Lovejunky said:

cloveringold85 said:

voph said:

. Nope. Prince was murdered. A medium already said what happened to Prince and said he was not ill, he did not have a hip problem and Prince was not taking the medication found in his system. This medium named some of the players who were involved in setting up Prince’s murder to look like a drug overdose but it wasn’t.

purplefam99 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Yes, and we keep hearing about Rheumatoid Arthritis (inflammation of joints), which is very painful. Also, Fibromyalgia (nerve damage from injury/spinal chord). It is also used to control seizures. It's possible that Prince could have had RA, which would explain why it was difficult for him to play the guitar. Same thing happened with Dolores O'Riordan; she was having trouble playing the guitar because of her back injury.

I fear Dolores will be the same findings.

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God, I'm praying that is not the case, but I fear that it is.

PennyPurple said:

voph said:

. Nope. Prince was murdered. A medium already said what happened to Prince and said he was not ill, he did not have a hip problem and Prince was not taking the medication found in his system. This medium named some of the players who were involved in setting up Prince’s murder to look like a drug overdose but it wasn’t.

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There is this psychic named "Brian Ladd" who said he dreamed that Prince was murdered before he had passed away. When I researched it for myself, what I found was very chilling. I'm not saying I believe in these psychics, but sometimes people do have premonitions.

cloveringold85 said:

PennyPurple said:

rogifan said:

PennyPurple said:

It is not only prescribed to the termanilly ill, it's prescribed for chronic pain also.

But it shouldn’t be.

There are many many people who suffer debilitating pain every minute of every single day and there is nothing else that can help them live life with any kind of quality. It most definitely SHOULD be prescribed for people with chronic pain like that. People shouldn't be doomed to a life of pain and suffering to get this drug crisis in control.

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rogifan said:

Mumio said:

There are many many people who suffer debilitating pain every minute of every single day and there is nothing else that can help them live life with any kind of quality. It most definitely SHOULD be prescribed for people with chronic pain like that. People shouldn't be doomed to a life of pain and suffering to get this drug crisis in control.

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That is exactly what is happening Mumio. The people who really need it, can barely get it.

Now we have the pharmacies telling us that they aren't going to give out the amount the Drs. wrote the script for. My husband takes a sleeping pill every night. CVS has decided that he doesn't need a sleeping pill every night, they will only give him 15 a month. The Dr has called them, written letters to no avail. And the kicker is, our insurance prescription plan is CVS/Caremark. Even if we tell them, to NOT file with the insurance on the sleeping pill, that we will pay cash, they say they still will not give him more than 15 a month. My hubby is in so much pain that he wakes up screaming WITH the sleeping pill. I'm at a loss on what to do. I'm just going to start taking the prescription to Walmart and pay cash and not file insurance, I guess.

CVS/Caremark is in the works to buy Aetna Insurance Company. It's going to be 1 big cluster, for anybody in pain to get anything stronger then Tylenol.

purplefam99 said:

rogifan said:

When was Prince having trouble playing the guitar? Doesn’t seem to be having any trouble here (March 2016): https://www.facebook.com/...tion=group

I wonder what Tom Petty looked like walking about on stage with a fractured hip? It seems as those these meds are really powerful and your able to function as if Your body is healthy. I would think a man with a fractured hip that it would be noticeable even if they were on meds, but it is looking like that is not the case If these men were in front of people days prior to dying and no one could look at them and say oh look his hips are killing him how does he get around. Prince is On his bike for instance, this must be some powerful meds.

Very powerful. The Dr told hubby and I (years ago) that it was a wonder drug (oxy) and it was....until it didn't work anymore. What big pharma failed to say, was how hard it was to get off of it, and how fast addiction took place.

PennyPurple said:

purplefam99 said:

PennyPurple said:

Very powerful. The Dr told hubby and I (years ago) that it was a wonder drug (oxy) and it was....until it didn't work anymore. What big pharma failed to say, was how hard it was to get off of it, and how fast addiction took place.

So we are talking complete absence of pain?? A person presents with a fracture Takes meds, then presents as though they are well without limp or previous crippling effects?? I apologize for my difficulty in visualizing the after effects I just can’t imagine something being so effective and the person be awake.

It reduced hubbys pain by at least 80% to where it was bearable. Hubby tried the fentanyl patches, but they made him too loopy to do even the simplist things, so he had to go off of the patches.

PennyPurple said:

purplefam99 said:

rogifan said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Yes, and we keep hearing about Rheumatoid Arthritis (inflammation of joints), which is very painful. Also, Fibromyalgia (nerve damage from injury/spinal chord). It is also used to control seizures. It's possible that Prince could have had RA, which would explain why it was difficult for him to play the guitar. Same thing happened with Dolores O'Riordan; she was having trouble playing the guitar because of her back injury.

When was Prince having trouble playing the guitar? Doesn’t seem to be having any trouble here (March 2016): https://www.facebook.com/...tion=group

Yeah, such a conclusion is only based on his throwaway comment from the last dance party at Paisley Park when he said "I have to leave it in the case or I’ll be tempted to play it...I can’t play the guitar at all these days so I can keep my mind on this [the solo piano] and get better". It is a somewhat ambiguous statement, but I've always taken to refer to him being a bit out of practise, not a case of being physically unable to play the guitar.

Mumio said:

jjam said:

PennyPurple said:

laurarichardson said:

muleFunk said:

The question that I have about this story is the Sheriff took two years to gather information that he is now taking to the DA???

The D.A. doesn't have to wait for the Sheriff or any law enforcement official to gather evidence. The D.A. can conviene a Grand Jury and bring in Kirk or whoever to testify and then bring charges.

That should have been done April 28, 2016.

Do you think they held off because the DEA became involved?

That should have sped up the process and if DEA found anything the Carver County Sheriff wouldn't be sending it to Carver County DA it would be going to the US District Attorney.

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rogifan said:

PennyPurple said:

That is exactly what is happening Mumio. The people who really need it, can barely get it.

Now we have the pharmacies telling us that they aren't going to give out the amount the Drs. wrote the script for. My husband takes a sleeping pill every night. CVS has decided that he doesn't need a sleeping pill every night, they will only give him 15 a month. The Dr has called them, written letters to no avail. And the kicker is, our insurance prescription plan is CVS/Caremark. Even if we tell them, to NOT file with the insurance on the sleeping pill, that we will pay cash, they say they still will not give him more than 15 a month. My hubby is in so much pain that he wakes up screaming WITH the sleeping pill. I'm at a loss on what to do. I'm just going to start taking the prescription to Walmart and pay cash and not file insurance, I guess.

CVS/Caremark is in the works to buy Aetna Insurance Company. It's going to be 1 big cluster, for anybody in pain to get anything stronger then Tylenol.

I can’t imagine what your husband is going through. Is this something he has to live with the rest of his life? Or is there a medical procedure/surgery that might help alleviate the pain? I hope one day there are alternative therapies that don’t involve drugs that can be highly addictive and have terrible side effects.

He has to live with it, there is no cure. He has Arnold Chiari Malformation and Syringomyelia. He's had numerous surgerys, the last one we had to seek a specialist care in NY. That surgery, Thankfully has stopped the progression, but left him with a steel plate in the back of his head.

Well of course now the real question now is: Who Murdered Tom Petty and are the two deaths connected? I mean, they were on stage together at arguably the greatest R&RHoF ceremony/performance in its history. Concidence?

I'm kidding of course. Yes, it's a coincidence but I bet some people here think it's connected. All it means is that rich rock stars have an easier time procuring drugs.

Odd that Petty's death is met with a shrug and a hand wave: "Yep, he sure did die of an accidental overdose" while Prince's death still has a few stubborn die hards claiming "we'll never get to the bottom of it! It's so COMPLICATED!" and determinabely maintaining a conspiracy or cover up, for reasons I still cannot ascertain. Or entertain, for that matter.

Maybe the same people offed the Cranberry's singer. We're through the looking glass here, people, LOL.

Sounds to like it's as simple as the investigators not being able to definitively determine or state who procured the illegal pills, and I'm quite certain that's what took so long. It wasn't for lack of looking and, while most of us have a good idea who it was, proving it is another matter.

herb4 said:

Well of course now the real question now is: Who Murdered Tom Petty and are the two deaths connected? I mean, they were on stage together at arguably the greatest R&RHoF ceremony/performance in its history. Concidence?

I'm kidding of course. Yes, it's a coincidence but I bet some people here think it's connected. All it means is that rich rock stars have an easier time procuring drugs.

Odd that Petty's death is met with a shrug and a hand wave: "Yep, he sure did die of an accidental overdose" while Prince's death still has a few stubborn die hards claiming "we'll never get to the bottom of it! It's so COMPLICATED!" and determinabely maintaining a conspiracy or cover up, for reasons I still cannot ascertain. Or entertain, for that matter.

Maybe the same people offed the Cranberry's singer. We're through the looking glass here, people, LOL.

Sounds to like it's as simple as the investigators not being able to definitively determine or state who procured the illegal pills, and I'm quite certain that's what took so long. It wasn't for lack of looking and, while most of us have a good idea who it was, proving it is another matter.

Great Post!

herb4 said:

Well of course now the real question now is: Who Murdered Tom Petty and are the two deaths connected? I mean, they were on stage together at arguably the greatest R&RHoF ceremony/performance in its history. Concidence?

I'm kidding of course. Yes, it's a coincidence but I bet some people here think it's connected. All it means is that rich rock stars have an easier time procuring drugs.

Odd that Petty's death is met with a shrug and a hand wave: "Yep, he sure did die of an accidental overdose" while Prince's death still has a few stubborn die hards claiming "we'll never get to the bottom of it! It's so COMPLICATED!" and determinabely maintaining a conspiracy or cover up, for reasons I still cannot ascertain. Or entertain, for that matter.

Maybe the same people offed the Cranberry's singer. We're through the looking glass here, people, LOL.

Sounds to like it's as simple as the investigators not being able to definitively determine or state who procured the illegal pills, and I'm quite certain that's what took so long. It wasn't for lack of looking and, while most of us have a good idea who it was, proving it is another matter.

P's death is cloaked in mystery. If the Nelson's would've come out and released a statement and the results of the autopsy, there wouldn't be all this speculation and murder theory's.

Seems to me that Petty and Prince both had the same problem with their hips and knees.

One glaring difference is it looks like Petty got his pills legally, while it looks like Prince did not.

There's definitely some facts about Prince that aren't known, but as far as the autopsy, the results were released, in the summary report (accidental OD, self-administered, no other contributuing causes). I think for people who haven't accepted this conclusion, I don't know that more information would quell their speculation and conspiracy theories.

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I think one thing is that's different perhaps between Petty and Prince is, frankly, that Prince's didn't have a fully functional family surrounding him in the way that Petty seems to have had. Prince's heirs didn't really have close, intimate relationships with him, and they're not exactly united at this point. That's just an unfortunate reality.

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PennyPurple said:

herb4 said:

Well of course now the real question now is: Who Murdered Tom Petty and are the two deaths connected? I mean, they were on stage together at arguably the greatest R&RHoF ceremony/performance in its history. Concidence?

I'm kidding of course. Yes, it's a coincidence but I bet some people here think it's connected. All it means is that rich rock stars have an easier time procuring drugs.

Odd that Petty's death is met with a shrug and a hand wave: "Yep, he sure did die of an accidental overdose" while Prince's death still has a few stubborn die hards claiming "we'll never get to the bottom of it! It's so COMPLICATED!" and determinabely maintaining a conspiracy or cover up, for reasons I still cannot ascertain. Or entertain, for that matter.

Maybe the same people offed the Cranberry's singer. We're through the looking glass here, people, LOL.

Sounds to like it's as simple as the investigators not being able to definitively determine or state who procured the illegal pills, and I'm quite certain that's what took so long. It wasn't for lack of looking and, while most of us have a good idea who it was, proving it is another matter.

P's death is cloaked in mystery. If the Nelson's would've come out and released a statement and the results of the autopsy, there wouldn't be all this speculation and murder theory's.

Seems to me that Petty and Prince both had the same problem with their hips and knees.

One glaring difference is it looks like Petty got his pills legally, while it looks like Prince did not.

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PennyPurple said:

herb4 said:

Well of course now the real question now is: Who Murdered Tom Petty and are the two deaths connected? I mean, they were on stage together at arguably the greatest R&RHoF ceremony/performance in its history. Concidence?

I'm kidding of course. Yes, it's a coincidence but I bet some people here think it's connected. All it means is that rich rock stars have an easier time procuring drugs.

Odd that Petty's death is met with a shrug and a hand wave: "Yep, he sure did die of an accidental overdose" while Prince's death still has a few stubborn die hards claiming "we'll never get to the bottom of it! It's so COMPLICATED!" and determinabely maintaining a conspiracy or cover up, for reasons I still cannot ascertain. Or entertain, for that matter.

Maybe the same people offed the Cranberry's singer. We're through the looking glass here, people, LOL.

Sounds to like it's as simple as the investigators not being able to definitively determine or state who procured the illegal pills, and I'm quite certain that's what took so long. It wasn't for lack of looking and, while most of us have a good idea who it was, proving it is another matter.

P's death is cloaked in mystery. If the Nelson's would've come out and released a statement and the results of the autopsy, there wouldn't be all this speculation and murder theory's.

Seems to me that Petty and Prince both had the same problem with their hips and knees.

One glaring difference is it looks like Petty got his pills legally, while it looks like Prince did not.

It's only a mystery for people looking to find one, IMO. I dont see any big mystery. Even with "who got him the pills" and certainly not one that suggests premeditated murder or whatever the fuck a few people here are on about and stubbornly cling to simply because they don't get autopsy reports emailed to them or certified mail delivered to their front door. It's all right there for anyone looking at it wth clear eyes.

Petty legally obtain fentanyl? Huh. It appears you're right. Patches. Still, that's quite the cocktail he had there when he died and speaks to my point that rich rock stars can generally get their hands on drugs when they need to. The other glaring difference is that Petty publicly battled addiction and substance abuse problems throughout his life while I have little reason to believe that Prince had the disease of addiction as wide ranging as Petty's was.

Is Petty's death "cloaked in mystery" too?

rogifan said:

PennyPurple said:

It is not only prescribed to the termanilly ill, it's prescribed for chronic pain also.

But it shouldn’t be.

Tell that to the stage 3 cancer victim with 6 months to live or teh vet who got his legs blown off by an IED. Get back to me when it's you.

herb4 said:

rogifan said:

PennyPurple said: But it shouldn’t be.

Tell that to the stage 3 cancer victim with 6 months to live or teh vet who got his legs blown off by an IED. Get back to me when it's you.

co-sign...and good to see you herb4/xoxo

Predict doc will be jailed.

I am willing to bet that Prince's full autopsy/toxicity report(not the rumored version) would reveal more than one type of drug(fetanyl) in his system. It is common.

1.What Prince may have been dying from (according to Tyka's ramblings) and how he died, are two very different things.

2.It sounds to me that she was already aware that he was self-medicating for years. How did she expect him to die? If she knew he was dying and expected death shortly, she would be acutely aware that he was not dictating anything to her from an end of life facility, hospital,etc. It was from right in his home, and directly from the person she was working with and for, for those past 4 years . Did she expect him to wither away like a rotting corpse because of pain from organ failure for as long as he could bare it?

3.If she knew he was terminal and was (dying), yet he didn't die of whatever he was ailing from, why wasn't she surprised when she got the call that he died? What was she expecting him to die of then?

4. If Prince did not intend to die in the manner that he did, how else would he have died? There is no other peaceful way to die if you are terminal and not under a doctor's care.

4. Kirk, nor anyone else will be charged with Prince's death. If the laws were written as though someone could be charged with a crime for their own death, Prince would be charged.

5. With the amount of pills found (coupled with the purported levels of toxicity expressed and his BMI), the transition from overdose to death was within 1-4 minutes at best. Prince died a much more peaceful death than that of person going thru end stage pain from a terminal illness that eventually leads to death.

6.The elevator is the dead give away as it relates to time and location.