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Reply #30 posted 09/20/17 8:19am

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claudemorton said:

I don't love or hate the estate, but I hold zero faith that they will get things together in a way that makes the releasing of the music us true fans want to hear efficient, timely, and worthwhile.

The Purple Rain Deluxe was whatever, it was great to get about four of those songs on the unrealesed disc, but to not include something more, or something since, is a great disappointment.

The court stuff can be resolved if parties want to resolve it, I don't see any interest in that happening. If members of the estate can't even agree on what color was Prince's favorite, how in the hell are they going to work on releasing tons of music? Plus the attack on fans, fan sites, removing of videos, all bad signs of folks not interested in "freeing the music".

My only hope is that the vault gets digitized, and we get our hands on it, and circulate it among the channels we have been circulating a lot of the bootlegs through already. That doesn't mean we won't buy the official releases, as we always do, but some of us ain't going to live forever, so waiting on an estate is not really an option for some of us.

Right now, the Estates hands are tied. They can do nothing til all of this gets resolved. People are still making claims against the Estate, so NO that's not true if the parties wanted it resolved, it would get resolved.


Heck yeah, the things are getting taken down, they aren't legal. I don't blame them for taking that stuff down.

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Reply #31 posted 09/20/17 9:36am

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laurarichardson said:

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I'm a little confused: the links leads me to a complete list of 91 random songs only.

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SACEM is the French equivalent to ASCAP or BMI in the States.

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I used to check the ASCAP list back when P's catalogue was still administered by them, and many unreleased songs, as well as a few released ones (internet releases usually) weren't registered. But overall there were something in the lines of 800+ compositions registered, much more than there on SACEM. Also, it is to be noted that certain rap songs using Prince samples were listed among original Prince compositions, which could create confusion about them being genuine outtakes.

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I've never been able to figure out how to access the list of songs registered at the Library Of Congress online. Any help with this would be much appreciated.

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I think it's a mistake with SOTT's credits: Per Nilsen searched the Library of Congress and ASCAP records back in the days and there was never any such finding. Many of us also looked into the ASCAP list and no one ever noticed any such thing. It's likely someone fucked-up at SACEM.

Could be a screw up but why stick certain band members names in and not others why these people. Remember his sister said they had 1800 songs so far. Like I said I am sure if the estate finds that material is not copyrighted they will take care of it now.

Actually do u have a link towards that list of songs recently unveiled among documents? I didn't have any time to look it up at the time and don't know where to find it anymore

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Reply #32 posted 09/20/17 10:34am

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databank said:

laurarichardson said:

Could be a screw up but why stick certain band members names in and not others why these people. Remember his sister said they had 1800 songs so far. Like I said I am sure if the estate finds that material is not copyrighted they will take care of it now.

Actually do u have a link towards that list of songs recently unveiled among documents? I didn't have any time to look it up at the time and don't know where to find it anymore

I have a printed copy somewhere I have to find it and see if I can get a list of the songs on the board

I did not realize so much info concerning estate assests would be readacted or place under seal?

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Reply #33 posted 09/20/17 10:34am

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PennyPurple said:

claudemorton said:

I don't love or hate the estate, but I hold zero faith that they will get things together in a way that makes the releasing of the music us true fans want to hear efficient, timely, and worthwhile.

The Purple Rain Deluxe was whatever, it was great to get about four of those songs on the unrealesed disc, but to not include something more, or something since, is a great disappointment.

The court stuff can be resolved if parties want to resolve it, I don't see any interest in that happening. If members of the estate can't even agree on what color was Prince's favorite, how in the hell are they going to work on releasing tons of music? Plus the attack on fans, fan sites, removing of videos, all bad signs of folks not interested in "freeing the music".

My only hope is that the vault gets digitized, and we get our hands on it, and circulate it among the channels we have been circulating a lot of the bootlegs through already. That doesn't mean we won't buy the official releases, as we always do, but some of us ain't going to live forever, so waiting on an estate is not really an option for some of us.

Right now, the Estates hands are tied. They can do nothing til all of this gets resolved. People are still making claims against the Estate, so NO that's not true if the parties wanted it resolved, it would get resolved.


Heck yeah, the things are getting taken down, they aren't legal. I don't blame them for taking that stuff down.

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