Menes said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

The alleged tox report was never picked up by any other news agencies.

I dont even think the Star Tribune ran this story, did it?

A "source" leaked partial information from the supposed toxicology report in question to the Star Tribune. It is not clear if they got the information first hand ( as in they saw the actual report) or just repeated what a "source" was told.

What is interesting is that that story in the Tribune was printed a mere 7 days after Prince was deceased which would mean that if true, she (ME) did a full spectrum toxicology report and that revealed the presence of several other drugs not reportedly found at PP per the warrants. What would also be alarming is if what the "source" leaked, could be confirmed. When you combine what was found in the warrants in conjunction with what was leaked from the supposed broad spectrum toxicology report, it paints a very disturbing and tragic picture.

However, let's also remember that this same source told the Tribune that Prince had his clothes on backwards and that it appears he was dead for at least 6 hours. This last part could be of importance because by my calculation of the Fentanyl laced pills that were in circulation, his time of death would have happened within minutes of ingestion. If you apply the mathematical layout of PP, you would just stop typing and stare at the results...

Again, its a leak, nothing was confirmed because the warrants were sealed.

For your records.

Fentanyl pills seized from Paisley Park were mislabeled - StarTribune ...


Drug screening test can d... urine ...

This is the part that also bothers me. The tox reports (leaked or otherwise) only reveal the levels found in his system and not the amount ingested. The long form would have the stomach contents in it and hair samples would indicate whether or not he was a long time user (approx. 90 days). However, the liver content is confusing if death occurred within minutes. There wouldn't be time for it to metabolize so quickly.

laurarichardson said:

Susu1976 said:

laurarichardson said: Ermm, what part of Federal law do I not understand according to you?!? ANDREW KORNFELD NEWER GAVE PRINCE ANYTHING so stop the shoulda woulda coulda. Yes, I am an expert in pharmacology and damn proud of it, thank you. What stuff did I make up? Please, list them or like I already said STFU. When I brought up intent it was as in Andrew Kornfeld's obvious intent was to get Prince into path of detox. Understanding context doesn't seem to be your strength, neither is reading comprehension, rational and critical thinking, logic....ugh I give up. The list is too long. Speaking of resident expert, haven't you crowned yourself all things ever discussed in this forum as nobody is ever correct except you? Anyway, like I said I am not going at this back and forth with an idiot like you. There are so many intelligent posters in t!his forum to converse with. You are not one of them and not worth my time.

1) You do not understand that Andrew is not a doctor and had controlled substances in his possession and brought them across states line.

2) Andrew broke the law and his intent means nothing.

3) The police even inform of the law he has broken in the search warrant.

4) You are an expert in pharmacology but ignorant concerning the laws that govern who can have possession of these drugs and administer them.

5) You are making Andrew’s intent because you do not know his intent and neither to do I. We both know he broke the law and his intent means nothing.

6) I have never said I am right and everybody else is wrong so once again you are making something up that is not true to try and make some point.

7) Only unintelligent people ignore facts like you have decided to do

A) Andrew breaking the law no matter what his intent was

B) Illegality of bringing controlled substances across state lines.

C) The background information on Dr K which is bad

D) The fact that Andrew and Dr. K were not needed since Hazelton was down the street.

1. Knock off your name calling before I report your ass.

Your spelling and sentence structures have improved immensely, Laura. You are receptive to change and appear to be thinking before you type. Eventually, you will start applying science and logic to your post and combine those with your raw emotional intelligence. Who knows what might come of that.

morningsong said:

Not sure what urine test have to do with gastric test but okay. I keep ending up exactly where I ended up a long time ago.

Maybe if you approached what you wish to conclude, differently, you might not be chasing your own tail.

Menes said:

paulludvig said:

Can you be more specific as to the two sentences I have bolded?

No. Not in detail. I will not do that. I don't mean to be rude or short with my response but that will take us on a serious detour . Since I seem to be the only person calculating , and recalculating, I think it would be unfair to qualify anything like that at this time. I know we want the most salacious thing we can find to be posted. This is why I am careful with the leaks.

I will leave you with these thoughts...You can't possibly read these leaks from "sources close to the investigation" and not conclude that this was a person who was in very very deep. You cannot read the leaks and not be flabbergasted by the amount of energy and planning it took to conceal all that you see. It would be indefensible. In essence , denial of the tallest order. Proceed with caution when reading these things lest your darkest thoughts become a reality.

*If you look for the perfect answer in any of my post, you will never be content. Time reveals all.

I am a little slow. Has it ever been released what floor the elevator was on? Initialy, I was under the thought process Prince was dropped of at PP at 8pm. Did whatever he normally does (recording, writing, whatever). On his way upstairs maybe, pops a pill to alleviate pain and the rest is known.

I speculate that because from my understanding, he wears pajamas. So, had he been resting or sleeping or in the living quarters, he may have changed.

I do not believe there was a conspiracy, just an unfortunate incident.

I enjoy your posts and inputs, but I am struggling with my comprehension of what you are saying. That is me, my end, nothing you have done.

Misslink88 said:

Menes said:

A "source" leaked partial information from the supposed toxicology report in question to the Star Tribune. It is not clear if they got the information first hand ( as in they saw the actual report) or just repeated what a "source" was told.

What is interesting is that that story in the Tribune was printed a mere 7 days after Prince was deceased which would mean that if true, she (ME) did a full spectrum toxicology report and that revealed the presence of several other drugs not reportedly found at PP per the warrants. What would also be alarming is if what the "source" leaked, could be confirmed. When you combine what was found in the warrants in conjunction with what was leaked from the supposed broad spectrum toxicology report, it paints a very disturbing and tragic picture.

However, let's also remember that this same source told the Tribune that Prince had his clothes on backwards and that it appears he was dead for at least 6 hours. This last part could be of importance because by my calculation of the Fentanyl laced pills that were in circulation, his time of death would have happened within minutes of ingestion. If you apply the mathematical layout of PP, you would just stop typing and stare at the results...

Again, its a leak, nothing was confirmed because the warrants were sealed.

For your records.

Fentanyl pills seized from Paisley Park were mislabeled - StarTribune ...


Drug screening test can d... urine ...

This is the part that also bothers me. The tox reports (leaked or otherwise) only reveal the levels found in his system and not the amount ingested. The long form would have the stomach contents in it and hair samples would indicate whether or not he was a long time user (approx. 90 days). However, the liver content is confusing if death occurred within minutes. There wouldn't be time for it to metabolize so quickly.

Are you aware of how to extract information from said "drug" and how it would coincide with a postmortem toxicology report? You should start there.

laurarichardson said:

Menes said:

Easy there, Susu. lol . But you are 100% correct. It's self-explanatory. More specifcally, when you understand why the term is even used to determine cause of death. It is a no brainer.

Some of you think you know so much. I have seen screen shots from people who worked for Prince who said he told them to get their stuff out of Paisley Park because they might not be able to get their stuff out later. His sister is telling you she knew ahead of time based on an e-mail he sent her, Someone perhaps Pheadra may have had POA to sign docs for him, he had widdled his staff down to 2 people, and he sent everyone away and made sure the security cams were turned off.

He could have very well have known what was in the those pills or just decided to roll the dice and take as many as possible. None of the things I mentioned would have any bearing on the ME decision on calling his death accidental but there is enough information to make it plausible to appear to have been a sucidial effort.

The suicide angle does seem plausible in some respects. I've seen material from insiders that would indicate he was somehow preparing people but then the question of leaving no will comes in. Possibly he didn't care but his meticulousness in everything else doesn't really support it; possibly he was terminally ill and chose his own time. As I mentioned about the levels in his system in another post, the tox report only gives the amounts but not the quantity ingested.

Menes said:

Misslink88 said:

This is the part that also bothers me. The tox reports (leaked or otherwise) only reveal the levels found in his system and not the amount ingested. The long form would have the stomach contents in it and hair samples would indicate whether or not he was a long time user (approx. 90 days). However, the liver content is confusing if death occurred within minutes. There wouldn't be time for it to metabolize so quickly.

Are you aware of how to extract information from said "drug" and how it would coincide with a postmortem toxicology report? You should start there.

Yes, I've already done that. However, the articles I've read don't specifically answer this question.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2704133/

http://www.forensicsciencesimplified.org/tox/how.html

[Edited 11/30/17 10:54am]

laurarichardson said:

Menes said:

Easy there, Susu. lol . But you are 100% correct. It's self-explanatory. More specifcally, when you understand why the term is even used to determine cause of death. It is a no brainer.

Some of you think you know so much. I have seen screen shots from people who worked for Prince who said he told them to get their stuff out of Paisley Park because they might not be able to get their stuff out later. His sister is telling you she knew ahead of time based on an e-mail he sent her, Someone perhaps Pheadra may have had POA to sign docs for him, he had widdled his staff down to 2 people, and he sent everyone away and made sure the security cams were turned off.

He could have very well have known what was in the those pills or just decided to roll the dice and take as many as possible. None of the things I mentioned would have any bearing on the ME decision on calling his death accidental but there is enough information to make it plausible to appear to have been a sucidial effort.

Yea. Read it again. It will come to you. You won't get a thing accomplished unless you take your time and read why something is written and the context therein. Whats' the big hurry?

paulludvig said:

Susu1976 said:

purplefam99 said: Your body goes into an immediate detox, yes and is extremely uncomfortable for the person as it rids the body of all trades of the opiates. Technically there is no need to wean after that but the withdrawal especially after longer-term heavy use can be so bad that the person needs help dealing with the withdrawal symptoms otherwise the risk of relapse is extremely high. Also, the person is used to taking large doses of opiates and tend to not realize the risk of an overdose if they do relapse. They often take the same amount they used to take prior to the Narcan and their body cannot handle that dose. Another important thing to remember is that dependency/addiction is rarely just a physiological issue especially after long term use regardless of why the person is taking me drug or started taking it in the first place, so the person craves the opiate on a psychological level even after the physiological cravings subside. That's why detox should always be followed by rehab even if it's out-patient. Obviously I wasn't there to witness Prince's level of dependency/addiction but just by judging by the sheer number of pills found and the classic behavior of someone who is using heavily ( being able to function indicates high tolerance, the hiding of pills is text book addict behavior) I would assume that he became very ill physically and mentally in the days following the Moline incident and he couldn't cope with the withdrawal symptoms and took that fatal dose to alleviate them. If he had just battled it out for a few more hrs ( severe withdrawal can be sheer hell so it certainly easier said than done), the outcome might have been very different.

But he was out and about a lot in the days after the Moline incident. He didn't look sick at all. How is that possible?

[Edited 11/29/17 13:55pm]

This is a great question but you are not going to get an answer from the drug experts. It does not fit the stituation they have in their mind since Prince was not their patient they actually know nothing more then we do.

We know Prince had time to throw a party, talk for serveral hours to Tamron Hall, go for a bike ride, and attend a jazz show. We know numerous people looked him the face and say they noticed nothing. Some how he was going thru withdrawals and gravely ill in the last 7 days of his life but managed to not be clued to a toliet while withdrawing.

It never occurs to the drug expert that he may have been dealing with withdrawals ( something people in cirlce acknowledged to the police ) but also another illness making it nessarcy to stop using pain meds immedialty.

No one thinks it is strange that his doctor was bringing test results to him after Prince would have been out of a doctor's care overnight meaning he would not have been ready to be adminstered anything without a new round of test. Doctors usually bring you test results when they have bad news and we know Dr. S did not need to bring test to tell Prince he was a drug addict.

We know he did not have a 65k line item on his inventory sheet because he was buying illegal drugs or beause Dr. S's fees were really high.

But you know those of us who question are not experts.

[Edited 11/30/17 11:06am]

[Edited 11/30/17 11:16am]

Menes said:

laurarichardson said:

Some of you think you know so much. I have seen screen shots from people who worked for Prince who said he told them to get their stuff out of Paisley Park because they might not be able to get their stuff out later. His sister is telling you she knew ahead of time based on an e-mail he sent her, Someone perhaps Pheadra may have had POA to sign docs for him, he had widdled his staff down to 2 people, and he sent everyone away and made sure the security cams were turned off.

He could have very well have known what was in the those pills or just decided to roll the dice and take as many as possible. None of the things I mentioned would have any bearing on the ME decision on calling his death accidental but there is enough information to make it plausible to appear to have been a sucidial effort.

Yea. Read it again. It will come to you. You won't get a thing accomplished unless you take your time and read why something is written and the context therein. Whats' the big hurry?

I am making a general statement about my opinion about the possiblity of sucide. I fully understand why his death was not ruled a sucide and I have stated this many times. You read what I wrote.

[Edited 11/30/17 11:01am]

Menes said:

laurarichardson said:

Some of you think you know so much. I have seen screen shots from people who worked for Prince who said he told them to get their stuff out of Paisley Park because they might not be able to get their stuff out later. His sister is telling you she knew ahead of time based on an e-mail he sent her, Someone perhaps Pheadra may have had POA to sign docs for him, he had widdled his staff down to 2 people, and he sent everyone away and made sure the security cams were turned off.

He could have very well have known what was in the those pills or just decided to roll the dice and take as many as possible. None of the things I mentioned would have any bearing on the ME decision on calling his death accidental but there is enough information to make it plausible to appear to have been a sucidial effort.

Yea. Read it again. It will come to you. You won't get a thing accomplished unless you take your time and read why something is written and the context therein. Whats' the big hurry?

The big hurry is in the reading and comprehension classes. They're not ten a penny you know

Also context is important, unless someone is so biased and subjective they suffer from 'brain myopia'.

Oh dear...

fortuneandserendipity said:

Menes said:

Yea. Read it again. It will come to you. You won't get a thing accomplished unless you take your time and read why something is written and the context therein. Whats' the big hurry?

The big hurry is in the reading and comprehension classes. They're not ten a penny you know

Also context is important, unless someone is so biased and subjective they suffer from 'brain myopia'.

Oh dear...

I am making a general statement about my opinion about the possiblity of sucide. I fully understand why his death was not ruled a sucide and I have stated this many times. You read what I wrote.

Misslink88 said:

Menes said:

Are you aware of how to extract information from said "drug" and how it would coincide with a postmortem toxicology report? You should start there.

Yes, I've already done that. However, the articles I've read don't specifically answer this question.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2704133/

http://www.forensicsciencesimplified.org/tox/how.html

[Edited 11/30/17 10:54am]

You missed something. Unless you calculate the information on each drug mentioned (warrants or leaks) you could not have possibly calculated any postmortem tox. analysis.

Here's an small example and a hint. A simple one. Acetaminophen. How many m/l would be detected above therapeutic dosage.

How is the drug metabolized. After metabolization , what does that mean?

Time of death.

There's plenty more but that's for starters.

nelcp777 said:

I am a little slow. Has it ever been released what floor the elevator was on? Initialy, I was under the thought process Prince was dropped of at PP at 8pm. Did whatever he normally does (recording, writing, whatever). On his way upstairs maybe, pops a pill to alleviate pain and the rest is known.

I speculate that because from my understanding, he wears pajamas. So, had he been resting or sleeping or in the living quarters, he may have changed.

I do not believe there was a conspiracy, just an unfortunate incident.

I enjoy your posts and inputs, but I am struggling with my comprehension of what you are saying. That is me, my end, nothing you have done.

Yes, the elevator was on the first floor. Inside which was discovered a pool of pills, (there were that many). Along with a note from none other than Dr D .

Well actually, I can only back up the first sentence. But let's face it, some of the wacky conspiracy theories on here deserve some kind of counterbalance.

laurarichardson said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

The big hurry is in the reading and comprehension classes. They're not ten a penny you know

Also context is important, unless someone is so biased and subjective they suffer from 'brain myopia'.

Oh dear...

I am making a general statement about my opinion about the possiblity of sucide. I fully understand why his death was not ruled a sucide and I have stated this many times. You read what I wrote.

We, read what you wrote. You, didn't read or comprehend why it was written before you responded.

You have responded to a post with a complete waste of bandwidth. Read it again. You're making progress.

Misslink88 said:

Susu1976 said:

Misslink88 said: WTF?!? Are you sure you should be posting here instead of being on a straight jacket at Bellevue or at McLean (if you're are in the States)? Newsflash! You accidentally overdose when you either don't know what you are putting into your body or how much. "Person would have to have had prior knowledge that the pill contained a lethal dose. I can't buy "suicide" because of that fact.".... Ummm-hmm..already then. I am not sure whether English is your first language or if you're just stupid. Or maybe you're drunk or something, I don't know. Please, go back and read your comment several times and hopefully you will find out that you just contradicted yourself in one short sentence and your whole post is one of the most ignorant I have ever come across. I hope for your sake you are a troll or 13 yrs old and live in the woods somewhere and just got access to a computer. Otherwise I cannot fathom such stupidity. I thought have seen it all and then shit like this comes along...unreal.

Relax. Seriously. Too much self-importance is not good for the soul. Suicide is premediated murder. Therefore, a person would have to knowingly take a pill containing a lethal dose of something. The search warrants don't say if any of the other pills tested contained leghal doses, or even if the additional pills were, in fact, tested at all.

The search warrants don't say anything about ANY of the pills being tested. The search warrants have absolutely no information about fentanyl. None, except that the ME stated Prince died of fentanyl overdose. ALL information about HOW the fentanyl got into Prince's system comes from the media. So either one has to use media reports in order to understand HOW Prince died of fentanyl overdose or make up their own guesses.

Misslink88 said:

laurarichardson said:

Some of you think you know so much. I have seen screen shots from people who worked for Prince who said he told them to get their stuff out of Paisley Park because they might not be able to get their stuff out later. His sister is telling you she knew ahead of time based on an e-mail he sent her, Someone perhaps Pheadra may have had POA to sign docs for him, he had widdled his staff down to 2 people, and he sent everyone away and made sure the security cams were turned off.

He could have very well have known what was in the those pills or just decided to roll the dice and take as many as possible. None of the things I mentioned would have any bearing on the ME decision on calling his death accidental but there is enough information to make it plausible to appear to have been a sucidial effort.

The suicide angle does seem plausible in some respects. I've seen material from insiders that would indicate he was somehow preparing people but then the question of leaving no will comes in. Possibly he didn't care but his meticulousness in everything else doesn't really support it; possibly he was terminally ill and chose his own time. As I mentioned about the levels in his system in another post, the tox report only gives the amounts but not the quantity ingested.

He was preparing for something and it was not a short trip to rehab.

The no will thing is very simple. He had a place to stream his music, he had an LLC for the publishing, he had a licensing deal with WB with some CDs being licensed forvever, and he sent out directions for Paisley Park and had already started turning it into a museum before he died.

He saw the mess with Ray Charles and James Brown's estates and he knew his older sibs were greedy nut cakes. He avoided all of it by putting it in the hands of the courts who quite frankly seem to be managing some of his estate well despite the efforts of his sibs and LM to raid the piggy bank for themselves.

Keep in mind a year and a half later that WB deal is in tact, material is still on Tidal, and the museum is open. Not perfect but if he had left a will these fools would be contesting and nothing would be getting done much like the Ray Charles and James Brown estates.

Chris 'Doctor D.' Worthy - IMDb

What I don't get, he's only mentioned as an actor

Menes said:

laurarichardson said:

I am making a general statement about my opinion about the possiblity of sucide. I fully understand why his death was not ruled a sucide and I have stated this many times. You read what I wrote.

We, read what you wrote. You, didn't read or comprehend why it was written before you responded.

You have responded to a post with a complete waste of bandwidth. Read it again. You're making progress.

Because it is may general statement about suicide. I am not going to go back and change anything so get your panties out of a bunch about it. It has nothing to do with comprehending anything.

You are more concerned about my post but cheerleading a extremly arrogant person who thinks many of us should be in a straight jacket.

Menes said:

morningsong said:

Not sure what urine test have to do with gastric test but okay. I keep ending up exactly where I ended up a long time ago.

Maybe if you approached what you wish to conclude, differently, you might not be chasing your own tail.

Oh, I can make up a ton of scenerios. But given the information presented I've still come to the same conclusion.

"Aura, did you make it through to the other side? [after that bastard drug dealer ran you over]."

.... Did you get to hear the refrain of 'Still Would Stand All Time' or did it fade out as you reached heaven?"

(P.S. Is Prince with you?)

laurarichardson said:

Menes said:

We, read what you wrote. You, didn't read or comprehend why it was written before you responded.

You have responded to a post with a complete waste of bandwidth. Read it again. You're making progress.

Because it is may general statement about suicide. I am not going to go back and change anything so get your panties out of a bunch about it. It has nothing to do with comprehending anything.

You are more concerned about my post but cheerleading a extremly arrogant person who thinks many of us should be in a straight jacket.

Are you sure you don't remember what you wrote in the "chronic pain since when "thread?

As in: "You thought that a new illness came on and that he went too far with the pills and either accidentally killed himself or he did it on purpose". This would mean that you believe that there is a possibility that he committed suicide just the same as you believe he accidentally killed himself. What is the difference in what we are saying here? Seems like you might need to examine a few things .

laurarichardson said:

paulludvig said:

But he was out and about a lot in the days after the Moline incident. He didn't look sick at all. How is that possible?

[Edited 11/29/17 13:55pm]

This is a great question but you are not going to get an answer from the drug experts. It does not fit the stituation they have in their mind since Prince was not their patient they actually know nothing more then we do.

We know Prince had time to throw a party, talk for serveral hours to Tamron Hall, go for a bike ride, and attend a jazz show. We know numerous people looked him the face and say they noticed nothing. Some how he was going thru withdrawals and gravely ill in the last 7 days of his life but managed to not be clued to a toliet while withdrawing.

It never occurs to the drug expert that he may have been dealing with withdrawals ( something people in cirlce acknowledged to the police ) but also another illness making it nessarcy to stop using pain meds immedialty.

No one thinks it is strange that his doctor was bringing test results to him after Prince would have been out of a doctor's care overnight meaning he would not have been ready to be adminstered anything without a new round of test. Doctors usually bring you test results when they have bad news and we know Dr. S did not need to bring test to tell Prince he was a drug addict.

We know he did not have a 65k line item on his inventory sheet because he was buying illegal drugs or beause Dr. S's fees were really high.

But you know those of us who question are not experts.

[Edited 11/30/17 11:06am]

[Edited 11/30/17 11:16am]

If there was a way to make a scarecrow out of straw man arguments, then no question who would win the prize.

laurarichardson said:

Menes said:

We, read what you wrote. You, didn't read or comprehend why it was written before you responded.

You have responded to a post with a complete waste of bandwidth. Read it again. You're making progress.

Because it is may general statement about suicide. I am not going to go back and change anything so get your panties out of a bunch about it. It has nothing to do with comprehending anything.

You are more concerned about my post but cheerleading a extremly arrogant person who thinks many of us should be in a straight jacket.

Don't get upset. I wasnt defending Susu. She just seems to explain things so much better, is all. You're a work in progress.

Menes said:

laurarichardson said:

Because it is may general statement about suicide. I am not going to go back and change anything so get your panties out of a bunch about it. It has nothing to do with comprehending anything.

You are more concerned about my post but cheerleading a extremly arrogant person who thinks many of us should be in a straight jacket.

Are you sure you don't remember what you wrote in the "chronic pain since when "thread?

As in: "You thought that a new illness came on and that he went too far with the pills and either accidentally killed himself or he did it on purpose". This would mean that you believe that there is a possibility that he committed suicide just the same as you believe he accidentally killed himself. What is the difference in what we are saying here? Seems like you might need to examine a few things .

I have stumbled across some screen shots since then and I definitly now think he did not care about his outcome that evening. I think he knew the end was coming and threw caution to the wind. He let the chips land were they were going to land.

I know longer believe that he accidently took these meds. I think he knew that if he keep shoveling pills in his mouth he was going to die as to if he knew it would due to Fentenyl not sure he knew that but he had a lot of different drugs in his system and ask your self if the Fentenyl was not in the pills if he would still be here.

There is enough evidence that he was not planning no short trip to rehab.

laurarichardson said:

Susu1976 said:

laurarichardson said: Ermm, what part of Federal law do I not understand according to you?!? ANDREW KORNFELD NEWER GAVE PRINCE ANYTHING so stop the shoulda woulda coulda. Yes, I am an expert in pharmacology and damn proud of it, thank you. What stuff did I make up? Please, list them or like I already said STFU. When I brought up intent it was as in Andrew Kornfeld's obvious intent was to get Prince into path of detox. Understanding context doesn't seem to be your strength, neither is reading comprehension, rational and critical thinking, logic....ugh I give up. The list is too long. Speaking of resident expert, haven't you crowned yourself all things ever discussed in this forum as nobody is ever correct except you? Anyway, like I said I am not going at this back and forth with an idiot like you. There are so many intelligent posters in t!his forum to converse with. You are not one of them and not worth my time.

1) You do not understand that Andrew is not a doctor and had controlled substances in his possession and brought them across states line.

2) Andrew broke the law and his intent means nothing.

3) The police even inform of the law he has broken in the search warrant.

4) You are an expert in pharmacology but ignorant concerning the laws that govern who can have possession of these drugs and administer them.

5) You are making up Andrew’s intent because you do not know his intent and neither to do I. We both know he broke the law and his intent means nothing.

6) I have never said I am right and everybody else is wrong so once again you are making something up that is not true to try and make some point.

7) Only unintelligent people ignore facts like you have decided to do

A) Andrew breaking the law no matter what his intent was

B) Illegality of bringing controlled substances across state lines.

C) The background information on Dr K which is bad

D) The fact that Andrew and Dr. K were not needed since Hazelton was down the street.

1. Knock off your name calling before I report your ass.

[Edited 11/30/17 10:40am]

I don't understand why numeric, then alpha and then back to numeric. But anyway

Menes said:

laurarichardson said:

Because it is may general statement about suicide. I am not going to go back and change anything so get your panties out of a bunch about it. It has nothing to do with comprehending anything.

You are more concerned about my post but cheerleading a extremly arrogant person who thinks many of us should be in a straight jacket.

Don't get upset. I wasnt defending Susu. She just seems to explain things so much better, is all. You're a work in progress.

I am not upset but all she really did was spout off info any of us could find and tell us he was withdrawing which was never hidden information from the very beginning.

The question is what else was going on in Prince' s life at the time which she has no way of knowing.

Some of you (Menes and fortune) are being unnecessary vague here. If you believe you know what happened, and you can back it up with facts, why not say what you think?

[Edited 11/30/17 13:59pm]

Menes said:

laurarichardson said:

Because it is may general statement about suicide. I am not going to go back and change anything so get your panties out of a bunch about it. It has nothing to do with comprehending anything.

You are more concerned about my post but cheerleading a extremly arrogant person who thinks many of us should be in a straight jacket.

Are you sure you don't remember what you wrote in the "chronic pain since when "thread?

As in: "You thought that a new illness came on and that he went too far with the pills and either accidentally killed himself or he did it on purpose". This would mean that you believe that there is a possibility that he committed suicide just the same as you believe he accidentally killed himself. What is the difference in what we are saying here? Seems like you might need to examine a few things .

She used to dismiss the suicide theory out of hand, believing that the pills which killed him were either mistakenly mislabelled or deliberately mislabelled by somebody with the intention to kill.

fortuneandserendipity said:

laurarichardson said:

1) You do not understand that Andrew is not a doctor and had controlled substances in his possession and brought them across states line.

2) Andrew broke the law and his intent means nothing.

3) The police even inform of the law he has broken in the search warrant.

4) You are an expert in pharmacology but ignorant concerning the laws that govern who can have possession of these drugs and administer them.

5) You are making up Andrew’s intent because you do not know his intent and neither to do I. We both know he broke the law and his intent means nothing.

6) I have never said I am right and everybody else is wrong so once again you are making something up that is not true to try and make some point.

7) Only unintelligent people ignore facts like you have decided to do

A) Andrew breaking the law no matter what his intent was

B) Illegality of bringing controlled substances across state lines.

C) The background information on Dr K which is bad

D) The fact that Andrew and Dr. K were not needed since Hazelton was down the street.

1. Knock off your name calling before I report your ass.

[Edited 11/30/17 10:40am]

I don't understand why numeric, then alpha and then back to numeric. But anyway

This is not addressed to you so do not worry yourself and it should be obvious that the letters fall under number 7. I guess working the fries at Mickey Ds makes it hard for you.

Someone who thinks Prince put his clothes on backward to ward off the Devil need not discuss brain power. Now do not let the fries burn.