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Reply #30 posted 09/10/17 3:15pm

purplefam99

" ooooowe she was one fine mama!!!!!"

"Ohhhh come here mamasita!"

"Come here mama and show me some love"
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Reply #31 posted 09/10/17 3:18pm

purplerabbitho
le

good point

laurarichardson said:

You guys realize that brothers sometimes call girls "Mamas"

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Reply #32 posted 09/10/17 5:49pm

206Michelle

This song must be unreleased. I looked up MRUL on PrinceVault, but PV does not have any information about it.

OldFriends4Sale said:

This song is a very haunting piece.
More so than Fathers Song.

Without even understand the lyrics, you can feel the anguish in the soft 2 hardness of Prince's touch on the keys, his vocal delivery from soft to harsh, the screeching near the end

Interesting piece, on the verge of his Purple Rain, dealing with a mix of emotions and motivations in 1983

.

Mama
Mama
Was it strange?
Strange

Mama

Mama

Was it strange

strange

Mama

W....

Mama

Mama

...

Mama what's this?

Mama why ....?

Why b.....?

.

Prince's relationship with his mother comes up in very short pieces in his music

The love of a mother or the lack of affection ...

Not too many of his piano pieces and demos I don't adore

.

Maybe I'm just like my mother

She's never satisfied

Live 4 Love ~ Love is God, God is love, Girls and boys love God above
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Reply #33 posted 09/11/17 1:56am

MMJas

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purplerabbithole said:

I am not sure how one couldn't call this family poor or at least financially struggling at some point in their history. A woman in the 1960's with three jobs sounds like a struggle to me. A musician who works in a factory during the day sounds like struggling to me.

Another thought about Mattie--Working as a social worker, one would think, would make her more empathetic and understanding if her own son is struggling but the reality is that Prince's issues may have been too subtle compared to what she was seeing on a daily basis in her job. She might have figured his musical longing, loneliness, and stepdad/dad issues were tame compared to what she was dealing with at work. Being locked in a closet by your stepdad seems horrible to most of us but compared to sexual abuse, beatings, neglect to the point of no food or heat or shelter, maybe she thought her son's issues were not as crucial to deal with. Obviously that would be an error.

A social worker who allows her husband to lock her child from a previous marriage in a room for hours?

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Reply #34 posted 09/11/17 5:23am

OldFriends4Sal
e

yeah unreleased, done during some of his 1983/1984 piano sessions

206Michelle said:

This song must be unreleased. I looked up MRUL on PrinceVault, but PV does not have any information about it.

OldFriends4Sale said:

This song is a very haunting piece.
More so than Fathers Song.

Without even understand the lyrics, you can feel the anguish in the soft 2 hardness of Prince's touch on the keys, his vocal delivery from soft to harsh, the screeching near the end

Interesting piece, on the verge of his Purple Rain, dealing with a mix of emotions and motivations in 1983

.

Mama
Mama
Was it strange?
Strange

Mama

Mama

Was it strange

strange

Mama

W....

Mama

Mama

...

Mama what's this?

Mama why ....?

Why b.....?

.

Prince's relationship with his mother comes up in very short pieces in his music

The love of a mother or the lack of affection ...

Not too many of his piano pieces and demos I don't adore

.

Maybe I'm just like my mother

She's never satisfied

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Reply #35 posted 09/11/17 5:26am

OldFriends4Sal
e

laurarichardson said:

You guys realize that brothers sometimes call girls "Mamas"

men in general call women 'mama' same with women calling men daddy papi etc

But what does this mean? In sexuality he is clearly saying Mama

The difference in the music is clear Mama vs Mamas

Are you refering to the song in the opening or from Sexuality, both are Mama

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Reply #36 posted 09/11/17 5:28am

OldFriends4Sal
e

purplefam99 said:

" ooooooooooowe she was one fine mama!!!!!" "Ohhhh come here mamasita!" "Come here mama and show me some love"

yep most people know that the human race does that for whatever reason

a bit twisted

Mama (spank me)-Daddy Papi(chulo) Big Daddy Mamma Mia(Italian)

.

But there are certain songs clearly by content he is refering to his Mama

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Reply #37 posted 09/11/17 5:35am

laurarichardso
n

OldFriends4Sale said:

laurarichardson said:

You guys realize that brothers sometimes call girls "Mamas"

men in general call women 'mama' same with women calling men daddy papi etc

But what does this mean? In sexuality he is clearly saying Mama

The difference in the music is clear Mama vs Mamas

Are you refering to the song in the opening or from Sexuality, both are Mama

SNIP-Flamebait

IN the Mama song which I heard on YOUTUBE I believe he is discussing his mom. I believe he is discussing his mom in" Like a Motherless child"

I do not think he is discussing his mon on Sexuality ( I think he means Mama like girlfriend) Do I think he had some inapproiate stuff going on with his mom sure it is not unusaul in the black community for single moms to get to attached to their sons. As sometimes sons are treating like husbands and the de facto man of the house.

When his mom remarried Prince lost his spot 'as the man of the house" and I am sure some salty feelings was the result. I think his salty feelings, his Dad's issues, and the fact that Andre's brother was a pimp and Prince was around him as a young man has a lot to do with his women chasing and disrespect for women which seemed even extreme for a Rock n Roller.

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Reply #38 posted 09/11/17 6:06am

OldFriends4Sal
e

laurarichardson said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

men in general call women 'mama' same with women calling men daddy papi etc

But what does this mean? In sexuality he is clearly saying Mama

The difference in the music is clear Mama vs Mamas

Are you refering to the song in the opening or from Sexuality, both are Mama

SNIP - Flamebait

IN the Mama song which I heard on YOUTUBE I believe he is discussing his mom. I believe he is discussing his mom in" Like a Motherless child"

I do not think he is discussing his mon on Sexuality ( I think he means Mama like girlfriend) Do I think he had some inapproiate stuff going on with his mom sure it is not unusaul in the black community for single moms to get to attached to their sons. As sometimes sons are treating like husbands and the de facto man of the house.

When his mom remarried Prince lost his spot 'as the man of the house" and I am sure some salty feelings was the result. I think his salty feelings, his Dad's issues, and the fact that Andre's brother was a pimp and Prince was around him as a young man has a lot to do with his women chasing and disrespect for women which seemed even extreme for a Rock n Roller.

The song: SEXUALITY is talking about raising a child. That song is not about SEX, that is a social issue song.

.

'don't let you children watch television until they know how to read...' etc

.

Sexuality and all its 'abstract' occurances yes in the 'black community' that happens but with Italian mothers who revere their sons x's 5, Latino mothers and their sons, Jewish mothers other ethnic groups as well. Especially the ones where the male child has a certain status.

We are all connected.

gq-mexico-jun-2011-monica-bellucci.jpg

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Reply #39 posted 09/11/17 12:49pm

laurarichardso
n

OldFriends4Sale said:

laurarichardson said:

SNIP - Flamebait

IN the Mama song which I heard on YOUTUBE I believe he is discussing his mom. I believe he is discussing his mom in" Like a Motherless child"

I do not think he is discussing his mon on Sexuality ( I think he means Mama like girlfriend) Do I think he had some inapproiate stuff going on with his mom sure it is not unusaul in the black community for single moms to get to attached to their sons. As sometimes sons are treating like husbands and the de facto man of the house.

When his mom remarried Prince lost his spot 'as the man of the house" and I am sure some salty feelings was the result. I think his salty feelings, his Dad's issues, and the fact that Andre's brother was a pimp and Prince was around him as a young man has a lot to do with his women chasing and disrespect for women which seemed even extreme for a Rock n Roller.

The song: SEXUALITY is talking about raising a child. That song is not about SEX, that is a social issue song.

.

'don't let you children watch television until they know how to read...' etc

.

Sexuality and all its 'abstract' occurances yes in the 'black community' that happens but with Italian mothers who revere their sons x's 5, Latino mothers and their sons, Jewish mothers other ethnic groups as well. Especially the ones where the male child has a certain status.

We are all connected.

The whole song is Prince's manifesto.

When brothers are walking down the street cat calling women and calling them Mama's they are not thinking about their moms. Stop trying to pretend Prince fell out of a space pod he was fully formed by his experiences as an African - American male growing up in the 60 and 70s.

He moved on to other things but by all accounts he was still a brother he never lost his pimp walk.

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Reply #40 posted 09/11/17 12:51pm

laurarichardso
n

OldFriends4Sale said:

laurarichardson said:

SNIP - Flamebait

IN the Mama song which I heard on YOUTUBE I believe he is discussing his mom. I believe he is discussing his mom in" Like a Motherless child"

I do not think he is discussing his mon on Sexuality ( I think he means Mama like girlfriend) Do I think he had some inapproiate stuff going on with his mom sure it is not unusaul in the black community for single moms to get to attached to their sons. As sometimes sons are treating like husbands and the de facto man of the house.

When his mom remarried Prince lost his spot 'as the man of the house" and I am sure some salty feelings was the result. I think his salty feelings, his Dad's issues, and the fact that Andre's brother was a pimp and Prince was around him as a young man has a lot to do with his women chasing and disrespect for women which seemed even extreme for a Rock n Roller.

The song: SEXUALITY is talking about raising a child. That song is not about SEX, that is a social issue song.

.

'don't let you children watch television until they know how to read...' etc

.

Sexuality and all its 'abstract' occurances yes in the 'black community' that happens but with Italian mothers who revere their sons x's 5, Latino mothers and their sons, Jewish mothers other ethnic groups as well. Especially the ones where the male child has a certain status.

We are all connected.

SNIP - flamebait

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Reply #41 posted 09/11/17 1:05pm

OldFriends4Sal
e

laurarichardson said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

The song: SEXUALITY is talking about raising a child. That song is not about SEX, that is a social issue song.

.

'don't let you children watch television until they know how to read...' etc

.

Sexuality and all its 'abstract' occurances yes in the 'black community' that happens but with Italian mothers who revere their sons x's 5, Latino mothers and their sons, Jewish mothers other ethnic groups as well. Especially the ones where the male child has a certain status.

We are all connected.

The whole song is Prince's manifesto.

When brothers are walking down the street cat calling women and calling them Mama's they are not thinking about their moms. Stop trying to pretend Prince fell out of a space pod he was fully formed by his experiences as an African - American male growing up in the 60 and 70s.

He moved on to other things but by all accounts he was still a brother he never lost his pimp walk.

stop flaming the thread please

.

I posted the lyrics to the song. Be reasonable. The song is not about sex, nor is it about a girlfriend. The song is dealing with social consciousness

.

We need a New Breed Leaders stand up Organize

The thread is centered around the unreleased piano piece Mama from 1983

If you haven't heard it ok, but if you have why not share your appreciation for the song instead

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Reply #42 posted 09/11/17 1:32pm

laurarichardso
n

OldFriends4Sale said:



laurarichardson said:




OldFriends4Sale said:






The song: SEXUALITY is talking about raising a child. That song is not about SEX, that is a social issue song.


.


'don't let you children watch television until they know how to read...' etc


.


Sexuality and all its 'abstract' occurances yes in the 'black community' that happens but with Italian mothers who revere their sons x's 5, Latino mothers and their sons, Jewish mothers other ethnic groups as well. Especially the ones where the male child has a certain status.


We are all connected.



The whole song is Prince's manifesto.



When brothers are walking down the street cat calling women and calling them Mama's they are not thinking about their moms. Stop trying to pretend Prince fell out of a space pod he was fully formed by his experiences as an African - American male growing up in the 60 and 70s.



He moved on to other things but by all accounts he was still a brother he never lost his pimp walk.




stop flaming the thread please


.


I posted the lyrics to the song. Be reasonable. The song is not about sex, nor is it about a girlfriend. The song is dealing with social consciousness


.


We need a New Breed Leaders stand up Organize


The thread is centered around the unreleased piano piece Mama from 1983


If you haven't heard it ok, but if you have why not share your appreciation for the song instead





--But you can go on about some Italtian mess. I do not agree that the use of mama by Prince in all of his songs was about his mom. I already said I heard the song you are referring to and I agree he is talking about his mom on that song.
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Reply #43 posted 09/11/17 3:27pm

luvsexy4all

OldFriends4Sale said:

laurarichardson said:

SNIP - Flamebait

IN the Mama song which I heard on YOUTUBE I believe he is discussing his mom. I believe he is discussing his mom in" Like a Motherless child"

I do not think he is discussing his mon on Sexuality ( I think he means Mama like girlfriend) Do I think he had some inapproiate stuff going on with his mom sure it is not unusaul in the black community for single moms to get to attached to their sons. As sometimes sons are treating like husbands and the de facto man of the house.

When his mom remarried Prince lost his spot 'as the man of the house" and I am sure some salty feelings was the result. I think his salty feelings, his Dad's issues, and the fact that Andre's brother was a pimp and Prince was around him as a young man has a lot to do with his women chasing and disrespect for women which seemed even extreme for a Rock n Roller.

The song: SEXUALITY is talking about raising a child. That song is not about SEX, that is a social issue song.

.

'don't let you children watch television until they know how to read...' etc

.

Sexuality and all its 'abstract' occurances yes in the 'black community' that happens but with Italian mothers who revere their sons x's 5, Latino mothers and their sons, Jewish mothers other ethnic groups as well. Especially the ones where the male child has a certain status.

We are all connected.

gq-mexico-jun-2011-monica-bellucci.jpg

that woman being probably the hottest mom

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Reply #44 posted 09/11/17 3:57pm

purplefam99

OldFriends4Sale said:



purplefam99 said:


" ooooowe she was one fine mama!!!!!" "Ohhhh come here mamasita!" "Come here mama and show me some love"


yep most people know that the human race does that for whatever reason



a bit twisted



Mama (spank me)-Daddy Papi(chulo) Big Daddy Mamma Mia(Italian)


.


But there are certain songs clearly by content he is refering to his Mama




Mama spank me is one I had not heard.
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Reply #45 posted 09/11/17 4:03pm

purplefam99

luvsexy4all said:



OldFriends4Sale said:




laurarichardson said:



SNIP - Flamebait



IN the Mama song which I heard on YOUTUBE I believe he is discussing his mom. I believe he is discussing his mom in" Like a Motherless child"



I do not think he is discussing his mon on Sexuality ( I think he means Mama like girlfriend) Do I think he had some inapproiate stuff going on with his mom sure it is not unusaul in the black community for single moms to get to attached to their sons. As sometimes sons are treating like husbands and the de facto man of the house.



When his mom remarried Prince lost his spot 'as the man of the house" and I am sure some salty feelings was the result. I think his salty feelings, his Dad's issues, and the fact that Andre's brother was a pimp and Prince was around him as a young man has a lot to do with his women chasing and disrespect for women which seemed even extreme for a Rock n Roller.








The song: SEXUALITY is talking about raising a child. That song is not about SEX, that is a social issue song.


.


'don't let you children watch television until they know how to read...' etc


.


Sexuality and all its 'abstract' occurances yes in the 'black community' that happens but with Italian mothers who revere their sons x's 5, Latino mothers and their sons, Jewish mothers other ethnic groups as well. Especially the ones where the male child has a certain status.


We are all connected.

gq-mexico-jun-2011-monica-bellucci.jpg



that woman being probably the hottest mom



For sure and all the rest of the mom's once ran thru photoshop.
They all can look "magazine" good.
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Reply #46 posted 09/11/17 4:06pm

purplefam99

OldFriends4Sale said:


This song is a very haunting piece.
More so than Fathers Song.


Without even understand the lyrics, you can feel the anguish in the soft 2 hardness of Prince's touch on the keys, his vocal delivery from soft to harsh, the screeching near the end



Interesting piece, on the verge of his Purple Rain, dealing with a mix of emotions and motivations in 1983


.


Mama
Mama
Was it strange?
Strange


Mama


Mama


Was it strange


strange


Mama


W....


Mama


Mama




...



Mama what's this?


Mama why ....?


Why b.....?


.


Prince's relationship with his mother comes up in very short pieces in his music


The love of a mother or the lack of affection ...


Not too many of his piano pieces and demos I don't adore



.


Maybe I'm just like my mother


She's never satisfied




So do you think he is talking about his mother in those lyrics you posted?
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Reply #47 posted 09/11/17 4:06pm

OldFriends4Sal
e

purplefam99 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

yep most people know that the human race does that for whatever reason

a bit twisted

Mama (spank me)-Daddy Papi(chulo) Big Daddy Mamma Mia(Italian)

.

But there are certain songs clearly by content he is refering to his Mama

Mama spank me is one I had not heard.

No I haven't

What I typed up there was Spank Me Daddy

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Reply #48 posted 09/11/17 4:07pm

OldFriends4Sal
e

purplefam99 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

This song is a very haunting piece.
More so than Fathers Song.

Without even understand the lyrics, you can feel the anguish in the soft 2 hardness of Prince's touch on the keys, his vocal delivery from soft to harsh, the screeching near the end

Interesting piece, on the verge of his Purple Rain, dealing with a mix of emotions and motivations in 1983

.

Mama
Mama
Was it strange?
Strange

Mama

Mama

Was it strange

strange

Mama

W....

Mama

Mama

...

Mama what's this?

Mama why ....?

Why b.....?

.

Prince's relationship with his mother comes up in very short pieces in his music

The love of a mother or the lack of affection ...

Not too many of his piano pieces and demos I don't adore

.

Maybe I'm just like my mother

She's never satisfied

So do you think he is talking about his mother in those lyrics you posted?

Which lyrics? the piano piece 'Mama'? Of course

Have you heard it?

I can easily see what I heard going along with the unedited Purple Rain script

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Reply #49 posted 09/11/17 4:12pm

OldFriends4Sal
e

laurarichardson said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

stop flaming the thread please

.

I posted the lyrics to the song. Be reasonable. The song is not about sex, nor is it about a girlfriend. The song is dealing with social consciousness

.

We need a New Breed Leaders stand up Organize

The thread is centered around the unreleased piano piece Mama from 1983

If you haven't heard it ok, but if you have why not share your appreciation for the song instead

--But you can go on about some Italtian mess. I do not agree that the use of mama by Prince in all of his songs was about his mom. I already said I heard the song you are referring to and I agree he is talking about his mom on that song.

Laurarichardson you are very problematic

I'm not going on about Italian mess. I posted that picture from a foreign magazine with the term Mamma Mia underneath show that others use 'Mama' in a sexual way. They weren't talking about Monica in a maternal way.
The point is simple that 'mama' in various cultures IS used in a sexual way. So we were pretty much supporting your point. Even though you didn't say anything we did not know. 'mama' is used in various cultures in a sexual way Black-American, Italian(American) Latino etc

.

I never ever said 'the use of mama by Prince in all of his songs was about his mom'

Can U please stop flame baiting and using strawmen

.

I clearly pointed out the piano peice Mama(which is the main focus) When Doves Cry and the piece in Sexuality.
Please stop talking like people are not worldly and don't know that people use 'mama' in 'sexual' terms.

LOVE GUN
You can't forget me baby
Don't try to lie

You'll never leave me, mama

so don't try

I'll be a gambler, baby

lay down the bet

We get together, mama

You will swet

-Kiss

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Reply #50 posted 09/11/17 4:27pm

purplefam99

OldFriends4Sale said:



purplefam99 said:


OldFriends4Sale said:


This song is a very haunting piece.
More so than Fathers Song.


Without even understand the lyrics, you can feel the anguish in the soft 2 hardness of Prince's touch on the keys, his vocal delivery from soft to harsh, the screeching near the end



Interesting piece, on the verge of his Purple Rain, dealing with a mix of emotions and motivations in 1983


.


Mama
Mama
Was it strange?
Strange


Mama


Mama


Was it strange


strange


Mama


W....


Mama


Mama




...



Mama what's this?


Mama why ....?


Why b.....?


.


Prince's relationship with his mother comes up in very short pieces in his music


The love of a mother or the lack of affection ...


Not too many of his piano pieces and demos I don't adore



.


Maybe I'm just like my mother


She's never satisfied




So do you think he is talking about his mother in those lyrics you posted?


Which lyrics? the piano piece 'Mama'? Of course


Have you heard it?


I can easily see what I heard going along with the unedited Purple Rain script





Those lyrics on the response and those your starred the thread with. yes the piano piece. No haven't heard it. Did you post a link to listen?
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Reply #51 posted 09/11/17 4:33pm

OldFriends4Sal
e

purplefam99 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Which lyrics? the piano piece 'Mama'? Of course

Have you heard it?

I can easily see what I heard going along with the unedited Purple Rain script

Those lyrics on the response and those your starred the thread with. yes the piano piece. No haven't heard it. Did you post a link to listen?

Can't post. It's out there though.

Yes all 3 of those piece he is refering to or directing it at his mother.

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Reply #52 posted 09/11/17 4:57pm

dreamer5

The sound in his voice seems too painful to be a girlfriend. It's another level of pain.
I'm hearing... why the butterflies?? smile. Does anyone else? I'm sure I'm get cut down for
This questions
[Edited 9/11/17 21:14pm]
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Reply #53 posted 09/11/17 10:22pm

Lovejunky

and yet...

On the cover of Sign of the times, he credits

my Patient Mother

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Reply #54 posted 09/12/17 12:43am

laurarichardso
n

Lovejunky said:

and yet...



On the cover of Sign of the times, he credits



my Patient Mother


--Tyka also had a pic of him giving his mom a big fat kiss on the cheek.
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Reply #55 posted 09/12/17 5:53am

OldFriends4Sal
e

laurarichardson said:

Lovejunky said:

and yet...

On the cover of Sign of the times, he credits

my Patient Mother

--Tyka also had a pic of him giving his mom a big fat kiss on the cheek.

was that his mother or his Aunt?

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Reply #56 posted 09/12/17 5:59am

OldFriends4Sal
e

dreamer5 said:

The sound in his voice seems too painful to be a girlfriend. It's another level of pain. I'm hearing... why the butterflies?? smile. Does anyone else? I'm sure I'm get cut down for This questions [Edited 9/11/17 21:14pm]

Yes it does sound anguished.
I wonder was it one of the pieces submitted for the movie?

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Reply #57 posted 09/12/17 6:20am

purplefam99

OldFriends4Sale said:

laurarichardson said:

Lovejunky said: --Tyka also had a pic of him giving his mom a big fat kiss on the cheek.

was that his mother or his Aunt?

i believe it was his mama.

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Reply #58 posted 09/12/17 7:04am

OldFriends4Sal
e

purplefam99 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

was that his mother or his Aunt?

i believe it was his mama.

This one?

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Reply #59 posted 09/12/17 1:15pm

purplefam99

OldFriends4Sale said:

purplefam99 said:

i believe it was his mama.

This one?

e140438302a1d2f93ea595a0f43825ab.jpg

yes, isn't that the one tyka posted. the ease on his face is none like i have ever seen him.

[Edited 9/12/17 13:16pm]

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