ThatWhiteDude said:

lust said:

Why do you want to watch it with a German Dub?

Cause I am german

lust said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

Cause I am german

I realised that but unless you’ve found some flawless translate tool, your English seems great.

I’d go subtitles over a dub to be honest. You’ll lose a lot of the charm if Jerome and Prince are dubbed.

Plus, when Prince is on the piano singing, don’t you wanna him sing “Girls and Boys” as opposed to a poor German imitator saying “Kinder”. That was a joke before anyone starts. I know they don’t dub those bits.

Also. I was joking before. Most fans love this film. It’s the critics who took issue with it. It’s a nailed on must see. In English with subs’

ThatWhiteDude said:

paulludvig said:

Why on earth would you want to watch a dubbed version?

I am german, I am not that good at english that I could watch it in english

I don't know for sure, as I only speak English, but, I suspect that much of the humor in both UTCM & GB may not translate so well to German or other languages. Here's hoping I'm wrong.

ThatWhiteDude said:

lust said:

I realised that but unless you’ve found some flawless translate tool, your English seems great.

I’d go subtitles over a dub to be honest. You’ll lose a lot of the charm if Jerome and Prince are dubbed.

Plus, when Prince is on the piano singing, don’t you wanna him sing “Girls and Boys” as opposed to a poor German imitator saying “Kinder”. That was a joke before anyone starts. I know they don’t dub those bits.

Also. I was joking before. Most fans love this film. It’s the critics who took issue with it. It’s a nailed on must see. In English with subs’

Well, then I watch with subs thanks for the advice

lust said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

Well, then I watch with subs thanks for the advice

Bitte.

Grown Folks Music did an excellent podcast on Parade & Under The Cherry Moon. I just listened to it the other day. Highly recommended!!

https://grownfolksmusic.c...erry-moon/

ThatWhiteDude said:

Okay, I finally decided to get the Blue-Ray Collection. I've only seen PR so far and I heard that Graffiti Bridge was not a great movie, so I plan to never watch it, tho it's in it. BUT, UTCM is also part of the collection and now the thing with that movie is, that some people really like it and some people really don't.

I already ordered it, it's coming next week and now my question is, would you recommend watching the movie? Or not?

the movie was panned, universlally in 86, honestly, only prince fans would like it. It wasn't all bad, i thought, honestly thought he showed a lot of potential as a filmaker, too bad he just didn't know how to adapt or listen to other people.

at any rate, like a lot of people have said, it wasn't that bad.

Darshy said:

And because it wasn't a smash like PR, there were just too many people wanting to write it off, and write off Prince too. Prince as this narcissistic, sex-crazed individual was solidified. But to me it's very simple; if you don't dig this movie, then you're not getting the essence of what it was about Prince.

i always read it as Prince seeing morris' success with his character in Purple rain, stealing the sidekick and trying it himself, it didn't really work, mainly because i think we'd already accepted him as the loner, mysterious, wierdo, genius, deviant and weren't ready for someone who was that normal. That his narcissism and big head (sorry prince) had manifested itself many times by that point, it was actually cringe inducing and embarrassing as a fan.

ThatWhiteDude said:

kingricefan said:

Why did you order the three disc set if you didn't want to watch Graffiti Bridge and aren't sure about watching UTCM? You probably should have just bought Purple Rain on blu-ray. Give your self a treat and watch them all. At least then you can make up your own mind on whether or not you like them.

Because it was the only chance to see UTCM with german dub.

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All BDs in the set are also available separately. https://www.amazon.de/Und...01N27SBCA/ .

Darshy said:

And because it wasn't a smash like PR, there were just too many people wanting to write it off, and write off Prince too. Prince as this narcissistic, sex-crazed individual was solidified. But to me it's very simple; if you don't dig this movie, then you're not getting the essence of what it was about Prince.

Good post.

I think a lot of use were 'deceived' like we were with SOTT

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We thought Under the Cherry Moon was going to have band performances

and we thought SOTT was going to have scripting acting scenes

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I think those realizations initially deflate peoples expectations.

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We were so used to the brooding shadowy Prince that this took us by suprise in some respect.

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There was a piece I read on why it is hard for most singers/musicians to transition over to acting, and they said a big reason is because they are usually so defined as characteristically by their music and that expression. So when it comes to the big screen, something doesn't connect.

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the Kid was probably closer to who Prince is than Christopher at the core. But it still wasn't his characater that made the movie, the performances were the 2nd layer of the foundation of PR.
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Under the Cherry Moon if it had that 2nd layer would have been a much better movie and possibly the alternative ending used, could have put UTCM and the Parade era on the same level of Purple Rain.

BartVanHemelen said:

TXfan said:

TXfan said:

I think if you’re a true Prince fan you will enjoy them all. They all have what you really wanted to see in them, Prince. You have to know that when those movies came out Prince wasn’t even doing interviews. Most people just wanted to hear him speak, who cared about the acting. I grew up watching Elvis movies and even watched the Kiss movie when I was a kid. I can’t even remember most of what those movies were about but I remember the music. Enjoy your Prince movies, it’s the only ones you will ever have of him.

you're right about having prince alive and vibrant onscreen, it helped me get through some of the grieving, even as bad as graffiti bridge was. as far as Elvis' movies, i never cared for them and I'm about the biggest elvis fan there is, i've seen his early ones but couldn't bring myself to watch clambake and all the rest. maybe someday i will, i hear Muhammad Ali liked watching old Elvis movies in his last years, I'm sure Elvis would get a kick out of that being that he was a huge Ali fan himself.

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It's not his objectively best film, but it's my favourite. Just pure goofy fun (and great cinematography!).

PeteSilas said:

TXfan said:

PeteSilas said:

you're right about having prince alive and vibrant onscreen, it helped me get through some of the grieving, even as bad as graffiti bridge was. as far as Elvis' movies, i never cared for them and I'm about the biggest elvis fan there is, i've seen his early ones but couldn't bring myself to watch clambake and all the rest. maybe someday i will, i hear Muhammad Ali liked watching old Elvis movies in his last years, I'm sure Elvis would get a kick out of that being that he was a huge Ali fan himself.

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I agree, those movies of Prince helped me tremendously after his passing. My sons who are in their 20’s would come in my room and say “watching your Prince movies again dad?” They knew how much I cared for Prince and how important he was to me. It went on for months, every weekend. I watched every YouTube video too. Not all of those were the best quality but it didn’t matter, some were real gems that captured Prince at his best. When I watched those Prince movies again and again that’s what I was looking for, those gems. The costumes,the flawless dancing, the performance scenes, the funny side of Prince. They’re all in there. BTW, I can’t believe you didn’t like Elvis’s “Clambake” that was the bomb. Lol

maybe it was, i gotta admit, i was jaded by all the crap i've heard about E's movies from when i was a kid, i watched his early movies, king creole, jailhouse rock and loving you were fine and the music was great. i watched it happened at the world's fair and maybe one or two of the others but i don't like the idea of my man squandering his talent which is all i've heard about those movies.

eyewishuheaven said:

It's not his objectively best film, but it's my favourite. Just pure goofy fun (and great cinematography!).

Yes, even being outside of a general 'Prince' scene the setting I was easily able to see 'Uptown' in the movie

UTCM is amazing and better than Purple Rain.

Graffiti Bridge is tragic.

TKO said:

UTCM is amazing and better than Purple Rain.

Agreed.
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PR is meant to be a serious drama (with amazing music, obviously) but the acting isn't great.

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UTCM is meant to be a romantic comedy with some dark elements - the acting still isn't great but that's at least partially intentional in a movie of this type. And where it isn't intentional, it doesn't matter too much because of the frothy genre.
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On balance, therefore, for me, UTCM wins..
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GB smacks, sadly, of someone REALLY trying too hard to make a pseudo-philosophical film - but its self-consciousness makes it a very awkward watch, tbh.

I love both Purple Rain and Under the Cherry Moon

but PR wins out for me, because the ending of Under the Cherry Moon isn't so good. When he finally falls in love with Kirsten and he and Tricky fall out continuing to the end wasn't as good as the rest of the film. Purple Rain from beginning to end was good. I want to see the alternative ending to UTCM, even see it in the film in place of the released ending.

It is a okay movie. I gave it a 6/10. Lengthy (coiuld have used some major editing), however beautiful, funny and the music is good.

paisleypark4 said:

It is a okay movie. I gave it a 6/10. Lengthy (coiuld have used some major editing), however beautiful, funny and the music is good.

2 band performances at Mary Sharons Birthday (day/night) party:the Family High Fashion Prince & the Revolution -New Position(good time to break out a long version if there was one), (the Girls & Boys video) in place of the Girls & Boys scene at the party, after Tricky Christopher Mary went shopping they go to a performance ie A Love Bizarre and Christopher jumps on stage with Sheila E and band

maybe on other performance like in the background: the Revolution doing Alexa de Paris during that club Venus de Milo scene

OldFriends4Sale said:

I love both Purple Rain and Under the Cherry Moon

but PR wins out for me, because the ending of Under the Cherry Moon isn't so good. When he finally falls in love with Kirsten and he and Tricky fall out continuing to the end wasn't as good as the rest of the film. Purple Rain from beginning to end was good. I want to see the alternative ending to UTCM, even see it in the film in place of the released ending.

PR will be my alltime favourite

It's arriving today (if they don't mess it up again). Man I've never been so excited over an order.