fortuneandserendipity said:

laurarichardson said:

We already knew he was quiet and shy off stage. So that is not new

information and has nothing to do with drug use. Neal is the asshole who

maybe 3 or 4 months before Prince died did an interview were he totally

slammed him. After Prince died he was crying and he suppose to be

writing a book. Is this someone you take seriously?

None of those people are telling us things we do not know already. None

are telling us anything about drugs. Estates cannot sue for defamation so

what is stopping them?

We know Prince was talking drugs. No one said he was not taking them.

Why do you keep making this statement as if you are the only person on

the earth who knows this but keeps ignoring the reason why?

He used Kirk to get drugs from Dr. S. Don't you think he would have used

other names over the years to get meds to protect his privacy which is

exactly what Dr. S said he was doing.

Prince also could have gone out of the U.S. to get anything he wanted or

to see doctors.

He had surgery so we know he had pain pills prescribed to him and by this

time the police have pulled his medical records. I honestly think that is the

reason Dr. S is not in any trouble.

You have been told numerous times that he had other health issues.

Your argument basically boils down to this:

'There's no evidence P had a long-term opiate issue. So therefore the underlying cause of all his physical health issues was something life-threatening or borderline that. The opiates, they were merely a coping mechanism'.

You have to acknowledge most people wouldn't agree with that: Rather, no other health issues but bone pain and withdrawal.

You really need to post that evidence some time, somewhere... Because otherwise you lose all credibility, and you'll just continue burying your head in the sand.

fortuneandserendipity said:

laurarichardson said:

We already knew he was quiet and shy off stage. So that is not new

information and has nothing to do with drug use. Neal is the asshole who

maybe 3 or 4 months before Prince died did an interview were he totally

slammed him. After Prince died he was crying and he suppose to be

writing a book. Is this someone you take seriously?

None of those people are telling us things we do not know already. None

are telling us anything about drugs. Estates cannot sue for defamation so

what is stopping them?

We know Prince was talking drugs. No one said he was not taking them.

Why do you keep making this statement as if you are the only person on

the earth who knows this but keeps ignoring the reason why?

He used Kirk to get drugs from Dr. S. Don't you think he would have used

other names over the years to get meds to protect his privacy which is

exactly what Dr. S said he was doing.

Prince also could have gone out of the U.S. to get anything he wanted or

to see doctors.

He had surgery so we know he had pain pills prescribed to him and by this

time the police have pulled his medical records. I honestly think that is the

reason Dr. S is not in any trouble.

You have been told numerous times that he had other health issues.

Your argument basically boils down to this:

'There's no evidence P had a long-term opiate issue. So therefore the underlying cause of all his physical health issues was something life-threatening or borderline that. The opiates, they were merely a coping mechanism'.

You have to acknowledge most people wouldn't agree with that: Rather, no other health issues but bone pain and withdrawal.

You really need to post that evidence some time, somewhere... Because otherwise you lose all credibility, and you'll just continue burying your head in the sand.

There is no evidence that Prince was abusing to pain pills for 20 or 30 years. I have no evidence and you have no evidence. It does not exsist.

The lack of evidence has nothing to do with whatever health issues he had. People get old and people get sick. He was no different then anyone else.

If he had what I am told he had yes any opiates he was using after a diagnois would have been for coping for pain. There is nothing fantascical about what I am stating many people have more then one health issues and pain meds are needed. ( I do not think there was anything wrong with him taking pain meds off the books if he just had joint pain) Who the hell is going to walk around in pain? If he was doing that he was obvisouly not addicted to them until things changed with the his healh.

I do not have to put up evidence of anything and I already explained the reason. It will all come out sooner or later. It is not the big deal you are making it out to be. Plenty of people make end of life quality decisions. The super rich do not do what ordinary folks do because they do not have to.

Seem like this is to much for you to grasp.

laurarichardson said:

There is no evidence that Prince was abusing to pain pills for 20 or 30 years. I have no evidence and you have no evidence. It does not exsist.

The lack of evidence has nothing to do with whatever health issues he had. People get old and people get sick. He was no different then anyone else.

If he had what I am told he had yes any opiates he was using after a diagnois would have been for coping for pain. There is nothing fantascical about what I am stating many people have more then one health issues and pain meds are needed. ( I do not think there was anything wrong with him taking pain meds off the books if he just had joint pain) Who the hell is going to walk around in pain? If he was doing that he was obvisouly not addicted to them until things changed with the his healh.

I do not have to put up evidence of anything and I already explained the reason. It will all come out sooner or later. It is not the big deal you are making it out to be. Plenty of people make end of life quality decisions. The super rich do not do what ordinary folks do because they do not have to.

Seem like this is to much for you to grasp.

Completely agree with you, Laura - can't prove a negative because you can't prove something doesn't exist or you didn't do something. I believe that he experimented with drugs and drank here and there, but not to the point of abuse (or for years) and only as a coping mechanism when all else failed. Over his lifetime, he carried an enormous amount of pressure and was responsible for the livelihood of many people. That said, suicide is off the table for me. There was no way he could have known how much fentanyl was in the opiods he took. Your statement about him writing an autobiography because he wasn't "planning on coming back from rehab" would indicate that he was in the last stage of whatever he had. Suffering is not mandatory. Whatever and however he chose to deal with it, I respect. Those were his choices to make.

Misslink88 said:

laurarichardson said:

There is no evidence that Prince was abusing to pain pills for 20 or 30 years. I have no evidence and you have no evidence. It does not exsist.

The lack of evidence has nothing to do with whatever health issues he had. People get old and people get sick. He was no different then anyone else.

If he had what I am told he had yes any opiates he was using after a diagnois would have been for coping for pain. There is nothing fantascical about what I am stating many people have more then one health issues and pain meds are needed. ( I do not think there was anything wrong with him taking pain meds off the books if he just had joint pain) Who the hell is going to walk around in pain? If he was doing that he was obvisouly not addicted to them until things changed with the his healh.

I do not have to put up evidence of anything and I already explained the reason. It will all come out sooner or later. It is not the big deal you are making it out to be. Plenty of people make end of life quality decisions. The super rich do not do what ordinary folks do because they do not have to.

Seem like this is to much for you to grasp.

Completely agree with you, Laura - can't prove a negative because you can't prove something doesn't exist or you didn't do something. I believe that he experimented with drugs and drank here and there, but not to the point of abuse (or for years) and only as a coping mechanism when all else failed. Over his lifetime, he carried an enormous amount of pressure and was responsible for the livelihood of many people. That said, suicide is off the table for me. There was no way he could have known how much fentanyl was in the opiods he took. Your statement about him writing an autobiography because he wasn't "planning on coming back from rehab" would indicate that he was in the last stage of whatever he had. Suffering is not mandatory. Whatever and however he chose to deal with it, I respect. Those were his choices to make.

Co-sign

laurarichardson said:

It is not ethical to post private e-mails, screenshots and Facebook post. So the evidence is not going to posted on this board.

People with integrity understand this easily

Laura is not the only person who posts here on the org who knows these things. There are MANY others here, on FB, on Twitter, etc....who also know because they also saw/heard the same. But every single word she wrote above is true and it doesn't matter who does or doesn't like that, it's the way it is.

laurarichardson said:

No it would not be easy to do and in the end I would still be posting a personal message not a message from an open forum. The fact that you think this is okay speaks volumes about you and even if this info was posted you will not believe it anyway. You have your mind made up that he was some super human who could not have been using these drugs due to serious illness on top of joint pain. Ingnoring piles of known information that is to vast to be conicendental.

I know it is hard to believe but some people are fine with accepting their fate and avoiding medical intervention for terminal illness. Not everybody seeks medical care for end of life health issues.

No known doctors or Rxs means privacy and diginity. This is very important to some people.

The man who never looked back was writing an autobiograpy because he was not planning on returning from a trip to rehab.

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[Edited 12/29/17 7:26am]

Correct yet again. All of it.

laurarichardson said:

Misslink88 said:

Completely agree with you, Laura - can't prove a negative because you can't prove something doesn't exist or you didn't do something. I believe that he experimented with drugs and drank here and there, but not to the point of abuse (or for years) and only as a coping mechanism when all else failed. Over his lifetime, he carried an enormous amount of pressure and was responsible for the livelihood of many people. That said, suicide is off the table for me. There was no way he could have known how much fentanyl was in the opiods he took.

Your statement about him writing an autobiography because he wasn't "planning on coming back from rehab" would indicate that he was in the last stage of whatever he had. Suffering is not mandatory. Whatever and however he chose to deal with it, I respect. Those were his choices to make.

Co-sign

Yes, agreed.

Mumio said:

laurarichardson said:

It is not ethical to post private e-mails, screenshots and Facebook post. So the evidence is not going to posted on this board.

People with integrity understand this easily

Laura is not the only person who posts here on the org who knows these things. There are MANY others here, on FB, on Twitter, etc....who also know because they also saw/heard the same. But every single word she wrote above is true and it doesn't matter who does or doesn't like that, it's the way it is.

More cryptic mumbo jumbo. Saw/heard from whom? You might think with 'MANY others on FB, twitter' knowing about this info, someone would post it here. Surely if it's unequivocal, we would all know about it by now! No?

And you think I don't have integrity? Jeez. Enough of the riddle speak. You clearly have no idea who you're talking about. But anyway let's assume laura has integrity! That's the same laura who occasionally changes her mind about something, but doesn't give credit to the person saying it in the first instance, and yet at same time copies their words. The same laura who jumps on anyone so much as hinting at possible long term drug use.

Lest anyone forgets, she's the org's resident drug expert. Who knows exactly what drugs do to people. Because her observational powers are that great! Really?

Mumio said:

laurarichardson said:

No it would not be easy to do and in the end I would still be posting a personal message not a message from an open forum. The fact that you think this is okay speaks volumes about you and even if this info was posted you will not believe it anyway. You have your mind made up that he was some super human who could not have been using these drugs due to serious illness on top of joint pain. Ingnoring piles of known information that is to vast to be conicendental.

I know it is hard to believe but some people are fine with accepting their fate and avoiding medical intervention for terminal illness. Not everybody seeks medical care for end of life health issues.

No known doctors or Rxs means privacy and diginity. This is very important to some people.

The man who never looked back was writing an autobiograpy because he was not planning on returning from a trip to rehab.

[Edited 12/29/17 7:25am]

[Edited 12/29/17 7:26am]

Correct yet again. All of it.

Put down the bottle. Your pseudo hipster style isn't cutting it

Misslink88 said:

laurarichardson said:

There is no evidence that Prince was abusing to pain pills for 20 or 30 years. I have no evidence and you have no evidence. It does not exsist.

The lack of evidence has nothing to do with whatever health issues he had. People get old and people get sick. He was no different then anyone else.

If he had what I am told he had yes any opiates he was using after a diagnois would have been for coping for pain. There is nothing fantascical about what I am stating many people have more then one health issues and pain meds are needed. ( I do not think there was anything wrong with him taking pain meds off the books if he just had joint pain) Who the hell is going to walk around in pain? If he was doing that he was obvisouly not addicted to them until things changed with the his healh.

I do not have to put up evidence of anything and I already explained the reason. It will all come out sooner or later. It is not the big deal you are making it out to be. Plenty of people make end of life quality decisions. The super rich do not do what ordinary folks do because they do not have to.

Seem like this is to much for you to grasp.

Completely agree with you, Laura - can't prove a negative because you can't prove something doesn't exist or you didn't do something. I believe that he experimented with drugs and drank here and there, but not to the point of abuse (or for years) and only as a coping mechanism when all else failed. Over his lifetime, he carried an enormous amount of pressure and was responsible for the livelihood of many people. That said, suicide is off the table for me. There was no way he could have known how much fentanyl was in the opiods he took. Your statement about him writing an autobiography because he wasn't "planning on coming back from rehab" would indicate that he was in the last stage of whatever he had. Suffering is not mandatory. Whatever and however he chose to deal with it, I respect. Those were his choices to make.

AGREE

fortuneandserendipity said:

Mumio said:

People with integrity understand this easily

Laura is not the only person who posts here on the org who knows these things. There are MANY others here, on FB, on Twitter, etc....who also know because they also saw/heard the same. But every single word she wrote above is true and it doesn't matter who does or doesn't like that, it's the way it is.

More cryptic mumbo jumbo. Saw/heard from whom? You might think with 'MANY others on FB, twitter' knowing about this info, someone would post it here. Surely if it's unequivocal, we would all know about it by now! No?

And you think I don't have integrity? Jeez. Enough of the riddle speak. You clearly have no idea who you're talking about. But anyway let's assume laura has integrity! That's the same laura who occasionally changes her mind about something, but doesn't give credit to the person saying it in the first instance, and yet at same time copies their words. The same laura who jumps on anyone so much as hinting at possible long term drug use.

Lest anyone forgets, she's the org's resident drug expert. Who knows exactly what drugs do to people. Because her observational powers are that great! Really?

No one is going to repeat the reasons we are not giving up our sources. You understand why or you just don't get it.

You are rambling all over the place and do not even understand that most people in fan communinty do not take this board seriously anymore so no one would come on this board and post anything about the cause of his death. Even if they did the censorship crazy mods would delete it.

I recently found out the gold lady came on this board a while back and confirmed his health issues and got banned from the board.

fortuneandserendipity said:

Mumio said:

Correct yet again. All of it.

Put down the bottle. Your pseudo hipster style isn't cutting it

Try not to cry too hard about it.

Strawberrylova123 said:

Had a convo with someone close to the prince inner circle, prince did have cancer!!!

.

Need confirmation first, but this is interesting.

Questions that follow:

Where was the tumor?

Since when did he know he had this?

This could (!) explain the opioids partly: if he really had cancer in certain areas, he could have gotten prescriptions for painkillers.

So either he had this for a while and/or this case was not deemed severe enough for prescription opioids yet still an obstacle for his everyday life...

udo said:

Pancreatic cancer - Sympt...ayo Clinic

[Edited 12/30/17 7:17am]

Strawberrylova123 said:

Pancreatic cancer - Sympt...ayo Clinic

[Edited 12/30/17 7:17am]

maybe someone finally told Elisa the truth

Strawberrylova123 said:

Strawberrylova123 said:

Pancreatic cancer - Sympt...ayo Clinic

[Edited 12/30/17 7:17am]

I did, yes. It's not news to a lot of people. I'm hoping Tyka goes ahead and reveals a few things. She should. It's time.

My best friend's mother died from lung cancer. She was 70. Didn't smoke or drink a day in her life. All those things cause cancer, yes, but cancer is also caused by a number of other factors like air pollution or gene mutation. You can take care of your teeth all you want and should but cavities are created by more than poor dental hygiene. Fatty foods cause blockages and heart attacks but you can eat only fresh fruits and veggies and still get heart disease. The body isn't fort Knox. Do a little research on pancreatic cancer and stars who lost that battle. The important key here is there is no battle to win with pancreatic cancer. Patrick Swayze held on the longest. Do you guys think Prince wanted to be hooked up to tubes? Wheelchair bound? Need someone to feed him, bathe him, change his diapers? Think about it. Abigail needs to STOP and leave fans alone. We're all hurting enough without her making up lies and creating more drama

Strawberrylova123 said:

Strawberrylova123 said:

Strawberrylova123 said:

Pancreatic cancer - Sympt...ayo Clinic

[Edited 12/30/17 7:17am]

THIS would make sense, especially of his last weeks and the digestive issues that were spoken about and the "yellowing" of his skin that some people have mentioned. No onset of symptoms until the last stages as well. Thank you.

OK, so now we have; leukemia, pancreatic cancer, AIDS/HIV, epilepsy, accidental OD, suicide by OD.

Did I miss anything?

PennyPurple said:

OK, so now we have; leukemia, pancreatic cancer, AIDS/HIV, epilepsy, accidental OD, suicide by OD.

Did I miss anything?

You forgot that he got murdered or probably even faked it all

Not long after Rock Hudson was outed as suffering from AIDS, my hairdresser explained that he had a pharmacist friend working in LA (West Hollywood) and that I would be shocked to learn the names of the celebrities who were taking AIDS meds.

He was stunned when I told him that the medical issues of others, famous or not, were none of my business, and that I thought that his friend should be sanctioned...

Sadly, I'm certain that this type of spying goes on in spite of more stringent HIPPA regs because someone is supplying the rags with salacious stories. Remember those photos of Patrick Swayze in a wheelchair on his way to treatment...there's a special place in Hell for people that disrespect another to that degree.

The fear of being "found out" could cause someone who is painfully private to seek meds from another source because a steady refill schedule of opiods could cause the unethical ones to dig for more information. Just an opinion.

As for pancreatic cancer, it is said to be one of the most painful; my mother and uncle (her brother) both died from it and I feared that this might be a problem for Prince. If this is what he was struggling with, I take comfort in believing that he is safe with the God and he loved and served.

udo said:

Strawberrylova123 said:

Had a convo with someone close to the prince inner circle, prince did have cancer!!!

.

Need confirmation first, but this is interesting.

Questions that follow:

Where was the tumor?

Since when did he know he had this?

This could (!) explain the opioids partly: if he really had cancer in certain areas, he could have gotten prescriptions for painkillers.

So either he had this for a while and/or this case was not deemed severe enough for prescription opioids yet still an obstacle for his everyday life...

Nuernberg72 said:

Strawberrylova123 said:

I'm not going to reveal who said this but I'm very happy that people are speaking out

Nobody with eyes in his head, has ever believed in the drug Story!

I for one didn't believe that he was a drug or opiate addict. He had a clean living, he paid attention to smallest details in everything, I don't buy any claim that he was careless with his health.

In early 2016 he looked truly sick, I mean cancer sick. It was his choice to go down with painkillers. He could have gone like Steve Jobs or Patrick Swayze looking thinner and thinner everyday but he chose not to.

It can have something to do with keeping up his general image (the way he looked mattered to him a lot) but then again, who knows.

Anyway, the pills he took are given to terminally ill cancer patients when the cancer cells start to attack the nerve cells and cause unimaginable pain.

pyramidseye said:

Nuernberg72 said:

Great. Now I'm starting to think about chemotherapy and afro wigs.
That would make him even more heroic to my eyes, if possible.
Then again maybe I'm just eager for an answer,
and this razor looks like the sharpest one to me.

Strawberrylova123 said: