever wrote a song. Michael wrote songs BEFORE Thriller made him a megastar. Michael’s first song that he wrote was “Blues Away”. He also wrote “Heartbreak Hotel”. These are just a few that he wrote as a member of The Jackson’s. That doesn’t take into account the ones he wrote on Off The Wall, Thriller, Bad(every song on album except one),Dangerous, HISTory, Invincible and songs for family members and other artists. I don’t have any idea whether you are ignorant of facts, uniformed or just too lazy to research information. However, that is no excuse for spewing false information. You haters need to not allow your PERSONAL feelings to get in the way of FACTS. Of course, maybe you are just to young to know what you are speaking of. [Edited 2/10/18 12:04pm]

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