Bodhitheblackdog said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

purplefam99 said:

PennyPurple said:

Race baiting? Thats not what I took away from muleFunks post.

Sorry folks, I'm just sick of every thread turning it around to race. WTH?

I seriously don't know how race plays a role in Prince's death.........

i was unclear why race was brought up as well in response to my post. I thought i had missed

something perhaps.

I must've missed something too.

Menes said:

I am going to assume that you understand what Mulefunk is doing.

Mule, has been injecting a very nasty racial component to any and all threads that is in regards to Prince's death. He spews a highly toxic and speculative opinion , yet never provides the members with any amount of verifiable research, documentation or investigative tools to support such a toxic claim.


Nothing is off limits, but with such a highly charged claim , you should be man enough to put the evidence on the table. If you are not willing to do this, you are race baiting.

He continues to make the claim that accidental death/ suicide, are merely speculation because he has a "source " that says Prince was assassinated. He purports that the assassination took place because of his defense of "black" people against Trump and the uber right . I am hoping that you understand the implication of an assassination.

Using race (and now politics), to usurp the hard work most members who are interested in finding out what happened to Prince are doing, should be met with absolute vigor . He offers nothing of value in determining what may have happened , nor does he contribute any of his said "sources " for us to examine. He is in fact, redefining , speculation.

Do you know how long he has been doing this? Maybe you can reason with him and find out who assassinated Prince and get us the whole back story. We have asked for it in hundreds of post.

The only people that I know who have an appreciation for race baiting, are racist themselves.Division is its sole purpose. That division sows the seeds of hatred , which in turn, leads to death. The death of innocent people .

I don't know what you mean by "your run was great". I do know what research is. I will continue to do that.

I actually think he or she was being sarcastic. Mulefunk has stated that it was leukemia that Prince had.

Get a grip, people, this is America..everythng comes down to race...and with growing intensity, class.

To speculate that Prince was murdered because he was a BLACK 'leader' tries to make his death about race.

To speculate that he was a BLACK 'leader' (because he courageously wore his underpants and a feather boa on stage at one point?)...denigrates what Black leaders have done and suffered for.

Prince may have suffered various slings and arrows in his storied career, but the little Dude was perfectly capable of tap dancing all over the desks of powerful white guys until he got what he wanted...and they never demanded he stop being black...whatever that meant to Prince.

Prince did not die because of his race.

I thought this thread was about the facts, and facts only....

I guess with all this speculation that it's race related, why don't we allow the article that gives the tox report details?

KoolEaze said:

KoolEaze said:

PennyPurple said:

purplefam99 said:

i was unclear why race was brought up as well in response to my post. I thought i had missed

something perhaps.

I must've missed something too.

Both of you missed something? I will be brief. Go look at the "brilliant explanation for Prince's death thread". Post #269 and start from there. Flip the next page and see where he states about Prince being a threat to Trump and the uber far right. As a matter of fact, PennyPurple is responding to the thread so you should remember it.

Now, that just the beginning. Where were both of you in April 2016 - first (6) months) ? Were you on the org? If so, what threads were you contributing to? Do you remember all of the fights people had with Mulefunk for doing the same exact thing? I wont bore you with the facts.


Why don't you ask Mulefunk about his posts concerning the "black messiah" on this very forum? Where were both of you then? Ask him about his post about Dr. Martin Luther Kings death in reference to who did it and why? Then come back and tell us how he ties that in with Prince's death.

The thread did not get derailed because someone is speculating about what Mule said. The thread was hijacked by Mule to insinuate that there should be and end to the speculation that Prince committed suicide. In its place, he gave you murder. An assassination.

I have it all so I'll wait patiently for you or MuleFunk to defend what he is stating. It will be interesting.

So, the quote that you are referring to, isn't even on this thread??? No wonder I'm confused. If this thread is supposed to be only facts, how did this subject make it unto this thread?

Sorry, wasn't here in April of 2016. So you are faulting us for not being here in April/2016?

Edited to add, I replied to his post 269 on that other thread, post 269 was not race baiting in any shape or form. That's where I asked mule to make up his mind on the cause death. Other then that, I didn't respond to his other posts.

For goodness sakes I thought this was going to be a great thread. I guess not.

Since we aren't talking about facts anymore, can we talk about the tox report that was leaked?

Menes said:

PennyPurple said:

I must've missed something too.

Both of you missed something? I will be brief. Go look at the "brilliant explanation for Prince's death thread". Post #269 and start from there. Flip the next page and see where he states about Prince being a threat to Trump and the uber far right. As a matter of fact, PennyPurple is responding to the thread so you should remember it.

Now, that just the beginning. Where were both of you in April 2016 - first (6) months) ? Were you on the org? If so, what threads were you contributing to? Do you remember all of the fights people had with Mulefunk for doing the same exact thing? I wont bore you with the facts.


Why don't you ask Mulefunk about his posts concerning the "black messiah" on this very forum? Where were both of you then? Ask him about his post about Dr. Martin Luther Kings death in reference to who did it and why? Then come back and tell us how he ties that in with Prince's death.

The thread did not get derailed because someone is speculating about what Mule said. The thread was hijacked by Mule to insinuate that there should be and end to the speculation that Prince committed suicide. In its place, he gave you murder. An assassination.

I have it all so I'll wait patiently for you or MuleFunk to defend what he is stating. It will be interesting.

[Edited 11/27/17 12:31pm]

[Edited 11/27/17 12:32pm]

PennyPurple said:

So, the quote that you are referring to, isn't even on this thread??? No wonder I'm confused. If this thread is supposed to be only facts, how did this subject make it unto this thread?

Sorry, wasn't here in April of 2016. So you are faulting us for not being here in April/2016?

Menes said:

Both of you missed something? I will be brief. Go look at the "brilliant explanation for Prince's death thread". Post #269 and start from there. Flip the next page and see where he states about Prince being a threat to Trump and the uber far right. As a matter of fact, PennyPurple is responding to the thread so you should remember it.

Now, that just the beginning. Where were both of you in April 2016 - first (6) months) ? Were you on the org? If so, what threads were you contributing to? Do you remember all of the fights people had with Mulefunk for doing the same exact thing? I wont bore you with the facts.


Why don't you ask Mulefunk about his posts concerning the "black messiah" on this very forum? Where were both of you then? Ask him about his post about Dr. Martin Luther Kings death in reference to who did it and why? Then come back and tell us how he ties that in with Prince's death.

The thread did not get derailed because someone is speculating about what Mule said. The thread was hijacked by Mule to insinuate that there should be and end to the speculation that Prince committed suicide. In its place, he gave you murder. An assassination.

I have it all so I'll wait patiently for you or MuleFunk to defend what he is stating. It will be interesting.

You're not understanding. Mule came to THIS THREAD and emphatically stated that he was ending all speculation of the thread as it relates to Prince committing suicide. What I am merely explaining to you is that he is consistent with why he would want to end any speculation of how Prince died because of his agenda. Whether you knew it or not, is of no consequence to me. You are the one that decided to chime in when I stated the reasons why he is doing it. You did it without knowing the facts.

When did he ever state any facts to you or anyone else concerning how Prince died? What I did was spell out his agenda for coming on THIS THREAD because it is the same as it was way before you were even a part of the discussion. No one is stopping him from writing what he wants. He should tell you why he is writing it. He owes it to those that blindly accept it with no proof.

Menes said:

PennyPurple said:

So, the quote that you are referring to, isn't even on this thread??? No wonder I'm confused. If this thread is supposed to be only facts, how did this subject make it unto this thread?

Sorry, wasn't here in April of 2016. So you are faulting us for not being here in April/2016?

You're not understanding. Mule came to THIS THREAD and emphatically stated that he was ending all speculation of the thread as it relates to Prince committing suicide. What I am merely explaining to you is that he is consistent with why he would want to end any speculation of how Prince died because of his agenda. Whether you knew it or not, is of no consequence to me. You are the one that decided to chime in when I stated the reasons why he is doing it. You did it without knowing the facts.

When did he ever state any facts to you or anyone else concerning how Prince died? What I did was spell out his agenda for coming on THIS THREAD because it is the same as it was way before you were even a part of the discussion. No one is stopping him from writing what he wants. He should tell you why he is writing it. He owes it to those that blindly accept it with no proof.

So his post #610 where he said P did not commit suicide, was race related? I don't think so.

In fact your post #617 brought his post on another thread, into this thread and then your post #625 is where you brought race into it.

I'm not holding up for mulefunk what so ever, but to call that poster a race baiter because they won't name their sources, ... and to bring what was said in another thread to this thread, well no wonder I'm confused. LOL

And I doubt you really know what's in muleFunks head.

Menes said:

PennyPurple said:

So, the quote that you are referring to, isn't even on this thread??? No wonder I'm confused. If this thread is supposed to be only facts, how did this subject make it unto this thread?

Sorry, wasn't here in April of 2016. So you are faulting us for not being here in April/2016?

You're not understanding. Mule came to THIS THREAD and emphatically stated that he was ending all speculation of the thread as it relates to Prince committing suicide. What I am merely explaining to you is that he is consistent with why he would want to end any speculation of how Prince died because of his agenda. Whether you knew it or not, is of no consequence to me. You are the one that decided to chime in when I stated the reasons why he is doing it. You did it without knowing the facts.

When did he ever state any facts to you or anyone else concerning how Prince died? What I did was spell out his agenda for coming on THIS THREAD because it is the same as it was way before you were even a part of the discussion. No one is stopping him from writing what he wants. He should tell you why he is writing it. He owes it to those that blindly accept it with no proof.

[Edited 11/27/17 13:02pm]

PennyPurple said:

Menes said:

You're not understanding. Mule came to THIS THREAD and emphatically stated that he was ending all speculation of the thread as it relates to Prince committing suicide. What I am merely explaining to you is that he is consistent with why he would want to end any speculation of how Prince died because of his agenda. Whether you knew it or not, is of no consequence to me. You are the one that decided to chime in when I stated the reasons why he is doing it. You did it without knowing the facts.

When did he ever state any facts to you or anyone else concerning how Prince died? What I did was spell out his agenda for coming on THIS THREAD because it is the same as it was way before you were even a part of the discussion. No one is stopping him from writing what he wants. He should tell you why he is writing it. He owes it to those that blindly accept it with no proof.

So his post #610 where he said P did not commit suicide, was race related? I don't think so.

Nevermind. It's all good. lol. I told you to read post #269 onward in the "brilliant explanation for Prince's death thread". When he was asked for the motive ,you can figure it out from there with post #289. He will explain it to you when he is man enough to do so. This is why he is on THIS THREAD. Its a long standing mantra . Give it a moment it will show up. Maybe then you will be explain it to us. Most of us who have been here prior, already know.

Menes said:

PennyPurple said:

So his post #610 where he said P did not commit suicide, was race related? I don't think so.

Nevermind. It's all good. lol. I told you to read post #269 onward in the "brilliant explanation for Prince's death thread". When he was asked for the motive ,you can figure it out from there with post #289. He will explain it to you when he is man enough to do so. This is why he is on THIS THREAD. Its a long standing mantra . Give it a moment it will show up. Maybe then you will be explain it to us. Most of us who have been here prior, already know.

I did read it. But it has nothing to do with this thread..it's a totally different thread...correct??

PennyPurple said:

Menes said:

Nevermind. It's all good. lol. I told you to read post #269 onward in the "brilliant explanation for Prince's death thread". When he was asked for the motive ,you can figure it out from there with post #289. He will explain it to you when he is man enough to do so. This is why he is on THIS THREAD. Its a long standing mantra . Give it a moment it will show up. Maybe then you will be explain it to us. Most of us who have been here prior, already know.

I did read it. But it has nothing to do with this thread..it's a totally different thread...correct??

It does because he stated he was ending all speculation in THIS THREAD. Why would he want to end the speculation in THIS THREAD? lol. I chose to call him out on his ending the speculation. Either put up, or shut up. Plain and simple. I will do it everytime he does it . I don't care how it comes out. Quite frankly , I welcome it.

Menes said:

PennyPurple said:

I must've missed something too.

Both of you missed something? I will be brief. Go look at the "brilliant explanation for Prince's death thread". Post #269 and start from there. Flip the next page and see where he states about Prince being a threat to Trump and the uber far right. As a matter of fact, PennyPurple is responding to the thread so you should remember it.

Now, that just the beginning. Where were both of you in April 2016 - first (6) months) ? Were you on the org? If so, what threads were you contributing to? Do you remember all of the fights people had with Mulefunk for doing the same exact thing? I wont bore you with the facts.


Why don't you ask Mulefunk about his posts concerning the "black messiah" on this very forum? Where were both of you then? Ask him about his post about Dr. Martin Luther Kings death in reference to who did it and why? Then come back and tell us how he ties that in with Prince's death.

The thread did not get derailed because someone is speculating about what Mule said. The thread was hijacked by Mule to insinuate that there should be and end to the speculation that Prince committed suicide. In its place, he gave you murder. An assassination.

I have it all so I'll wait patiently for you or MuleFunk to defend what he is stating. It will be interesting.

well i was not here in april 2016. i don't know Mulefunks mantra. I didn't get that they were

trying to be the definative voice and authority when they stated "let me end speculation" i thought

that was just a trite expression. But you seem to have been in more conversations with them, I am guessing, so your view is different. i suppose, if it is as you say, it will show itself soon enough.

purplefam99 said:

Menes said:

Both of you missed something? I will be brief. Go look at the "brilliant explanation for Prince's death thread". Post #269 and start from there. Flip the next page and see where he states about Prince being a threat to Trump and the uber far right. As a matter of fact, PennyPurple is responding to the thread so you should remember it.

Now, that just the beginning. Where were both of you in April 2016 - first (6) months) ? Were you on the org? If so, what threads were you contributing to? Do you remember all of the fights people had with Mulefunk for doing the same exact thing? I wont bore you with the facts.


Why don't you ask Mulefunk about his posts concerning the "black messiah" on this very forum? Where were both of you then? Ask him about his post about Dr. Martin Luther Kings death in reference to who did it and why? Then come back and tell us how he ties that in with Prince's death.

The thread did not get derailed because someone is speculating about what Mule said. The thread was hijacked by Mule to insinuate that there should be and end to the speculation that Prince committed suicide. In its place, he gave you murder. An assassination.

I have it all so I'll wait patiently for you or MuleFunk to defend what he is stating. It will be interesting.

well i was not here in april 2016. i don't know Mulefunks mantra. I didn't get that they were

trying to be the definative voice and authority when they stated "let me end speculation" i thought

that was just a trite expression. But you seem to have been in more conversations with them, I am guessing, so your view is different. i suppose, if it is as you say, it will show itself soon enough.

I know you were not. I am certainly not blaming you. Please don't take it that way.

Mule is entitled to SPECULATE. Unless we have the facts , the rest of it will be speculation. We are all doing it. The question is, who would want to end the speculation of one thing when you are speculating about the other?

Specifically, Who would want to come to one thread to purport ending the speculation of Prince dying accidentally or by suicide while simultaneously promoting that Prince's death was a MURDER/HIT/ASSASSINATION in another?

Who would equate Prince's death with the government discrediting Martin Luther King? Why would you even throw a universal pillar such as MLK in the conversation about Prince's death when you are speculating? Are we not deserving of an explanation? He does this every time he goes to a thread and never gives an explanation. This is why you see the heavy hand of reprisal. There is more but I'll wait. Here's your chance Mule. Man up, buddy.

Matter of fact, Mule, I will make a deal with you this very day. Take over the thread and explain your views on Prince's death. It doesn't matter if it fits with anything in the warrants at this point. Give us details about what you have been writing for over a year now. After all, your point of posting was to end the speculation in this thread because you have the "inside line". That sounds like facts to me. I will sit back and read and will NOT interrupt. Take a long as you need. When you're done, you know exactly how to find me. Menes, out.

Menes said:

Lovejunky said:

so...

you,re leaning towards there being some kind of coverup and the Coronor is complicit then ?

No. I have accepted what the medical examiner has stated as the cause/manner of death. She has guidelines.

She was not able to take into consideration many many other factors to determine why a person would want to end life.

People view suicide as cowardly, as a selfish act, and pass religious edicts as if they are in the mind of God himself on the subject. What more did we need ? When your doctor or your family members gives the order to pull the plug, what is that called? Legal?

Who am I to determine why/when a person decides to check out?

I , like you, embrace his death. To me, his addiction is the same as Prince and his music creation. They are one, controlled by the same impulses. Every single day he fought a trigger that caused him to use. Every singe day a synapse formed an inherent yearning to create. It is all inherent.

When people stop idolizing Prince and focus on the fabric of the person, they will have a greater appreciation for the mind of the man and his music.

Maybe its just me, but I find it befitting that his death is mysterious and that he was found in an elevator. Imagine what we would be debating if we knew he was hooked up to a feeding tube or that he was on a morphine drip for time unknown as he withered away.

So you think he commited suicide? Why would he do that, in your opinion?

As to your last paragraph - do you think he had a serious illness as well?

Mule will return shortly Chicago style... since he's going there to write a book

Menes said:

purplefam99 said:

well i was not here in april 2016. i don't know Mulefunks mantra. I didn't get that they were

trying to be the definative voice and authority when they stated "let me end speculation" i thought

that was just a trite expression. But you seem to have been in more conversations with them, I am guessing, so your view is different. i suppose, if it is as you say, it will show itself soon enough.

I know you were not. I am certainly not blaming you. Please don't take it that way.

Mule is entitled to SPECULATE. Unless we have the facts , the rest of it will be speculation. We are all doing it. The question is, who would want to end the speculation of one thing when you are speculating about the other?

Specifically, Who would want to come to one thread to purport ending the speculation of Prince dying accidentally or by suicide while simultaneously promoting that Prince's death was a MURDER/HIT/ASSASSINATION in another?

Who would equate Prince's death with the government discrediting Martin Luther King? Why would you even throw a universal pillar such as MLK in the conversation about Prince's death when you are speculating? Are we not deserving of an explanation? He does this every time he goes to a thread and never gives an explanation. This is why you see the heavy hand of reprisal. There is more but I'll wait. Here's your chance Mule. Man up, buddy.

Matter of fact, Mule, I will make a deal with you this very day. Take over the thread and explain your views on Prince's death. It doesn't matter if it fits with anything in the warrants at this point. Give us details about what you have been writing for over a year now. After all, your point of posting was to end the speculation in this thread because you have the "inside line". That sounds like facts to me. I will sit back and read and will NOT interrupt. Take a long as you need. When you're done, you know exactly how to find me. Menes, out.

All of the above is well documented here in my posts on the subject.

Feel free to read through them.

Now on the race issue.

Google COINTELPRO and please YouTube Darthard Perry's interview on how they disrupted movements and especially artists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pCk1qc4JvI

Frankly I don't give two fucks about what anyone believes or don't believe but my information on this subject has been given to me by people in the field and what was told to me in April/May 2016 has been very accurate now in 2017. I can't reveal my sources in law enforecement or in the medical field but the information is out there.

It's mighty funny that all of these suicide theories came forward around the time the INFOmercials on the BBC came out.

Cat have peoples tongues? MuleFunk answered you Menes.

muleFunk said:

Menes said:

I know you were not. I am certainly not blaming you. Please don't take it that way.

Mule is entitled to SPECULATE. Unless we have the facts , the rest of it will be speculation. We are all doing it. The question is, who would want to end the speculation of one thing when you are speculating about the other?

Specifically, Who would want to come to one thread to purport ending the speculation of Prince dying accidentally or by suicide while simultaneously promoting that Prince's death was a MURDER/HIT/ASSASSINATION in another?

Who would equate Prince's death with the government discrediting Martin Luther King? Why would you even throw a universal pillar such as MLK in the conversation about Prince's death when you are speculating? Are we not deserving of an explanation? He does this every time he goes to a thread and never gives an explanation. This is why you see the heavy hand of reprisal. There is more but I'll wait. Here's your chance Mule. Man up, buddy.

Matter of fact, Mule, I will make a deal with you this very day. Take over the thread and explain your views on Prince's death. It doesn't matter if it fits with anything in the warrants at this point. Give us details about what you have been writing for over a year now. After all, your point of posting was to end the speculation in this thread because you have the "inside line". That sounds like facts to me. I will sit back and read and will NOT interrupt. Take a long as you need. When you're done, you know exactly how to find me. Menes, out.

All of the above is well documented here in my posts on the subject.

Feel free to read through them.

Now on the race issue.

Google COINTELPRO and please YouTube Darthard Perry's interview on how they disrupted movements and especially artists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pCk1qc4JvI

Frankly I don't give two fucks about what anyone believes or don't believe but my information on this subject has been given to me by people in the field and what was told to me in April/May 2016 has been very accurate now in 2017. I can't reveal my sources in law enforecement or in the medical field but the information is out there.

It's mighty funny that all of these suicide theories came forward around the time the INFOmercials on the BBC came out.

None of this makes any sense. P being the most reclusive of celebrities. An assassination job really?

Hitjob by tram crash?! I'm grasping but then so is muleFunk

fortuneandserendipity said:

muleFunk said:

All of the above is well documented here in my posts on the subject.

Feel free to read through them.

Now on the race issue.

Google COINTELPRO and please YouTube Darthard Perry's interview on how they disrupted movements and especially artists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pCk1qc4JvI

Frankly I don't give two fucks about what anyone believes or don't believe but my information on this subject has been given to me by people in the field and what was told to me in April/May 2016 has been very accurate now in 2017. I can't reveal my sources in law enforecement or in the medical field but the information is out there.

It's mighty funny that all of these suicide theories came forward around the time the INFOmercials on the BBC came out.

None of this makes any sense. P being the most reclusive of celebrities. An assassination job really?

I just wish MuleFunk would make up his mind. An assassination is a much to far reach IMO.

laurarichardson said:

coldasice said:

laurarichardson said:

---------- I was aware of the withdrawals comment coming from his camp. Dr. S put a press release that pain pills were Kirk not Prince. Not sure way he told on himself with cops and then changed his story and appears to be getting away with it. Is it not interesting that Ondansetron ODT is often prescribed for the following. --- his medication is used alone or with other medications to prevent nausea and vomiting caused by cancer drug treatment (chemotherapy) and radiation therapy. It is also used to prevent and treat nausea and vomiting after surgery. It works by blocking one of the body's natural substances (serotonin) that causes vomiting. --- Note that Prince was suppose to be in withdrawal but Dr. S was seeing him for joint pain and none of the drugs Dr. S prescribed would have helped ween him off of pain medications or had anything to do with joint pain. I would bet that Prince had seen had doctor in the past under an assumed name either in the U.S or oversees and I bet his former manager is well aware of it. [Edited 11/2/17 11:05am] ----- Also note the drugs Doctor S prescribed. The diazepam was found in Prince's system but does anyone find it odd that he was prescribed so many drugs for anixiety along with the hydro that Kirk had? Hydroxyzine is used to treat itching caused by allergies. It is an antihistamine and works by blocking a certain natural substance (histamine) that your body makes during an allergic reaction. Hydroxyzine may also be used short-term to treat anxietyor to help you feel sleepy/relaxed before and after surgery. ------- Clonidine lowers blood pressure by decreasing the levels of certain chemicals in your blood. This allows your blood vessels to relax and your heart to beat more slowly and easily. The Catapres brand of clonidine is used to treat hypertension (high blood pressure). The Kapvay brand is used to treat attention deficit hyperactivity disorder( Valium, known as diazepam in its generic form, is a benzodiazepine primarily used for short-term relief from symptoms of anxiety disorders in children older than six months, adolescents, and adults. It may help relieve excessive worry, shortness of breath or heavy perspiration, feelings of edginess, and difficulty sleeping due to anxiety. Valium can also be used to treat alcohol withdrawal, seizures, muscle spasms, or as a relaxing agent before medical procedures. ------- The Valium should not be taken with other Certain over-the-counter, prescription medications, and supplements can increase the risk of side effects or the levels of diazepam in the body including: alcohol, antihistamines, pain relievers, muscle relaxants, or other drugs that promote sleep and relieve anxiety. Remember Andrew brought the Subxone for his as well. I am sorry but I think Prince was going to have problems even if the Fentenyl had not gotten to him. [Edited 11/2/17 11:18am] I think he had a doctor who out of his element and associates who were just as clueless. [Edited 11/2/17 11:20am]

Those are good Google definitions of the drugs, but off label uses for Clonodine is easing opiate withdrawal symptoms. This is the first line of help for someone wanting to go cold turkey. Suboxone is an opiate blocker and an opiate, starting down that road without dose reduction can make "Kicking" worse. Diazepam is also prescribed to help with withdrawal, but only for a few weeks at most to relieve anxiety. Usually Librium is prescribed for this because there's less chance of benzodiazepine addiction and it has a longer half life. It sounds like he was prescribing him pain pills and meds for withdrawal concurrently. Very odd.

This doctor was not an addiction specialist. I do not think he knew what the hell he was doing and unfortunalty unless Prince' sibs push this the doctor will get away with his incompotence. How does one prescribe pain pills for someone who is suppose to be withdrawing.

PennyPurple said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

None of this makes any sense. P being the most reclusive of celebrities. An assassination job really?

I just wish MuleFunk would make up his mind. An assassination is a much to far reach IMO.

To fortuneandserendipity... I still think all the clothes found on him were backwards, Sounds might fishy to me. If one is panicky of about to crook I can see maybe getting one of the items on backwards but all of them,,,,hhhhmmmm!

laurarichardson said:

coldasice said:

laurarichardson said: Those are good Google definitions of the drugs, but off label uses for Clonodine is easing opiate withdrawal symptoms. This is the first line of help for someone wanting to go cold turkey. Suboxone is an opiate blocker and an opiate, starting down that road without dose reduction can make "Kicking" worse. Diazepam is also prescribed to help with withdrawal, but only for a few weeks at most to relieve anxiety. Usually Librium is prescribed for this because there's less chance of benzodiazepine addiction and it has a longer half life. It sounds like he was prescribing him pain pills and meds for withdrawal concurrently. Very odd.

This doctor was not an addiction specialist. I do not think he knew what the hell he was doing and unfortunalty unless Prince' sibs push this the doctor will get away with his incompotence. How does one prescribe pain pills for someone who is suppose to be withdrawing.

Suboxone is not going to be the best opiate blocker, because buprenorphine itself is an opiate. (buprenorphine works along only one of the mechanisms used by a typical opiate, as against 4 well established ones).

And naloxone isn't going to block that, or there would be no point in combining the two in a pill.

Dr S never prescribed suboxone and he isn't an addiction specialist. Which explains why someone from prince's camp reached out to Dr Kornfield, who is an addiction specialist. Suboxone long term isn't much good in enabling people to kick the habit, as it is very addictive itself, judging by multiple anecdotal reports.