Because to me, "My Little Pill" is now Area 51.
Won't hear that shit again anywhere soon.

PeteSilas said:

laurarichardson said:

MJ was not a musician and he was not at Prince level as a musician. Not taking anything from MJ but it has gotten absurb but I think as we dig into the vault people will see.

wasn't a musician at all but he was a great songwriter, great producer, great arranger, great singer, great performer, great image sculptor, like i say, the dude was formidable and no one ever mentions that Prince might not have ever had a purple rain if it weren't for thriller just like Bruce might never have had a born in the usa, but it's the truth.

I never said MJ was not talented but he was not at P's level as a musician. I also think WB was putting pressure on Prince because of MJ so you are right. Prince may have been forced to move from RnB/Cult star due to Thriller.

bonatoc said:

Thing is, I don't think Michael can ever top his performances on History.
"The Earth Song", "Stranger In Moscow", "You Are Not Alone".
Dangerous is vocally impressive all along.

I mean, when it comes to Prince, the trouble is he is coming in one small, convenient,
for adults only package.

I think TMBGITW single is proof the vocal escalade prowesses between the two was useless ("Still Would Stand All Time", in its final form, is a response to Michael's "Man in the Mirror", it's blatant).
Just not raised on the same side of the Gospel.

But Michael could never coon as on "How Come U Don't Call Me Anymore?".
Say Michael, where's the girl?

Do you think Michael was naming one of his songs "Morphine"
as to convey some personal call for help?
Or was it just for kicks?

i think it was just an honest thing. i didn't hear it until after he died, because, like many of his fans, i sort of didn't follow him as close after the 80's. when i heard it, and i've always believed artists are prophets, I thought of Elvis' "Way Down" which is the same type of song to me, the kind that just raises the hairs on your back because you know they are singing about death and they aren't even fighting it, in Elvis' case, he was singing with glee, no joke, when i first heard it, it was like seeing or hearing a ghost.

bonatoc said:

Thing is, I don't think Michael can ever top his performances on History.
"The Earth Song", "Stranger In Moscow", "You Are Not Alone".
Dangerous is vocally impressive all along.

I mean, when it comes to Prince, the trouble is he is coming in one small, convenient,
for adults only package.

I think TMBGITW single is proof the vocal escalade prowesses between the two was useless ("Still Would Stand All Time", in its final form, is a response to Michael's "Man in the Mirror", it's blatant).
Just not raised on the same side of the Gospel.

But Michael could never coon as on "How Come U Don't Call Me Anymore?".
Say Michael, where's the girl?

Do you think Michael was naming one of his songs "Morphine"
as to convey some personal call for help?
Or was it just for kicks?

MJ was burned badly he may have needed some Morphine. Burns are extremely painful.

bonatoc said:

Because to me, "My Little Pill" is now Area 51.
Won't hear that shit again anywhere soon.

you think prince was singing that from a biographical place? I never heard that one i don't think.

PeteSilas said:

bonatoc said:

^ I'm gonna lend him an ear. I kinda skipped it despite good reviews.
I think I thought: "an EP, how lazy", in a very Princey way.

just check out morphine, i thought that was a great fucking tune, dark, spooky, a brilliant interlude, michael really did keep growing but people didn't want to see that and his other issues, let's be honest, had to have an impact on his creativity.

I guess what creativity means to me, it has to be something
that takes an experience and translates it as a story.
It can be sounds only, it doesn't matter.

"Hurt" works in the hands of Cash and Rubin because
it's true to the intent, not in the original form.
How could you top the nightmarish Reznor's major chords anyway?

The second Michael retreated in Wonderland, he cut off the faucet.

At least SKipper was doing genius paranoidfunskizoid stuff in Xanadu,
64 tracks packed with gospel stuff like :


Polyvinyl acetate, New Power Soul (Mercy)

The exodus has begun
These are the names of the children of the sun
Pumpin' the love sign in the days of wild
Tearin' shit up with a vengeance and still they smile (Still they smile)
Though their lives were made bitter with hard labor and no pay
These are the children that will come 2 save the day


... while Michael was discovering that, in addition of never letting the guy alone,
Girls have periodically periods, all over the dance floor, gross!

Sorry, but I'm gonna go "The Good Life" way. It's right there on the Vanillascope™.
Michael can give me a call when he grows up.

I have only one proof Michael was a man, and it's in "Keep The Faith".
For one brief moment, one single Michael's "Goooown!" reveals Michael,
and oh Michael where have you been gone for so too many long.
It's like your high note in the ad lib of "Wait".
It's like the glowing dawn of "Human Nature".

I've come to the theory you can't pass through this shit without losing your mind.
But it's only because how we defined what success is and how it should be lived.
On both sides of the fence. These cool cats, they popped shit pills for years
and now they're gone and we barely blink at the opioids crisis, for a few months.

Make me wanna holler, and all this shit.

Dirty bloody River of Blood. Don't look now but.
Got my boots caked in this mud.
Ah, America. Time to rise up.

Where have thou stars gone?
Nothing but the drugs?

bonatoc said:

PeteSilas said:

just check out morphine, i thought that was a great fucking tune, dark, spooky, a brilliant interlude, michael really did keep growing but people didn't want to see that and his other issues, let's be honest, had to have an impact on his creativity.

I guess what creativity means to me, it has to be something
that takes an experience and translates it as a story.
It can be sounds only, it doesn't matter.

"Hurt" works in the hands of Cash and Rubin because
it's true to the intent, not in the original form.
How could you top the nightmarish Reznor's major chords anyway?

The second Michael retreated in Wonderland, he cut off the faucet.

At least SKipper was doing genius paranoidfunskizoid stuff in Xanadu,
64 tracks packed with gospel stuff like :


Polyvinyl acetate, New Power Soul (Mercy)

The exodus has begun
These are the names of the children of the sun
Pumpin' the love sign in the days of wild
Tearin' shit up with a vengeance and still they smile (Still they smile)
Though their lives were made bitter with hard labor and no pay
These are the children that will come 2 save the day


... while Michael was discovering that, in addition of never letting the guy alone,
Girls have periodically periods, all over the dance floor, gross!

Sorry, but I'm gonna go "The Good Life" way. It's right there on the Vanillascope™.
Michael can give me a call when he grows up.

I have only one proof Michael was a man, and it's in "Keep The Faith".
For one brief moment, one single Michael's "Goooown!" reveals Michael,
and oh Michael where have you been gone for so too many long.
It's like your high note in the ad lib of "Wait".
It's like the glowing dawn of "Human Nature".

I've come to the theory you can't pass through this shit without losing your mind.
But it's only because how we defined what success is and how it should be lived.
On both sides of the fence. These cool cats, they popped shit pills for years
and now they're gone and we barely blink at the opioids crisis, for a few months.

Make me wanna holler, and all this shit.

Dirty bloody River of Blood. Don't look now but.
Got my boots caked in this mud.
Ah, America. Time to rise up.

Where have thou stars gone?
Nothing but the drugs?

both cash and trents hurt were brilliant in different ways, trent, being the iconoclast he is, was using some jarring, strange chords to get across the song, the production is used as an instrument. Cash's is the definitive version because it is the old troubador singing his eulogy. what always fascinated me about cash's performance was how the vitality had left his voice, the control and yet, somehow, he still managed to be more powerful than ever. It's almost like the stories of 94 year old kung fu masters being deadly.

bonatoc said:

Because to me, "My Little Pill" is now Area 51.
Won't hear that shit again anywhere soon.

He wrote it for a film.

PeteSilas said:

bonatoc said:

Because to me, "My Little Pill" is now Area 51.
Won't hear that shit again anywhere soon.

you think prince was singing that from a biographical place? I never heard that one i don't think.

It's totally subjective on my side.
Funny creepy fact : Before knowing Mayte and Prince son's real name,
I had this feeling "Anna Stesia" was a foreseeing, because of "Gregory's looked just like a ghost".
Which you know is total bullshit.
My mind naturally reels.

But someone out there initially made "Boy Gregory" circulate,
and it makes this precise sense, even if it's totally faked.
It's SKipper's "I always sing about my life" mantra and shit.
I'm a zealot for it. Therefore...
Every song he sings has to have a parcel of true experience.

Maybe it was Prince's initial reaction towards something that was proposed to him
as to ease his pains. There's no reason for it to be autobiographical.
But it's not less unsettling.

Even worse, if it's not autobiographical, now it's a lingering doubt to me,
the whole way he performs it. Either God punished him for mocking people in distress,
because it doesn't sound empathetic as Lou Reed can be on his own songs on the subject.

Like I said, even worse, Area 51 it is.
Pill embargo, big and little.

laurarichardson said:

bonatoc said:

Because to me, "My Little Pill" is now Area 51.
Won't hear that shit again anywhere soon.

He wrote it for a film.

Oh, he could have wrote it for the Pope,
won't hear that shit again anytime sooner. Anywhere's.

bonatoc said:

laurarichardson said:

He wrote it for a film.

Oh, he could have wrote it for the Pope,
won't hear that shit again anytime sooner. Anywhere's.

No, documented evidence that it was written specifically for the film. It was not used for the film at all so what would be the point. It would make no sense out of the context of the movie.

1 + 1 + 1 could as well be 4,
I don't care for the song no mo'.

Damn Girl, what it is that you don't listen?
Can't I have my me-no-like songs own drawer?

laurarichardson said:

bonatoc said:

Thing is, I don't think Michael can ever top his performances on History.
"The Earth Song", "Stranger In Moscow", "You Are Not Alone".
Dangerous is vocally impressive all along.

I mean, when it comes to Prince, the trouble is he is coming in one small, convenient,
for adults only package.

I think TMBGITW single is proof the vocal escalade prowesses between the two was useless ("Still Would Stand All Time", in its final form, is a response to Michael's "Man in the Mirror", it's blatant).
Just not raised on the same side of the Gospel.

But Michael could never coon as on "How Come U Don't Call Me Anymore?".
Say Michael, where's the girl?

Do you think Michael was naming one of his songs "Morphine"
as to convey some personal call for help?
Or was it just for kicks?

MJ was burned badly he may have needed some Morphine. Burns are extremely painful.

Laura, don't school me on the Pepsi incident, please.
I know the "Reply" button looks so sexy, but...

i don't think i've heard it, i'm checking to see if its in the voluminous downloads i've gotten since he died.

bonatoc said:

laurarichardson said:

MJ was burned badly he may have needed some Morphine. Burns are extremely painful.

Laura, don't school me on the Pepsi incident, please.
I know the "Reply" button looks so sexy, but...

If you do not need to be schooled. Then why go there?

bonatoc said:

1 + 1 + 1 could as well be 4,
I don't care for the song no mo'.

Damn Girl, what it is that you don't listen?
Can't I have my me-no-like songs own drawer?

This song has been out on the bootlegg market for years. James Brooks the director of the film has even done interviews about the project. I do not care for song either and it really would only make sense in the context of the movie. In fact none of the songs make sense outside of the moive.

Laura will be telling us next that bears shit in the woods

RJOrion said:

"Burns are extremely painful" ~laurarichardson

I am not the one that seemed to be making a joke out of morphine use. Sorry some folks on this board seem a tad clueless. Do not know if MJ needed it but he was in a horrible and painful accident. Seems lost on one of our posters.

jjam said:

Laura will be telling us next that bears shit in the woods

Can you go to the woods and take a shit?

laurarichardson said:

RJOrion said:

laurarichardson said:

I am not the one that seemed to be making a joke out of morphine use. Sorry some folks on this board seem a tad clueless. Do not know if MJ needed it but he was in a horrible and painful accident. Seems lost on one of our posters.

i know...i was just having fun with your Captain Obvious statement...ill just go shit in the woods with jjam...

RJOrion said:

"Burns are extremely painful" ~laurarichardson

As is said: school's in session.

RJOrion said:

laurarichardson said:

I am not the one that seemed to be making a joke out of morphine use. Sorry some folks on this board seem a tad clueless. Do not know if MJ needed it but he was in a horrible and painful accident. Seems lost on one of our posters.

i know...i was just having fun with your Captain Obvious statement...ill just go shit in the woods with jjam...

Spare me a spot, will ya?

purplethunder3121 said:

RJOrion said:

laurarichardson said: i know...i was just having fun with your Captain Obvious statement...ill just go shit in the woods with jjam...

You KNOW I gotta steal that one, purplethunder!

poppys said:

purplethunder3121 said:

You KNOW I gotta steal that one, purplethunder!

I hope you all enjoy your time in the woods. Say hello to Justin

Laura, I'm sorry if "just for kicks" seemed harsh,
but to my ears MJ's "Morphine"
is not the Velvet Underground's "Heroin".

I certainly feel empathy and sadness for any pain Michael had to go through.
But funky jamming on a subject so serious? Even NINished to the nails,
it does not sound like it should. I don't hear pain or anguish.

Is Michael singing about his fight, or at least his relationship against opioids?
Is he the liar he's referring to? Where's the real dread of it?
"Hallucination Rain" this clearly ain't.
SO pardon me for mocking the title chosen by Michael Jackson, a Bronx crack junkie of worldwide fame, to repeat the same boring new-funk riff for six minutes.
It's like a robotic "U Got The Look", with curse words spit out by a kid that doesn't grow a beard,
with some fake Wizard of Oz Beatleshit in the middle of it to make some diversion.
It's a good B-Side to "Scream", but it doesn't come near.
Shouting "Morphine", like some hooligans ? What kind of irresponsible adult singing to kids does that?
Is it meant to be provocative? Funny, maybe? Surely he can't be serious.

Drug songs are heavy.
You're not supposed to dance to them.
The only exception maybe being good, very good club house music.

Prince had the good taste not to make "My Little Pill" enjoyable.
They're not supposed to be.

bonatoc said:

Laura, I'm sorry if "just for kicks" seemed harsh,
but to my ears MJ's "Morphine"
is not the Velvet Underground's "Heroin".

I certainly feel empathy and sadness for any pain Michael had to go through.
But funky jamming on a subject so serious? Even NINished to the nails,
it does not sound like it should. I don't hear pain or anguish.

Is Michael singing about his fight, or at least his relationship against opioids?
Is he the liar he's referring to? Where's the real dread of it?
"Hallucination Rain" this clearly ain't.
SO pardon me for mocking the title chosen by Michael Jackson, a Bronx crack junkie of worldwide fame, to repeat the same boring new-funk riff for six minutes.
It's like a robotic "U Got The Look", with curse words spit out by a kid that doesn't grow a beard,
with some fake Wizard of Oz Beatleshit in the middle of it to make some diversion.
It's a good B-Side to "Scream", but it doesn't come near.
Shouting "Morphine", like some hooligans ? What kind of irresponsible adult singing to kids does that?
Is it meant to be provocative? Funny, maybe? Surely he can't be serious.

Drug songs are heavy.
You're not supposed to dance to them.
The only exception maybe being good, very good club house music.

Prince had the good taste not to make "My Little Pill" enjoyable.
They're not supposed to be.

Come on now. MJ was much more off the chain then Prince. Unfortunalty, he spent his whole life in show business and knew little about real life.

Prince had 18 years to be a regular old poor person.

laurarichardson said:

bonatoc said:

Laura, I'm sorry if "just for kicks" seemed harsh,
but to my ears MJ's "Morphine"
is not the Velvet Underground's "Heroin".

I certainly feel empathy and sadness for any pain Michael had to go through.
But funky jamming on a subject so serious? Even NINished to the nails,
it does not sound like it should. I don't hear pain or anguish.

Is Michael singing about his fight, or at least his relationship against opioids?
Is he the liar he's referring to? Where's the real dread of it?
"Hallucination Rain" this clearly ain't.
SO pardon me for mocking the title chosen by Michael Jackson, a Bronx crack junkie of worldwide fame, to repeat the same boring new-funk riff for six minutes.
It's like a robotic "U Got The Look", with curse words spit out by a kid that doesn't grow a beard,
with some fake Wizard of Oz Beatleshit in the middle of it to make some diversion.
It's a good B-Side to "Scream", but it doesn't come near.
Shouting "Morphine", like some hooligans ? What kind of irresponsible adult singing to kids does that?
Is it meant to be provocative? Funny, maybe? Surely he can't be serious.

Drug songs are heavy.
You're not supposed to dance to them.
The only exception maybe being good, very good club house music.

Prince had the good taste not to make "My Little Pill" enjoyable.
They're not supposed to be.

Come on now. MJ was much more off the chain then Prince. Unfortunalty, he spent his whole life in show business and knew little about real life.

Prince had 18 years to be a regular old poor person.

True. That's why I leave Michael in an orbit that is of my young years.
Michael's innocence is Michael's. It's the best thing he had to share.

Michael should not have the right to try serious subjects
unless he eats all his maggot brain and his passed peas first.
And picks up all his Star Wars toys from the floor.

We wil let him mention the KGB once, because he saw "Firefox" on the cable the other night,
he thought "how cool, if I were to be so famous I'll be of national interest".
But it's a soft, longing, Alternate Moscow reverie, "Ronnie Talk 2 Russia" or "America" it ain't.

[Edited 2/12/18 12:54pm]

bonatoc said:

laurarichardson said:

Come on now. MJ was much more off the chain then Prince. Unfortunalty, he spent his whole life in show business and knew little about real life.

Prince had 18 years to be a regular old poor person.

True. That's why I leave Michael in an orbit that is of my young years.
Michael's innocence is Michael's. It's the best thing he had to share.

Michael should not have the right to try serious subjects
unless he eats all his maggot brain and his passed peas first.
And picks up all his Star Wars toys from the floor.

We wil let him mention the KGB once, because he saw "Firefox" on the cable the other night,
he thought "how cool, if I were to be so famous I'll be of national interest".
But it's a soft, longing, Alternate Moscow reverie, "Ronnie Talk 2 Russia" or "America" it ain't.

[Edited 2/12/18 12:54pm]

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