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Reply #510 posted 12/09/17 5:59pm

airth

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Blast From The Past 6.0 is now circulating. Can we get the thread back up now, please?

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Reply #511 posted 12/09/17 6:50pm

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EddieC said:

rdhull said:

Hey, where and who was the person who doubted 17 Days extended existed? And why couldn't WB have put this on the PR Deluxe?

I was one of them!--

lol

"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #512 posted 12/10/17 12:18am

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IstenSzek said:

djdaffy1227 said:

Blast From the Past 6.0 has even more songs on it but the post I made yesterday was taken down. Not 100% sure why but I don't argue over that stuff. This is an excellent start for the songs that will be on 6.0


BFTP6 hasn't been released yet. so we're not allowed to discuss it.

this release ('closer 2 god: outtakes 1980-2015') seems to be a 'reaction package'
assemled and released overnight to undercut the BFTP6 guy from making money
off those outtakes.

so it remains to be seen if this is the best soundquality for all these tracks or if the
watermarks (like at the end of 17 Days) are the same as the BFTP6 one will be.

remember, "emotional pump" and "101" were pre-released in much the same way
but were mono versions, where the eventual BFTP4&5 release had the stereo ones.

so i'm also still keeping my fingers crossed that BFTP6 will have the full Cosmic Day
and Big House, although chances seem slim.

but there might still be some differences in quality (and obviously content) between
these two releases.





The end of 17 Days sounds natural to me, but I've never heard the long version before this leak. I'd like to know how it's been watermarked, can you explain?

Keep your headphones on.
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Reply #513 posted 12/10/17 2:20am

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leadline said:

sulls said:

So, has your copy been delivered?


No copy, just the same files that were dumped online recently that everyone is talking about here. I am assuming what was dumped online was a rip from the CD no?

[Edited 12/8/17 22:45pm]

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I really don't understand why it is so hard to comprehend that these leaks are leaks by an elite collector trying to screw with Eye, and not rips from Eye's release. Clue: not all of the tracks are there.

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Reply #514 posted 12/10/17 4:46am

dave1dmarx

I can't get over what a GREAT song "What If" is. This SOUNDS like it could be a big hit today. Why did he not release this song?

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Reply #515 posted 12/10/17 5:10am

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dave1dmarx said:

I can't get over what a GREAT song "What If" is. This SOUNDS like it could be a big hit today. Why did he not release this song?

The first version (no strings) was released, just not to the general public: http://princevault.com/in...le=What_If

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Who knows what he was going to do with this particular, unreleased version from 2015, though.

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Also, it's a cover.

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Reply #516 posted 12/10/17 6:49am

dave1dmarx

olb99 said:

dave1dmarx said:

I can't get over what a GREAT song "What If" is. This SOUNDS like it could be a big hit today. Why did he not release this song?

The first version (no strings) was released, just not to the general public: http://princevault.com/in...le=What_If

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Who knows what he was going to do with this particular, unreleased version from 2015, though.

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Also, it's a cover.

Noted. So was One Of Us, which IMHO is another song that Prince made his own.

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Reply #517 posted 12/10/17 8:26am

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BartVanHemelen said:

leadline said:


No copy, just the same files that were dumped online recently that everyone is talking about here. I am assuming what was dumped online was a rip from the CD no?

[Edited 12/8/17 22:45pm]

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I really don't understand why it is so hard to comprehend that these leaks are leaks by an elite collector trying to screw with Eye, and not rips from Eye's release. Clue: not all of the tracks are there.


Well, then whoever these elites are, they are lazy. Thanks for chimin' in!

[Edited 12/10/17 8:26am]

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Reply #518 posted 12/10/17 11:44am

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smokeverbs said:

IstenSzek said:


BFTP6 hasn't been released yet. so we're not allowed to discuss it.

this release ('closer 2 god: outtakes 1980-2015') seems to be a 'reaction package'
assemled and released overnight to undercut the BFTP6 guy from making money
off those outtakes.

so it remains to be seen if this is the best soundquality for all these tracks or if the
watermarks (like at the end of 17 Days) are the same as the BFTP6 one will be.

remember, "emotional pump" and "101" were pre-released in much the same way
but were mono versions, where the eventual BFTP4&5 release had the stereo ones.

so i'm also still keeping my fingers crossed that BFTP6 will have the full Cosmic Day
and Big House, although chances seem slim.

but there might still be some differences in quality (and obviously content) between
these two releases.





The end of 17 Days sounds natural to me, but I've never heard the long version before this leak. I'd like to know how it's been watermarked, can you explain?


yeah i might have been mistaken about that, i'm not sure anymore. it's the dogwhistle
at 6:53 and 7:03. could be a watermark, could be in the original track.

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #519 posted 12/10/17 2:57pm

dance4me3121

dave1dmarx said:

I can't get over what a GREAT song "What If" is. This SOUNDS like it could be a big hit today. Why did he not release this song?


The original version that Prince did sounds a lot better to me.the new version on this set doesn't sound right
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Reply #520 posted 12/10/17 3:38pm

Chastity

IstenSzek said:


yeah i might have been mistaken about that, i'm not sure anymore. it's the dogwhistle
at 6:53 and 7:03. could be a watermark, could be in the original track.

That's not the way to do a watermark (unless you're stupid and want everybody to know).

The way the Elite traders used to do it when trading and wanting to track where it was and who did it if ever leaked was to invert the channels a few seconds somewhere. And keep a log of it. You would NEVER be able to hear it or find it yourself unless you knew exactly where it was. Been there, done that.

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Reply #521 posted 12/10/17 4:01pm

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Chastity said:

IstenSzek said:


yeah i might have been mistaken about that, i'm not sure anymore. it's the dogwhistle
at 6:53 and 7:03. could be a watermark, could be in the original track.

That's not the way to do a watermark (unless you're stupid and want everybody to know).

The way the Elite traders used to do it when trading and wanting to track where it was and who did it if ever leaked was to invert the channels a few seconds somewhere. And keep a log of it. You would NEVER be able to hear it or find it yourself unless you knew exactly where it was. Been there, done that.


ah! thanks for the info, i had no idea. learned something new smile thumbs up!


and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #522 posted 12/10/17 10:26pm

DirtyCache

Chastity said:

IstenSzek said:


yeah i might have been mistaken about that, i'm not sure anymore. it's the dogwhistle
at 6:53 and 7:03. could be a watermark, could be in the original track.

That's not the way to do a watermark (unless you're stupid and want everybody to know).

The way the Elite traders used to do it when trading and wanting to track where it was and who did it if ever leaked was to invert the channels a few seconds somewhere. And keep a log of it. You would NEVER be able to hear it or find it yourself unless you knew exactly where it was. Been there, done that.

Well....as a self admitted idiot err What may I ask, is a "Watermark" ?

I have read that term quite a few times here and I cannot figure out dunce what it is, implies or refers to, nor find it via Google.

Taking a stab at it's meaning, does this imply a way of marking a recording to keep track of who had it and or when, maybe?

Kinda like how those DVD or BluRay's like the "For Your Consideration" and the actual films are given to those in the 'Industry' to watch at home. Yet they are marked with a code so the studio can eep track and knows IF the film is leaked before it is released, they can figure out (or tey to at least) who's copy was used for the leak?

If you don't want to take the time or it will take to long to explain, is there a link of some sort where I can learn please?

Also, what is a "Elite Trader" ?

I Thank You in advance for your time and help,

DC

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Reply #523 posted 12/11/17 12:59am

Pjwest

Reading through the BFTP 6 thread it sounds like Closer To God has much better sound quality.

Does everyone agree with this?

How about Cool Love specifically as an earlier post claims the 'monofied' version is the best so far?

I'm trying to consensus about what to track down/keep/throw away.......

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Reply #524 posted 12/11/17 1:08am

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DirtyCache said:

Chastity said:

That's not the way to do a watermark (unless you're stupid and want everybody to know).

The way the Elite traders used to do it when trading and wanting to track where it was and who did it if ever leaked was to invert the channels a few seconds somewhere. And keep a log of it. You would NEVER be able to hear it or find it yourself unless you knew exactly where it was. Been there, done that.

Well....as a self admitted idiot err What may I ask, is a "Watermark" ?

I have read that term quite a few times here and I cannot figure out dunce what it is, implies or refers to, nor find it via Google.

Taking a stab at it's meaning, does this imply a way of marking a recording to keep track of who had it and or when, maybe?

Kinda like how those DVD or BluRay's like the "For Your Consideration" and the actual films are given to those in the 'Industry' to watch at home. Yet they are marked with a code so the studio can eep track and knows IF the film is leaked before it is released, they can figure out (or tey to at least) who's copy was used for the leak?

If you don't want to take the time or it will take to long to explain, is there a link of some sort where I can learn please?

Also, what is a "Elite Trader" ?

I Thank You in advance for your time and help,

DC

I can't believe that watermark didn't show up in a google search. The top result is a link to the wikipedia article telling you exactly what a watermark is. Then within that there's a link to https://en.wikipedia.org/...termarking

RIP sad
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Reply #525 posted 12/11/17 3:29am

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TheEnglishGent said:

DirtyCache said:

Well....as a self admitted idiot err What may I ask, is a "Watermark" ?

I have read that term quite a few times here and I cannot figure out dunce what it is, implies or refers to, nor find it via Google.

Taking a stab at it's meaning, does this imply a way of marking a recording to keep track of who had it and or when, maybe?

Kinda like how those DVD or BluRay's like the "For Your Consideration" and the actual films are given to those in the 'Industry' to watch at home. Yet they are marked with a code so the studio can eep track and knows IF the film is leaked before it is released, they can figure out (or tey to at least) who's copy was used for the leak?

If you don't want to take the time or it will take to long to explain, is there a link of some sort where I can learn please?

Also, what is a "Elite Trader" ?

I Thank You in advance for your time and help,

DC

I can't believe that watermark didn't show up in a google search. The top result is a link to the wikipedia article telling you exactly what a watermark is. Then within that there's a link to https://en.wikipedia.org/...termarking

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It's almost 2018 and people are still using the pathetic "Google didn't return anything" BS.

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Reply #526 posted 12/11/17 6:11am

udo

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BartVanHemelen said:

It's almost 2018 and people are still using the pathetic "Google didn't return anything" BS.

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That's what you get in a zero-cash society.

More Swedes are on this forum than we would have guessed.

They never see the fiat cash paper, so a watermark is kinda 'new' to them.

Ever signed a fancy contract?

Thought so.

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Even a simple 'glitch' can be a 'watermark' on a recording.

It can show up as a tape imperfection, a drop out, a temporary change in EQ, a speed issue, etc.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #527 posted 12/11/17 6:31am

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udo said:

BartVanHemelen said:

It's almost 2018 and people are still using the pathetic "Google didn't return anything" BS.

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[...]

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Even a simple 'glitch' can be a 'watermark' on a recording.

It can show up as a tape imperfection, a drop out, a temporary change in EQ, a speed issue, etc.

Sort of like Warner watermarked Computer Blue (Hallway version) on the PR Deluxe set then.

Hey loudmouth, shut the fuck up, right?
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Reply #528 posted 12/11/17 6:32am

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I've been listening to "The Screams of Passion" about a million times in the last couple of days. Never listened to The Family much so that's basically like a new old Prince song for me. biggrin

Hey loudmouth, shut the fuck up, right?
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Reply #529 posted 12/12/17 4:53am

DirtyCache

TheEnglishGent said:

DirtyCache said:

Well....as a self admitted idiot err What may I ask, is a "Watermark" ?

I have read that term quite a few times here and I cannot figure out dunce what it is, implies or refers to, nor find it via Google.

Taking a stab at it's meaning, does this imply a way of marking a recording to keep track of who had it and or when, maybe?

Kinda like how those DVD or BluRay's like the "For Your Consideration" and the actual films are given to those in the 'Industry' to watch at home. Yet they are marked with a code so the studio can eep track and knows IF the film is leaked before it is released, they can figure out (or tey to at least) who's copy was used for the leak?

If you don't want to take the time or it will take to long to explain, is there a link of some sort where I can learn please?

Also, what is a "Elite Trader" ?

I Thank You in advance for your time and help,

DC

I can't believe that watermark didn't show up in a google search. The top result is a link to the wikipedia article telling you exactly what a watermark is. Then within that there's a link to https://en.wikipedia.org/...termarking

Thank You Kind Sir!!

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Reply #530 posted 12/12/17 8:41am

Silvertongue7

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I've been listening to "The Screams of Passion" about a million times in the last couple of days. Never listened to The Family much so that's basically like a new old Prince song for me. biggrin


The Family is an album that I always liked... in theory. I could tell that the songs were fantastic, but didn’t like Paul’s voice at all, and was not always keen on the arrangements of some songs. So getting all the tracks with Prince’s vocals and different arrangements has been a fantastic treat. Right now I can’t stop listening to it!
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Reply #531 posted 12/12/17 10:57am

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Phishanga said:

I've been listening to "The Screams of Passion" about a million times in the last couple of days. Never listened to The Family much so that's basically like a new old Prince song for me. biggrin


Prince's demo is a revelation - but I miss Clare Fischer's strings.


Edit: On the other hand, I'm very glad he left the strings off New Position.

[Edited 12/12/17 11:13am]

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Reply #532 posted 12/12/17 4:44pm

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Genesia said:

Phishanga said:

I've been listening to "The Screams of Passion" about a million times in the last couple of days. Never listened to The Family much so that's basically like a new old Prince song for me. biggrin


Prince's demo is a revelation - but I miss Clare Fischer's strings.


Edit: On the other hand, I'm very glad he left the strings off New Position.

[Edited 12/12/17 11:13am]

I agree on New Position. I downloaded this just for it, ...and...I love Clare. but it's just not very good and doesn't fit at all. I don't think Prince needed to think twice on whether to use it or not.

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Reply #533 posted 12/18/17 9:06am

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bumpit All dis fonk music

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Reply #534 posted 12/27/17 9:45pm

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airth said:

antonb said:

love2thenines2003 said: What was that again? Apparently it is different! Thank you very much.


It's just the bootleg version that leaked prior to the official one, nothing new.

Yeah, the original leak of Roadhouse Garden featured only Prince on vocals and was in evil mono. Then came the official release featuring Wendy & Lisa in glorious stereo. Am still waiting for a stereo version of the Prince solo version. mad

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Reply #535 posted 12/28/17 2:08am

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Prince's demos for the Family album are amazing. Now I love the original album with Paul and Susannah's vocals - they are great and beautifully produced. I also dig Clalre's amazing stings and the no bass in some tunes. Love it!. But honestly to hear Prince's demos of these tracks is a revelation. After reading about the period in Purple Rain Studio Era I realised what a a crazy brilliant time for Prince it was and how pure these tunes were. His demos sound like a Prince solo album between Purple Rain and ATWIAD - just with sax (Eric) instead of lead guitar. It's absolutley brilliant and his version of "Nothing Compares 2 U" sounds like a smash in the 1985 anthemic afterglow of Purple Rain. While I wouldn't trade the original this is hot and why I love being a Prince fan.

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Reply #536 posted 12/28/17 2:47am

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Sydney said:

Prince's demos for the Family album are amazing. Now I love the original album with Paul and Susannah's vocals - they are great and beautifully produced. I also dig Clalre's amazing stings and the no bass in some tunes. Love it!. But honestly to hear Prince's demos of these tracks is a revelation. After reading about the period in Purple Rain Studio Era I realised what a a crazy brilliant time for Prince it was and how pure these tunes were. His demos sound like a Prince solo album between Purple Rain and ATWIAD - just with sax (Eric) instead of lead guitar. It's absolutley brilliant and his version of "Nothing Compares 2 U" sounds like a smash in the 1985 anthemic afterglow of Purple Rain. While I wouldn't trade the original this is hot and why I love being a Prince fan.

Yes... but "High Fashion" needs that bass!

Hey loudmouth, shut the fuck up, right?
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Reply #537 posted 12/28/17 3:35am

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Reply #538 posted 12/29/17 8:45am

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Love89 is the mack.

This may be the first time he says New Power Generation??

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #539 posted 12/29/17 8:51am

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2freaky4church1 said:

Love89 is the mack.

This may be the first time he says New Power Generation??

Welcome 2 the New Power Generation. The reason y my voice... Hundalasiah!

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