TheEquilizer said:

PennyPurple said:

But nobody would have excess to the vault, other then the Estate, correct? WB can't just waltz in there and get what ever they want. ?

Nope the dude from Spotify Comerica hired as the entertainment advisor can Waltz, Cha Cha, Cuban Shuffle, River Dance, or Wobble Wobble right in there with WB or whomever will give him the biggest return on his percentage just like that. Such an indignity to Prince and what he stood for.

[Edited 10/11/17 20:23pm]

That's just not right.

Has anyone heard how Tyka & Omarr feel about it?

Comerica stated that they talked to the Estate about this at least 4 times before it happened.

[Edited 10/11/17 20:27pm]

TheEquilizer said:

Totally Agree! If Comerica doesn't care what the heirs think or what they have to say, they probably think even less about the fans and will continue doing their own thing as long as it prolongs their control and ability to maladminister, eventually draining the estate dry.

Well, there's some major fan shit-stirring happening right here! Look Londell, this topic is being discussed on numerous Prince Facebook groups, pages, and personal fan accts as we speak. There are industry pro's who have weighed in and word has it that this was a good move, a smart move, and that there's also people out there who are well-qualified to go through the vault material to do whatever is necessary to come up with a final value determination. What's your issue, other than creating continual turmoil among the masses? People who couldn't be bothered to show up at PP until after P left us aren't looking after his legacy, they are looking after their cut of the purple pie. Like you are.

PennyPurple said:

TheEquilizer said:

Nope the dude from Spotify Comerica hired as the entertainment advisor can Waltz, Cha Cha, Cuban Shuffle, River Dance, or Wobble Wobble right in there with WB or whomever will give him the biggest return on his percentage just like that. Such an indignity to Prince and what he stood for.

[Edited 10/11/17 20:23pm]

That's just not right.

Has anyone heard how Tyka & Omarr feel about it?

Comerica stated that they talked to the Estate about this at least 4 times before it happened.

[Edited 10/11/17 20:27pm]

Nope, well if they stated they talked about it at least 4 times, it must have been the 4 times that didn't include the sisters who are now feeling devastated by the fact they emptied out the vault 30 days prior to their knowledge or consent.

Mumio said:

TheEquilizer said:

Totally Agree! If Comerica doesn't care what the heirs think or what they have to say, they probably think even less about the fans and will continue doing their own thing as long as it prolongs their control and ability to maladminister, eventually draining the estate dry.

Well, there's some major fan shit-stirring happening right here! Look Londell, this topic is being discussed on numerous Prince Facebook groups, pages, and personal fan accts as we speak. There are industry pro's who have weighed in and word has it that this was a good move, a smart move, and that there's also people out there who are well-qualified to go through the vault material to do whatever is necessary to come up with a final value determination. What's your issue, other than creating continual turmoil among the masses? People who couldn't be bothered to show up at PP until after P left us aren't looking after his legacy, they are looking after their cut of the purple pie. Like you are.

Let me ask this question, what makes people on here assume I am Londell? Let me assure you I'm not. There is no issue here, other than we should be providing facts and not opinion or speculation as others continue do in this particular forum. I'm not sure what you define as turmoil amongst the masses, however, if we are going to exchange in meaningful conversation, let's speak facts and accuracy not opinion and personal interpretation.

PennyPurple said:

At first I was just no for moving the contents of the Vault.

But when I think about it, it really is a good thing to bring his work to a facility where there may be a controlled climate and they will be able to prevent or slow down the disintergration of tapes and other stuff. Who knows what is and is not salvagable. As well as preserve stuff for the future for the fans.

luv4u said:

At first I was just no for moving the contents of the Vault.

But when I think about it, it really is a good thing to bring his work to a facility where there may be a controlled climate and they will be able to prevent or slow down the disintergration of tapes and other stuff. Who knows what is and is not salvagable. As well as preserve stuff for the future for the fans.

Same...I had an initial negative and emotional reaction

Now I can see the sense,

still not sitting 100% with me though..

luv4u said:

Who knows what is and is not salvagable. As well as preserve stuff for the future for the fans.

.

So where is the expert company to catalogue, restore, rescue them recordings?

Where are their findings? Progress? Cost?

TheEquilizer said:

TheEquilizer said:

rogifan said:

PennyPurple said:

That's just not right.

Has anyone heard how Tyka & Omarr feel about it?

Comerica stated that they talked to the Estate about this at least 4 times before it happened.

[Edited 10/11/17 20:27pm]

Isn’t Comerica the Estate?

They represent the Estate.

TheEquilizer said:

PennyPurple said:

That's just not right.

Has anyone heard how Tyka & Omarr feel about it?

Comerica stated that they talked to the Estate about this at least 4 times before it happened.

[Edited 10/11/17 20:27pm]

Nope, well if they stated they talked about it at least 4 times, it must have been the 4 times that didn't include the sisters who are now feeling devastated by the fact they emptied out the vault 30 days prior to their knowledge or consent.

Comerica defended its decision in a statement.

“In an effort to ensure the preservation of Prince’s audio and visual content, Comerica selected the premier entertainment storage and archive company, Iron Mountain Entertainment Services,” the statement said. “On four separate occasions, Comerica discussed the process with the heirs and any suggestion otherwise is not accurate.”

udo said:

luv4u said:

Who knows what is and is not salvagable. As well as preserve stuff for the future for the fans.

.

So where is the expert company to catalogue, restore, rescue them recordings?

Where are their findings? Progress? Cost?

Discussion over here discussing the move http://prince.org/msg/7/447891

PennyPurple said:

TheEquilizer said:

Nope, well if they stated they talked about it at least 4 times, it must have been the 4 times that didn't include the sisters who are now feeling devastated by the fact they emptied out the vault 30 days prior to their knowledge or consent.

Comerica defended its decision in a statement.

“In an effort to ensure the preservation of Prince’s audio and visual content, Comerica selected the premier entertainment storage and archive company, Iron Mountain Entertainment Services,” the statement said. “On four separate occasions, Comerica discussed the process with the heirs and any suggestion otherwise is not accurate.”

I am sure Comerica has some inventory list of what was moved. They seem to be getting things on the right track from the Bremer mistakes. I just can't see Comerica not inventoring the items. They might not have titles, but they may have numbered the items to ensure that nothing is missing.

nelcp777 said:

PennyPurple said:

Comerica defended its decision in a statement.

“In an effort to ensure the preservation of Prince’s audio and visual content, Comerica selected the premier entertainment storage and archive company, Iron Mountain Entertainment Services,” the statement said. “On four separate occasions, Comerica discussed the process with the heirs and any suggestion otherwise is not accurate.”

I am sure Comerica has some inventory list of what was moved. They seem to be getting things on the right track from the Bremer mistakes. I just can't see Comerica not inventoring the items. They might not have titles, but they may have numbered the items to ensure that nothing is missing.

Of course the have some sort of system. The sisters are acting like Prince is the only artist on the earth with a catalogue of music. As if this process was never ever carried out in the history of recorded music.

I wonder who could be advising them?

TheEquilizer said:

Mumio said:

Well, there's some major fan shit-stirring happening right here! Look Londell, this topic is being discussed on numerous Prince Facebook groups, pages, and personal fan accts as we speak. There are industry pro's who have weighed in and word has it that this was a good move, a smart move, and that there's also people out there who are well-qualified to go through the vault material to do whatever is necessary to come up with a final value determination. What's your issue, other than creating continual turmoil among the masses? People who couldn't be bothered to show up at PP until after P left us aren't looking after his legacy, they are looking after their cut of the purple pie. Like you are.

Let me ask this question, what makes people on here assume I am Londell? Let me assure you I'm not. There is no issue here, other than we should be providing facts and not opinion or speculation as others continue do in this particular forum. I'm not sure what you define as turmoil amongst the masses, however, if we are going to exchange in meaningful conversation, let's speak facts and accuracy not opinion and personal interpretation.

OK "not" Lonnie,

Bring some facts. You've been trolling with shade and opinion.

luv4u said:

At first I was just no for moving the contents of the Vault.

But when I think about it, it really is a good thing to bring his work to a facility where there may be a controlled climate and they will be able to prevent or slow down the disintergration of tapes and other stuff. Who knows what is and is not salvagable. As well as preserve stuff for the future for the fans.

I totally agree luv4u.

TheEquilizer said:

laurarichardson said:

206Michelle said: Iron mountain is known for being the tops in storage but it does seem weird if Paisley had climate control vault and the storage was free. They are generating bill but it could also be for insurance purposes.

So let's put this in perspective, you don't tell the heirs the vault is being emptied, it remained safely in Paisley Park for over 40 years, there was no concern to expeditiously move it in the past year, according to Comerica they have not yet inventoried the contents and provided that level of info to anyone which is why they can't determine the tax obligation to close the estate, so they take it upon themselves to ship it to the iron mountain facility in California no less, which is in close proximity to who? Yep, Warner Bros who will now have access to not only the masters under their contract, but all of his life's work since it has not been itemized before the move. Can you say Hoodwinked, Bamboozled, taking advantage of a dynasty, disrespecting his legacy. It doesn't look like we will see any new music anytime soon with the litigation that will follow this shady move. Do you smell that? Smells like Injuction to me.

[Edited 10/14/17 8:24am]

TheEquilizer said:

PennyPurple said:

But nobody would have excess to the vault, other then the Estate, correct? WB can't just waltz in there and get what ever they want. ?

The dude from Spotify Comerica hired as the entertainment advisor can Waltz, Cha Cha, Cuban Shuffle, River Dance, or Wobble Wobble right in there with WB or whomever will give him the biggest return on his percentage just like that. Such an indignity to Prince and what he stood for.

That is sure what it seems like... WOW!!!

Astasheiks said:

laurarichardson said:

If WB had access to the masters and Prince’s vault we would have had better selection of music on the OR remaster instead of getting the crap out their vault. This is more ranting from Lonnie about the WB which nothing can be done about. Prince signed that deal and it was what he wanted and Lonnie needs to get over it. There is no conspiracy by Iron Mountain to work in cohorts with WB to steal anything the court is watching they are watching Lonnie.

I find that hard to believe too. Nobody can just waltz in there and take what they want, not even WB.

PennyPurple said:

TheEquilizer said:

PennyPurple said:

I find that hard to believe too. Nobody can just waltz in there and take what they want, not even WB.

What in the world are you saying LR, you must be related to Shawnetta Graham, you're clueless! And now you got PurplePenny following what you say. The move now gives TC who is an executive at Spotify the opportunity to take it upon himself as the appointed entertainment advisor for Comerica to not only walk in there, but to enter into any agreement for any and all vault material that is in his best interest. In addition, he will get 5% for any deal, and since you don't know,Spotify has a long term licensing deal with whom, you guessed it WB. Don't keep falling for the banana in the tailpipe! It's all smoke and mirrors! [Edited 10/15/17 20:28pm]

Then Troy may do what Lonny did?

Enter into agreements that was in his best interest?

Sounds familiar "eh Lonny?

TheEquilizer said:

PennyPurple said:

laurarichardson said:

If WB had access to the masters and Prince’s vault we would have had better selection of music on the OR remaster instead of getting the crap out their vault. This is more ranting from Lonnie about the WB which nothing can be done about. Prince signed that deal and it was what he wanted and Lonnie needs to get over it. There is no conspiracy by Iron Mountain to work in cohorts with WB to steal anything the court is watching they are watching Lonnie.

I find that hard to believe too. Nobody can just waltz in there and take what they want, not even WB.

What in the world are you saying LR, you must be related to Shawnetta Graham, you're clueless! And now you got PurplePenny following what you say. The move now gives TC who is an executive at Spotify the opportunity to take it upon himself as the appointed entertainment advisor for Comerica to not only walk in there, but to enter into any agreement for any and all vault material that is in his best interest. In addition, he will get 5% for any deal, and since you don't know,Spotify has a long term licensing deal with whom, you guessed it WB. Don't keep falling for the banana in the tailpipe! It's all smoke and mirrors!
[Edited 10/15/17 20:28pm]

Ogeda LeJuan Patrick is a new name receiving notices. He is another prisoner.

laurarichardson said:

TheEquilizer said:

What in the world are you saying LR, you must be related to Shawnetta Graham, you're clueless! And now you got PurplePenny following what you say. The move now gives TC who is an executive at Spotify the opportunity to take it upon himself as the appointed entertainment advisor for Comerica to not only walk in there, but to enter into any agreement for any and all vault material that is in his best interest. In addition, he will get 5% for any deal, and since you don't know,Spotify has a long term licensing deal with whom, you guessed it WB. Don't keep falling for the banana in the tailpipe! It's all smoke and mirrors!
[Edited 10/15/17 20:28pm]

It was Lonnie who put Prince’s music on Sportify in the first place. Someplace Prince did not want the music to be at all.
Secondly, the estate is still in probate no assets are going to be sold without the approval of the court or family members.
We know WB does not access to Prince’s vault but if TC wants to admend the agreement to license out more material so be it. The estate will make money and fans will get to hear the music. I think you do not know the difference between license and owning. I also think that if TC gets money coming into the estate rather then lawsuits he deserves 5%. The whole point is to get the music out so that it is profitable to the estate how the 3/4 of a penny that streaming services pay is of great benefit to the estate I will never know.

rogifan said:

laurarichardson said:

It was Lonnie who put Prince’s music on Sportify in the first place. Someplace Prince did not want the music to be at all. Secondly, the estate is still in probate no assets are going to be sold without the approval of the court or family members. We know WB does not access to Prince’s vault but if TC wants to admend the agreement to license out more material so be it. The estate will make money and fans will get to hear the music. I think you do not know the difference between license and owning. I also think that if TC gets money coming into the estate rather then lawsuits he deserves 5%. The whole point is to get the music out so that it is profitable to the estate how the 3/4 of a penny that streaming services pay is of great benefit to the estate I will never know.

If Prince didn’t want his music on streaming how come Hit n Run Phase 2 was available to stream on Apple Music (before any streaming deals were announced)?

It was not on Sportify and Hit and Run was the only one he put on Apple music. You keep forgetting that his issues with streaming had to do the pennies that Sportify was paying. He was able to get a large up front payment from Tidal and I am sure he got some satisfactory payment out of Apple but he was not doing business with Sportify.

Astasheiks said:

TheEquilizer said:

The dude from Spotify Comerica hired as the entertainment advisor can Waltz, Cha Cha, Cuban Shuffle, River Dance, or Wobble Wobble right in there with WB or whomever will give him the biggest return on his percentage just like that. Such an indignity to Prince and what he stood for.

That is sure what it seems like... WOW!!!

No it does not. What does Iron Mountain restoration services have to do WB? Some company is going to have to market and distrubute the material. It could be WB, UMG (which lonnie had no problem with ) or the family could do it in house once they inherit. The point is a deal to distrubute the material has to be completed in order for the estate to make money. Nothing is wrong with WB being that company. This person refuses to acknowledge that Prince signed a deal with WB to license his music no one put a gun to his head.

The only bad thing would be selling everything to any company which at this point is not possible. The family has to be consulted over any deals over 2 million and I am sure publishing and masters are worth more than 2 million.

laurarichardson said: