I do not know. I have been thinking about it since Menes brought it up. I keep thinking he had some doctor helping him with his withdrawal or at least he knew what he needed for a withdrawal.

PennyPurple said:

Wonder where he would've got that at?

https://www.drugs.com/imp...10811.html

laurarichardson said:

Thank you he did not need Andrew to bring anything to him he already had it.

sonshine said:

You would think that the stuff listed on the warrant would have exact details, what we are finding out is, it isn't exact. Maybe the PD has mixed things up and made some mistakes??

PennyPurple said:

You would think that the stuff listed on the warrant would have exact details, what we are finding out is, it isn't exact. Maybe the PD has mixed things up and made some mistakes??

The detectives are not pharmacologists. They are just writing down the description of the pills.

PennyPurple said:

PennyPurple said:

You would think that the stuff listed on the warrant would have exact details, what we are finding out is, it isn't exact. Maybe the PD has mixed things up and made some mistakes??

The warrant is thrown together and while I am not Shakesphere it does seem very unprofessional. They could have made mistakes.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

PennyPurple said:

You would think that the stuff listed on the warrant would have exact details, what we are finding out is, it isn't exact. Maybe the PD has mixed things up and made some mistakes??

The detectives are not pharmacologists. They are just writing down the description of the pills.

But as we can tell they didn't do that very well, when all they wrote was 1 orange pill with number 8 on it. And who really got those watson pills misnumbered, the PD or the press?

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

purplefam99 said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

The detectives are not pharmacologists. They are just writing down the description of the pills.

And yet they could not take the time to put N8, or include the shape of pill On every entry. They should leave no room for doubt. If that was my sole job and esp if I’m not a pharmacologist You better believe I’m gonna note the size and shape color and exact numbering on The pills in every entry. [Edited 12/27/17 12:22pm]

They were sloppy as I think they thought this was an open and shut case. Well almost two years later and it is still open.

purplefam99 said:

PennyPurple said:

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

You would think that the stuff listed on the warrant would have exact details, what we are finding out is, it isn't exact. Maybe the PD has mixed things up and made some mistakes??

The warrant is thrown together and while I am not Shakesphere it does seem very unprofessional. They could have made mistakes.

Do you mean Sherlock?

sonshine said:

purplefam99 said:

So drugs crisscross in numbering, but it is the shape and color that Differentiates??

There isn't really a uniform rhyme or reason to it. The individual drug companies come up with there own system of identiying the pills that are unique to them. So in reply to your origonal question the N i guess could stand for # but not necessarily. The shape and color are important in the description too but individual features don't necessarily correlate to anything other than what the manufacturer uses as a means for identification. If that makes sense?

wow!! oh man that is really willy nilly. thanks for the info.

PennyPurple said:

You would think that the stuff listed on the warrant would have exact details, what we are finding out is, it isn't exact. Maybe the PD has mixed things up and made some mistakes??

I don't think they were writing with Prince fans in mind. There's enough detail so stuff doesn't just disappear without knowledge of existance.

morningsong said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

purplefam99 said:

laurarichardson said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

Do you mean Sherlock?

—Again adding nothing to the topic. Adults are at work move to the playroom.

Okay, but then U should learn adult language before you want to work with the other adults Laura. You're making a fool of yourself when you write ShakeSPHERE (it's Shakespeare by the way), when you actually meant Sherlock. Well, just wanted to point it out that you can correct it before somebody sees the mistake and laughs at you. Okay, Okay, I'm gonna go to the playroom now and I'm gonna have one hell of a fun while laughing at you ShakeSPHERE.

ThatWhiteDude said:

laurarichardson said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

Okay, but then U should learn adult language before you want to work with the other adults Laura. You're making a fool of yourself when you write ShakeSPHERE (it's Shakespeare by the way), when you actually meant Sherlock. Well, just wanted to point it out that you can correct it before somebody sees the mistake and laughs at you. Okay, Okay, I'm gonna go to the playroom now and I'm gonna have one hell of a fun while laughing at you ShakeSPHERE.

I am typing on my phone and I do not give a fuck. Do you think anyone else cares? I hope you laugh away from this topic so I do not have to report you for derailing the topic and trying to get it closed. Move on if you have nothing to add. What you are doing is tired and old.

I'm not trying to get this thread locked.

The more I read into this thread, the more I believe that Prince really was only going through withdraws and it ended like it did in 2016. Maybe it was really homicide, somebody gave him the illicit drugs.

I don't think it was suicide......the more I'm going through the search warrant, the lesser the chance he did it. It sounds more like he got hooked on them pills.

ThatWhiteDude said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

laurarichardson said:

The warrant is thrown together and while I am not Shakesphere it does seem very unprofessional. They could have made mistakes.

Do you mean Sherlock?

It's amazing how even her typos manage to irritate. It's like she does it on purpose. I'm sick of seeing Shakesphere, Orince instead of Prince, and tread not thread

never mind if he was a raging junkie....focus on why he would take illegal pills? he didnt know they were "those" ...kirk probably made the mistake

laurarichardson said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

The more I read into this thread, the more I believe that Prince really was only going through withdraws and it ended like it did in 2016. Maybe it was really homicide, somebody gave him the illicit drugs.

I don't think it was suicide......the more I'm going through the search warrant, the lesser the chance he did it. It sounds more like he got hooked on them pills.

—-It appears that he was trying to get unhooked. We just do know if he took his own life or if someone slipped him bad pills which may not have been on purpose. I just cannot imagine if someone he knew screwed up how they are managing to hold it together. It would seem almost impossible for someone to do that and not snap.

But what's important to know is, if he took only one pill (Because he didn't know that they contained fentanyl), suicide isn't possible. You don't kill yourself with one pill. How many pills did he take? I think he took one because they would've found some more in his stomach if he killed himself.

Did they find pills in his stomach? And if they did, was it one, or two? Or more?

I'm not going to respond to LR's previous post because I know it will be a waste of time trying to bulldoze a block of granite surrounded by concrete. But I will make this clear - and from time to time no doubt have to reiterate:

If your doctor gives you opiate medication and you have been taking the treatment as prescribed for 4+ weeks, then your body is physiologically addicted to the drug. Which means, by necessity, that person's brain is psychologically addicted to the drug, in spite of any pain issues. It's not even a matter of willpower. The body will crave it, and so will the person's mind.

To clarify, there are people on this very site who have related in their own candid experience how they have to be careful with prescription opiates, making sure that they neither take too little (as in stop taking it) or up the dose and go too far. They recognise as well that they feel more calm and happier on the drug than not taking it - aside from any pain - because that's what opiates do: they engage your opiate receptors 'on tap' as it were, so you don't have to put yourself in a relaxed state in order to activate the opiate receptors.

(Ever wondered why meditation or the so-called placebo effect helps with pain?) I hope that's transparent enough- even to someone whose brain resembles molten tar.

fortuneandserendipity said:

I'm not going to respond to LR's previous post because I know it will be a waste of time trying to bulldoze a block of granite surrounded by concrete. But I will make this clear - and from time to time no doubt have to reiterate:

If your doctor gives you opiate medication and you have been taking the treatment as prescribed for 4+ weeks, then your body is physiologically addicted to the drug. Which means, by necessity, that person's brain is psychologically addicted to the drug, in spite of any pain issues. It's not even a matter of willpower. The body will crave it, and so will the person's mind.

To clarify, there are people on this very site who have related in their own candid experience how they have to be careful with prescription opiates, making sure that they neither take too little (as in stop taking it) or up the dose and go too far. They recognise as well that they feel more calm and happier on the drug than not taking it - aside from any pain - because that's what opiates do: they engage your opiate receptors 'on tap' as it were, so you don't have to put yourself in a relaxed state in order to activate the opiate receptors.

(Ever wondered why meditation or the so-called placebo effect helps with pain?) I hope that's transparent enough- even to someone whose brain resembles molten tar.

All of this. It's funny people even get addicted to their phones but some folks here doubt that you can easily get addicted to opiates.

[Edited 12/27/17 17:23pm]

Mumio said:

It's really unfortunate that Menes has abandoned the thread

He got disappointed i think when he saw that his thread had been derailed by the usual nonsense and conjecture

purplefam99 said:

morningsong said:

I don't think they were writing with Prince fans in mind. There's enough detail so stuff doesn't just disappear without knowledge of existance.

Ahhhh so they wrote the items just as logged information (laundry list style) Not really for figuring out exactly what someone may have Died from.

Just enough to write down what they removed from the premises and where it was. To investigate fully all they would need to do is go back to the evidence locker(or whatever) and see exactly what it was. The warrants though public aren't written to explain anything step-by-step to us regular folks. Note most the others repeat what was said before, and give just enough information to justify being issued a warrant in the first place.

ThatWhiteDude said: