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Reply #30 posted 10/27/17 11:14am

OldFriends4Sal
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1725topp said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Very good question.

I've asked the same.

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Like listening to the Nice France 10.27.1985 show

they killed Temptation

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why no do Temptation & Pop Life along with Paisley Park and America

as well as An Honest Man, Love or Money & Go

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Instead of Delirous Little Red Corvette & Purple Rain

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but even more directly to the 1987 shows, they rehearsed Strange Relationship, Ballad of Dorothy Parker, and Cat said the played around with Crystal Ball

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Maybe Prince needed to tell a story and certain songs didn't fit with the SOTT narrative

Prince really started getting into 'delivering' a message of Love or God during the PR tour but it intensified with Under the Cherry Moon movie(not Parade tour) but even more with SOTT and full blown on the Lovesexy tour

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First, ditto on everything you said. Damn, I still hate that we never got a proper, funky-ass rockin' version of "Temptation," "Paisley Park," or "America" thought at least we got a little bit of them. And, I completely agree with Prince's need to tell a story or to have all the story's fit within some lyrical, musical, or emotive context. Why else would he omit so many killer songs from various albums unless they just didn't fit the context of the album? But, shit, mane, he could have gave us that "Temptation" "full on, no holds barred, thank you and good night, ain't no mo gon' be left after I finish playing this one" treatment! I shudder with chills just to think about it. But, then, again, I shudder with chills about all the great live performances he gave us as well.

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The edit is that I had to return to say but I do so love the verison of "Paisley Park" from Piano and a Microphone from the Paisley Park shows.

[Edited 10/27/17 9:51am]

America on the Nice,France show was crankin and sexy, he always cut it short on the Parade tour

When he did Paisley Park live it was wonderful

they did it on the Parade open rehearsal at First Avenue, and a couple times on the Parade tour

and then the Piano & Microphone shows

.

But I'm listening to Temptation now, and just the full on rawness that we heard prior to the 'fame' kicking in a little later. Reminds me Dirty Mind Prince

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1985 since he didn't need to do another world tour, some random shows across the country promoting the ATWIAD music... doing a killer funk rock show at a famous local club/bar ending with Temptation...full on, no holds barred, thank u and good night, ain't no mo gon' be left after I finish playing this one'

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Reply #31 posted 10/27/17 3:58pm

1725topp

OldFriends4Sale said:

1725topp said:

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First, ditto on everything you said. Damn, I still hate that we never got a proper, funky-ass rockin' version of "Temptation," "Paisley Park," or "America" thought at least we got a little bit of them. And, I completely agree with Prince's need to tell a story or to have all the story's fit within some lyrical, musical, or emotive context. Why else would he omit so many killer songs from various albums unless they just didn't fit the context of the album? But, shit, mane, he could have gave us that "Temptation" "full on, no holds barred, thank you and good night, ain't no mo gon' be left after I finish playing this one" treatment! I shudder with chills just to think about it. But, then, again, I shudder with chills about all the great live performances he gave us as well.

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The edit is that I had to return to say but I do so love the verison of "Paisley Park" from Piano and a Microphone from the Paisley Park shows.

[Edited 10/27/17 9:51am]

America on the Nice,France show was crankin and sexy, he always cut it short on the Parade tour

When he did Paisley Park live it was wonderful

they did it on the Parade open rehearsal at First Avenue, and a couple times on the Parade tour

and then the Piano & Microphone shows

.

But I'm listening to Temptation now, and just the full on rawness that we heard prior to the 'fame' kicking in a little later. Reminds me Dirty Mind Prince

.

1985 since he didn't need to do another world tour, some random shows across the country promoting the ATWIAD music... doing a killer funk rock show at a famous local club/bar ending with Temptation...full on, no holds barred, thank u and good night, ain't no mo gon' be left after I finish playing this one'

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Yeah, man!!! I gotta stop. I ain't felt like this in a minute. This conversation is making me both happy and sad. Happy that we got to witness his genius. Sad that it's gone. Damn, dat li'l mo'fo was baaaaaaaaaaad!!! Warts and all, he was a baaaaaaaaad mo'fo!!!

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Reply #32 posted 10/27/17 4:44pm

paulludvig

The Temptation rehearsal is cool, but a faithful rendition of the song. The version relies on Prince's delivery. The rehearsal of Shockadelica is a reinterpretation. The song is re-imagined for a live setting.
[Edited 10/27/17 16:50pm]
The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #33 posted 10/27/17 5:49pm

OldFriends4Sal
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paulludvig said:

The Temptation rehearsal is cool, but a faithful rendition of the song. The version relies on Prince's delivery. The rehearsal of Shockadelica is a reinterpretation. The song is re-imagined for a live setting. [Edited 10/27/17 16:50pm]

But it is still dependant on Prince's delivery. Without it where does it go? I mean Shockadelica the lp/studio cut when translated to this live set, needs Prince to take it someplace or it just drags out.
Strange Relationship from the 1987 show was done from me when they went into the 'Ya Yah'

Musically after the lyrical parts it didn't build anymore. It was too long.

It could be why it was never performed live, because he didn't know how to take it further in that version? But if they did the rendition of the album, it would have been climactic.

I mean Prince's music back then was so unique (to me at least) hearing it rendered live was orgasmic.

Don't get me wrong, I love this expression of the song. But like Strange Relationship, they were probably not done live because Prince didn't feel the songs that way delivered. I wish he would have done it as the single cut as well.

I think that is also why songs like Adore, were not really 'dealt' with because, running it through a show would not give it justice. Adore needed 3-4 singers, someone devoted to finger cymbals and other percussion, flutes and all the particular sounds to really do it justice.

Even IT live I could only hear once in a while. It was climactic, and I would have to see it being performed. I think the studio cut I could be more appreciative of it rendered as is. I still wanted that little guitar solo

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Reply #34 posted 10/27/17 6:04pm

OldFriends4Sal
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1725topp said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

America on the Nice,France show was crankin and sexy, he always cut it short on the Parade tour

When he did Paisley Park live it was wonderful

they did it on the Parade open rehearsal at First Avenue, and a couple times on the Parade tour

and then the Piano & Microphone shows

.

But I'm listening to Temptation now, and just the full on rawness that we heard prior to the 'fame' kicking in a little later. Reminds me Dirty Mind Prince

.

1985 since he didn't need to do another world tour, some random shows across the country promoting the ATWIAD music... doing a killer funk rock show at a famous local club/bar ending with Temptation...full on, no holds barred, thank u and good night, ain't no mo gon' be left after I finish playing this one'

*

Yeah, man!!! I gotta stop. I ain't felt like this in a minute. This conversation is making me both happy and sad. Happy that we got to witness his genius. Sad that it's gone. Damn, dat li'l mo'fo was baaaaaaaaaaad!!! Warts and all, he was a baaaaaaaaad mo'fo!!!

Yeah hearing these rehearsal especially from what I call the golden purple era is so meloncholy

A buddy of mine called me while I was in a store after hearing them and we had the same expression

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