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Reply #120 posted 11/03/17 6:00pm

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Suboxone is very controlled substance and very few doctors are authorized to prescribe.

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Reply #121 posted 11/03/17 6:34pm

Menes

laurarichardson said:

Menes said:

In continuation of the pills that were found at Paisley Park and taken into custody:

"One (1) orange pill with the inscription #8".

1.This pill appears to be buprenorphine ( a scheduled III substance). It is pirmarily used to treat withdrawals from opiod addiction, but is also used to reduce pain and produce feelings of well being as it binds with the opioid receptors.

2. The brand name for buprenorphine is Subutex.

3. Suboxone is the commercial name for Buprenorphine when combined with Naloxone.

4. Andrew Kornfeld brought Buprenorphine with him for his scheduled visit with Prince on 4-20-16.

Though procured illegally, I think we can ascertain that on its own , or in interaction with the other substances, it is unlikely that this produced lethal toxicity.


Short Summary



So far, we have what appeaear to be the following: A substantial need to increas Vitamain D intake: Which may be the result of a host of issues , to include, but not limited to; dietary inadequacy, impaired absorption and use, increased requirement, limited sun light exposure, kidneys that cannot convert it , digestive tract is inadequate ,and the all of the other things that many of you (LR, Stlmuziqlvr,Dibblekins, Penny) mentioned previously.

I wanted to add that there is precedent and correlation for us to assume that inadequate Vitamin D levels is linked to the amount of narcotic medication for those with chronic pain who are ingesting opioids as they are seeking relief from certain cancer types.

* For your records.

Low Vitamin D Levels Are ...ose in ...



Buprenorphine: A New Treatment Option for Opioid Addiction

Buprenorphine Safety, Adverse Reactions, and Drug Interactions












—The is interesting as this means he had the Suboxne already before Andrew came and I wondered on this board why he did not just get some to ween himself off which I now think he was trying to do. Perhaps withdrawing on an outpatient basis while dealing with other issues. It is the only thing that explains how he was able to get around. [Edited 11/3/17 16:43pm]

Let's keep in mind that even with the ondanestron, there was no prescription for it. Let's think about that for a second. Zofran is not in the least bit a popular drug on the street that dealers are distributing. If you don't have a prescription for that, you either have access to a pill mill (domestic or foreign), or, have someone on the inside to get it for you ( as in a doctor or pharmacist).

A lot of these drugs may not have been bought from "off the street". Just look at the way that bottle ended up in Kirk's name yet , with no prescription. It is as if someone intentionally orchestrated that.

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Reply #122 posted 11/03/17 8:03pm

Menes

Menes said:

Menes said:

In continuation of the pills that were found at Paisley Park and taken into custody:

Ten(10) white pills with the inscription "A-349"

1.This pill seems to be identified with Acetaminophen and Oxycodone hydrochrloride 325 mg/5mg , and at times is commonly called, generic "Percocet". It produces the same action as other opioid medications that bind to opioid receptors.

2. It is widely used to alleviate moderate to severe pain, but is also increasingly used in the managemenat of cancer related and chronic pain.

3. Acetaminophen can play a vital role in Vitamin D deficiency , and both renal/ liver failure.

4.Kirk Johnson had Oxycodone prescribed to him by Dr. Schulenberg on 4-14-2016. This is not the same bottle. I am speculating that either Prince initially used it as a test pilot , or gained knowledge of its usage, and then procured his own after finding a form of relief from it.



Short Summary


So far , it seems that self administered control mechanisms were devised in order to manage some type of pain. There is less evidence that this was primarily driven by addiction.

* For your records:

Use of Oxycodone in Pain ...NCBI - NIH


[Edited 11/3/17 15:41pm]

In continuation of the pills that were found at Paisley Park and taken into custody:

CVS Pharmacy bottle containing Ondansetron HCL 8 mg.

1. Ondansetron is primaily used to prevent nausea and vomiting that is caused by cancer medicines (chemotherapy or radiation therapy). The brand name for this drug is Zofran. This drug should define the condition or state of the user more than any other drug that was taken from Paisley Park.


2. It works by blocking the action of serotonin, the signal on the brain that causes nausea and vomiting. There were many posters in numerous org. threads ( to include this one) who had already stated these findings. I have not found any other compelling reason for the use of this drug other than that which is clearly stated above. This is to include HIV and AIDS.

3. This drug can produce a variety of serious side effects to include , but not limited to; itching, rash, nervousness, anxiety, irregular heartbeats, etc.

4. Ths may explain a lot of the other prescribed drugs that were given to Prince by Dr. Schulenberg.

5. One prescription was writtend for Kirk Johnson by Dr. Schulenberg and is shown as, Oxycodone. However, the CVS Pharmacy bottle with the Ondansetron HCL 8mg, was in Kirk Johnson's name. The Midwest Monitoring Program does not list Kirk Johnson as receiving Ondansetron via a doctor's prescription. Unless Kirk had problems with nausea and vomiting too, I think you can understand what is happening here.

5. Since I don't believe Prince had surgery as current as when the pills were found, I believe he was either self medicating without the use of chemotherapy, or , receiving chemotherapy secretly. I lean to the former.


Short Summary

So far, it seems that self adminstered mechanisms were devised in order to manage some type of pain. There is less evidence that this is primarily driven by addiction.


*For your records :

MedlinePlus Information o...rochloride

[Edited 11/3/17 16:42pm]

I may need to adjust my eyeballs because this thng I will now write, is for me, a disaster with these tabloid and news outlets.

They should all be fired!

So, I am nearing the end of my report on the drugs mentioned in all of the warrants . I am looking at these things and I am perplexed by such odd findings.

I do my searches and come up empty and can't understand why. Then it hits me. It's the wrong fucking set of numbers and descriptions that was reported on for over a year!

What is this thing you may wonder?

3-8-5. Remember that number? Watson 385.

The trusted AP, Billboard, and on and on and on we could go. 385 is the mislabeled tainted toxic pill that contained fentanyl. No, not a fentanyl pill, not another pill , but watson 3-8-5. Nope, not even the real watson 853 pill is part of the discussion/ article.



We have the warrant here. The warrant says watson 853 ! Typo you say? It gets better!

Billboard states that the "watson 385" pills were found in a Vitamin C bottle! It just keeps getting worse!

Our trusted AP( Associated Press) source corrected a "mistake they made by stating that it was U-47700 and not U-4770 that was the synthetic drugs found in some pills. The article goes on to say that "nearly two dozen pills were falsely labeled Watson 385". Then they lied and said that the Star Tribune reported the false labeling first. eek I don't think the Star Tribune article mentioned any set of numbers.

* The NY times did get it right.


Pills Found at Prince's E... Billboard




Correction: Prince Death ... - AP News


Why is that important? There has never been any conclusive evidence that fentanyl laced death pills were contained in watson 853, nor that any of the pills contained U-47700 or U4770. Not even those on the street. Google it. I'll wait. Ok, I'm done waiting.


So here we are, on this wild goose chase (or is it just me) to find this nasty fentanyl outbreak that got into the millions of counterfeit batches of Watson 385. Or is it Watson 853? Either way, it would be part of the batch that Prince would get a hold of. Yes,yes, of course.

I know getting information from the DEA is harder than prying anything from a crab's ass, but they did give us a free report. Nice dates too.

There are some more tidbits but I will give you time to read the DEA's boring report that was filed in July , 2016 . Ill give you a tidbit now.

So, remember that AP report about the correction they made from U-47700 to U-4770? How ironic is it that pills, that were blue , with the marking "A215" did contain U-47700 in March of 2016 ( see page 5).


For your records:

Counterfeit Prescription ... ... - DEA

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Reply #123 posted 11/03/17 10:24pm

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mmmmm Elisa post this on twitter...clues?

This is happening on Monday. Be there 4 Pancreatic Cancer and 4 Prince. It's gonna b a Purple night of

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Reply #124 posted 11/03/17 10:34pm

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Strawberrylova123 said:

mmmmm Elisa post this on twitter...clues?

This is happening on Monday. Be there 4 Pancreatic Cancer and 4 Prince. It's gonna b a Purple night of

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Reply #125 posted 11/03/17 10:52pm

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PennyPurple said:

eek



Strawberrylova123 said:


mmmmm Elisa post this on twitter...clues?








This is happening on Monday. Be there 4 Pancreatic Cancer and 4 Prince. It's gonna b a Purple night of







Didn't someone on here say he might of had pancreatic cancer
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Reply #126 posted 11/04/17 3:51am

TypoQueen

Strawberrylova123 said:

mmmmm Elisa post this on twitter...clues?








This is happening on Monday. Be there 4 Pancreatic Cancer and 4 Prince. It's gonna b a Purple night of





cry my uncle recently passed away due to pancreatic cancer. The colour purple is used by campaigners and charities to raise awareness. In the UK this week/weekend is “stand up to cancer”. Everyone is raising awareness.
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Reply #127 posted 11/04/17 4:03am

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Pancreatic cancer in the head of the pancreas tends to cause symptoms such as weight loss, jaundice (yellow skin), dark urine, light stool color, itching, nausea, vomiting, abdominal pain, back pain, and enlarged lymph nodes in the neck.

This possibility cannot be overuled, imo. Although I'm thinking it might have been a combination of both factors (drug abuse and ilness). If Prince found out he had pancreatic cancer 3 years ago that would be 2014. He was kinda bloated around this time, so perhaps he did some chemo treatment. Then we got AOA. Being told he had cancer might have made him start thinking about "tidying up his place", as many people take this terrible diagnosis as a death sentence. He might have been battling it right up until his death. Maybe the cancer later spread or came back in full force, hence the jaundice, weight loss, vomiting, the chefs' account of him not being able to keep food down, cancelling of shows, calling old friends, reminishing during P&M, etc. He was wearing gloves and turtle necks indoors.

His frailty in 2016 is undeniable. He probably had managed to deal with his pain med increasing dependency for long, but that combined with some physical ilness proved to be a letal combination.

[Edited 11/4/17 4:24am]

[Edited 11/4/17 4:25am]

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Reply #128 posted 11/04/17 4:07am

TypoQueen

Menes said:



Menes said:




Menes said:



In continuation of the pills that were found at Paisley Park and taken into custody:

Ten(10) white pills with the inscription "A-349"

1.This pill seems to be identified with Acetaminophen and Oxycodone hydrochrloride 325 mg/5mg , and at times is commonly called, generic "Percocet". It produces the same action as other opioid medications that bind to opioid receptors.

2. It is widely used to alleviate moderate to severe pain, but is also increasingly used in the managemenat of cancer related and chronic pain.

3. Acetaminophen can play a vital role in Vitamin D deficiency , and both renal/ liver failure.

4.Kirk Johnson had Oxycodone prescribed to him by Dr. Schulenberg on 4-14-2016. This is not the same bottle. I am speculating that either Prince initially used it as a test pilot , or gained knowledge of its usage, and then procured his own after finding a form of relief from it.



Short Summary


So far , it seems that self administered control mechanisms were devised in order to manage some type of pain. There is less evidence that this was primarily driven by addiction.

* For your records:

Use of Oxycodone in Pain ...NCBI - NIH



[Edited 11/3/17 15:41pm]



In continuation of the pills that were found at Paisley Park and taken into custody:

CVS Pharmacy bottle containing Ondansetron HCL 8 mg.

1. Ondansetron is primaily used to prevent nausea and vomiting that is caused by cancer medicines (chemotherapy or radiation therapy). The brand name for this drug is Zofran. This drug should define the condition or state of the user more than any other drug that was taken from Paisley Park.


2. It works by blocking the action of serotonin, the signal on the brain that causes nausea and vomiting. There were many posters in numerous org. threads ( to include this one) who had already stated these findings. I have not found any other compelling reason for the use of this drug other than that which is clearly stated above. This is to include HIV and AIDS.

3. This drug can produce a variety of serious side effects to include , but not limited to; itching, rash, nervousness, anxiety, irregular heartbeats, etc.

4. Ths may explain a lot of the other prescribed drugs that were given to Prince by Dr. Schulenberg.

5. One prescription was writtend for Kirk Johnson by Dr. Schulenberg and is shown as, Oxycodone. However, the CVS Pharmacy bottle with the Ondansetron HCL 8mg, was in Kirk Johnson's name. The Midwest Monitoring Program does not list Kirk Johnson as receiving Ondansetron via a doctor's prescription. Unless Kirk had problems with nausea and vomiting too, I think you can understand what is happening here.

5. Since I don't believe Prince had surgery as current as when the pills were found, I believe he was either self medicating without the use of chemotherapy, or , receiving chemotherapy secretly. I lean to the former.


Short Summary

So far, it seems that self adminstered mechanisms were devised in order to manage some type of pain. There is less evidence that this is primarily driven by addiction.


*For your records :

MedlinePlus Information o...rochloride


[Edited 11/3/17 16:42pm]



I may need to adjust my eyeballs because this thng I will now write, is for me, a disaster with these tabloid and news outlets.

They should all be fired!

So, I am nearing the end of my report on the drugs mentioned in all of the warrants . I am looking at these things and I am perplexed by such odd findings.

I do my searches and come up empty and can't understand why. Then it hits me. It's the wrong fucking set of numbers and descriptions that was reported on for over a year!

What is this thing you may wonder?

3-8-5. Remember that number? Watson 385.

The trusted AP, Billboard, and on and on and on we could go. 385 is the mislabeled tainted toxic pill that contained fentanyl. No, not a fentanyl pill, not another pill , but watson 3-8-5. Nope, not even the real watson 853 pill is part of the discussion/ article.



We have the warrant here. The warrant says watson 853 ! Typo you say? It gets better!

Billboard states that the "watson 385" pills were found in a Vitamin C bottle! It just keeps getting worse!

Our trusted AP( Associated Press) source corrected a "mistake they made by stating that it was U-47700 and not U-4770 that was the synthetic drugs found in some pills. The article goes on to say that "nearly two dozen pills were falsely labeled Watson 385". Then they lied and said that the Star Tribune reported the false labeling first. eek I don't think the Star Tribune article mentioned any set of numbers.

* The NY times did get it right.


Pills Found at Prince's E... Billboard




Correction: Prince Death ... - AP News


Why is that important? There has never been any conclusive evidence that fentanyl laced death pills were contained in watson 853, nor that any of the pills contained U-47700 or U4770. Not even those on the street. Google it. I'll wait. Ok, I'm done waiting.


So here we are, on this wild goose chase (or is it just me) to find this nasty fentanyl outbreak that got into the millions of counterfeit batches of Watson 385. Or is it Watson 853? Either way, it would be part of the batch that Prince would get a hold of. Yes,yes, of course.

I know getting information from the DEA is harder than prying anything from a crab's ass, but they did give us a free report. Nice dates too.

There are some more tidbits but I will give you time to read the DEA's boring report that was filed in July , 2016 . Ill give you a tidbit now.

So, remember that AP report about the correction they made from U-47700 to U-4770? How ironic is it that pills, that were blue , with the marking "A215" did contain U-47700 in March of 2016 ( see page 5).


For your records:

Counterfeit Prescription ... ... - DEA


Years back Counterfeit drugs got into the NHS chain in UK.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news...h-16760513

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/h...865569.stm
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Reply #129 posted 11/04/17 10:48am

Menes

TypoQueen said:

Menes said:

I may need to adjust my eyeballs because this thng I will now write, is for me, a disaster with these tabloid and news outlets.

They should all be fired!

So, I am nearing the end of my report on the drugs mentioned in all of the warrants . I am looking at these things and I am perplexed by such odd findings.

I do my searches and come up empty and can't understand why. Then it hits me. It's the wrong fucking set of numbers and descriptions that was reported on for over a year!

What is this thing you may wonder?

3-8-5. Remember that number? Watson 385.

The trusted AP, Billboard, and on and on and on we could go. 385 is the mislabeled tainted toxic pill that contained fentanyl. No, not a fentanyl pill, not another pill , but watson 3-8-5. Nope, not even the real watson 853 pill is part of the discussion/ article.



We have the warrant here. The warrant says watson 853 ! Typo you say? It gets better!

Billboard states that the "watson 385" pills were found in a Vitamin C bottle! It just keeps getting worse!

Our trusted AP( Associated Press) source corrected a "mistake they made by stating that it was U-47700 and not U-4770 that was the synthetic drugs found in some pills. The article goes on to say that "nearly two dozen pills were falsely labeled Watson 385". Then they lied and said that the Star Tribune reported the false labeling first. eek I don't think the Star Tribune article mentioned any set of numbers.

* The NY times did get it right.


Pills Found at Prince's E... Billboard




Correction: Prince Death ... - AP News


Why is that important? There has never been any conclusive evidence that fentanyl laced death pills were contained in watson 853, nor that any of the pills contained U-47700 or U4770. Not even those on the street. Google it. I'll wait. Ok, I'm done waiting.


So here we are, on this wild goose chase (or is it just me) to find this nasty fentanyl outbreak that got into the millions of counterfeit batches of Watson 385. Or is it Watson 853? Either way, it would be part of the batch that Prince would get a hold of. Yes,yes, of course.

I know getting information from the DEA is harder than prying anything from a crab's ass, but they did give us a free report. Nice dates too.

There are some more tidbits but I will give you time to read the DEA's boring report that was filed in July , 2016 . Ill give you a tidbit now.

So, remember that AP report about the correction they made from U-47700 to U-4770? How ironic is it that pills, that were blue , with the marking "A215" did contain U-47700 in March of 2016 ( see page 5).


For your records:

Counterfeit Prescription ... ... - DEA

Years back Counterfeit drugs got into the NHS chain in UK. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news...h-16760513 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/h...865569.stm

Well, I didn't find any alarming or compelling reports to support that in the U.S., (specifically the Midwest) there was/is a groundswell of "watson 853" counterfeit pills laced with toxic levels of Fentanyl that were/is the cause of mass overdose.

However , there was/is a marked increase in the Midwest in heroin overdsoes that were laced with toxic levels of fentanyl.

Those pills were/are imprinted differently and are still in heavy rotation from regiom to region.

I found one news source in Louisiana (Natchitoches Parish) where the article talks about "numerous" watson 853 pills that contained toxic levels of fentanyl and Alprozalam ( generic Xanax).

Another pill (dubbed the "superpill"), has the imprint,"xanax" and not watson 853.The Midwest was inundated with this pill and was/is the cause of a tremendous amout of overdoses from 2012-present. There are different street names for it from region to region.

Oxycodone copycat pills (laced with toxic doses of fentanyl and imprinted as A215 and not watson 853), is the counterfeit pill that inundated the Midwest and caused tremendous spikes in deaths nation wide from 2012-present. These have been dubbed "roxi" pills but may have different street name from region to region.

It is becoming increasingly difficult to find any conclusive evidence, that pills, namely watson 853, was/is laced with toxic levels of fentanyl and was/is mass distributed nationally, or more precisely ,the Midwest (Minnesota).


* As an aside, we can trace the bulk of pills coming to the Midwest from specific regions and cartels in Mexico . With the correct search , you can find who makes what pill, cotents of the pill, distirbution routes , etc.

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Reply #130 posted 11/04/17 12:08pm

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ThatWhiteDude said:

Menes said:



Menes said:




Menes said:


I wanted to disregard all of the tabloid information I've read and focus soley on the facts of each search warrant that was reviewed here. Of note, there are some things in these warrants that I was not aware of and found interesting. Some if not most of it, is already known here on the org. I will highlight the tidbits that I wasn't aware of until taking a closer look at the warrants. I wil post each in descending order as time permits.

September 19, 2016 warrant filed and issued.

1. This is the warrant for all data maintained by Google, Inc. for the Gmail account identified as Paislerparkafterdark@gmail.com. The facts tending to establish foregoing grounds for issuance are as followed.

Below are the finding from the "Affiant" , detective Christina Warner, of the Carver County Sherriff's office for 16 years.

a. On April 21, 2016 at 0943 hours , the Sheriffs deputies were dispatched to Paisley Park studios.

b. Prince Rogers Nelson was found in an elevator and not breathing.

c. Prince was unresponsive and pronounced deceased at the scene.

d. Witnesses at the scene that were interviewed stated that Prince recently had a history of going thru withdrawals which are believed to be the result of the abuse of prescription medication. ( I wasn't aware that someone in Prince's camp stated that).

e. The Affiant learned that Prince had "passed out" during a flight from Atlanta.

f. According to one of the witnesses interviewed, Prince admitted to taking 1-2 "pain pills" during this flight.

g. During the search of Prince's residence, detectives located numerous controlled substance pills in various containers and areas of Prince's bedroom, some of which was in a suitcase with the name tag of "Peter Bravestrong". Inside of the suitcase were several prescription bottles in the name of Kirk Johnson.

h. Prince had no prescriptions issued to him but Kirk Johnson had Oxycodone prescribed to him by Dr. Michael Schuelenberg on 4-14-2016 according to the Minnesota Prescription Monitoring Program.

i. On 4-26-16 Attorney Gary Hansen (who had been appointed to take care of Prince's affairs after death) provided consent for the Sherriff's office to take custody of a silver Apple laptop computer found in Prince's bedroom.

j. On Monday 5-19-2016 Sgt. Meir received a phone call from Dr. Quin Strobel(ME) on whch the results of Prince's toxicology screening showed Prince had a lethal dose of the narcotic fentanyl in his system. (wasn't the information released prior to this date, or was it June?)

k. Dr. Schulenberg( who was at the scene on 4-21-2016) admitted to prescribing Prince a prescription for oxycodone the same day as the landing but put the prescription in kirk Johnson's name for privacy.

L. Affiant learned that Prince did not have a regular doctor and that his managers would set him up with various doctors before a show so that Prince could get a "b12" injection before his performance.

m. Affiant learned that Julia Yasine Ramadan(Prince's manager from 2011-2013) set up a google account for Prince identified as jyramadan@gmail.com.

n. DEA learned that Prince's computer had several email accounts to include mistag3@ gmail, peterbravestrong @gmail, paisleyparkafterdark@gmail, and jyramaan@gmail.

o. Affiant learned that Julia Ramadan told detective Kuhnau that after she heard about the drug overdose ,she had sent an email to Prince stating "sending my love" to which a response of "love recieved " was sent back to her.

p. On 9-19-2016, Affiant received information from google that all accounts were current. There was also a recovery email that was set up in the name of KAJhipfit.net which is one of the accounts registered to Kirk Johnson. The Affiant confirmed that they are aware that Kirk Johnson previously assisted Prince in obtaining a controlled substance by contacting Dr. Schulenberg on 4-14-16.




June 10th, 2016 search warrant filed and issued: re: Cell tower records: Some information may overlap with September , 2016 warrant.

This is the warrant for all cell tower records (At&T). It is related to a specific cell number . The number is listed. I did call it 100 times or more some months back. No one answered.

a. On April 14 2016, Prince traveled to Atlanta , Ga, for a concert. Among those traveling with Prince was Kirk Johnson. On April 15th, 2016, Prince suffered a medical emergency and the plane made an emergency landing at Moline, IL.

b. The doctor who treated Prince documented Prince as suffering from an opiate overdose, however, Prince refused treatment ast the hospital. Johnson told hospital staff that Prince may have taken percocet. PRince was released later that morning.

c. The Affiant has learned that Kirk Johnson had contacted Dr.Schulenberg for Prince in regard to hip pain. Dr. Schlenberg met with Prince and prescribed him Clonidine, Hydroxyzine Pamoate and Daizepam.

d. On 4 20-16 Johnson went to Walgreens to pick up a presciption for Prince located at 4950 CO rd 101. Kirk Johnson said it was the first time he had done that.

e. During a search warrant executed on 4-21-16 at Paisley Park, a suitcase was found next to Prince's bed. One Vitamin D bottle was shown and contained Odanestron hydrochloride.

f. Johnson told investigators he was unaware that Prince was addicted to pain medication. Many of the pills that were found were found in places Prince would often frequent. As in bedroom, wardrobe , laundry room.

g. Your Affiant finds it reasonable that Johnson would have had knowledge of Prince's abuse of narcotics /medication.

h. Your Affiant is aware that Johnson is one of the very few people that have unrestricted access to Paisley Park.



June 1st, 2016 Search warrant filed and issued. Some information may overlap with previous posts. This is in relation to additonal Cellular tower Dumps for Sprint.

a. The Affiant , detective, Tyles Stahn received information from interviews that Prince's assistant had arranged between Prince and medical professionals to assess Prince's medical concerns. One of those professionals was Andrew Kornfeld. Kornfeld was at Prince's residence when Prince was found deceased.

b. Kornfeld was found to be in possession of several controlled substances that he did not have a prescription for.

c. During the course of the investigation , investigators learned that Prince had not been heard or seen from since 4-20-2016 around 2000 hours. The Affiant is aware that there is no security or video surveillance and that Prince lived by himself.

d. The investigation reveals that interviews of those who were there when Prince was found that morning, are inconsistent and contradictory at times.

e. The Affiant is aware that friends of Prince who were there were receiving and making phone calls/ text messages on the morning his body was found.


2000 hours? eek

They say 2000:00 party’s over, whoops! Out of time.
I wish u heaven
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Reply #131 posted 11/04/17 1:17pm

Dibblekins

Spanky said:

ThatWhiteDude said:
2000 hours? eek
They say 2000:00 party’s over, whoops! Out of time.

Whoaaahhh... eek

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Reply #132 posted 11/04/17 3:36pm

206Michelle

Menes, Is this information you are posting coming from documents at http://www.mncourts.gov/M...rince.aspx ?
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Reply #133 posted 11/04/17 3:48pm

206Michelle

Menes said:

Just wanted to say that I took away for these reports (coupled wth some other reports that I have) a strong sense of pain that was undeniable, and in no uncertaing terms , pointing to the end of the road.

The "don't ask, dont tell" choir is quite apparent and is indicative of the type of person he was.

There is one central figure in this story (besides Prince)whom the investigators certainly focused on very early on.

I do not believe that the amount of pills found are an indication of relief for merely "hip pain" or, that they soley represent addiction . Rather, that there was a more serious underlying illness, coupled with other ailments that compounded the problem of addiction. This cascading narrative inevitably was going to lead to a full disclosure of everything that was once guarded and impenetrable.

Accidental or not, I don't think he was in a very good space regardless of what he had planned for the future and he knew that.


For your records:


In Re: The Investigation into the Death of Prince Rogers Nelson



Memes, I think you have made a very fair, reasonable assessment here, and I very much agree with it.
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It is so sad that Prince was unwilling to seek treatment in a timely manner. I think his pride may have got the best of him in this situation (referring to the health issues and/or painkiller abuse).
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Reply #134 posted 11/04/17 3:56pm

206Michelle

anangellooksdown said:

XxAxX said:

sad poor sweetie. he had to have been in intense pain. bawl



Exactly my thoughts. I feel he couldn't stand the pain anymore. I am sad all over again today.
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And I think it was more than just physical pain. I think there was emotional pain as well. I wonder if he was lonely. He was around people, but he didn’t have anyone “to come home to.” He didn’t have his own family. I don’t even have a clear idea of how close he was to his siblings or neices and nephews.
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206Michelle said:

anangellooksdown said:
Exactly my thoughts. I feel he couldn't stand the pain anymore. I am sad all over again today. [Edited 11/2/17 16:47pm]
And I think it was more than just physical pain. I think there was emotional pain as well. I wonder if he was lonely. He was around people, but he didn’t have anyone “to come home to.” He didn’t have his own family. I don’t even have a clear idea of how close he was to his siblings or neices and nephews.



my father passed away of pancreatic cancer in 2001. so i'm likely projecting on Prince's passing, but from what i've seen in this thread, and my own observations of P the last time I saw him in person (autumn, 2015 and i deeply regret missing his last parties), he might have been suffering from something similar. poor Mr. Nelson. I just... can't. can't believe he's gone. hope he did not suffer terribly. too sad. rose sad

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206Michelle said:

anangellooksdown said: And I think it was more than just physical pain. I think there was emotional pain as well. I wonder if he was lonely. He was around people, but he didn’t have anyone “to come home to.” He didn’t have his own family. I don’t even have a clear idea of how close he was to his siblings or neices and nephews.



my father passed away of pancreatic cancer in 2001. so i'm likely projecting on Prince's passing, but from what i've seen in this thread, and my own observations of P the last time I saw him in person (autumn, 2015 and i deeply regret missing his last parties), he might have been suffering from something similar. poor Mr. Nelson. I just... can't. can't believe he's gone. hope he did not suffer terribly. too sad. rose sad

My cousin lasted 6 weeks when she was diagnosed with it. It's brutal.

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Reply #137 posted 11/04/17 7:28pm

Menes

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Menes said:

In continuation of the pills that were found at Paisley Park and taken into custody:

CVS Pharmacy bottle containing Ondansetron HCL 8 mg.

1. Ondansetron is primaily used to prevent nausea and vomiting that is caused by cancer medicines (chemotherapy or radiation therapy). The brand name for this drug is Zofran. This drug should define the condition or state of the user more than any other drug that was taken from Paisley Park.


2. It works by blocking the action of serotonin, the signal on the brain that causes nausea and vomiting. There were many posters in numerous org. threads ( to include this one) who had already stated these findings. I have not found any other compelling reason for the use of this drug other than that which is clearly stated above. This is to include HIV and AIDS.

3. This drug can produce a variety of serious side effects to include , but not limited to; itching, rash, nervousness, anxiety, irregular heartbeats, etc.

4. Ths may explain a lot of the other prescribed drugs that were given to Prince by Dr. Schulenberg.

5. One prescription was writtend for Kirk Johnson by Dr. Schulenberg and is shown as, Oxycodone. However, the CVS Pharmacy bottle with the Ondansetron HCL 8mg, was in Kirk Johnson's name. The Midwest Monitoring Program does not list Kirk Johnson as receiving Ondansetron via a doctor's prescription. Unless Kirk had problems with nausea and vomiting too, I think you can understand what is happening here.

5. Since I don't believe Prince had surgery as current as when the pills were found, I believe he was either self medicating without the use of chemotherapy, or , receiving chemotherapy secretly. I lean to the former.


Short Summary

So far, it seems that self adminstered mechanisms were devised in order to manage some type of pain. There is less evidence that this is primarily driven by addiction.


*For your records :

MedlinePlus Information o...rochloride

[Edited 11/3/17 16:42pm]

I may need to adjust my eyeballs because this thng I will now write, is for me, a disaster with these tabloid and news outlets.

They should all be fired!

So, I am nearing the end of my report on the drugs mentioned in all of the warrants . I am looking at these things and I am perplexed by such odd findings.

I do my searches and come up empty and can't understand why. Then it hits me. It's the wrong fucking set of numbers and descriptions that was reported on for over a year!

What is this thing you may wonder?

3-8-5. Remember that number? Watson 385.

The trusted AP, Billboard, and on and on and on we could go. 385 is the mislabeled tainted toxic pill that contained fentanyl. No, not a fentanyl pill, not another pill , but watson 3-8-5. Nope, not even the real watson 853 pill is part of the discussion/ article.



We have the warrant here. The warrant says watson 853 ! Typo you say? It gets better!

Billboard states that the "watson 385" pills were found in a Vitamin C bottle! It just keeps getting worse!

Our trusted AP( Associated Press) source corrected a "mistake they made by stating that it was U-47700 and not U-4770 that was the synthetic drugs found in some pills. The article goes on to say that "nearly two dozen pills were falsely labeled Watson 385". Then they lied and said that the Star Tribune reported the false labeling first. eek I don't think the Star Tribune article mentioned any set of numbers.

* The NY times did get it right.


Pills Found at Prince's E... Billboard




Correction: Prince Death ... - AP News


Why is that important? There has never been any conclusive evidence that fentanyl laced death pills were contained in watson 853, nor that any of the pills contained U-47700 or U4770. Not even those on the street. Google it. I'll wait. Ok, I'm done waiting.


So here we are, on this wild goose chase (or is it just me) to find this nasty fentanyl outbreak that got into the millions of counterfeit batches of Watson 385. Or is it Watson 853? Either way, it would be part of the batch that Prince would get a hold of. Yes,yes, of course.

I know getting information from the DEA is harder than prying anything from a crab's ass, but they did give us a free report. Nice dates too.

There are some more tidbits but I will give you time to read the DEA's boring report that was filed in July , 2016 . Ill give you a tidbit now.

So, remember that AP report about the correction they made from U-47700 to U-4770? How ironic is it that pills, that were blue , with the marking "A215" did contain U-47700 in March of 2016 ( see page 5).


For your records:

Counterfeit Prescription ... ... - DEA

Overview and summary of pills found:

I counted the amount of pills that were taking into custody and that are directly related to the discussion of opiate overdose. This does not include the total number of pills taken into custody. The number of pills takes into custody (and specifically related to opiate overdose) was 109.75

1. Of the 109.75 number of pills, 99.75 were labled Watson 853.

2. Of the 109.75 number of pills, ten(10) were labeled A-349.

3. Both of these pills are opiates, namely hydrocodone and oxycodone.

4. An exhaustive search was done to determine whether or not there was an outbreak of illicit pills bearing the imprint of either of these pills. The evidence does not support that there was/is large scale manufacturing or distribution of the aforementioned pills . However , there are reports of watson 853 being laced with toxic leveles of fentanyl in states like Lousisiana. There were no reports found in Minnesota or the Midwest for watson 853 pills laced with toxic fentanyl.

5. Mathematically, if Prince ingested one single pill from that batch, it is equal to a 0.92% chance of picking the correct pill that resulted in an overdose.


6. An exhaustive search was done to determine what street level pills were in active circulation at or around the time of Prince's death.

7. The "blue pill" imprinted as A-215, is basically roxycodone ( a pain reliever) and is also commonly known as "roxy". This pill was found to be in mass circulation in states like Minnesota, Louisiana, Tennessee, Massachusetts, etc.


8. Here are some attached reports and examples to substantiate the search:

Nearly 500 pills believed to be laced with fentanyl found in Grand ...

TBI: Fake oxycodone pills contain potentially deadly drug

Authorities warn about increase of deadly drugs surfacing in

U.S. 'Inundated' with Fak...ws Network



These reports are corroborated with the DEA study below (See page 5-6 highlighted in yellow):


Counterfeit Prescription ...bal Threat


9. In 2016, there were 376 total opioid deaths in Minnesota.

10. IN 2016, there were 186 overdose deaths that involved prescription opioids

11. In 2016, there were 142 overdose deaths that involved heroin.

12. None of these deaths were attributed to watson 853/a-349 found at Paisley Park, whether prescribed or illicit narcotics.




Minnesota Opioid Death Reporting

There were threads that were closed that contained information as to how and why the ME would report a death as accidental ,murder, suicide, undetermined, or homicide. I think we have a good handle on it, but there is additional information that has to to be attached to our findings as it relates directly to opiate overdose and cause of death.

What I have found is that all parties who engaged in the highly debated subject matter ,were technically right, albeit missing some valuable information specifially related to opioid death reporting. Nevertheless, an "org." kumbayah moment. I picked out some of the more pertinent parts but the link is there to see at the bottom.

Opioid Overdose Death: Death Reporting

The manner of death, based on the investigation of the circumstances by a coroner or state medical examiner, is determined to be:

  • natural,
  • accidental/unintentional,
  • suicide,
  • homicide, or
  • undetermined.

Circumstances included in the cause of death investigation are:

  • scene findings,
  • autopsy results,
  • toxicology reports, and
  • health history.

In an opioid overdose death, scene findings may include:

  • frothy ‘foam cone’ from the mouth,
  • intact pills in the stomach,
  • needles present at the scene,
  • prescription history,
  • pill counts,
  • needle track marks, or
  • prescription pills at the scene.


Opioid death resulting from prescription



Opioid overdose death resulting from a prescription opioid is usually classified as an accidental or undetermined death. Often there is an assumption that when the death involves prescription medications prescribed to the person who died, that this person was using the prescription medications appropriately, as prescribed, and without risk for overdose. With prescription pain pills, it is difficult to determine if the pills were used as prescribed by the decedent, obtained from family or friends for a pain-related reason, or bought with an intent to get high. If a person dies of a natural cause, for example a heart attack or infectious disease, that death would be categorized as natural, even if prescription opioids are found at the scene or prescribed in the patient’s history. This may contribute to an under-reporting of opioid-related deaths.




Challenging consderations for medical examiners and coroners.


One of the most challenging ethical considerations for medical examiners and coroners is their role in determining intent, or attempting to figure out what a person was trying or not trying to do before they died. There is a substantial amount of variability among medical examiners’ and coroners’ approach to a death investigation. For example, while one medical examiner might determine an overdose death to be an accidental poisoning, another medical examiner would say that it is undetermined because there was no witness, and no way to rule out that it was suicide or homicide. Opioid overdose deaths are most commonly found to be an accidental/unintentional death. Accidental death is operationally defined to be totally unforeseen and unexpected. Some medical examiners or coroners, however, may say that that if heroin was injected in a body, that a resulting death cannot be understood as totally unforeseen and unexpected, therefore, this heroin death may be determined to be a suicide or undetermined. In order for a death to be classified as a suicide, there must be evidence of the intent to die, such as a suicide note found at the scene.


Determining burden of proof

To determine burden of proof, the general guidelines in coroner and state medical examiner’s training state there needs to be:

  • 50% reasonable probability for natural deaths,
  • 70% preponderance of evidence for accidental deaths,
  • 90% clear and convincing evidence for suicide deaths,
  • more than 90% beyond a reasonable doubt for homicide deaths, and
  • 100% beyond a doubt for any cause of death.

  • Some medical examiners would require “beyond a reasonable doubt” or more than 90% certainty in order to determine the burden of proof for a suicide. The amount, detail, and reliability of evidence is limited, sometimes difficult to obtain, and often incomplete.

    Toxicology results are very useful in determining the drug type(s) and dosage; however, they do not measure anything about the user’s tolerance. It is common for findings to be ambiguous in opioid overdose death investigations. For example, the person may have had a history of depression, a history of chronic pain, a past non-fatal overdose with unclear intent, ambiguous residual pill counts, and/or the toxicology results are very high for opioids, but ambiguous for intent.

    All of these factors make interpreting toxicology results and death investigations complex, and subsequently difficult to determine the cause of death with a high degree of certainty.

Although I am not finished with the facts of the warrants, I am finding it increasingly difficult to connect Prince to a drug addict who just wanted to score drugs to get high. The evidence so far, does not support that. This theory is based solely on the basis of the type of pills that were found at his house, coupled with the environmental changes that were taking place nationally and regionally in reference to overdoses.

In addition, it is equally difficult to circumvent the idea that Prince may have had an additional substance at Paisley Park that was not revealed or not found at the time of the search, as in the use of a co-intoxicant that would produce the overdose. IE: fentanyl.

I will follow up with some additional information.


For your records:


Opioid Dashboard


[Edited 11/4/17 19:38pm]

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Reply #138 posted 11/04/17 7:30pm

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Reply #139 posted 11/04/17 9:34pm

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Menes said:

TypoQueen said:

Menes said: Years back Counterfeit drugs got into the NHS chain in UK. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news...h-16760513 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/h...865569.stm

Well, I didn't find any alarming or compelling reports to support that in the U.S., (specifically the Midwest) there was/is a groundswell of "watson 853" counterfeit pills laced with toxic levels of Fentanyl that were/is the cause of mass overdose.

However , there was/is a marked increase in the Midwest in heroin overdsoes that were laced with toxic levels of fentanyl.

Those pills were/are imprinted differently and are still in heavy rotation from regiom to region.

I found one news source in Louisiana (Natchitoches Parish) where the article talks about "numerous" watson 853 pills that contained toxic levels of fentanyl and Alprozalam ( generic Xanax).

Another pill (dubbed the "superpill"), has the imprint,"xanax" and not watson 853.The Midwest was inundated with this pill and was/is the cause of a tremendous amout of overdoses from 2012-present. There are different street names for it from region to region.

Oxycodone copycat pills (laced with toxic doses of fentanyl and imprinted as A215 and not watson 853), is the counterfeit pill that inundated the Midwest and caused tremendous spikes in deaths nation wide from 2012-present. These have been dubbed "roxi" pills but may have different street name from region to region.

It is becoming increasingly difficult to find any conclusive evidence, that pills, namely watson 853, was/is laced with toxic levels of fentanyl and was/is mass distributed nationally, or more precisely ,the Midwest (Minnesota).


* As an aside, we can trace the bulk of pills coming to the Midwest from specific regions and cartels in Mexico . With the correct search , you can find who makes what pill, cotents of the pill, distirbution routes , etc.

Borderland Beat

The million-dollar question is, what was the source of the Fentanyl that killed Prince?

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Reply #140 posted 11/04/17 11:19pm

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ThatWhiteDude said:

Menes said:

June 1st, 2016 Search warrant filed and issued. Some information may overlap with previous posts. This is in relation to additonal Cellular tower Dumps for Sprint.

a. The Affiant , detective, Tyles Stahn received information from interviews that Prince's assistant had arranged between Prince and medical professionals to assess Prince's medical concerns. One of those professionals was Andrew Kornfeld. Kornfeld was at Prince's residence when Prince was found deceased.

b. Kornfeld was found to be in possession of several controlled substances that he did not have a prescription for.

c. During the course of the investigation , investigators learned that Prince had not been heard or seen from since 4-20-2016 around 2000 hours. The Affiant is aware that there is no security or video surveillance and that Prince lived by himself.

d. The investigation reveals that interviews of those who were there when Prince was found that morning, are inconsistent and contradictory at times.

e. The Affiant is aware that friends of Prince who were there were receiving and making phone calls/ text messages on the morning his body was found.

2000 hours? eek

2000 hours means 8:00 p.m.

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Reply #141 posted 11/04/17 11:31pm

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In my heart I think P had cancer. Photos of the last four years of him in succession is all I need to see.

have you given any thought to why people (i.e. his family, close associates) would rather the cause of death be linked to a drug problem than cancer?

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Reply #142 posted 11/04/17 11:40pm

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Strawberrylova123 said:
What i don't understand is if she knew he was going to die within 3 years why did she let him die alone in a elevator [Edited 11/2/17 18:10pm]
Because he wanted to be alone. He sent everyone away and he turned off those cameras. He did just what he wanted to do and do not assume that anything could be done.

So your hypothesis is that not only knew that the pill which was labeled hydrocodone was in fact not hydrocodone and that he also knew it was laced with enough fentanyl to take his own life?

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Reply #143 posted 11/05/17 2:50am

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Twenty hundred hours (20.00) = 8pm.

I was given Odansetron for hyper-emesis gravidarum (non-stop pregnancy sickness) - so it isn't 'just' for cancer patients, although it is frequently prescribed as such.

Im willing to bet my life that Prince wasnt pregnant

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Asenath0607 said:



laurarichardson said:


Strawberrylova123 said:
What i don't understand is if she knew he was going to die within 3 years why did she let him die alone in a elevator [Edited 11/2/17 18:10pm]

Because he wanted to be alone. He sent everyone away and he turned off those cameras. He did just what he wanted to do and do not assume that anything could be done.

So your hypothesis is that not only knew that the pill which was labeled hydrocodone was in fact not hydrocodone and that he also knew it was laced with enough fentanyl to take his own life?


—He had legit hydro pills from Dr. S. Why take the bootleg? Why give everyone the night off and turn off the cameras? Roughly the same concoction that killed him used as the death penalty drug in Nevada. Giving away high sums of money, making a amends to people, doing a tour where he talks about the past, and never being so high that it effective his work habits.
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Menes said:



laurarichardson said:


Menes said:


In continuation of the pills that were found at Paisley Park and taken into custody:

"One (1) orange pill with the inscription #8".

1.This pill appears to be buprenorphine ( a scheduled III substance). It is pirmarily used to treat withdrawals from opiod addiction, but is also used to reduce pain and produce feelings of well being as it binds with the opioid receptors.

2. The brand name for buprenorphine is Subutex.

3. Suboxone is the commercial name for Buprenorphine when combined with Naloxone.

4. Andrew Kornfeld brought Buprenorphine with him for his scheduled visit with Prince on 4-20-16.

Though procured illegally, I think we can ascertain that on its own , or in interaction with the other substances, it is unlikely that this produced lethal toxicity.


Short Summary



So far, we have what appeaear to be the following: A substantial need to increas Vitamain D intake: Which may be the result of a host of issues , to include, but not limited to; dietary inadequacy, impaired absorption and use, increased requirement, limited sun light exposure, kidneys that cannot convert it , digestive tract is inadequate ,and the all of the other things that many of you (LR, Stlmuziqlvr,Dibblekins, Penny) mentioned previously.

I wanted to add that there is precedent and correlation for us to assume that inadequate Vitamin D levels is linked to the amount of narcotic medication for those with chronic pain who are ingesting opioids as they are seeking relief from certain cancer types.

* For your records.

Low Vitamin D Levels Are ...ose in ...



Buprenorphine: A New Treatment Option for Opioid Addiction

Buprenorphine Safety, Adverse Reactions, and Drug Interactions

















—The is interesting as this means he had the Suboxne already before Andrew came and I wondered on this board why he did not just get some to ween himself off which I now think he was trying to do. Perhaps withdrawing on an outpatient basis while dealing with other issues. It is the only thing that explains how he was able to get around. [Edited 11/3/17 16:43pm]

Let's keep in mind that even with the ondanestron, there was no prescription for it. Let's think about that for a second. Zofran is not in the least bit a popular drug on the street that dealers are distributing. If you don't have a prescription for that, you either have access to a pill mill (domestic or foreign), or, have someone on the inside to get it for you ( as in a doctor or pharmacist).

A lot of these drugs may not have been bought from "off the street". Just look at the way that bottle ended up in Kirk's name yet , with no prescription. It is as if someone intentionally orchestrated that.


No, the anti nausea drug was written for him by Dr.S Under Kirk’s name to protect Prince’s privacy. Dr.S admitted he wrote 3 Rxs for Prince under an assumed name to protect his privacy and I am certain Prince was probably having this done the whole of his life.
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Menes said:

Just wanted to say that I took away for these reports (coupled wth some other reports that I have) a strong sense of pain that was undeniable, and in no uncertaing terms , pointing to the end of the road.

The "don't ask, dont tell" choir is quite apparent and is indicative of the type of person he was.

There is one central figure in this story (besides Prince)whom the investigators certainly focused on very early on.

I do not believe that the amount of pills found are an indication of relief for merely "hip pain" or, that they soley represent addiction . Rather, that there was a more serious underlying illness, coupled with other ailments that compounded the problem of addiction. This cascading narrative inevitably was going to lead to a full disclosure of everything that was once guarded and impenetrable.

Accidental or not, I don't think he was in a very good space regardless of what he had planned for the future and he knew that.


For your records:


In Re: The Investigation into the Death of Prince Rogers Nelson



Memes, I think you have made a very fair, reasonable assessment here, and I very much agree with it.
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It is so sad that Prince was unwilling to seek treatment in a timely manner. I think his pride may have got the best of him in this situation (referring to the health issues and/or painkiller abuse).

No point in seeking help if you have a terminal illness.
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Asenath0607 said:



Tresha68 said:


In my heart I think P had cancer. Photos of the last four years of him in succession is all I need to see.


have you given any thought to why people (i.e. his family, close associates) would rather the cause of death be linked to a drug problem than cancer?


Because he was a private person and they are respecting that. He also probably told very few people what was going at the time and he may have left instructions to keep the info quiet until a certain time. I do not think he planned to have an overdose on the plane and if he had not had it none of this speculation would have started in the first place.
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Everytime people question the idea that P's family would want to hide a diease, my mind drifts not to cancer, but to AIDS. I still wonder to this day what celebrity that blind item was about.

It could also be they don't want folks to know that the drug addiction was long enough to cause liver problems.

Or it could be that P was a sufferer of pain and drug dependency.

Asenath0607 said:

Tresha68 said:

In my heart I think P had cancer. Photos of the last four years of him in succession is all I need to see.

have you given any thought to why people (i.e. his family, close associates) would rather the cause of death be linked to a drug problem than cancer?

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Everytime people question the idea that P's family would want to hide a diease, my mind drifts not to cancer, but to AIDS. I still wonder to this day what celebrity that blind item was about.

It could also be they don't want folks to know that the drug addiction was long enough to cause liver problems.

Or it could be that P was a sufferer of pain and drug dependency.

Asenath0607 said:

have you given any thought to why people (i.e. his family, close associates) would rather the cause of death be linked to a drug problem than cancer?

This is such a tangled web we may never get closure.

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