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Thread started 01/17/18 6:03am

lonelyalien

Is dirty mind the closest prince came to punk

I've always thought it was prince's most punk rock album short fast songs the we dont care look also the time period it was released in I think it was definitely giving a nod to the punk movement.

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Reply #1 posted 01/17/18 6:16am

thebanishedone

actuall Dirty Mind is a nod to new wave. closest he got to punk are all live versions of Annie Christian,Bambi live first avenue 1982 and When Doves Scream

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Reply #2 posted 01/17/18 6:29am

gandorb

I think that the Controversy album is more new wave than Dirty Mind, and it had a punk feel to it in concert.
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Reply #3 posted 01/17/18 7:48am

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gandorb said:

I think that the Controversy album is more new wave than Dirty Mind, and it had a punk feel to it in concert.



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Reply #4 posted 01/17/18 7:53am

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I would say so. Yes
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Reply #5 posted 01/17/18 7:54am

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"Annie Christian" from 1981-82, the First Avenue '82 version of "Bambi," and the thrashy "Sister" from the Lovesexy tour come closest.

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Reply #6 posted 01/17/18 7:58am

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No. The unreleased version of Tick Tick Bang is the closest.

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Reply #7 posted 01/17/18 8:20am

PeteSilas

lonelyalien said:

I've always thought it was prince's most punk rock album short fast songs the we dont care look also the time period it was released in I think it was definitely giving a nod to the punk movement.

i always thought the punk movement heavily influenced the album, the look and even some of the dancing, that wasn't nothing like the dancing he was doing 3 years later, that was what we in the hood would laugh at.

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Reply #8 posted 01/17/18 8:41am

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Yeah probably.




Otherwise, define punk:

Sex Pistols and Mclaren?
Clash and Rhodes?


New York Punk street punk?
New York arty punk?

Punk as back to basics rock and roll?
Punk as an attitude and philosophy?

Punk that never moves beyond sounding like 1977?
Punk that rejects even the idea of using guitars and song structures?

Hippie Crass-style commune living punk?

Music for and by people under 21 years old only?

Green Day California punk? Before or after they signed to a major?

on that, does signing to a major mean you're a sellout or does it show that you don't have the privilege of being able to turn down cash?

Blink 1982 college kids punk?

and so on.



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Reply #9 posted 01/17/18 8:46am

PeteSilas

that's a good point, a lot of people have stated early elvis was "punk".

jaawwnn said:

Yeah probably.




Otherwise, define punk:

Sex Pistols and Mclaren?
Clash and Rhodes?


New York Punk street punk?
New York arty punk?

Punk as back to basics rock and roll?
Punk as an attitude and philosophy?

Punk that never moves beyond sounding like 1977?
Punk that rejects even the idea of using guitars and song structures?

Hippie Crass-style commune living punk?

Music for and by people under 21 years old only?

Green Day California punk? Before or after they signed to a major?

on that, does signing to a major mean you're a sellout or does it show that you don't have the privilege of being able to turn down cash?

Blink 1982 college kids punk?

and so on.



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Reply #10 posted 01/17/18 8:48am

PeteSilas

another interesting thing, the guy, forget his name, the writer/producer of minneapolis produced "funkytown" said that "dirty mind was the funkiest album to ever come out of Minneapolis". I thought Prince's Time Productions were "funkier".

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Reply #11 posted 01/17/18 10:10am

herb4

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Any time Prince did "punk" he put his own stamp on it or blended another style into it.

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Reply #12 posted 01/17/18 1:31pm

BEAUGARDE

The Vanity 6 album had punk/new wave thing going on

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Reply #13 posted 01/17/18 1:35pm

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punk's not a genre, it's a movement, a lifestyle, a diy aesthetic. it includes a lot of stuff...

prince was 100% punk, 100% of the time.

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Reply #14 posted 01/17/18 3:25pm

purplefam99

peedub said:

punk's not a genre, it's a movement, a lifestyle, a diy aesthetic. it includes a lot of stuff...

prince was 100% punk, 100% of the time.



Agree.
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Reply #15 posted 01/17/18 4:48pm

luvsexy4all

these threads r streaching.....

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Reply #16 posted 01/17/18 5:51pm

lemoncrush19

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what is it about labels that makes people want to stick em on anything ... even on the work of someone who famously hated any kind of categorizing and won't fit into any ... hmm I wonder ...

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Reply #17 posted 01/17/18 5:54pm

jdcxc

peedub said:

punk's not a genre, it's a movement, a lifestyle, a diy aesthetic. it includes a lot of stuff...

prince was 100% punk, 100% of the time.



Excellent point.
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Reply #18 posted 01/18/18 6:14am

novabrkr

"I Like It There", perhaps.

Prince's punky, new-wave / funk hybrid stuff was cool, but let's face it, most people associate punk with more straightforward guitar stuff.

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Reply #19 posted 01/18/18 6:34am

scratchtasia

I thought the performance of "Partyup" on SNL was pretty punk in its own way.

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Reply #20 posted 01/18/18 12:24pm

InwardJim

A mix of Post-Punk and New Wave through a funk lens.

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Reply #21 posted 01/18/18 1:39pm

PeteSilas

lemoncrush19 said:

what is it about labels that makes people want to stick em on anything ... even on the work of someone who famously hated any kind of categorizing and won't fit into any ... hmm I wonder ...

you're right but at the dirty mind through, maybe the purple rain parts of his career, he had the punk sensibility of anti-establishment and non conformity and he did wear the rude boy pin on the cover of dirty mind. He wasn't a pure anything but he was certainly paying attention to punk.

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Reply #22 posted 01/18/18 2:43pm

leadline

Compassion is pretty close.

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