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Thread started 09/19/17 11:41am

Seahorsie

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His surgery for hip pain...did he actually have it?

One if the things you always seem to hear is that he had to have surgery on both hips to alleviate (hopefully ) the pain from performing. Does anyone know for sure if Prince actually got it done...and was it starting to help any? My own son suffered from drug addiction, and I am so sad thinking nothing was helping him...
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Reply #1 posted 09/19/17 11:57am

coldasice

The autopsy said he had scars. I think he just had scar tissue removed. He wouldn't have underwent full hip replacement
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Reply #2 posted 09/19/17 12:03pm

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coldasice said:

The autopsy said he had scars. I think he just had scar tissue removed. He wouldn't have underwent full hip replacement

Billy Sparks told Tom Joyner Prince had hip surgery but it was not replacment. I think he may have just had scar tissue removed as well. He just did not have a lot of down time in the late 2009 to 2010 time frame.

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Reply #3 posted 09/19/17 12:26pm

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laurarichardson said:

coldasice said:

The autopsy said he had scars. I think he just had scar tissue removed. He wouldn't have underwent full hip replacement

Billy Sparks told Tom Joyner Prince had hip surgery but it was not replacment. I think he may have just had scar tissue removed as well. He just did not have a lot of down time in the late 2009 to 2010 time frame.

my mom had a full one and the dr's want u up and moving the next day, and she was not a young chicken. so down time is not so much required, but of course every surgery and circumstance is different.

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purplefam99 said:



laurarichardson said:




coldasice said:


The autopsy said he had scars. I think he just had scar tissue removed. He wouldn't have underwent full hip replacement

Billy Sparks told Tom Joyner Prince had hip surgery but it was not replacment. I think he may have just had scar tissue removed as well. He just did not have a lot of down time in the late 2009 to 2010 time frame.



my mom had a full one and the dr's want u up and moving the next day, and she was not a young chicken. so down time is not so much required, but of course every surgery and circumstance is different.



--Well Billy said it was not hip replacement surgery but hip surgery.
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Reply #5 posted 09/19/17 2:28pm

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laurarichardson said:

coldasice said:

The autopsy said he had scars. I think he just had scar tissue removed. He wouldn't have underwent full hip replacement

Billy Sparks told Tom Joyner Prince had hip surgery but it was not replacment. I think he may have just had scar tissue removed as well. He just did not have a lot of down time in the late 2009 to 2010 time frame.


I have a friend, who is a nurse leading in his city and field. He noted that Prince only had one scar, not two. That very likely indicates a removal of scar tissue, as ColdAsIc noted. He'd have two scars for a full-on hip-replacement. But the one scar on one side is probably the tissue removal. Both hips can be worked on with one incision. A replacement takes two. Billy Sparks is right.

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Reply #6 posted 09/19/17 2:36pm

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laurarichardson said:

purplefam99 said:

my mom had a full one and the dr's want u up and moving the next day, and she was not a young chicken. so down time is not so much required, but of course every surgery and circumstance is different.

--Well Billy said it was not hip replacement surgery but hip surgery.

ah ok then i didn't realize there was something they could do before replacement.

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Reply #7 posted 09/19/17 2:37pm

purplefam99

TrivialPursuit said:

laurarichardson said:

Billy Sparks told Tom Joyner Prince had hip surgery but it was not replacment. I think he may have just had scar tissue removed as well. He just did not have a lot of down time in the late 2009 to 2010 time frame.


I have a friend, who is a nurse leading in his city and field. He noted that Prince only had one scar, not two. That very likely indicates a removal of scar tissue, as ColdAsIc noted. He'd have two scars for a full-on hip-replacement. But the one scar on one side is probably the tissue removal. Both hips can be worked on with one incision. A replacement takes two. Billy Sparks is right.

thx i didn't realize 2 incisions meant replacement. thx.

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Reply #8 posted 09/19/17 3:56pm

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Do they replace hips if they aren't broken. Is joint pain considered to be as justified a reason for hip replacement as a broken hip? This is not a rhetorical question. I am just wondering.

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Reply #9 posted 09/19/17 4:40pm

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He could have had other problemm in that area. I have a pinched nerve in my lower back and it's extremely painful all day long. I can function and walk but the pain is almost unbearable even with pain meds ( hydrocodone ). I only take them because it helps me move and not be stiff but does little to nothing for actual pain for me. BTW my pinched nerve is caused by a bone spur
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Reply #10 posted 09/19/17 4:42pm

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purplefam99 said:

TrivialPursuit said:


I have a friend, who is a nurse leading in his city and field. He noted that Prince only had one scar, not two. That very likely indicates a removal of scar tissue, as ColdAsIc noted. He'd have two scars for a full-on hip-replacement. But the one scar on one side is probably the tissue removal. Both hips can be worked on with one incision. A replacement takes two. Billy Sparks is right.

thx i didn't realize 2 incisions meant replacement. thx.


I know about five nurses who are close friends, and I did run that thing by them all. They all said the same thing. I do believe that if had gotten the full on hip replacement he'd have been doing a lot better on April 21, 2016.

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Reply #11 posted 09/19/17 5:03pm

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Probably, true. But what needs to be also considered is that he probably had other pain issues as well. I can't imagine with all of his dancing and leaping in high heels that the pain was just concentrated on his hips. And even as much playing as he did might have caused pain. I read recently that Eric Clapton has serious arthritis from all the guitar playing and that Prince used to pound so hard on his piano during the P and M tour that they keep a ice bucket close by to sock his hands in. Also, people talk about Prince's hands being pretty but really it is more because of his manicures. As for his knuckles they were swollen alot of the time.

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TrivialPursuit said:

purplefam99 said:

thx i didn't realize 2 incisions meant replacement. thx.


I know about five nurses who are close friends, and I did run that thing by them all. They all said the same thing. I do believe that if had gotten the full on hip replacement he'd have been doing a lot better on April 21, 2016.

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Reply #12 posted 09/19/17 5:04pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

laurarichardson said:

Billy Sparks told Tom Joyner Prince had hip surgery but it was not replacment. I think he may have just had scar tissue removed as well. He just did not have a lot of down time in the late 2009 to 2010 time frame.


I have a friend, who is a nurse leading in his city and field. He noted that Prince only had one scar, not two. That very likely indicates a removal of scar tissue, as ColdAsIc noted. He'd have two scars for a full-on hip-replacement. But the one scar on one side is probably the tissue removal. Both hips can be worked on with one incision. A replacement takes two. Billy Sparks is right.

Two scars: one scar on the hip, one scar on the ankle.

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Reply #13 posted 09/19/17 5:33pm

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Bodhitheblackdog said:

TrivialPursuit said:


I have a friend, who is a nurse leading in his city and field. He noted that Prince only had one scar, not two. That very likely indicates a removal of scar tissue, as ColdAsIc noted. He'd have two scars for a full-on hip-replacement. But the one scar on one side is probably the tissue removal. Both hips can be worked on with one incision. A replacement takes two. Billy Sparks is right.

Two scars: one scar on the hip, one scar on the ankle.


My point is hip surgery. He's not getting a hip procedure through his damn ankle.

And is the ankle scar an incision, or a battle wound from performing?

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Reply #14 posted 09/19/17 7:09pm

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Well thanx for the responses today on this issue. Still sadder than I want to think about on such a beautiful day. Wish he had someone close to him at that time to advise him in a sound way on his medical issues. He must have felt so alone sometimes....

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Reply #15 posted 09/19/17 11:19pm

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Bodhitheblackdog said:



TrivialPursuit said:




laurarichardson said:



Billy Sparks told Tom Joyner Prince had hip surgery but it was not replacment. I think he may have just had scar tissue removed as well. He just did not have a lot of down time in the late 2009 to 2010 time frame.




I have a friend, who is a nurse leading in his city and field. He noted that Prince only had one scar, not two. That very likely indicates a removal of scar tissue, as ColdAsIc noted. He'd have two scars for a full-on hip-replacement. But the one scar on one side is probably the tissue removal. Both hips can be worked on with one incision. A replacement takes two. Billy Sparks is right.



Two scars: one scar on the hip, one scar on the ankle.



Unrelated.

And to answer another question: Yes, hip replacements are done for reasons besides fractures. Most replacements are done due to severe arthritic changes in the joints.
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Reply #16 posted 09/20/17 2:35am

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purplefam99 said:



laurarichardson said:


purplefam99 said:


my mom had a full one and the dr's want u up and moving the next day, and she was not a young chicken. so down time is not so much required, but of course every surgery and circumstance is different.




--Well Billy said it was not hip replacement surgery but hip surgery.

ah ok then i didn't realize there was something they could do before replacement.


--There are alternative procedures. I also wonder if he was not dealing with
Arithis. I have in my lower back and some days are tough.
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Reply #17 posted 09/20/17 3:23am

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laurarichardson said:

purplefam99 said:

ah ok then i didn't realize there was something they could do before replacement.

--There are alternative procedures. I also wonder if he was not dealing with Arithis. I have in my lower back and some days are tough.

The repetitive movements envolved in plkaying a musical instrument may cause severe artritis and also carpal tunnel syndrome. I know a few musicians and even some office workers who have had surgery for those issues, due to the repetitive movements.

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Reply #18 posted 09/20/17 3:59am

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MMJas said:

laurarichardson said:

purplefam99 said: --There are alternative procedures. I also wonder if he was not dealing with Arithis. I have in my lower back and some days are tough.

The repetitive movements envolved in plkaying a musical instrument may cause severe artritis and also carpal tunnel syndrome. I know a few musicians and even some office workers who have had surgery for those issues, due to the repetitive movements.

I remember an interview with a guy that tuned Prince's piano at his home and Paisley Park in the 90s he said he was tuning the piano every other day because that is how much Prince was playing it.

It would not surprise me if he was dealing with arithias and carpal tunnel. It simpley over played. I even remember an interview with Sheila E years ago were she said she had back pain from overplaying.

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Reply #19 posted 09/20/17 4:39am

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MMJas said:

laurarichardson said:

purplefam99 said: --There are alternative procedures. I also wonder if he was not dealing with Arithis. I have in my lower back and some days are tough.

The repetitive movements envolved in plkaying a musical instrument may cause severe artritis and also carpal tunnel syndrome. I know a few musicians and even some office workers who have had surgery for those issues, due to the repetitive movements.

Actually, with Prince being a multi-instrumentalist and considering the differing usages of one's hands and arms when playing the guitar or piano for example, that would make carpal tunnel syndrome less likely. Heavy computer usage would be more of a contributory issue.

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Reply #20 posted 09/20/17 5:47am

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jjam said:

MMJas said:

The repetitive movements envolved in plkaying a musical instrument may cause severe artritis and also carpal tunnel syndrome. I know a few musicians and even some office workers who have had surgery for those issues, due to the repetitive movements.

Actually, with Prince being a multi-instrumentalist and considering the differing usages of one's hands and arms when playing the guitar or piano for example, that would make carpal tunnel syndrome less likely. Heavy computer usage would be more of a contributory issue.

Is that the reason he was wearing an ace bandage under those wrist bands

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Reply #21 posted 09/20/17 8:07am

purplefam99

MMJas said:



laurarichardson said:


purplefam99 said:


ah ok then i didn't realize there was something they could do before replacement.



--There are alternative procedures. I also wonder if he was not dealing with Arithis. I have in my lower back and some days are tough.


The repetitive movements envolved in plkaying a musical instrument may cause severe artritis and also carpal tunnel syndrome. I know a few musicians and even some office workers who have had surgery for those issues, due to the repetitive movements.



I tend to agree that arthritis was probably at play to some degree.
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Reply #22 posted 09/20/17 7:13pm

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I heard he broke his ankle during a concert and that is why there is a scar on his ankle.

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Reply #23 posted 09/20/17 7:27pm

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I heard he broke his ankle during a concert and that is why there is a scar on his ankle.


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The coroner report said "lower right leg", not "ankle".
Those are specific locations.
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Reply #24 posted 09/20/17 8:30pm

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laytonian said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

I heard he broke his ankle during a concert and that is why there is a scar on his ankle.

. The coroner report said "lower right leg", not "ankle". Those are specific locations.

Ankle surgery scars goes from lower leg to the ankle.

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Reply #25 posted 09/20/17 8:36pm

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purplefam99 said:

MMJas said:



laurarichardson said:


purplefam99 said:


ah ok then i didn't realize there was something they could do before replacement.



--There are alternative procedures. I also wonder if he was not dealing with Arithis. I have in my lower back and some days are tough.


The repetitive movements envolved in plkaying a musical instrument may cause severe artritis and also carpal tunnel syndrome. I know a few musicians and even some office workers who have had surgery for those issues, due to the repetitive movements.



I tend to agree that arthritis was probably at play to some degree.




If he had serious arthritis or joint issues in his hands or wrists I don't think he would have been physically capable of continuing to play the way he did, I do not recall his playing declining in anyway. Serious joint issues are painful but they are also immobilizing, you get stiff lose radius of motion etc. I just did not see it, or hear it ever...
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Reply #26 posted 09/20/17 10:20pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

I heard he broke his ankle during a concert and that is why there is a scar on his ankle.

http://www.mtv.com/news/1433328/prince-postpones-tour-after-on-stage-accident/

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Reply #27 posted 09/20/17 10:48pm

laytonian

ludwig said:



ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:


I heard he broke his ankle during a concert and that is why there is a scar on his ankle.



http://www.mtv.com/news/1433328/prince-postpones-tour-after-on-stage-accident/



He was back I your I the weeks -- that soon after surgery on an ankle? If that's the cause of the scar.
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Reply #28 posted 09/21/17 2:10am

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LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

purplefam99 said:
I tend to agree that arthritis was probably at play to some degree.
If he had serious arthritis or joint issues in his hands or wrists I don't think he would have been physically capable of continuing to play the way he did, I do not recall his playing declining in anyway. Serious joint issues are painful but they are also immobilizing, you get stiff lose radius of motion etc. I just did not see it, or hear it ever...

I f he was self medicating nobody would have notice any difference. That's the whole point of taking pain medication.

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MMJas said:



LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:


purplefam99 said:
I tend to agree that arthritis was probably at play to some degree.

If he had serious arthritis or joint issues in his hands or wrists I don't think he would have been physically capable of continuing to play the way he did, I do not recall his playing declining in anyway. Serious joint issues are painful but they are also immobilizing, you get stiff lose radius of motion etc. I just did not see it, or hear it ever...


I f he was self medicating nobody would have notice any difference. That's the whole point of taking pain medication.





Masking the pain with medication does not change or halt the progression of arthritis, which is very damaging to the health and mobility of joints. There are medications that can help with the degeneration associated with arthritis, but you do not buy them on the street corner. People who are successfully managing debilitating joint disease see a rheumatologist regularly...
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