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Reply #300 posted 11/22/17 11:50am

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Reply #301 posted 11/22/17 11:55am

1Sasha

I agree - it is a commercial enterprise now. I see Michael Jackson slot machines at a local casino. Any wonder how long it will take for Prince machines to show up? I still think the family should lay him to rest outside of PP - in a private space never to be revealed. Very much like what was done with Freddie Mercury's remains.

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Reply #302 posted 11/22/17 12:16pm

PeteSilas

1Sasha said:

I agree - it is a commercial enterprise now. I see Michael Jackson slot machines at a local casino. Any wonder how long it will take for Prince machines to show up? I still think the family should lay him to rest outside of PP - in a private space never to be revealed. Very much like what was done with Freddie Mercury's remains.

after hearing his oakland concert, i wondered if he wanted to be left in PP, he told the crowd to come see him at PP but not in the wintertime. Maybe it meant nothing but it was kind of an unusual request that came across as a statement made in jest but given what followed, who knows?

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Reply #303 posted 11/22/17 12:40pm

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PeteSilas said:



1Sasha said:


I agree - it is a commercial enterprise now. I see Michael Jackson slot machines at a local casino. Any wonder how long it will take for Prince machines to show up? I still think the family should lay him to rest outside of PP - in a private space never to be revealed. Very much like what was done with Freddie Mercury's remains.



after hearing his oakland concert, i wondered if he wanted to be left in PP, he told the crowd to come see him at PP but not in the wintertime. Maybe it meant nothing but it was kind of an unusual request that came across as a statement made in jest but given what followed, who knows?


— Tyka said he wanted to be at Paisley.
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Reply #304 posted 11/22/17 12:44pm

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OperatingThetan said:

Now the estate are applying for a license for Paisley Park to sell alcohol for their Superbowl activities.

Some people on Twitter are upset, but bearing in mind Prince's music is now on Youtube and Spotify, the very two venues he was most vehemently critical of, a few beers at Paisley seems kind of trivial in comparison.

It's becoming increasingly clear though that Paisley is no longer Prince's home in any respect, but is rather a Prince- themed venue.

—-Yes, this true but they need revenue and maybe not having alcohol sales is hurting business. Remember Prince had touring money to subsidize Paisley now that touring money is gone and who knows if he was forced to retire he may have had to resort to this.
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Reply #305 posted 11/22/17 3:38pm

rogifan

OperatingThetan said:

Now the estate are applying for a license for Paisley Park to sell alcohol for their Superbowl activities.

Some people on Twitter are upset, but bearing in mind Prince's music is now on Youtube and Spotify, the very two venues he was most vehemently critical of, a few beers at Paisley seems kind of trivial in comparison.

It's becoming increasingly clear though that Paisley is no longer Prince's home in any respect, but is rather a Prince- themed venue.

HITNRUN Phase 2 was available on Apple Music in 2016. That was before any streaming deals were worked out. I hope this alcohol deal is a one off just due to the Super Bowl. But where does it end? If they serve food at these Super Bowl events will they serve meat?
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Reply #306 posted 11/22/17 3:48pm

rogifan

laurarichardson said:

OperatingThetan said:

Now the estate are applying for a license for Paisley Park to sell alcohol for their Superbowl activities.

Some people on Twitter are upset, but bearing in mind Prince's music is now on Youtube and Spotify, the very two venues he was most vehemently critical of, a few beers at Paisley seems kind of trivial in comparison.

It's becoming increasingly clear though that Paisley is no longer Prince's home in any respect, but is rather a Prince- themed venue.

—-Yes, this true but they need revenue and maybe not having alcohol sales is hurting business. Remember Prince had touring money to subsidize Paisley now that touring money is gone and who knows if he was forced to retire he may have had to resort to this.

This request is just for the week of the Super Bowl. We still don’t know if it’s been approved though I suspect it will be because the city will want the Super Bowl business. However, if the city frowned on selling alcohol at Paisley in the past I don’t see why they would change their mind now. I highly doubt lack of alcohol is impacting tours. Maybe the dance parties but even there I doubt that they’d get that many more people to come out if they sold alcohol. When Prince threw PPAD events people still showed up even though there was no alcohol and no guarantee he would perform.
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Reply #307 posted 11/22/17 4:56pm

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rogifan said:

laurarichardson said:


—-Yes, this true but they need revenue and maybe not having alcohol sales is hurting business. Remember Prince had touring money to subsidize Paisley now that touring money is gone and who knows if he was forced to retire he may have had to resort to this.

This request is just for the week of the Super Bowl. We still don’t know if it’s been approved though I suspect it will be because the city will want the Super Bowl business. However, if the city frowned on selling alcohol at Paisley in the past I don’t see why they would change their mind now. I highly doubt lack of alcohol is impacting tours. Maybe the dance parties but even there I doubt that they’d get that many more people to come out if they sold alcohol. When Prince threw PPAD events people still showed up even though there was no alcohol and no guarantee he would perform.

—When Prince threw events he was as there and might perform so it was different times. I believe they did not sell alcohol at these events because Prince did not allow it.
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Reply #308 posted 11/22/17 5:00pm

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laurarichardson said:

rogifan said:
This request is just for the week of the Super Bowl. We still don’t know if it’s been approved though I suspect it will be because the city will want the Super Bowl business. However, if the city frowned on selling alcohol at Paisley in the past I don’t see why they would change their mind now. I highly doubt lack of alcohol is impacting tours. Maybe the dance parties but even there I doubt that they’d get that many more people to come out if they sold alcohol. When Prince threw PPAD events people still showed up even though there was no alcohol and no guarantee he would perform.
—When Prince threw events he was as there and might perform so it was different times. I believe they did not sell alcohol at these events because Prince did not allow it.

That's what Rogifan just said....

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Reply #309 posted 11/23/17 3:52am

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laurarichardson said:

rogifan said:
This request is just for the week of the Super Bowl. We still don’t know if it’s been approved though I suspect it will be because the city will want the Super Bowl business. However, if the city frowned on selling alcohol at Paisley in the past I don’t see why they would change their mind now. I highly doubt lack of alcohol is impacting tours. Maybe the dance parties but even there I doubt that they’d get that many more people to come out if they sold alcohol. When Prince threw PPAD events people still showed up even though there was no alcohol and no guarantee he would perform.
—When Prince threw events he was as there and might perform so it was different times. I believe they did not sell alcohol at these events because Prince did not allow it.

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Reply #310 posted 11/27/17 3:01pm

laytonian

laurarichardson said:

rogifan said:


This request is just for the week of the Super Bowl. We still don’t know if it’s been approved though I suspect it will be because the city will want the Super Bowl business. However, if the city frowned on selling alcohol at Paisley in the past I don’t see why they would change their mind now. I highly doubt lack of alcohol is impacting tours. Maybe the dance parties but even there I doubt that they’d get that many more people to come out if they sold alcohol. When Prince threw PPAD events people still showed up even though there was no alcohol and no guarantee he would perform.

—When Prince threw events he was as there and might perform so it was different times. I believe they did not sell alcohol at these events because Prince did not allow it.


He didn't SELL alcohol because PP was not licensed and zoned to do so. END OF STORY.
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He did not PERMIT alcohol at his public events (which were actually private parties) for liability and permit reasons.
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Remember, PP wasn't even even an approved public facility until just before the museum opened.
Y'all forgot THAT?
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ALSO forget the fantasy that he didn't drink. He liked fine wines and champagne. He and Andre had split a bottle of champagne after a 3rdeyegirl performance.
https://www.billboard.com...emembrance
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Doesn't ANYONE read interviews?
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Reply #311 posted 11/27/17 4:49pm

rogifan

laytonian said:

laurarichardson said:


—When Prince threw events he was as there and might perform so it was different times. I believe they did not sell alcohol at these events because Prince did not allow it.


He didn't SELL alcohol because PP was not licensed and zoned to do so. END OF STORY.
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He did not PERMIT alcohol at his public events (which were actually private parties) for liability and permit reasons.
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Remember, PP wasn't even even an approved public facility until just before the museum opened.
Y'all forgot THAT?
.
ALSO forget the fantasy that he didn't drink. He liked fine wines and champagne. He and Andre had split a bottle of champagne after a 3rdeyegirl performance.
https://www.billboard.com...emembrance
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Doesn't ANYONE read interviews?

My guess is people aren’t combing through interviews looking for references of Prince drinking. wink

Anyway when Prince invited NABJ convention attendees to Paisley Park in 2015 no alcohol was served.

http://www.latimes.com/en...story.html

As far as we know Prince never attempted to obtain a liquor license and musicians like Adrian Crutchfield mention sneaking alcohol in because Prince didn’t allow it. A former assistant, Mariah Brown, says he didn’t drink. I believe she worked for him from 2013-2015.

http://minnesota.cbslocal...assistant/

It’s probably safe to say there wasn’t a lot of alcohol around at Paisley Park, at least the past 10 years or so. Still if they want a temporary permit to offer it once a year during the Super Bowl I don’t think it’s the end of the world.
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Reply #312 posted 11/27/17 5:00pm

laytonian

Of course he didn't allow alcohol during working hours -- and an interview session IS work.
Social drinking is something else.
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Reply #313 posted 11/27/17 6:41pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
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https://www.dailytelegrap...b7a0576a04

Prince's rumored rider in 2012 during his Australian tour included Lemoncello (liqueur), Red Wine, White Wine, and Cristal Champagne.

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Reply #314 posted 11/27/17 7:18pm

rogifan

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

https://www.dailytelegrap...b7a0576a04



Prince's rumored rider in 2012 during his Australian tour included Lemoncello (liqueur), Red Wine, White Wine, and Cristal Champagne.


Ok well I’m not sure what this has to do with Paisley Park. Also, I certainly haven’t claimed that Prince never drank.
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Reply #315 posted 11/27/17 7:26pm

rogifan

laytonian said:

Of course he didn't allow alcohol during working hours -- and an interview session IS work.
Social drinking is something else.

Well the NABJ invitation specifically mentioned no alcohol (along with no cameras or cell phones) so if that event was considered “work” would he even need to mention no alcohol on the invite? Obviously none of this matters now. PP applied for the temporary permit and I suspect the city will approve it as they’ll want the Super Bowl business. But I won’t be surprised if some people show up at the city council meeting to protest. They stream those meetings live so I’ll have to tune in as I have no plans to be there in person. 🙂
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Reply #316 posted 11/27/17 9:01pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
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rogifan said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

https://www.dailytelegrap...b7a0576a04

Prince's rumored rider in 2012 during his Australian tour included Lemoncello (liqueur), Red Wine, White Wine, and Cristal Champagne.

Ok well I’m not sure what this has to do with Paisley Park. Also, I certainly haven’t claimed that Prince never drank.

I dont care what you think.

Why would you ever assume I was responding to you?

blunt



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Reply #317 posted 11/27/17 9:39pm

PeteSilas

from what i've heard, of course he drank, he was hardly a problem drinker if what i've read is any indication. He was known to get "tipsy" even while recording, supposedly he was drinking wine during the recording of "How Come U Don't Call me Anymore". And just this morning I was listening to the new Eric Leeds interviews where he said Prince couldn't drink a lot without getting drunk and that he was drunk during a Madhouse recording session along with Sheila E. He'd been known to drink, the only time where it might have caused any issue was during the Slave era where he had to be rushed to the hospital to have his stomach pumped. During later years, he probably abstained but i wouldn't know, I believe the JW's prohibit drinking but I'm not sure.

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Reply #318 posted 11/27/17 9:41pm

PeteSilas

also, whatever his feeling about drinking was, his concerts sold beer and so forth. it's hard to go against the current like that, i remember my mentor, owned a store, sold all kinds of liquor even though he knew what it did to people, i used to have trouble putting it together in my mind but he was a capitalist.

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Reply #319 posted 11/28/17 1:41am

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

https://www.dailytelegrap...b7a0576a04



Prince's rumored rider in 2012 during his Australian tour included Lemoncello (liqueur), Red Wine, White Wine, and Cristal Champagne.


—A couple of people in his bands said he liked having big dinners before the shows with band and that he spared no expense on food and drink. Ian Boxhill also said he had a fantastic wine collection.
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Reply #320 posted 11/28/17 3:16am

OperatingTheta
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PeteSilas said:

from what i've heard, of course he drank, he was hardly a problem drinker if what i've read is any indication. He was known to get "tipsy" even while recording, supposedly he was drinking wine during the recording of "How Come U Don't Call me Anymore". And just this morning I was listening to the new Eric Leeds interviews where he said Prince couldn't drink a lot without getting drunk and that he was drunk during a Madhouse recording session along with Sheila E. He'd been known to drink, the only time where it might have caused any issue was during the Slave era where he had to be rushed to the hospital to have his stomach pumped. During later years, he probably abstained but i wouldn't know, I believe the JW's prohibit drinking but I'm not sure.



JWs do not prohibit drinking alcohol, but advise against drunkeness. Nearly every JW I knew used to drink.
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Reply #321 posted 11/28/17 3:33am

Lovejunky

OperatingThetan said:

PeteSilas said:

from what i've heard, of course he drank, he was hardly a problem drinker if what i've read is any indication. He was known to get "tipsy" even while recording, supposedly he was drinking wine during the recording of "How Come U Don't Call me Anymore". And just this morning I was listening to the new Eric Leeds interviews where he said Prince couldn't drink a lot without getting drunk and that he was drunk during a Madhouse recording session along with Sheila E. He'd been known to drink, the only time where it might have caused any issue was during the Slave era where he had to be rushed to the hospital to have his stomach pumped. During later years, he probably abstained but i wouldn't know, I believe the JW's prohibit drinking but I'm not sure.

JWs do not prohibit drinking alcohol, but advise against drunkeness. Nearly every JW I knew used to drink.

Thats the point...

Im a low key drinker..If someone asks me if I drink, I say yes,

I will have one or two glasses max..I love wines Liquers, all kinds of things

but I havent been drunk since I was 21...

I can relate ..

Prince was a good host, he would have had a variety

of wines and special drinks along side the captian crunch to offer his guests...

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Reply #322 posted 11/28/17 4:44am

laurarichardso
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Lovejunky said:

OperatingThetan said:

PeteSilas said: JWs do not prohibit drinking alcohol, but advise against drunkeness. Nearly every JW I knew used to drink.

Thats the point...

Im a low key drinker..If someone asks me if I drink, I say yes,

I will have one or two glasses max..I love wines Liquers, all kinds of things

but I havent been drunk since I was 21...

I can relate ..

Prince was a good host, he would have had a variety

of wines and special drinks along side the captian crunch to offer his guests...

Co-sign that is what good host do biggrin

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Reply #323 posted 11/28/17 5:12am

rogifan

Lovejunky said:



OperatingThetan said:


PeteSilas said:

from what i've heard, of course he drank, he was hardly a problem drinker if what i've read is any indication. He was known to get "tipsy" even while recording, supposedly he was drinking wine during the recording of "How Come U Don't Call me Anymore". And just this morning I was listening to the new Eric Leeds interviews where he said Prince couldn't drink a lot without getting drunk and that he was drunk during a Madhouse recording session along with Sheila E. He'd been known to drink, the only time where it might have caused any issue was during the Slave era where he had to be rushed to the hospital to have his stomach pumped. During later years, he probably abstained but i wouldn't know, I believe the JW's prohibit drinking but I'm not sure.



JWs do not prohibit drinking alcohol, but advise against drunkeness. Nearly every JW I knew used to drink.

Thats the point...



Im a low key drinker..If someone asks me if I drink, I say yes,



I will have one or two glasses max..I love wines Liquers, all kinds of things


but I havent been drunk since I was 21...



I can relate ..



Prince was a good host, he would have had a variety


of wines and special drinks along side the captian crunch to offer his guests...


Seems some things are being conflated here. Maybe because some fans incorrectly claimed on social media that Prince never drank which obviously isn’t true. To me that’s separate from whether Paisley Park should host public events that serve alcohol. Seems to me the latter is what (some) fans are objecting to. I’ve changed my initial opinion on it mostly because I think PP would be crazy not to take advantage of the Super Bowl being in Minneapolis. If they can host some A-list parties and make decent $$ to help with the cost of running the place and keeping the doors open then I think they should do it - so long as it’s just for special events like this.
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Reply #324 posted 11/29/17 7:17am

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rogifan said:

Lovejunky said:



OperatingThetan said:


PeteSilas said:

from what i've heard, of course he drank, he was hardly a problem drinker if what i've read is any indication. He was known to get "tipsy" even while recording, supposedly he was drinking wine during the recording of "How Come U Don't Call me Anymore". And just this morning I was listening to the new Eric Leeds interviews where he said Prince couldn't drink a lot without getting drunk and that he was drunk during a Madhouse recording session along with Sheila E. He'd been known to drink, the only time where it might have caused any issue was during the Slave era where he had to be rushed to the hospital to have his stomach pumped. During later years, he probably abstained but i wouldn't know, I believe the JW's prohibit drinking but I'm not sure.



JWs do not prohibit drinking alcohol, but advise against drunkeness. Nearly every JW I knew used to drink.

Thats the point...



Im a low key drinker..If someone asks me if I drink, I say yes,



I will have one or two glasses max..I love wines Liquers, all kinds of things


but I havent been drunk since I was 21...



I can relate ..



Prince was a good host, he would have had a variety


of wines and special drinks along side the captian crunch to offer his guests...


Seems some things are being conflated here. Maybe because some fans incorrectly claimed on social media that Prince never drank which obviously isn’t true. To me that’s separate from whether Paisley Park should host public events that serve alcohol. Seems to me the latter is what (some) fans are objecting to. I’ve changed my initial opinion on it mostly because I think PP would be crazy not to take advantage of the Super Bowl being in Minneapolis. If they can host some A-list parties and make decent $$ to help with the cost of running the place and keeping the doors open then I think they should do it - so long as it’s just for special events like this.


I agree that if he had alcohol on the premises and drank sometimes himself, doing so on very rare occasions at PP would be okay today.
As an aside, I do know that he liked his girls not to drink. 🙂💜
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Reply #325 posted 11/29/17 7:18am

nelcp777

The Gresham's and Venita Jackson's appeals to the Minnesota State Supreme Court have been denied:

http://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/High-Profile-Cases/10-PR-16-46/Appellate-Court-Order.pdf

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Reply #326 posted 11/29/17 8:03am

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nelcp777 said:

The Gresham's and Venita Jackson's appeals to the Minnesota State Supreme Court have been denied:

http://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/High-Profile-Cases/10-PR-16-46/Appellate-Court-Order.pdf

Thank goodness!

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Reply #327 posted 11/29/17 8:20am

laurarichardso
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nelcp777 said:

The Gresham's and Venita Jackson's appeals to the Minnesota State Supreme Court have been denied:



http://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/High-Profile-Cases/10-PR-16-46/Appellate-Court-Order.pdf


——-/// Thank goodness. Greedy assholes.
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Reply #328 posted 11/29/17 3:07pm

jstar69

Anyone know what happened to the supposed new release that Sharon said we’d have before year end? Or did I dream that?
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Reply #329 posted 11/29/17 3:11pm

nelcp777

jstar69 said:

Anyone know what happened to the supposed new release that Sharon said we’d have before year end? Or did I dream that?

No idea, but I do wonder why Sharon's Q&A and the poll for the next release are not a sticky anymore. I was really looking forward to Part 3.

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