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Thread started 08/29/17 11:51am

TKO

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Updated 2017 sales in US

ALBUM SALES WEEK 33

49 - 126,000 - PURPLE RAIN - Prince & the Revolution ( 3,695,000 )
101 - 85,000 - 4EVER - Prince ( 152,000 )
178 - 54,000 - THE VERY BEST OF - Prince ( 2,810,000 )

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Reply #1 posted 08/29/17 1:13pm

kingricefan

This list is representative of sales. I wonder how many copies have been illegally downloaded off of the net? Still, pretty impressive sales for an album that's 30+ years old.

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Reply #2 posted 08/29/17 1:31pm

crimesofparis

kingricefan said:

This list is representative of sales. I wonder how many copies have been illegally downloaded off of the net? Still, pretty impressive sales for an album that's 30+ years old.


Probably not a ton of illegal downloads. Free streaming almost completely killed P2P music theft. At least of albums that are on Spotify.

Not that streaming is lucrative... But streaming IS factored into these charts. 10 song sales (even if it's the same song by 10 different people) and 1500 song streams is considered the equivalent of selling a single album.
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Reply #3 posted 08/29/17 1:32pm

alandail

Purple Rain Deluxe Edition is Amazon's #15 best selling album of the year

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Reply #4 posted 08/29/17 1:50pm

kingricefan

alandail said:

Purple Rain Deluxe Edition is Amazon's #15 best selling album of the year

Awesome!!

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Reply #5 posted 09/01/17 12:50am

dance4me3121

alandail said:

Purple Rain Deluxe Edition is Amazon's #15 best selling album of the year


Very cool.I'll admit.i bought 11 copies for myself and friends
[Edited 9/1/17 0:51am]
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Reply #6 posted 09/01/17 2:46am

RODSERLING

crimesofparis said:

kingricefan said:

This list is representative of sales. I wonder how many copies have been illegally downloaded off of the net? Still, pretty impressive sales for an album that's 30+ years old.

Probably not a ton of illegal downloads. Free streaming almost completely killed P2P music theft. At least of albums that are on Spotify. Not that streaming is lucrative... But streaming IS factored into these charts. 10 song sales (even if it's the same song by 10 different people) and 1500 song streams is considered the equivalent of selling a single album.

The numbers quoted by TKO doesn't include streaming sales, only pure sales (physical and legal download).

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Reply #7 posted 09/01/17 2:59am

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Updated 2017 sales in US

ALBUM SALES WEEK 34

23 - 234,000 - SGT PEPPER'S LONELY HEARTS CLUB BAND - Beatles ( 5,032,000 )

47 - 128,000 - PURPLE RAIN - Prince & the Revolution ( 3,698,000 )

81 - 96,000 - THE JOSHUA TREE - U2 ( 3,745,000 ).

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In these 128k copies, the original album sold at least 60.000 copies, including 40.000 on vinyl.

I wonder how much 3CD versions have been really sold. These are not encouraging sales to release another reedition in the future. Still no word about a 30th anniversary reedition of SOTT or a 35th anniversary of 1999.

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Since Sharon Nelson said it was only up to WB to release deluxe editions of their catalogue, this is realy embarassing.

[Edited 9/1/17 3:02am]

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Reply #8 posted 09/01/17 6:02am

crimesofparis

RODSERLING said:



crimesofparis said:


kingricefan said:

This list is representative of sales. I wonder how many copies have been illegally downloaded off of the net? Still, pretty impressive sales for an album that's 30+ years old.



Probably not a ton of illegal downloads. Free streaming almost completely killed P2P music theft. At least of albums that are on Spotify. Not that streaming is lucrative... But streaming IS factored into these charts. 10 song sales (even if it's the same song by 10 different people) and 1500 song streams is considered the equivalent of selling a single album.

The numbers quoted by TKO doesn't include streaming sales, only pure sales (physical and legal download).


Then where are these numbers from because soundscan, riaa, and billboard use streaming equivalents last time I checked. Sincere curiosity here.
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Reply #9 posted 09/01/17 6:11am

RODSERLING

crimesofparis said:

RODSERLING said:

The numbers quoted by TKO doesn't include streaming sales, only pure sales (physical and legal download).

Then where are these numbers from because soundscan, riaa, and billboard use streaming equivalents last time I checked. Sincere curiosity here.

Billboard has "pure sales " charts, separated from the "streaming + sales charts".

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Reply #10 posted 09/01/17 6:16am

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RODSERLING said:

Updated 2017 sales in US

ALBUM SALES WEEK 34

23 - 234,000 - SGT PEPPER'S LONELY HEARTS CLUB BAND - Beatles ( 5,032,000 )

47 - 128,000 - PURPLE RAIN - Prince & the Revolution ( 3,698,000 )

81 - 96,000 - THE JOSHUA TREE - U2 ( 3,745,000 ).

.

In these 128k copies, the original album sold at least 60.000 copies, including 40.000 on vinyl.

I wonder how much 3CD versions have been really sold. These are not encouraging sales to release another reedition in the future. Still no word about a 30th anniversary reedition of SOTT or a 35th anniversary of 1999.

.

Since Sharon Nelson said it was only up to WB to release deluxe editions of their catalogue, this is realy embarassing.

[Edited 9/1/17 3:02am]

Record sales are down overall and will be until the end of time. WB spent .50 cents promoting it so they made a nice chuck of change. This album is 30 years old and most milliunals and y's do not even have an interest in the music of their own generation much less music that was created before they were born.

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Reply #11 posted 09/01/17 9:26am

TKO

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crimesofparis said:

RODSERLING said:

The numbers quoted by TKO doesn't include streaming sales, only pure sales (physical and legal download).

Then where are these numbers from because soundscan, riaa, and billboard use streaming equivalents last time I checked. Sincere curiosity here.

Only pure sales in this chart.

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Reply #12 posted 09/01/17 9:39am

Astasheiks

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RODSERLING said:

Updated 2017 sales in US

ALBUM SALES WEEK 34

23 - 234,000 - SGT PEPPER'S LONELY HEARTS CLUB BAND - Beatles ( 5,032,000 )

47 - 128,000 - PURPLE RAIN - Prince & the Revolution ( 3,698,000 )

81 - 96,000 - THE JOSHUA TREE - U2 ( 3,745,000 ).

.

In these 128k copies, the original album sold at least 60.000 copies, including 40.000 on vinyl.

I wonder how much 3CD versions have been really sold. These are not encouraging sales to release another reedition in the future. Still no word about a 30th anniversary reedition of SOTT or a 35th anniversary of 1999.

.

Since Sharon Nelson said it was only up to WB to release deluxe editions of their catalogue, this is realy embarassing.

[Edited 9/1/17 3:02am]

Is the 128,000 the number copies sold in Week 34 and ( 3,698,000 ) number copies for the Total 34 weeks its been on the charts?

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Reply #13 posted 09/01/17 11:55am

TKO

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Astasheiks said:

RODSERLING said:

Updated 2017 sales in US

ALBUM SALES WEEK 34

23 - 234,000 - SGT PEPPER'S LONELY HEARTS CLUB BAND - Beatles ( 5,032,000 )

47 - 128,000 - PURPLE RAIN - Prince & the Revolution ( 3,698,000 )

81 - 96,000 - THE JOSHUA TREE - U2 ( 3,745,000 ).

.

In these 128k copies, the original album sold at least 60.000 copies, including 40.000 on vinyl.

I wonder how much 3CD versions have been really sold. These are not encouraging sales to release another reedition in the future. Still no word about a 30th anniversary reedition of SOTT or a 35th anniversary of 1999.

.

Since Sharon Nelson said it was only up to WB to release deluxe editions of their catalogue, this is realy embarassing.

[Edited 9/1/17 3:02am]

Is the 128,000 the number copies sold in Week 34 and ( 3,698,000 ) number copies for the Total 34 weeks its been on the charts?

128k copies sold in 2017. 3.6m is total sales since Soundscan started tracking sales.

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Reply #14 posted 09/01/17 12:14pm

Astasheiks

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Thanks, makes sense, .

Do you know when Soundscan started tracking sales?

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Reply #15 posted 09/01/17 12:33pm

crimesofparis

Astasheiks said:

Thanks, makes sense, .



Do you know when Soundscan started tracking sales?


March 1, 1991.
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Reply #16 posted 09/05/17 12:37am

RODSERLING

Now that streaming counts in the RIAA certification, TVBOP should be recertified at 3 PLATINUM and PURPLE RAIN at 16*PLATINUM.

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Reply #17 posted 09/05/17 4:34am

jcurley

TKO said:

Astasheiks said:

Is the 128,000 the number copies sold in Week 34 and ( 3,698,000 ) number copies for the Total 34 weeks its been on the charts?

128k copies sold in 2017. 3.6m is total sales since Soundscan started tracking sales.

I don't understand. is this the Deluxe then? if not why isn't the 3,698,000 added to earlier sales since 1984?

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Reply #18 posted 09/05/17 8:49am

crimesofparis

jcurley said:



TKO said:




Astasheiks said:




Is the 128,000 the number copies sold in Week 34 and ( 3,698,000 ) number copies for the Total 34 weeks its been on the charts?




128k copies sold in 2017. 3.6m is total sales since Soundscan started tracking sales.



I don't understand. is this the Deluxe then? if not why isn't the 3,698,000 added to earlier sales since 1984?


Before soundscan it was kind of murky with certifications. I think it was largely based on units shipped to stores minus units returned. There are actually more than a few records with high certifications that sold very few copies, but that the label literally dumped rather than returning.

Makes sense that they'd keep those things separate, but it should still be counting toward certifications.

It should be Purple Rain as a whole, not just deluxe, but including deluxe.

3.6 million sold for a record that was big 7 years before soundscan is amazingly good. I think 128k sold this year alone is encouraging considering so many people bought it last year, but I came into the industry after album sales tanked. Also encouraged by that number with low promo and probably not a lot of cost on WB's side.
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Reply #19 posted 09/05/17 12:11pm

luvsexy4all

how many CDs of the deluxe have sold worldwide? 3+ million??

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Reply #20 posted 09/06/17 12:56am

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luvsexy4all said:

how many CDs of the deluxe have sold worldwide? 3+ million??

About 130.000 worldwide, including 80.000 in the USA

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Reply #21 posted 09/06/17 5:15am

RODSERLING

RODSERLING said:

luvsexy4all said:

how many CDs of the deluxe have sold worldwide? 3+ million??

About 130.000 worldwide, including 80.000 in the USA

This week sales charts, not good news :

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PRINCE|PURPLE RAIN (113) 1875 411 452 325 687 07599251102.

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Just the average week Purple Rain usually sold the last years before he died.

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Entire sales chart-run since the june 23th re-release : 3-11-25-30-54-62-76-75-68-113

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Reply #22 posted 09/08/17 1:17am

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RODSERLING said:

RODSERLING said:

About 130.000 worldwide, including 80.000 in the USA

This week sales charts, not good news :

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PRINCE|PURPLE RAIN (113) 1875 411 452 325 687 07599251102.

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Just the average week Purple Rain usually sold the last years before he died.

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Entire sales chart-run since the june 23th re-release : 3-11-25-30-54-62-76-75-68-113

Updated 2017 sales in US

ALBUM SALES WEEK 35

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23 - 237,000 - SGT PEPPER'S LONELY HEARTS CLUB BAND - Beatles ( 5,036,000 )

47 - 130,000 - PURPLE RAIN - Prince & the Revolution ( 3,699,000 )

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Reply #23 posted 09/12/17 12:42am

RODSERLING

This week, a "great" boost from last week :

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60. PRINCE|PURPLE RAIN ( 60) 2,759 = 449 537 469 1303

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Entire sales chart-run since the june 23th re-release : 3-11-25-30-54-62-76-75-68-113-60

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Reply #24 posted 09/12/17 3:59am

love2thenines2
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RODSERLING said:



luvsexy4all said:


how many CDs of the deluxe have sold worldwide? 3+ million??



About 130.000 worldwide, including 80.000 in the USA




WB is in the end winner of the game....they won already money with this project with a minnimal marketing input!
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Reply #25 posted 09/12/17 5:56am

RODSERLING

love2thenines2003 said:

RODSERLING said:

About 130.000 worldwide, including 80.000 in the USA

WB is in the end winner of the game....they won already money with this project with a minnimal marketing input!

Highly doubtful...This re-release was in hell development during more than 3 years, and Prince was contractually paid for this. Just like everybody else involved in this project, including Susan Rogers. Some even say that some tracks were negociated from personnal tapes, such as My Destiny / Roadhouse garden.

They also did some mastering work on some tapes with poor sound.

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Reply #26 posted 09/15/17 3:05am

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Updated 2017 US Album sales - week 36

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47 - 133,000 - PURPLE RAIN - Prince & the Revolution ( 3,702,000 )

Also :

57,000 - THE VERY BEST OF - Prince ( 2.81 )

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Reply #27 posted 09/19/17 12:58am

RODSERLING

Week 37 US sales :

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PRINCE|PURPLE RAIN ( 82) 2056 319 380 335 1022 07599251102

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Entire sales chart-run since the june 23th re-release : 3-11-25-30-54-62-76-75-68-113-60-82.

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We may expect next week a re-entry of 4EVER, thanks to the vinyl release.

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Reply #28 posted 09/19/17 3:53pm

luvsexy4all

it appears it was financially worthwhile for WB....so why not do more now?????

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Reply #29 posted 09/19/17 5:33pm

TKO

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luvsexy4all said:

it appears it was financially worthwhile for WB....so why not do more now?????

Give it time, even re-releases take some time. We already got Purple Rain this year, i wouldn't mind wait another year for '1999 Deluxe'. lol

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