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Thread started 08/10/17 1:11pm

June7

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As Sharon Suggested - Pick The Next Two Things That Should Be Released!

In my interview with Sharon Nelson, several members asked her what the next release from The Vault would be. Her response was for his fans to suggest two releases and they will try to comply.

So, here's your chance to effectively have a say in the next two releases of Prince's music or videos or whatever ...

So, c'mon Orgers ... list two!

[NOTE: Any questions about or regarding the Q&A will be deleted]

[PRINCE 4EVER!]

[June7, "ModGod"]
Reply #1 posted 08/10/17 1:23pm

mcmk785new

First Ave 1983 Concert DVD
Crystal Ball Volume 2!
[Edited 8/10/17 13:45pm]
until then i'll pretend this fuchsia light is god...
Reply #2 posted 08/10/17 1:30pm

nelcp777

Prince's last P&M performance in Atlanta and the last studio track he recorded.

Reply #3 posted 08/10/17 1:33pm

Philly76

We alreaday got unreleased stuff from the 80s with the Purple Rain Deluxe release.

I would like to see:
A 21 nights in London compilation DVD/ Blue Ray including various main concerts, aftershows and unreleased footage.

The latest record Prince was working on. I heard something about a Jazz album and/or a live release/ compilation of the Piano & Microphone tour including unreleased footage.

Thank u.
Reply #4 posted 08/10/17 1:38pm

todesm

A 1st boxed set with all his full unreleased albums (crystal ball, camille, the dawn, roadhouse gardens,dream factory, etc etc)

A 2nd boxed set with one concert for each tour he did
Reply #5 posted 08/10/17 1:44pm

TheEnglishGent

Philly76 said:

We alreaday got unreleased stuff from the 80s with the Purple Rain Deluxe release. I would like to see: A 21 nights in London compilation DVD/ Blue Ray including various main concerts, aftershows and unreleased footage. The latest record Prince was working on. I heard something about a Jazz album and/or a live release/ compilation of the Piano & Microphone tour including unreleased footage. Thank u.


+1 for 21 nights stuff, especially the aftershows.

RIP sad
Reply #6 posted 08/10/17 1:47pm

Welcome2daRevolution

His final piano and microphone show video and a cd of his last material completed.
CALL ME A DREAMER 2!
Reply #7 posted 08/10/17 2:14pm

dance4me3121

The 3121 film and his last concert on DVD/Blu-ray
Reply #8 posted 08/10/17 2:18pm

thedoorkeeper

Crystal Ball #2: unreleased songs from the eighties
&
Crystal Ball #3: unreleased songs from the nineties
&
Both would be double albums
Reply #9 posted 08/10/17 2:22pm

dippydippywaveofmydo

Piano and Microphone (either Gala or final concert)
21 Nights DVD (the 21st final night)
The Sampler Set is great!
Reply #10 posted 08/10/17 2:37pm

nickog

3121 The Movie on Blu-ray and 1 concert from every tour from 1979-2016 on Blu-ray/DVD.
Reply #11 posted 08/10/17 2:39pm

Dandroppedadime

1. Firstly you 'the estate' need to beat the bootleggers, by releasing of boxset of all the studio material currently bootlegged in pristine audio quality- - this would instantly make all bootlegs redundant.

2. then any unheard previously unreleased material can be released in a series.

Reply #12 posted 08/10/17 2:45pm

donnyenglish

1. Piano & Microphone Gala DVD with BOTH complete shows

2. Celebration 2002 DVD for all 7 shows

3. The Second Coming DVD

Reply #13 posted 08/10/17 2:48pm

massing

1. A boxset of 80s outtakes.

2. A tours boxset, one disc per tour.

Reply #14 posted 08/10/17 3:00pm

williamb610

Let me get in there. The Vault? It's exciting. It's different.

Hee, hee.

1. A DVD/download of the 1983 First Avenue show!

2. The album of songs that Prince was going to release before he decided to do Purple Rain...the mythical follow up to 1999.

Reply #15 posted 08/10/17 3:00pm

PurpleYoda3121

1999/SoTT/Lovesexy Deluxe Expanded Edition

A Piano & Microphone Concert

U fall in love 2 fast and hate 2 soon
And take 4 granted the feeling’s mutual
Reply #16 posted 08/10/17 4:06pm

alandail

I'd like to see some of the completed but unreleased albums released. Perhaps do like the Purple Rain extended edition and include both the complete album along with a second CD of some other tracks not part of an album (and extended versions), but from the same time period.

I do think it woudl be a mistake to start pulling songs from various completed albums and releasing them as Crystal Ball 2. That just diminishes the chances of ever getting the full albums configured the way they were intended.

I'd also love to see the IMAX movie filmed during the Act 2 tour relased on a HDR 4k Blu Ray.

Edit to add: maybe there coudl be a limited run release of this in the actual IMAX theaters.

[Edited 8/10/17 16:07pm]

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Reply #17 posted 08/10/17 4:18pm

rogifan

1. P&M shows
2. ALL albums available on ALL streaming services
3. Live concerts - 21 nights, Coachella, 2011 North Sea Jazz Festival, 2011 Hop Farm Festival,2009 & 2013 Montreux Jazz Festival.
Paisley Park is in your heart
#PrinceForever 💜
Reply #18 posted 08/10/17 4:25pm

kingricefan

1- Concert films on dvd or bluray from every phase or tour that Prince did.

2- Every song in the vault. biggrin

[Edited 8/10/17 19:12pm]

Reply #19 posted 08/10/17 4:30pm

luvsexy4all

unreleased fully sequenced albums.

his first show minn79 and last show on dvds.

Reply #20 posted 08/10/17 5:53pm

woogiebear

1)Piano & A Microphone (The LAST SHOW)

2)Roadhouse Garden- The Revolution have been firing on ALL Cylinders!! It'd be interesting 2 hear the FULL ALBUM!!!

cool cool

Reply #21 posted 08/10/17 6:05pm

alandail

woogiebear said:

1)Piano & A Microphone (The LAST SHOW)

2)Roadhouse Garden- The Revolution have been firing on ALL Cylinders!! It'd be interesting 2 hear the FULL ALBUM!!!

cool cool

Had I listed specific albums instead of general concepts of how to do it, these are the exact two albums I was going to list.

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Reply #22 posted 08/10/17 6:17pm

mbdtyler

1. Dream Factory (some sort of multi-disc set featuring all configurations and varying mixes of repeat songs, or just the final configuration and a second disc with leftover tracks that didn't make it past the previous configurations)

2. Another Crystal Ball compilation with unreleased 80's material (including "Extraloveable" and "Purple Music")

Reply #23 posted 08/10/17 6:34pm

camilleisfunky

1. the infamous Small Club 19 August, 1988 aftershow on DVD/digital video download

2. DVD of a P&M show

Reply #24 posted 08/10/17 7:13pm

Purplebflogirl

P&M final show in Atlanta
And 21 nights.
Until the end of time
Reply #25 posted 08/10/17 7:25pm

williamb610

From a Hardcore fan, Ms. Sharon, I DON'T WANT TO STREAM ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I want to BUY IT TO OWN IT!

So that it's mine and forever mine! Whatever the Estate releases, make sure you guys understand that off top!!!!!!!!!!!1

Reply #26 posted 08/10/17 8:20pm

blackmoondaughter

1. A DVD of the Piano & Microphone concerts (particularly the first show at Paisley Park on January 21, 2016)

2. In keeping with Prince's forward-looking attitude, I hope the estate will release the last album Prince & NPGQ completed, "Black Is The New Black." According to Adrian Crutchfield, the album was finished and ready to go. Blue Note was even being considered to release it. When Prince was asked in interviews which of his songs was his favorite, his reply was invariably the one he had just finished or "the next one". I think new fans deserve to know who Prince was in 2016, not just who he was from 1984-1991.

Reply #27 posted 08/10/17 9:25pm

jstar69

1) P&M tour cd and DVD package
2) soundboard audio download containing Le New Morning 1987
Reply #28 posted 08/10/17 9:30pm

coldasice

blackmoondaughter said:

1.  A DVD of the Piano & Microphone concerts (particularly the first show at Paisley Park on January 21, 2016)


 


2. In keeping with Prince's forward-looking attitude, I hope the estate will release the last album Prince & NPGQ completed, "Black Is The New Black."  According to Adrian Crutchfield, the album was finished and ready to go.  Blue Note was even being considered to release it.  When Prince was asked in interviews which of his songs was his favorite, his reply was invariably the one he had just finished or "the next one".  I think new fans deserve to know who Prince was in 2016, not just who he was from 1984-1991.


Paisley Park Xenophobia Box set. It pretty much covered everything
while I'm waiting I'll take the Mountains 12inch
Reply #29 posted 08/10/17 10:29pm

Lovejunky

1) All (non Live ) Music Videos from the first to the last in a time line

2) Some kind of compilation CD Set that Puts all his companion music together...

Jazz tracks

Funk

Rock

Explicit

Smooth Ballads

Hard Rock etc

3) Some kind of HUGE Coffee Table book that runs a time line of His merchandise over the years including back stage passes, Promotional T SHirts, Posters and flyers

“LOVE IS THE MASTERPLAN”
Reply #30 posted 08/10/17 10:46pm

awruss

1) A Super Deluxe Box Set containing: Camille, Dream Factory, and Crystal Ball, as well as outtakes / alternate takes / unreleased songs from that era that are related to those albums. It also could be expanded to include a remastered Sign O The Times album as well.

2) Roadhouse Garden

I know she said ask for two, but I have an idea that should be considered:

3) An online database of every live show in Audio / FLAC format that people, for a reasonable price, could download any show they want - pretty much emulating what Bruce Springsteen is doing on his website: http://live.brucespringst...talog.aspx As an FYI, Bruce charges $9.95 for a complete show in mp3 format and more for higher quality formats.

Reply #31 posted 08/10/17 11:01pm

love2thenines2003

Video= 1st Ave 1983 august concert

audio = all WB Prince Catalogue reissues + outtakes and demos

biggrin
Reply #32 posted 08/11/17 12:31am

Romeoblu

Any unreleased albums or studio work for me is paramount.
Reply #33 posted 08/11/17 12:50am

FullLipsDotNose

unreleased songs from the 90s

unreleased songs from the 00s

full lips, freckles, and upturned nose
Reply #34 posted 08/11/17 12:52am

sonshine

1.) A boxset of all his "official" music videos.

2.) Any completed unreleased album in the vault.

Thank you.

(I'll be back. I have more, but only making two requests per post wink )

Have you had your plus sign (+) today?
Reply #35 posted 08/11/17 1:03am

EmmaMcG

As much as I enjoyed Purple Rain Deluxe, I can't see myself buying any more deluxe versions of albums. I already had all bar one or two songs from it so I wouldn't be willing to buy any more deluxe versions of albums if I've already got the "unreleased" material on them. I think the best thing the estate could do regarding making money off of Prince’s vault would be to focus on releasing music that has never been previously leaked. Give us outtakes from Musicology, 3121, Art Official Age etc. There's potentially hundreds, if not thousands of unheard Prince songs from 1995 onwards we've never heard. I'd rather buy that than spend money on more 80's outtakes I already have.


As for picking two things which should be released next;

1. Black Is The New Black. Or whatever it was going to be called. Whatever the last album he was working on was should be the first thing released because it would truly be Prince's final new album.

2. HitnRun Phase 3. The HitnRun series could be a good way for the estate to get out more songs that they don't have any particular plans for. As an example, if they're gearing up to release the piano and microphone shows, and want to follow that up with another deluxe version of one of his classic albums, then they could release HitnRun Phase 3 in between. Maybe every 6-12 months release a new "Phase" and fill it with outtakes from his later albums.
Reply #36 posted 08/11/17 1:34am

monkeytennis

•THE FAMILY ALBUM - Prince vocal version


Plus the song 'Feline'
[Edited 8/11/17 1:59am]
Grits and gravy, cheese eggs and jam...
Butterscotch clouds, a tangerine and a side order of ham.
Reply #37 posted 08/11/17 3:05am

Knightoflight

To be heard we need agree to disagree

0. Forget about egos.

I mean here do NOT try to fulfill your own dreams and think practically what could bring more value

Audio\Video from "...name it here.." where he played G to Am instead of G to C - might be released within "Subscription service"

"When doves cry" with bass - might be released within "Subscription service" as well

1. Throughts regarding audio

I think there should be released only completed albums.

Compliations and soundboards - might be released within "Subscription service"

My personal take would be:

Welcome 2 America

Crystall Vall Volume II

2. Thoughts regarding video

Evene though personally everyone might have certain videos on rardr I would suggest to take into account consideration in Clause 0.

So here we need only pro-shot videos which demonstrates his musicianship and craft.

My personal take would be video-box-sets of:

21 Night in London

Medison Square Garden

2013 Montreux

P&M tour

3. "Subscription service"

There might be some special releases where die-hard fans could pay big bucks for rare or interesting releases.

My personal take would be

2007 Montreux in HD FLAC

The Black album in HD FLAC


[Edited 8/11/17 3:06am]

Reply #38 posted 08/11/17 3:09am

Knightoflight

TheEnglishGent said:

Philly76 said:

We alreaday got unreleased stuff from the 80s with the Purple Rain Deluxe release. I would like to see: A 21 nights in London compilation DVD/ Blue Ray including various main concerts, aftershows and unreleased footage. The latest record Prince was working on. I heard something about a Jazz album and/or a live release/ compilation of the Piano & Microphone tour including unreleased footage. Thank u.


+1 for 21 nights stuff, especially the aftershows.

+1

Reply #39 posted 08/11/17 3:09am

MMJas

1. The Piano & A Microphone, maybe a 2 CD set, with the show Prince himself chose and the last show, plus a DVD from the Gala.

2. The Jazz album Prince was rumoured to be working on.

Reply #40 posted 08/11/17 3:13am

Knightoflight

blackmoondaughter said:

1. A DVD of the Piano & Microphone concerts (particularly the first show at Paisley Park on January 21, 2016)

2. In keeping with Prince's forward-looking attitude, I hope the estate will release the last album Prince & NPGQ completed, "Black Is The New Black." According to Adrian Crutchfield, the album was finished and ready to go. Blue Note was even being considered to release it. When Prince was asked in interviews which of his songs was his favorite, his reply was invariably the one he had just finished or "the next one". I think new fans deserve to know who Prince was in 2016, not just who he was from 1984-1991.

Point 2 is good

Reply #41 posted 08/11/17 4:49am

Tora

21 Nights (3cd / 1dvd or BluRay)

Piano & A Microphone Last Show (2cd / 1 BluRay)
Reply #42 posted 08/11/17 4:51am

mikeyaddict

Black is the New Black - has to be please! The last thing he was working on!

I know there is lots more but I can't see past this being released. Thank you Sharon, big loves to you and your family.
Comin str8 outta Preston...
Reply #43 posted 08/11/17 5:13am

OperatingThetan

Black is the New Black, HitnRun Phase 3 and any other final unreleased albums and songs from 2010-16.

Reply #44 posted 08/11/17 5:15am

OperatingThetan

HOWEVER, since we don't know the entire contents of the vault some kind of inventory or limited selection of projects needs to provided us. I'm most interested in the albums and songs I've never heard about, not the same bootlegs and unreleased songs that are already circulating.

Reply #45 posted 08/11/17 6:00am

massing

Perhaps a poll would be useful to clarify what are the most popular potential releases?

Reply #46 posted 08/11/17 6:10am

Marco81

- 3131 The Movie

- DVD with both the 3/8/83 and 7/6/84 First Avenue shows

- If all the other HITNRUN volumes were already completed, then resume with HITNRUN Phase Three and so on.

Reply #47 posted 08/11/17 7:04am

Doozer

1. Piano & Microphone - the final show.

2. I know there's a ton of studio material recorded during the album hiatus of 2011-2013. If there's a final sequenced album of unheard material, I would love to pay for it.

if not...

2. Crystal Ball 2. This was a compilation that fans voted on but never materialized. It would be neat to see it completed based on the fan voting.

if that's not possible...

2. Sign O The Times remastered by anyone other than J. Welton, with remixes, b-sides, and unreleased material from Dream Factory and Crystal Ball.

ps I'm a creative director at the largest agency in San Antonio and will design the packaging for free 😎
Reply #48 posted 08/11/17 7:57am

millins

massing said:

Perhaps a poll would be useful to clarify what are the most popular potential releases?

A first class idea!

Reply #49 posted 08/11/17 8:52am

NightGod

I would like a compilation album / video release entitled "Rehearsal".

There could be a single track taken from a rehearsal from each tour. This would be an interesting musical (and visual) document on not only the evolution of Prince, but also the changes in the musicianship with his various bands over the years.

We know that Prince recorded the rehearsals and we've seen some instances of video as well.

[Edited 8/11/17 8:55am]

Reply #50 posted 08/11/17 8:57am

June7

Moderator

moderator

millins said:

massing said:

Perhaps a poll would be useful to clarify what are the most popular potential releases?

A first class idea!

Done, and Done. cool - June7

[PRINCE 4EVER!]

[June7, "ModGod"]
Reply #51 posted 08/11/17 8:58am

PURPLEIZED3121

impossible quetion!

In terms of music ? - anything NOT in circulation that is of stellar quality is THE real challenge! Deliverance EP was a real surprise & noone had these..out of the blue & top drawer. Would love to hear the 3EG unreleased trax.

Video - the final shows...maybe wayyyyy too emotionla though.

Reply #52 posted 08/11/17 9:27am

3stori3s

3121: The Movie

Hit and Run Phase 3

Also, I am totally down for an estate-made streaming service for the stuff that mostly hardcore fans wanna hear. Like...... I'd pay $20/mo for that shit

[Edited 8/11/17 9:30am]

Reply #53 posted 08/11/17 9:31am

djThunderfunk

#1 Both Atlanta P&M shows, CD + Bluray

#2 Black Is The New Black, -OR-, "album" of most recently finished studio tracks


We were HERE, where were you?

4 those that knew the number and didn't call... fk all y'all!
Reply #54 posted 08/11/17 9:39am

dave1dmarx

1. Everything

2. Everything else

Reply #55 posted 08/11/17 10:17am

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy

1 - Original or alternate configurations of albums (Camille, original configuration of Come, etc...)

2 - Box set of all B Sides and remixes.

All remastered of course! biggrin

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Reply #56 posted 08/11/17 10:34am

djdaffy1227

More unreleased studio tracks!!! I love the NPG Music Club idea!

Making love and music are the only things worth fighting for.
Reply #57 posted 08/11/17 11:47am

donnyenglish

Two tracks for releases:

1. Massive Digital Release for Diehards: Upload absolutely everything that is in the vault on a site and let us pay a la carte. Trust me, we will buy everything you put on the site. Don't skimp and put it all out there so that you don't get us complaining about not having every Piano & Microphone show or every version of computer blue, etc. This takes some restoration and mastering of the video and music that is there and some geek to upload it all.

2. Physical Releases for the Masses: Select some high quality material to be released physically to the masses that contains lots of hits like a 21 Nights DVD, some deluxe editions of his hit CD's, some finished albums, etc.

But, #1 is the most important strategy. The distribution cost is minimal and his fans are still ready, willing and able to buy this rare stuff. Once we are gone we are gone. I'm not sure many people will want a grany version of some Dirty Mind concert or every single version of Love Thy Will Be Done tha he ever did, but most people on this site certainly would. Take our money now. There is stuff ready to be uploaded as we speak. Release it.

Reply #58 posted 08/11/17 1:23pm

fortuneandserendipity

The rock 'n' roll album he did circa '79.


Black Is The New Black.


* (and as a bonus) anything with Jeannette Gutierrez's voice on it, just to piss off some of the crazies.

Reply #59 posted 08/11/17 1:23pm

fredmagnus

1 - Welcome 2 America

2 - Hit 'N Run Phase 3


In any case, studio outakes we haven't heard yet i.e. material that hasn't leaked.
[Edited 8/11/17 13:25pm]
Reply #60 posted 08/11/17 2:42pm

javiergangoiti

Black is the new black. I don't mind about the other one.
Reply #61 posted 08/11/17 3:22pm

214

1. 1999 Deluxe Edition

2. Sign O' The Times Deluxe Edition

Reply #62 posted 08/11/17 3:46pm

kingricefan

Yes, please! We WILL pay $$ for it!!!

donnyenglish said:

Two tracks for releases:

1. Massive Digital Release for Diehards: Upload absolutely everything that is in the vault on a site and let us pay a la carte. Trust me, we will buy everything you put on the site. Don't skimp and put it all out there so that you don't get us complaining about not having every Piano & Microphone show or every version of computer blue, etc. This takes some restoration and mastering of the video and music that is there and some geek to upload it all.

2. Physical Releases for the Masses: Select some high quality material to be released physically to the masses that contains lots of hits like a 21 Nights DVD, some deluxe editions of his hit CD's, some finished albums, etc.

But, #1 is the most important strategy. The distribution cost is minimal and his fans are still ready, willing and able to buy this rare stuff. Once we are gone we are gone. I'm not sure many people will want a grany version of some Dirty Mind concert or every single version of Love Thy Will Be Done tha he ever did, but most people on this site certainly would. Take our money now. There is stuff ready to be uploaded as we speak. Release it.

Reply #63 posted 08/11/17 4:32pm

pattypal17

Sign o the Times dvd -- currently available mostly in non-US regions

Compilation of official videos

Reply #64 posted 08/11/17 4:36pm

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy

I don't like that she said something to the effect of the fans agreeing on this lol

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Reply #65 posted 08/11/17 5:39pm

GaryMF

August 1983 Benefit concert DVD

Vanity 6 2nd album

Piano and Mic DVD/boxset

rainbow
Reply #66 posted 08/11/17 5:59pm

mbdtyler

GaryMF said:

August 1983 Benefit concert DVD

Vanity 6 2nd album

Piano and Mic DVD/boxset

I didn't even think about that, good choice!

Reply #67 posted 08/11/17 7:02pm

206Michelle

1. Piano & a Microphone performances, including the final show as well as the one in Australia during which he remembers Denise/Vanity.
2. Re-release out-of-print albums in CD and vinyl formats, such as Diamonds and Pearls, prince, The Black Album, Emancipation, and Musicology.
Live 4 Love ~ Love is God, God is love, Girls and boys love God above
Reply #68 posted 08/11/17 7:27pm

Moonbeam

First of all, thank you so much, June7, for organizing this. It is wonderful to get direct feedback from the estate, and I hope such correspondence can continue somehow.

I think this presents an amazing opportunity for fans to get involved with upcoming releases. Just a suggestion: maybe we should use this thread to collate ideas, and the top 10 or so can be put into a big poll such that the most popular options are presented to the estate? We could advertise such a thing widely among the community through Facebook groups and other purple outlets.

As for my picks, it is really hard to limit it to just 2, but I'd decided on the following:

1. Lovesexy Deluxe, as follows:

  • Disc 1: the album with 9 separate tracks
  • Disc 2: The Black Album: these albums are forever paired in Prince lore, and this would be an opportunity to cement their union as demonstrated in the Lovesexy Tour
  • Disc 3: an outtakes disc, preferably containing the final configuration of the aborted Rave Unto the Joy Fantastic album as well as the other considered tracks as bonus tracks (15 tracks total)
  • Disc 4: Livesexy on DVD
  • Disc 5/6: Audio (video?) of the famous Small Club performance

Why? It serves several needs by releasing one of Prince's most fan-beloved albums in tracked form (a streaming version of which would likely help boost streams), releasing Prince's most notorious bootlegs in The Black Album and the Small Club performance, a fully sequenced unreleased album which overlaps with Small Club ("Rave" and "Still Would Stand All Time"), and a digital version of one of his most celebrated tours.

2. Piano and a Microphone box set, containing at least the first show at Paisley Park and the last show at Atlanta. A more deluxe version could contain a selection of other shows or highlights therein (not my idea - I believe there was a thread here recently which proposed something like this).

Why? Prince indicated that he was working on the Atlanta show for subsequent release anyway, so it would be a touching way to continue his wishes and show off to the world what an amazingly intimate and powerful tour it was.

Feel free to join in the Prince Song Poll 2016! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince songs, as decided by you!
Reply #69 posted 08/11/17 7:45pm

benni

Prince said the Piano and Mic show in Atlanta was the best so far and he planned to release them. I vote for a DVD and CD of the final Atlanta shows.

Reply #70 posted 08/11/17 8:31pm

EddieC

It's not a shocking choice, but go with the most recent next:

The last show (or maybe another Piano and Microphone--but since he indicated that Atlanta would be receiving some sort of release, it seems appropriate to release it.

Black Is the New Black (unless something we don't know about was going on near the end that could be more successful or showed some other moves forward).

We've had the look back with what's come out so far--Moonbeam Levels and the Purple Rain vault disc were good (well, Moonbeam Levels is Moonbeam Levels, and you feel about it whatever you feel about it, and it didn't sound great--but there's a whole lot like a whole lot on that Purple Rain disc)--but everyone knows he was great then, and obviously there are tons of leaks from the 80s-mid 90s. But the last few years were pretty exciting, and in my view promising. I'd like to see what he was putting together on BITNB--now, if it's not that good.........well, maybe something else might be better. But I would strongly encourage something studio from outside of the "classic" years. Maybe something from those multiple albums Hayes says he did during the quiet period after 20Ten.

Reply #71 posted 08/11/17 11:43pm

lust

I'd first like to have released the projects that were planned by Prince. The rest can wait so that the first releases are somewhat contemporary.

1) Piano and a mic Atlanta (bonus composite disc of unique song highlights from entire tour)

2) Black is the new Black.

We likely would have had both of these by now.
If the milk turns out to be sour, I aint the kinda pussy to drink it!
Reply #72 posted 08/12/17 2:19am

daniorU

1) Piano and Microphone Blu-Ray/Dvd (2 shows: Paisley Park Gala and Atlanta 2nd Show)in bundle with a 2 Audio Cd from the last show.

2) Black is the new Black

3) 21 Nights in London Full Show In Blu-Ray/dvd

4) 3121 The Movie

5) Launch of a new online club (curated by Sam Jennings) where fans can purchase:
Live Shows and aftershows,Unreleased projects,Paisley park live sessions,unreleased video,early albums configuration,merchandise...

6) Sign'O'the Times remastered and expanded

7) welcome 2 America dvd/blu ray
"We are the New Power Generation,and so are U!"
Reply #73 posted 08/12/17 2:39am

tbokris

I'm surprised how many people on here are being asked to suggest their dream Prince vault releases and yet some of the suggestions are so mundane. Maybe people on the org shouldn't be given the choice. Do we really want 21 Nights DVD or would you rather have the Second Comimg DVD? I know which I would rather have.
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Have a bit more imagination folks!
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I think whatever is chosen the attitude and angle should be one of keeping eras together. I.e. As nice as Crystal Ball was to hear, I don't think it makes for good listening jumping around in time so much.
.
I would like to see projects and times kept together. The best studio outtakes Prince bootleg to come out has been the recent 1986 'year in the life of'.
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All the albums should be remastered with b-sides etc, but Prince wrote and recorded so much that how would you even begin to do a Sign o the Times expanded set?
Reply #74 posted 08/12/17 3:04am

daniorU

tbokris said:

I'm surprised how many people on here are being asked to suggest their dream Prince vault releases and yet some of the suggestions are so mundane. Maybe people on the org shouldn't be given the choice. Do we really want 21 Nights DVD or would you rather have the Second Comimg DVD? I know which I would rather have.
.
Have a bit more imagination folks!
.
I think whatever is chosen the attitude and angle should be one of keeping eras together. I.e. As nice as Crystal Ball was to hear, I don't think it makes for good listening jumping around in time so much.
.
I would like to see projects and times kept together. The best studio outtakes Prince bootleg to come out has been the recent 1986 'year in the life of'.
.
All the albums should be remastered with b-sides etc, but Prince wrote and recorded so much that how would you even begin to do a Sign o the Times expanded set?


I that think one thing is what could be released for the general public and another is what can be done for the hardcore fans
[Edited 8/12/17 3:05am]
"We are the New Power Generation,and so are U!"
Reply #75 posted 08/12/17 4:26am

sovembol

I'm NOT even Intersted in Suggesting anything..

Everyone wants material that's already been released unoffically... (Ughh)

I'm Only interested in Absolutely NEW material (audio and/or video).

Please consider that in your suggestions..

SO MANY of the suggestions are things we've ALREADY heard or seen.. EVEN if its not pristine quality... Its OUT THERE...

TO be honest.. Sometimes the low grade bootleg quality keeps that mystic fantasy about such items..

NEW NEW NEW NEW STUFF Please!!!

Reply #76 posted 08/12/17 5:10am

mikeyaddict

sovembol said:

I'm NOT even Intersted in Suggesting anything..


Everyone wants material that's already been released unoffically... (Ughh)


I'm Only interested in Absolutely NEW material (audio and/or video).


Please consider that in your suggestions.. 


SO MANY of the suggestions are things we've ALREADY heard or seen.. EVEN if its not pristine quality... Its OUT THERE...


TO be honest.. Sometimes the low grade bootleg quality keeps that mystic fantasy about such items..


NEW NEW NEW NEW STUFF Please!!!


 


 


yeahthat prince prince prince
Comin str8 outta Preston...
Reply #77 posted 08/12/17 5:26am

javiergangoiti

sovembol said:

I'm NOT even Intersted in Suggesting anything..


Everyone wants material that's already been released unoffically... (Ughh)


I'm Only interested in Absolutely NEW material (audio and/or video).


Please consider that in your suggestions.. 


SO MANY of the suggestions are things we've ALREADY heard or seen.. EVEN if its not pristine quality... Its OUT THERE...


TO be honest.. Sometimes the low grade bootleg quality keeps that mystic fantasy about such items..


NEW NEW NEW NEW STUFF Please!!!


 


 



Totally agree with you. Black is the new black, Piano&Mic and all the Mononeon stuff are the things we were supposed to be listening to.
[Edited 8/12/17 5:27am]
Reply #78 posted 08/12/17 5:33am

Lovejunky

javiergangoiti said:

sovembol said:

I'm NOT even Intersted in Suggesting anything..

Everyone wants material that's already been released unoffically... (Ughh)

I'm Only interested in Absolutely NEW material (audio and/or video).

Please consider that in your suggestions..

SO MANY of the suggestions are things we've ALREADY heard or seen.. EVEN if its not pristine quality... Its OUT THERE...

TO be honest.. Sometimes the low grade bootleg quality keeps that mystic fantasy about such items..

NEW NEW NEW NEW STUFF Please!!!

Totally agree with you. Black is the new black, Piano&Mic and all the Mononeon stuff are the things we were supposed to be listening to. [Edited 8/12/17 5:27am]

And what about the Project He was woking on with with Michael Nelson..

Shades of Umber etc ?

I want to hear the rest of that...

Nelson also recalls getting a pop song that featured another unidentified female singer. "It had this buildup to a great guitar solo," he recalls. "When he sent it, he wrote, 'There's a long build that I want tension for and then when the guitar solo happens, you know what happens next.'" Nelson laughs. "I don't know if it will ever come out but it's one of the most incredible things I ever worked on."

That song was titled "Pangaea," and Nelson recalls it was particularly challenging. "It was one of those where you got done with it, and go, 'Boy, I think he's going to really like this,'" he says. "And all I got back was a note in all capitals, '"PANGAEA" IS MAGNIFICENT.' That was it. I was like, 'Yeah, I'll get at least one more song.'" Nelson laughs.


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“LOVE IS THE MASTERPLAN”
Reply #79 posted 08/12/17 7:41am

scorp84

The Second Coming (1982)

Piano & Microphone (Paisley Park Show)

Reply #80 posted 08/12/17 9:08am

ea1313

Rave Unto The Joy Fantastic (I really want to hear his version of Good Judy Girlfriend!)

Crystal Ball (original submitted album)

Reply #81 posted 08/12/17 10:19am

xRachx

Are the estate going to release the albums post 1993 that are out of print? Will they be available for streaming?
Reply #82 posted 08/12/17 10:28am

Strive

The Final Show - Atlanta, GA (04-16-2016)

This is the most important to get out. Prince was working on it and planned to release it before his death.


Montreux Jazz Festival Boxset (2013/2009)

Yes, we already technically have these but it's Prince on point and they deserve a legit release. All 5 shows. DVD/Blu-Ray. It would cement Prince's legacy as one of the greatest live and showcase his massive range.

no yesterday or tomorrow, no better remedy for sorrow
Reply #83 posted 08/12/17 10:33am

Romeoblu

I really hope whatever it is it's from the vault and Studio material. I think live material would generate very little interest at all apart from the hardcore fans.

I think if Black Is The New Black or the Free U'reself albums were completed then they should be first.

I would also love to see a release of 1985/86 material. There is enough to fill two Cd's at least and I think a relese like this would receive very positive reviews

Reply #84 posted 08/12/17 10:42am

fredmagnus

Why so many orgers are asking for material we already have ?? Does a legit release change anything to the sound ??

With all the unheard material lying there in the Vault, I really can't get it.
[Edited 8/12/17 10:43am]
Reply #85 posted 08/12/17 10:48am

AhPook

Ideally I'd like to see two releases a year - one for casual fans and one for the more obsessed. Maybe deluxe remasters (similar to Purple Rain - obviously working backward from better selling albums to under the radar releases) and a live release, or maybe Piano & a Microphone cd/dvd and a mythical album (Crystal Ball, The Dawn, etc).

Reply #86 posted 08/12/17 10:52am

Strive

Romeoblu said:

I really hope whatever it is it's from the vault and Studio material. I think live material would generate very little interest at all apart from the hardcore fans.

Jimi Hendrix's legacy was built off of live performances and he didn't come close to having the range Prince had.

Waking the public up to this fact is something the estate should pursue. Prince has must listen to shows in nearly every era of his live career. When you think of legendary artists, most of them have numerous live releases and various career defining shows available.

As to asking for stuff that we already have bootlegs of, just look to Purple Rain Deluxe. Better quality. Mainstream recognition. Forming Prince's legacy.

[Edited 8/12/17 11:25am]

no yesterday or tomorrow, no better remedy for sorrow
Reply #87 posted 08/12/17 11:33am

mbdtyler

fredmagnus said:

Why so many orgers are asking for material we already have ?? Does a legit release change anything to the sound ?? With all the unheard material lying there in the Vault, I really can't get it. [Edited 8/12/17 10:43am]

There's plenty of great material that has been circulating in less-than-stellar quality, so I can't blame people for wanting to finally have cleaned up versions of tracks they know they love. But I also understand the desire to hear unheard material (even though there's also the risk that it ends up being a disappointment and was left in the vault for a reason)

Reply #88 posted 08/12/17 11:47am

fortuneandserendipity

fredmagnus said:

Why so many orgers are asking for material we already have ?? Does a legit release change anything to the sound ?? With all the unheard material lying there in the Vault, I really can't get it. [Edited 8/12/17 10:43am]

Yah, like orgers' popular choice for new material Crystal Ball 1, 2 & 3 when there is no 2 and 3 anyway confused . Because P shelved it.



Reply #89 posted 08/12/17 11:47am

PliablyPurple

First, thanks to all involved for the interview smile.

Would LOVE to see some behind the scenes type stuff on video of P @ Paisley Park...rehearsals, jam sessions with fellow musicians, etc.

Reply #90 posted 08/12/17 12:19pm

motherfunka

I'll make it easy and pick things that are complete and ready to go, so we don't have to wait forever on this stuff.

1. Piano & A Microphone box set including 2 DVDs from both Paisley Park shows and 2 audio CDs from both Atlanta shows

2. DVD box set of live shows from SOTT, Lovesexy Dortmund, The Nude Tour Tokyo, Diamonds and Pearls Tour London, Act I Detroit, Musicology Detroit, 21 Nights In London Sep 13, Welcome 2 America North Charleston, SC 3/30/11, Welcome 2 Australia, Brisbane, 5/18/12, Welcome 2 Chicago, 9/12, 3RDEYEGIRL HitNRun Part II Paris, 6/1/14, and any others that are ready to go

Reply #91 posted 08/12/17 12:25pm

luvsexy4all

motherfunka said:

I'll make it easy and pick things that are complete and ready to go, so we don't have to wait forever on this stuff.

1. Piano & A Microphone box set including 2 DVDs from both Paisley Park shows and 2 audio CDs from both Atlanta shows

2. DVD box set of live shows from SOTT, Lovesexy Dortmund, The Nude Tour Tokyo, Diamonds and Pearls Tour London, Act I Detroit, Musicology Detroit, 21 Nights In London Sep 13, Welcome 2 America North Charleston, SC 3/30/11, Welcome 2 Australia, Brisbane, 5/18/12, Welcome 2 Chicago, 9/12, 3RDEYEGIRL HitNRun Part II Paris, 6/1/14, and any others that are ready to go

albums that r completed r also ready to go....

Reply #92 posted 08/12/17 12:39pm

fabriziovenerandi

OperatingThetan said:

Black is the New Black, HitnRun Phase 3 and any other final unreleased albums and songs from 2010-16.

+1

And other non-released projects like The Rainbow Children II, Crystal Ball II, Madrid 2 Chicago, Roadhouse Garden

Reply #93 posted 08/12/17 1:21pm

lion88

1. First Avenue DVD 3/8/83 and 7/6/84 shows

2. Piano & A Microphone DVD /CD Box

Reply #94 posted 08/12/17 3:55pm

206Michelle

fredmagnus said:

Why so many orgers are asking for material we already have ?? Does a legit release change anything to the sound ??

With all the unheard material lying there in the Vault, I really can't get it.
[Edited 8/12/17 10:43am]

I am a younger Prince fan (age 31) and I would like hard copies of his albums that are out of print. Yes, it is possible to buy out of print albums online, but I have no way of knowing if the albums are legitimate copies or bootlegs. It's insane that Diamonds and Pearls, one of his best-selling albums, is out of print.
Live 4 Love ~ Love is God, God is love, Girls and boys love God above
Reply #95 posted 08/12/17 4:34pm

javiergangoiti

Remember this? sad

https://www.instagram.com/p/9KfC_CmLVo/
[Edited 8/12/17 16:35pm]
Reply #96 posted 08/12/17 5:05pm

PurpleYoda3121

Moonbeam said:

First of all, thank you so much, June7, for organizing this. It is wonderful to get direct feedback from the estate, and I hope such correspondence can continue somehow.

I think this presents an amazing opportunity for fans to get involved with upcoming releases. Just a suggestion: maybe we should use this thread to collate ideas, and the top 10 or so can be put into a big poll such that the most popular options are presented to the estate? We could advertise such a thing widely among the community through Facebook groups and other purple outlets.

As for my picks, it is really hard to limit it to just 2, but I'd decided on the following:

1. Lovesexy Deluxe, as follows:


  • Disc 1: the album with 9 separate tracks

  • Disc 2: The Black Album: these albums are forever paired in Prince lore, and this would be an opportunity to cement their union as demonstrated in the Lovesexy Tour

  • Disc 3: an outtakes disc, preferably containing the final configuration of the aborted Rave Unto the Joy Fantastic album as well as the other considered tracks as bonus tracks (15 tracks total)

  • Disc 4: Livesexy on DVD

  • Disc 5/6: Audio (video?) of the famous Small Club performance

Why? It serves several needs by releasing one of Prince's most fan-beloved albums in tracked form (a streaming version of which would likely help boost streams), releasing Prince's most notorious bootlegs in The Black Album and the Small Club performance, a fully sequenced unreleased album which overlaps with Small Club ("Rave" and "Still Would Stand All Time"), and a digital version of one of his most celebrated tours.

2. Piano and a Microphone box set, containing at least the first show at Paisley Park and the last show at Atlanta. A more deluxe version could contain a selection of other shows or highlights therein (not my idea - I believe there was a thread here recently which proposed something like this).

Why? Prince indicated that he was working on the Atlanta show for subsequent release anyway, so it would be a touching way to continue his wishes and show off to the world what an amazingly intimate and powerful tour it was.


This right here is what I want.
U fall in love 2 fast and hate 2 soon
And take 4 granted the feeling’s mutual
Reply #97 posted 08/12/17 6:08pm

Moonbeam

I strongly disagree with those turning up their noses at suggestions of content that has been previously bootlegged. I feel that if you've enjoyed content that Prince didn't officially release over the years, you owe it to his legacy to support the material if given an official release. Just because you and I have heard this content does not mean that it should remain officially in the Vault, and new fans curious to explore the mythology behind Prince's Vault deserve to be rewarded with tracks that most of us know and love. I was very touched when "Moonbeam Levels" was officially available for the world to hear, and I didn't think twice about buying it because I already had it unofficially. Prince has a lot of great songs that are widely celebrated among the fan base despite not having an official release, and those songs deserve the recognition of an official release.

Of course, we all want to hear stuff that is unknown to us as well, but given Sharon's response to the question regarding a premium subscription service, I'm sure the estate is aware that the hardcore fans will gobble up just about whatever is put up on such a service.

Feel free to join in the Prince Song Poll 2016! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince songs, as decided by you!
Reply #98 posted 08/12/17 6:31pm

donnyenglish

If they are going to release the gala dvd it must be both complete shows. They tell a story and his entire final official concert at Paisley must be preserved and given to the fans. It was so special. Every fan must get th chance to experience it.
Reply #99 posted 08/12/17 6:52pm

motherfunka

donnyenglish said:

If they are going to release the gala dvd it must be both complete shows. They tell a story and his entire final official concert at Paisley must be preserved and given to the fans. It was so special. Every fan must get th chance to experience it.

nod

Reply #100 posted 08/12/17 8:12pm

luvgirl

1-Piano & A Microphone complete DVD box set!

2-1999 triple threat tour!

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Honorable mentions:

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3-First Avenue August 3rd 1983 concert

4-Second Coming

[Edited 8/14/17 6:14am]

I just want you here, I just want you near me baby, cause I'm scared I'll cry, I love you like crazy.
~RIP~
Reply #101 posted 08/12/17 9:10pm

gandorb

djThunderfunk said:

#1 Both Atlanta P&M shows, CD + Bluray


#2 Black Is The New Black, -OR-, "album" of most recently finished studio tracks



 



I yeahthat
Reply #102 posted 08/13/17 1:10am

andrewm7

I have an idea :

The Beautiful Ones- a collection of unreleased ballads and music that he made for the women in his life. This could perhaps tie into the work that Prince was contemplating (or beginning?) near the very end of his time here that Omar Baker mentioned.

I would also love to see a carefully curated version of the piano and microphone tour.

[Edited 8/13/17 1:11am]

Reply #103 posted 08/13/17 3:20am

MMJas

Could the mods make a poll out of all the suggestions so that people can vote? I mean, this is going to be a nightmare for the Estate to decide on.
Maybe they're giving us a taste of what their current situation is, regarding choices and decisions...

Reply #104 posted 08/13/17 4:35am

Neversin

- A complete "First Avenue" boxset with video (where available); all shows he did there...


- Get in contact with WBR and PROFESSIONALLY remaster an archival edition of "For You" and get in contact with Chris Moon, Tommy Vicari, band members, engineers and archivers to collect as much material and info as possible for such a release... And do the same for the rest of his WBR releases...

And steer clear from the people who designed that horrid "Purple Rain" deluxe thing and instead make it sturdy and not a cheap looking and quickly degrading digipack...

Or simply said: spend money to make money...


- Release the completed albums like the album between "Purple Rain" and "Around The World In A Day", "Dream Factory", "Camille", "Crystall Ball", "Rave Unto The Joy Fantastic", "Heart" and everything in between and after...
Compile them with a bonus disc with the alternate versions, demo's, song recorded during those sessions that weren't specifically for any albums etc.


- Open up a website and organise it by date and release every single show from a tour including the afternoon soundcheck/rehearsal, support act (where he usually played along with the act backstage), main show and aftershow (where available)... Video releases of these would be perfect too...


- Release a compilation of every cover he recorded in the studio...

- Release his versions of released songs/albums by other artists (where available)...


- Release the complete footage that were used for documentaries.

- Release his short movies.

- Release albums of his musical ideas with the alternate versions of released and unreleased album tracks.

- Release rehearsals that contain basic and initial versions of released and unreleased tracks.

Neversin.

[Edited 8/13/17 4:39am]

O(+>NIИ<+)O

“Is man merely a mistake of God's? Or God merely a mistake of man's?”

- Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche
Reply #105 posted 08/13/17 5:12am

Sensible

1.Piano & A Microphone Gala Jan 21st, both shows DVD + download.

2. As much music by Prince's collaboration with The Revolution and Wendy & Lisa as you can find put together in a box set.
Reply #106 posted 08/13/17 7:11am

June7

Moderator

moderator

MMJas said:

Could the mods make a poll out of all the suggestions so that people can vote? I mean, this is going to be a nightmare for the Estate to decide on.
Maybe they're giving us a taste of what their current situation is, regarding choices and decisions...


It's on the front page.
[PRINCE 4EVER!]

[June7, "ModGod"]
Reply #107 posted 08/13/17 7:25am

rudeboy4711

Here are my top 2 picks/suggestions:

1. A compilation that includes all the music Prince recorded before the release of For You. This would include the 1976 Home and Moonsound studio recordings, the Loring Park Sessions, and the Sound 80 studio recordings.

2. The professionally shot concert footage that was to be used for the Second Coming movie including the unfinished movie scenes.
Reply #108 posted 08/13/17 8:26am

sebastian

A DVD of the Piano & Microphone concerts (particularly the first show at Paisley Park on January 21, 2016) cool

Reply #109 posted 08/13/17 9:55am

meejaboy

PurpleYoda3121 said:

Moonbeam said:

First of all, thank you so much, June7, for organizing this. It is wonderful to get direct feedback from the estate, and I hope such correspondence can continue somehow.

I think this presents an amazing opportunity for fans to get involved with upcoming releases. Just a suggestion: maybe we should use this thread to collate ideas, and the top 10 or so can be put into a big poll such that the most popular options are presented to the estate? We could advertise such a thing widely among the community through Facebook groups and other purple outlets.

As for my picks, it is really hard to limit it to just 2, but I'd decided on the following:

1. Lovesexy Deluxe, as follows:

  • Disc 1: the album with 9 separate tracks
  • Disc 2: The Black Album: these albums are forever paired in Prince lore, and this would be an opportunity to cement their union as demonstrated in the Lovesexy Tour
  • Disc 3: an outtakes disc, preferably containing the final configuration of the aborted Rave Unto the Joy Fantastic album as well as the other considered tracks as bonus tracks (15 tracks total)
  • Disc 4: Livesexy on DVD
  • Disc 5/6: Audio (video?) of the famous Small Club performance

Why? It serves several needs by releasing one of Prince's most fan-beloved albums in tracked form (a streaming version of which would likely help boost streams), releasing Prince's most notorious bootlegs in The Black Album and the Small Club performance, a fully sequenced unreleased album which overlaps with Small Club ("Rave" and "Still Would Stand All Time"), and a digital version of one of his most celebrated tours.

2. Piano and a Microphone box set, containing at least the first show at Paisley Park and the last show at Atlanta. A more deluxe version could contain a selection of other shows or highlights therein (not my idea - I believe there was a thread here recently which proposed something like this).

Why? Prince indicated that he was working on the Atlanta show for subsequent release anyway, so it would be a touching way to continue his wishes and show off to the world what an amazingly intimate and powerful tour it was.

This right here is what I want.

Yup - this is absolutely correct.

And definitely not some "Crystal Ball II and III" nonsense - this stuff needs to be curated and collected together into an intelligible story and put into context - not just a grab bag of tracks people think they'd like to hear.

Reply #110 posted 08/13/17 10:41am

JovanMusk1986

G-Spot.the kiowa trail recording...that's my favorite one...it's the one where prince says "you're making too many records"...🎼🎶😊😍
"And when the day breaks...the reflection in which i choose will be the one that holds love for you."
-what Prince said to me in 2004.💕
Reply #111 posted 08/13/17 11:36am

alb69

P & M lol

the live albumset set out by prince

O2

Reply #112 posted 08/13/17 11:59am

PurpleMamacita

Piano and Microphone DVD & CD

What others have said about unrelased later works: HitNRun 3, Black is the New Black

Get ready cuz we're comin' wit da old skool
Reply #113 posted 08/13/17 12:27pm

mikeyaddict

June7 said:

MMJas said:

Could the mods make a poll out of all the suggestions so that people can vote? I mean, this is going to be a nightmare for the Estate to decide on.
Maybe they're giving us a taste of what their current situation is, regarding choices and decisions...


It's on the front page.


I saw you'd said, 'done and done' earlier then couldn't see where the poll was, I rarely go to the front page now. It's kinda disheartening that Black is the New Black doesn't have more votes. It's our last chance to get close to contemporary as it was happening Prince. There's years for the rest to come out.
Comin str8 outta Preston...
Reply #114 posted 08/13/17 1:37pm

bluefish

woogiebear said:

1)Piano & A Microphone (The LAST SHOW)

2)Roadhouse Garden- The Revolution have been firing on ALL Cylinders!! It'd be interesting 2 hear the FULL ALBUM!!!

cool cool


My choices, also.

‎PRINCE: 1958 - infinity
Reply #115 posted 08/13/17 3:18pm

214

Moonbeam said:

I strongly disagree with those turning up their noses at suggestions of content that has been previously bootlegged. I feel that if you've enjoyed content that Prince didn't officially release over the years, you owe it to his legacy to support the material if given an official release. Just because you and I have heard this content does not mean that it should remain officially in the Vault, and new fans curious to explore the mythology behind Prince's Vault deserve to be rewarded with tracks that most of us know and love. I was very touched when "Moonbeam Levels" was officially available for the world to hear, and I didn't think twice about buying it because I already had it unofficially. Prince has a lot of great songs that are widely celebrated among the fan base despite not having an official release, and those songs deserve the recognition of an official release.

Of course, we all want to hear stuff that is unknown to us as well, but given Sharon's response to the question regarding a premium subscription service, I'm sure the estate is aware that the hardcore fans will gobble up just about whatever is put up on such a service.

Agree wholeheartedly with what you have stated.

Reply #116 posted 08/13/17 4:06pm

mbdtyler

Moonbeam said:

I strongly disagree with those turning up their noses at suggestions of content that has been previously bootlegged. I feel that if you've enjoyed content that Prince didn't officially release over the years, you owe it to his legacy to support the material if given an official release. Just because you and I have heard this content does not mean that it should remain officially in the Vault, and new fans curious to explore the mythology behind Prince's Vault deserve to be rewarded with tracks that most of us know and love. I was very touched when "Moonbeam Levels" was officially available for the world to hear, and I didn't think twice about buying it because I already had it unofficially. Prince has a lot of great songs that are widely celebrated among the fan base despite not having an official release, and those songs deserve the recognition of an official release.

Of course, we all want to hear stuff that is unknown to us as well, but given Sharon's response to the question regarding a premium subscription service, I'm sure the estate is aware that the hardcore fans will gobble up just about whatever is put up on such a service.

nod Well said. Also, while it's probably gonna take some time for ANY of this to see an official release, I'm sure the stuff like Black Is The New Black will be at the forefront of what is to be released even if it isn't the first thing put out from the vault. It'll all be out eventually.

Reply #117 posted 08/13/17 6:08pm

GiggityGoo

I'm not much a fan of live music on CD... I'd rather be at the concerts. I'm much more into the studio stuff. I'd like:

.

- "The Dawn": all the relevant tracks (especially the rumored, mythical "electric" version of "Welcome 2 The Dawn")

.

- remastered "Sign 'O' The Times" with as many unreleased-or-rare Vault tracks as possible

.

Those two things would make me giddy with joy.

Reply #118 posted 08/13/17 10:38pm

1725topp

Release a series of all the live shows/tours on DVD and audio.

Reply #119 posted 08/14/17 12:59am

tbokris

I'm glad to see that the golden era outtakes is what people want most. But does it have to be in the form of Crystal Ball 1,2 and 3.
Wouldn't 3 box sets of studio outtakes of 83-85, 85-86 and 87-89 be much more interesting?
.
[Edited 8/18/17 2:16am]
Reply #120 posted 08/14/17 2:48am

MMJas

June7 said:

MMJas said:

Could the mods make a poll out of all the suggestions so that people can vote? I mean, this is going to be a nightmare for the Estate to decide on.
Maybe they're giving us a taste of what their current situation is, regarding choices and decisions...

It's on the front page.

Thanks. I voted already. P&M CD and DVD set and a new Prince album, with new songs. Like many have also stated, we got plenty of time to get remastered albums, collaboration albums, live set for this or that era. I truly want to hear new Prince music. A whole album of new songs, preferably songs that he considered ready to be released but was waiting for a specific time/context.

Reply #121 posted 08/14/17 3:06am

Rebeljuice

tbokris said:

I think the mods should have waited to see some Of the more interesting suggestions on this thread before making the poll. . But I'm glad to see that the golden era outtakes is what people want most. But does it have to be in the form of Crystal Ball 1,2 and 3. Wouldn't 3 box sets of studio outtakes of 83-85, 85-86 and 87-89 be much more interesting? .


Agreed. The very nature of CB type releases would mean each release would be slightly less appealling than the last. By the time CB XXXV comes along, they would be sweeping the cutting room floor looking for things to add to it. Not a great strategy. The estate wants gems and "holy grails" to be included on every release. The best way to achieve that is to simply do everything chronologically, wheat mixed with chaff, and they will be guaranteed several gems within each release. Like you say, keep everything tied together by year or era much like the "1986 - a year in the studio" boot.



Reply #122 posted 08/14/17 5:19am

javiergangoiti

How is the scoreboard going? Who are the finalist?
Reply #123 posted 08/14/17 7:00am

tbokris

Rebeljuice said:

tbokris said:

I think the mods should have waited to see some Of the more interesting suggestions on this thread before making the poll. . But I'm glad to see that the golden era outtakes is what people want most. But does it have to be in the form of Crystal Ball 1,2 and 3. Wouldn't 3 box sets of studio outtakes of 83-85, 85-86 and 87-89 be much more interesting? .


Agreed. The very nature of CB type releases would mean each release would be slightly less appealling than the last. By the time CB XXXV comes along, they would be sweeping the cutting room floor looking for things to add to it. Not a great strategy. The estate wants gems and "holy grails" to be included on every release. The best way to achieve that is to simply do everything chronologically, wheat mixed with chaff, and they will be guaranteed several gems within each release. Like you say, keep everything tied together by year or era much like the "1986 - a year in the studio" boot.

I really hope the Estate gets to a point where they are scraping the barrell, but Crystal Ball for me, was hampered by how it wasn't chronological within itself.

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The Lovesexy Boxset that was suggested - is a great idea - but it's mostly stuff that has already been legitimately released.

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There's 2 things I would love the estate to do:

1) Start to release a Studio Outtakes Series of boxsets chronologically organised

2) All of that film footage Prince shot for himself of concerts and documentary footage of Prince behind the scenes. A really decent Blu-Ray release of Prince's own archive of footage would be amazing. Why not a "Prince Live 1983-93" 8-Disc Blu Ray boxset?

3) Camille Remastered and pressed as an album with the original artwork that no one has seen.

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Reply #124 posted 08/14/17 7:31am

AdorePRN

Piano & Microphone concert

1983 First Ave DVD

Reply #125 posted 08/14/17 7:31am

CDinwiddie

Am I the only one around here thinking that this poll should be a little more "multiple choice" or a little more "scientific." I'm concerned that the big broad question "what do you want?" and the free form answers aren't the right approach.

I'm not coming from a place of criticism, just wanted to share one man's opinion. I'm super grateful to those that organized this interview in the first place.

Look at Peach & Black Podcast's "more scientific" poll about the contents and quality of the PR Remaster. Once the poll closed, there were actual statistics about the fan community's reaction to the set. Shouldn't this poll be similar??? In fact, from where I sit, the answer to the "what should the Estate release next?" and "what are fans willing to pay?" and "how would fans like to consume/receive the content?" are questions that are FAR more important than feedback on the PR Remaster. That horse has already left the barn. We are now talking about the future.

If we believe that there is a meaningful opportunity to provide this feedback and that the estate will inform its decisions, in part, based on this feedback... shouldn't we do this in a way that really gives them the information (read, data) that the need to make a BUSINESS decision.

After all, as it relates to the estate, "This is a business! And you ain't too far gone to see that yet!" (sorry, couldn't help it)

Reply #126 posted 08/14/17 7:36am

CDinwiddie

http://yarn.co/yarn-clip/b916b33a-1fe6-418d-a030-d228d33fcc7c

Reply #127 posted 08/14/17 7:55am

lust

Pretty clear that piano and a mic stands out by a long shot.

I guess if they're really listening, that will be it.
If the milk turns out to be sour, I aint the kinda pussy to drink it!
Reply #128 posted 08/14/17 9:32am

jaimestarr79

1) Box set of songs that are Remixes of previously released songs, Alternate Versions of previous released songs, and songs that he gave to other artists that he eventually recorded (Example 100mph, High fashion, screams of passion)

2) Box set of Unreleased Songs from the vault

Reply #129 posted 08/14/17 12:13pm

TheFman

Full 80's albums that where unreleased, in the way they were intended.

Reply #130 posted 08/14/17 1:06pm

babynoz

I would like to have the 3121 movie and a Piano and Microphone DVD please. cool

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
Reply #131 posted 08/14/17 1:14pm

luvsexy4all

makes sense the next should be his final studio recording ---Black is the new Black

and final live recording...atlanta

Reply #132 posted 08/14/17 1:27pm

thedoorkeeper

I recall a few years ago Prince saying in an interview that he had 10 albums all ready to go - artwork & packaging all completed. I'd be interested in seeing these albums released first as they are Prince sanctioned.
Reply #133 posted 08/14/17 2:21pm

partyup77

1) A massive box set of studio outtakes

2) Piano & Microphone Tour - Paisley Park DVD and Atlanta audio.

Reply #134 posted 08/14/17 3:16pm

kindofblue

Sorry to enter into the discussion so late, but I am really disappointed by the suggestions made in this thread. We are asked what we want to see released from the mythological vault - and all you can think of is a cd/dvd-set of the 1st Ave gig from 1983, or the Piano & A Microphone Shows from Paisley Park?

Who if not Prince should at least match if not top the latest archive releases from fellow legendary artists like Bob Dylan or The Greatful Dead. I said this before, but Dylan's latest release was a 36 CD set of all his recorded live shows from 1966 (very affordably priced, btw), and before that came a 6 CD set of all his home recordings from 1967. That's what we need from Prince!

And Grateful Dead fans were treated to a 80 CD set containing 30 previously unreleased live concerts last year. Not for streaming, not from some small record company, but from Rhino. Wonderful to look at, including a 288 page book, and for those who want their music as files only (I surely don't!!!) also including a USB stick with all files in flac format.

As far as I'm concerned that's what we should talk about here! Let's make it big and comprehensive. Let's talk about sets containing 40 or 80 CDs, covering whole eras in a comprehensive way. The 1986 Box Set that was discussed here two years ago would be a nice way to start. 20+ CDs with all the Studio Sessions and canceled releases from that year (incl. The Flesh, Dream Factory, Camille) plus key concerts and rehearsals.

Less then that just won't do. Thanks for listening!

Reply #135 posted 08/14/17 3:26pm

tbokris

Yes. Totally agree. More people should champion suggestions like this.

kindofblue said:

Sorry to enter into the discussion so late, but I am really disappointed by the suggestions made in this thread. We are asked what we want to see released from the mythological vault - and all you can think of is a cd/dvd-set of the 1st Ave gig from 1983, or the Piano & A Microphone Shows from Paisley Park?


 


Who if not Prince should at least match if not top the latest archive releases from fellow legendary artists like Bob Dylan or The Greatful Dead. I said this before, but Dylan's latest release was a 36 CD set of all his recorded live shows from 1966 (very affordably priced, btw), and before that came a 6 CD set of all his home recordings from 1967. That's what we need from Prince!


 


And Grateful Dead fans were treated to a 80 CD set containing 30 previously unreleased live concerts last year. Not for streaming, not from some small record company, but from Rhino. Wonderful to look at, including a 288 page book, and for those who want their music as files only (I surely don't!!!) also including a USB stick with all files in flac format.


 


As far as I'm concerned that's what we should talk about here! Let's make it big and comprehensive. Let's talk about sets containing 40 or 80 CDs, covering whole eras in a comprehensive way. The 1986 Box Set that was discussed here two years ago would be a nice way to start. 20+ CDs with all the Studio Sessions and canceled releases from that year (incl. The Flesh, Dream Factory, Camille) plus key concerts and rehearsals.


 


Less then that just won't do. Thanks for listening!


 


 


 


 


 

Reply #136 posted 08/14/17 6:31pm

206Michelle

When I completed the poll, I was only able to select one option, not two. Did anyone else have this same issue?
Live 4 Love ~ Love is God, God is love, Girls and boys love God above
Reply #137 posted 08/14/17 7:04pm

williamb610

kindofblue said:

Sorry to enter into the discussion so late, but I am really disappointed by the suggestions made in this thread. We are asked what we want to see released from the mythological vault - and all you can think of is a cd/dvd-set of the 1st Ave gig from 1983, or the Piano & A Microphone Shows from Paisley Park?

Who if not Prince should at least match if not top the latest archive releases from fellow legendary artists like Bob Dylan or The Greatful Dead. I said this before, but Dylan's latest release was a 36 CD set of all his recorded live shows from 1966 (very affordably priced, btw), and before that came a 6 CD set of all his home recordings from 1967. That's what we need from Prince!

And Grateful Dead fans were treated to a 80 CD set containing 30 previously unreleased live concerts last year. Not for streaming, not from some small record company, but from Rhino. Wonderful to look at, including a 288 page book, and for those who want their music as files only (I surely don't!!!) also including a USB stick with all files in flac format.

As far as I'm concerned that's what we should talk about here! Let's make it big and comprehensive. Let's talk about sets containing 40 or 80 CDs, covering whole eras in a comprehensive way. The 1986 Box Set that was discussed here two years ago would be a nice way to start. 20+ CDs with all the Studio Sessions and canceled releases from that year (incl. The Flesh, Dream Factory, Camille) plus key concerts and rehearsals.

Less then that just won't do. Thanks for listening!

I'm with kindofblue! 80+ CD sets or home video/DVD sets are the way to go. The more Prince...the better!

Reply #138 posted 08/14/17 8:36pm

blackmoondaughter

kindofblue said:

Sorry to enter into the discussion so late, but I am really disappointed by the suggestions made in this thread. We are asked what we want to see released from the mythological vault - and all you can think of is a cd/dvd-set of the 1st Ave gig from 1983, or the Piano & A Microphone Shows from Paisley Park?

Who if not Prince should at least match if not top the latest archive releases from fellow legendary artists like Bob Dylan or The Greatful Dead. I said this before, but Dylan's latest release was a 36 CD set of all his recorded live shows from 1966 (very affordably priced, btw), and before that came a 6 CD set of all his home recordings from 1967. That's what we need from Prince!

And Grateful Dead fans were treated to a 80 CD set containing 30 previously unreleased live concerts last year. Not for streaming, not from some small record company, but from Rhino. Wonderful to look at, including a 288 page book, and for those who want their music as files only (I surely don't!!!) also including a USB stick with all files in flac format.

As far as I'm concerned that's what we should talk about here! Let's make it big and comprehensive. Let's talk about sets containing 40 or 80 CDs, covering whole eras in a comprehensive way. The 1986 Box Set that was discussed here two years ago would be a nice way to start. 20+ CDs with all the Studio Sessions and canceled releases from that year (incl. The Flesh, Dream Factory, Camille) plus key concerts and rehearsals.

Less then that just won't do. Thanks for listening!

Both Dylan and The Grateful Dead have been putting out official releases of previously unreleased/bootlegged material since the 90's. Nobody aside from Prince himself, his associated artists or engineers had even stepped foot in the the vault before April 2016. According to Ms. Nelson, "there is a lot of content that it is still being looked at this time," and it is still being digitized, which will likely be a long process. The first and last Piano & A Microphone shows and "Black Is The New Black" are D-O-N-E. According to comments Prince made on April 17 and comments his band members have made, Prince planned to release both very soon. Those who have suggested that the P&M shows or the last album he wrote should be released next are not being "unimaginative". Dude, a lot of them are exercising common sense. Despite the Paisley Park Purple Rain remaster having been delivered in 2015, the official release date was still pushed back. So imagine the time the estate will need to put together something as carefully curated like Dylan's bootleg series when they're still at square one. I'm pretty confident that eventually they'll get to that point and we'll get to hear everything in the vault that we've always mythologized, but they need time. If the heading to this thread was "pick two things from the vault you'd save if it was going to detonate in five minutes", I don't think I'd make the two suggestions that I did, but they want the next two releases. The vault will probably outlive many of us.

[Edited 8/14/17 20:38pm]

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[Edited 8/14/17 20:41pm]

Reply #139 posted 08/14/17 9:29pm

Moonbeam

kindofblue said:

Sorry to enter into the discussion so late, but I am really disappointed by the suggestions made in this thread. We are asked what we want to see released from the mythological vault - and all you can think of is a cd/dvd-set of the 1st Ave gig from 1983, or the Piano & A Microphone Shows from Paisley Park?

Who if not Prince should at least match if not top the latest archive releases from fellow legendary artists like Bob Dylan or The Greatful Dead. I said this before, but Dylan's latest release was a 36 CD set of all his recorded live shows from 1966 (very affordably priced, btw), and before that came a 6 CD set of all his home recordings from 1967. That's what we need from Prince!

And Grateful Dead fans were treated to a 80 CD set containing 30 previously unreleased live concerts last year. Not for streaming, not from some small record company, but from Rhino. Wonderful to look at, including a 288 page book, and for those who want their music as files only (I surely don't!!!) also including a USB stick with all files in flac format.

As far as I'm concerned that's what we should talk about here! Let's make it big and comprehensive. Let's talk about sets containing 40 or 80 CDs, covering whole eras in a comprehensive way. The 1986 Box Set that was discussed here two years ago would be a nice way to start. 20+ CDs with all the Studio Sessions and canceled releases from that year (incl. The Flesh, Dream Factory, Camille) plus key concerts and rehearsals.

Less then that just won't do. Thanks for listening!

I like the "go big" approach, but given that Sharon said the estate will "consider" it, I thought it was more practical to go with something that the estate might be likely to see through. I also understood the request to be for the next two releases, not the only two.

Having a 20+ CD set put together given legal issues around the work would take quite some time, IMO, though I'd obviously love something like that to eventuate once the dust settles.

Feel free to join in the Prince Song Poll 2016! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince songs, as decided by you!
Reply #140 posted 08/14/17 9:37pm

Moonbeam

CDinwiddie said:

Am I the only one around here thinking that this poll should be a little more "multiple choice" or a little more "scientific." I'm concerned that the big broad question "what do you want?" and the free form answers aren't the right approach.

I'm not coming from a place of criticism, just wanted to share one man's opinion. I'm super grateful to those that organized this interview in the first place.

Look at Peach & Black Podcast's "more scientific" poll about the contents and quality of the PR Remaster. Once the poll closed, there were actual statistics about the fan community's reaction to the set. Shouldn't this poll be similar??? In fact, from where I sit, the answer to the "what should the Estate release next?" and "what are fans willing to pay?" and "how would fans like to consume/receive the content?" are questions that are FAR more important than feedback on the PR Remaster. That horse has already left the barn. We are now talking about the future.

If we believe that there is a meaningful opportunity to provide this feedback and that the estate will inform its decisions, in part, based on this feedback... shouldn't we do this in a way that really gives them the information (read, data) that the need to make a BUSINESS decision.

After all, as it relates to the estate, "This is a business! And you ain't too far gone to see that yet!" (sorry, couldn't help it)


I also have thought about how the poll could be possibly more informative. Some of the poll choices are fairly vague: what exactly is someone voting for if they select a SOTT deluxe + DVD or Paisley Park performance collection CD and DVD?

Also, it might be worth having a poll run where users can vote on all of the nominated choices, by selecting how they feel about the release. It could be set up like this:

Release 1 (see full details on ThreadXXXX): How likely would you be to buy this?

-Very Likely
-Somewhat Likely
-Unsure

-Somewhat Unlikely
-Very Unlikely

How much priority do you feel this release should be given over other candidate releases?

-High Priority

-Medium Priority

-Low Priority

-No Priority

Release 2 (see full details on ThreadXXXX): How likely would you be to buy this?

-Very Likely
-Somewhat Likely
-Unsure

-Somewhat Unlikely
-Very Unlikely

How much priority do you feel this release should be given over other candidate releases?

-High Priority

-Medium Priority

-Low Priority

-No Priority

Such a poll could be set up as a Google Doc and be linked from the front page.

Feel free to join in the Prince Song Poll 2016! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince songs, as decided by you!
Reply #141 posted 08/15/17 2:23am

TheFman

it's vague indeed. A 'new' album a la some MJ album i dont know??? What's that supposed to mean?


On one side it's good to see crystal balls set winning, on other side that's horror cause the first one sucked balls and many songs what were to be on regular albums were there, thus raping the possible regular albums a la the real CB.

Reply #142 posted 08/15/17 8:26am

TheFreakerFantastic

Seeing as next year is the 30th anniversary and to reflect Prince's spiritual beliefs and reference to the afterlife, I think it would make sense for the next release to be a

LOVESEXY SPECIAL EDITION FOR 2018, inc some new outtakes.

The original RAVE UN2 THE JOY FANTASTIC album as planned from 1988.

CRYSTAL BALL PART II - a 3cd box set of new outtakes.

PIANO AND MICROPHONE LIVE

As to other remasters, my pref would be:

CONTROVERSY special edition (with outtakes too like Hard To Get '81 / She's Just a Baby)

1999 special edition (NO CALL U, Yah, U know, Baby You're a Trip, Lust u Always etc etc)

[Edited 8/15/17 8:28am]

Reply #143 posted 08/15/17 8:46am

CDinwiddie

Moonbeam said:

CDinwiddie said:

Am I the only one around here thinking that this poll should be a little more "multiple choice" or a little more "scientific." I'm concerned that the big broad question "what do you want?" and the free form answers aren't the right approach.

I'm not coming from a place of criticism, just wanted to share one man's opinion. I'm super grateful to those that organized this interview in the first place.

Look at Peach & Black Podcast's "more scientific" poll about the contents and quality of the PR Remaster. Once the poll closed, there were actual statistics about the fan community's reaction to the set. Shouldn't this poll be similar??? In fact, from where I sit, the answer to the "what should the Estate release next?" and "what are fans willing to pay?" and "how would fans like to consume/receive the content?" are questions that are FAR more important than feedback on the PR Remaster. That horse has already left the barn. We are now talking about the future.

If we believe that there is a meaningful opportunity to provide this feedback and that the estate will inform its decisions, in part, based on this feedback... shouldn't we do this in a way that really gives them the information (read, data) that the need to make a BUSINESS decision.

After all, as it relates to the estate, "This is a business! And you ain't too far gone to see that yet!" (sorry, couldn't help it)


I also have thought about how the poll could be possibly more informative. Some of the poll choices are fairly vague: what exactly is someone voting for if they select a SOTT deluxe + DVD or Paisley Park performance collection CD and DVD?

Also, it might be worth having a poll run where users can vote on all of the nominated choices, by selecting how they feel about the release. It could be set up like this:

Release 1 (see full details on ThreadXXXX): How likely would you be to buy this?

-Very Likely
-Somewhat Likely
-Unsure

-Somewhat Unlikely
-Very Unlikely

How much priority do you feel this release should be given over other candidate releases?

-High Priority

-Medium Priority

-Low Priority

-No Priority

Release 2 (see full details on ThreadXXXX): How likely would you be to buy this?

-Very Likely
-Somewhat Likely
-Unsure

-Somewhat Unlikely
-Very Unlikely

How much priority do you feel this release should be given over other candidate releases?

-High Priority

-Medium Priority

-Low Priority

-No Priority

Such a poll could be set up as a Google Doc and be linked from the front page.

yeahthat

I agree with Moonbeam...

I wonder if meaningful poll results could be be gleaned if we the questions were posed as follows...

1. Rank, in priority order, the era of material you are most interested in (list all eras that people can rank according to their preference):

  • Pre For You (e.g. 94 East)
  • For You
  • Prince
  • Dirty Mind
  • etc

2. Independant of the era, rank the kind of content type that you are most interested in (list of the types of content that people can rank according to their preference), e.g.:

  • Resmasters of content already officially released
  • Studio outtakes
  • Live recordings
  • Live performance video
  • Music video
  • TV Appearances
  • etc

3. Independant of the era and content type, how would you most like to consume this content, e.g. (list the available content formats):

  • Physical release
  • Streaming
  • Download
  • etc

4. What do you think is the most approprirate compensation model, e.g.:

  • Physically released audio, per song = $ ____, per album = $____
  • Physically released video, per song = $ ____, per album = $____
  • Streaming of

Should we provide the esate with this kind of meaningful AND ACTIONABLE data? Isn't this the kind of market demand information that any business needs in order to determine where they invest time and resources to serve the market???

Prince.org moderators: PLEASE provide some leadership here! Right now, the community seems to be just shouting and I think that you play a critically important role in aggregating this market demand on behalf of the community and presenting something ACTIONABLE to the estate. We can do better than this.

My $.02


Reply #144 posted 08/15/17 8:47am

thedance

next: pretty please..... woot!


For You 1978 > Lovesexy 1988, a 10 albums-boxset
.. love

remaster, with a bonus disc for each album and includes,

outtakes,
ext versions ,
b-sides.....

Prince 4Ever. heart
Reply #145 posted 08/15/17 8:49am

thedance

+ a Blu-Ray with "all known" Prince musicvideos... eek

plus, with a few from the Vaults? heart




Prince 4Ever. heart
Reply #146 posted 08/15/17 9:52am

tbokris

What if I set up a new poll on Survey Monkey and we could all suggest edits to it / add stuff, etc, and then post it in a new thread?
Reply #147 posted 08/15/17 10:09am

tbokris

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/ZPM83NN
[Edited 8/15/17 10:13am]
Reply #148 posted 08/15/17 11:01am

nelcp777

If the Estate releases anything, it will have to be something that is legally "cleared". Anything that is tied to a contract or has a hint of contract restraints, most likely will not see the light of day till the Estate is settled (just my opinion). I would imagine if this is this case, almost all the WB era stuff is restrained from release unless the heirs can negotiate the release.

I would imagine video would be hard to release unless it has been edited and is in releasable form.

Hopefully, with the interview and polling of what to release, the heirs will include the fans (org members) into future endeavors.

Reply #149 posted 08/15/17 11:20am

gubbins4ever

Picking the two next releases might be a convenient way to keep suggestions manageable but outlining a release strategy first is wiser. I wouldn't be surprised if the powers that be would conclude that releasing special editions of already released 1980s albums would be most profitable in the near term by appealing to mass audiences.

To echo another person's idea, I suggest there be two releases a year: One mass audience-oriented and one fan-targeted. The mass audience releases would be Purple Rain Deluxe-style releases for the remaining 80s (and eventually later periods) albums - SOTT, 1999, Parade, etc. These releases would be similar to PR Deluxe - remastered album, outtakes disc (but not using songs that could be featured on unreleased albums), b-sides, and a live show DVD/CD. The fan releases (which of course would still have mass audience potential) would be more eratic in style, covering unreleased albums, live shows, video collections etc.

Here's one possible release schedule (I echo the general sentiment to first release for the fan releases Prince's last unreleased album and Piano & A Microphone):

2018

1999 Deluxe

Black is the New Black

2019

SOTT Deluxe (using modern technology, the main album might be now squeezed onto one disc)

Piano & A Microphone boxset

2020

Parade Deluxe

Video collection 1979-1990 (released and previously unreleased videos; releasing all videos from Prince's whole career at once would be too much material)

2021

Dirty Mind Deluxe

Unreleased 1990s album

Reply #150 posted 08/15/17 11:34am

FragileUndertow

I'll keep it simple

Crystal Ball I, II & III CD Collection ... please

Cant believe my purple psychedelic pimp slap pimp2

And I descend from grace, In arms of undertow
I will take my place, In the great below
Reply #151 posted 08/15/17 1:06pm

petergaynor

A well curated box set of aftershows

Reply #152 posted 08/15/17 4:03pm

Ugot2shakesumthin

1. I say to have the revolution members dig some stuff up. They know what’s in there from their era.

2. Live albums from each of the tours.
Facebook is for losers.
Reply #153 posted 08/15/17 4:12pm

June7

Moderator

moderator

206Michelle said:

When I completed the poll, I was only able to select one option, not two. Did anyone else have this same issue?

[It's not a problem on your part. It's the same for everyone. The poll formatting is not set up for multiple options in selection. I'm simply going to submit the two most selected. The first hightest bar and the second highest bar. It's all I've got to work with. - June7]

[PRINCE 4EVER!]

[June7, "ModGod"]
Reply #154 posted 08/15/17 4:16pm

June7

Moderator

moderator

kindofblue said:

Sorry to enter into the discussion so late, but I am really disappointed by the suggestions made in this thread. We are asked what we want to see released from the mythological vault - and all you can think of is a cd/dvd-set of the 1st Ave gig from 1983, or the Piano & A Microphone Shows from Paisley Park?

Who if not Prince should at least match if not top the latest archive releases from fellow legendary artists like Bob Dylan or The Greatful Dead. I said this before, but Dylan's latest release was a 36 CD set of all his recorded live shows from 1966 (very affordably priced, btw), and before that came a 6 CD set of all his home recordings from 1967. That's what we need from Prince!

And Grateful Dead fans were treated to a 80 CD set containing 30 previously unreleased live concerts last year. Not for streaming, not from some small record company, but from Rhino. Wonderful to look at, including a 288 page book, and for those who want their music as files only (I surely don't!!!) also including a USB stick with all files in flac format.

As far as I'm concerned that's what we should talk about here! Let's make it big and comprehensive. Let's talk about sets containing 40 or 80 CDs, covering whole eras in a comprehensive way. The 1986 Box Set that was discussed here two years ago would be a nice way to start. 20+ CDs with all the Studio Sessions and canceled releases from that year (incl. The Flesh, Dream Factory, Camille) plus key concerts and rehearsals.

Less then that just won't do. Thanks for listening!

[This is a brilliant, well thought-out post. Regardless of the poll results, in which I will submit the two highest voted selections, I will attach this note as well. Thanks for the input! - June7]

[PRINCE 4EVER!]

[June7, "ModGod"]
Reply #155 posted 08/15/17 5:08pm

tbokris

June7 said:

 



kindofblue said:


Sorry to enter into the discussion so late, but I am really disappointed by the suggestions made in this thread. We are asked what we want to see released from the mythological vault - and all you can think of is a cd/dvd-set of the 1st Ave gig from 1983, or the Piano & A Microphone Shows from Paisley Park?


 


Who if not Prince should at least match if not top the latest archive releases from fellow legendary artists like Bob Dylan or The Greatful Dead. I said this before, but Dylan's latest release was a 36 CD set of all his recorded live shows from 1966 (very affordably priced, btw), and before that came a 6 CD set of all his home recordings from 1967. That's what we need from Prince!


 


And Grateful Dead fans were treated to a 80 CD set containing 30 previously unreleased live concerts last year. Not for streaming, not from some small record company, but from Rhino. Wonderful to look at, including a 288 page book, and for those who want their music as files only (I surely don't!!!) also including a USB stick with all files in flac format.


 


As far as I'm concerned that's what we should talk about here! Let's make it big and comprehensive. Let's talk about sets containing 40 or 80 CDs, covering whole eras in a comprehensive way. The 1986 Box Set that was discussed here two years ago would be a nice way to start. 20+ CDs with all the Studio Sessions and canceled releases from that year (incl. The Flesh, Dream Factory, Camille) plus key concerts and rehearsals.


 


Less then that just won't do. Thanks for listening!


 


 


 


 


 



[This is a brilliant, well thought-out post. Regardless of the poll results, in which I will submit the two highest voted selections, I will attach this note as well. Thanks for the input! - June7]



This is a great post but are you really going to submit the results of one badly thought out poll to the estate as being representative of what the fans want? I hope not.
Reply #156 posted 08/15/17 5:19pm

morningsong

Might as well


All P&M on DVD
Black is the new Black

“Do I dare Disturb the universe?”
― T.S. Eliot

“Only by acceptance of the past, can you alter it”
― T.S. Eliot
Reply #157 posted 08/15/17 6:49pm

OnlyNDaUsa

A set of Prince's versions of songs others released Including both the 1984/85 and 1991 studio versions of "Nothing Compares 2 U"


With Love, Honor & Respect for all of you...no matter how I argue or disagree my heart is full of love for you all...
Reply #158 posted 08/15/17 9:32pm

HatrinaHaterwitz

Sorry I'm late. It's been a busy week.

Have we reached a consensus yet? No? Cool! wink

Since it is a very well established fact that there was nothing and I do mean NOTHING like being at a Prince concert and watching Prince perform LIVE. I have personally had that pleasure multiple times, in the '80s, 90's and 2000s and I'm grateful for every single one of them. But there are so many fans that never got to see Prince in concert, through the different phases of his illustrious career.

So my suggestion is for a Deluxe DVD box set of LIVE concert performances through the years from around the world.

Yes, I know I've been begging for this for years but this time I'm not just asking for myself, dang! lol

"Style is loving yourself 'til everyone else does too."
You certainly proved that Prince, beyond any doubt.
Reply #159 posted 08/15/17 11:45pm

Lovejunky

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Sorry I'm late. It's been a busy week.

Have we reached a consensus yet? No? Cool! wink

Since it is a very well established fact that there was nothing and I do mean NOTHING like being at a Prince concert and watching Prince perform LIVE. I have personally had that pleasure multiple times, in the '80s, 90's and 2000s and I'm grateful for every single one of them. But there are so many fans that never got to see Prince in concert, through the different phases of his illustrious career.

So my suggestion is for a Deluxe DVD box set of LIVE concert performances through the years from around the world.

Yes, I know I've been begging for this for years but this time I'm not just asking for myself, dang! lol

yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes

“LOVE IS THE MASTERPLAN”
Reply #160 posted 08/15/17 11:47pm

Rebeljuice

CDinwiddie said:

Moonbeam said:


I also have thought about how the poll could be possibly more informative. Some of the poll choices are fairly vague: what exactly is someone voting for if they select a SOTT deluxe + DVD or Paisley Park performance collection CD and DVD?

Also, it might be worth having a poll run where users can vote on all of the nominated choices, by selecting how they feel about the release. It could be set up like this:

Release 1 (see full details on ThreadXXXX): How likely would you be to buy this?

-Very Likely
-Somewhat Likely
-Unsure

-Somewhat Unlikely
-Very Unlikely

How much priority do you feel this release should be given over other candidate releases?

-High Priority

-Medium Priority

-Low Priority

-No Priority

Release 2 (see full details on ThreadXXXX): How likely would you be to buy this?

-Very Likely
-Somewhat Likely
-Unsure

-Somewhat Unlikely
-Very Unlikely

How much priority do you feel this release should be given over other candidate releases?

-High Priority

-Medium Priority

-Low Priority

-No Priority

Such a poll could be set up as a Google Doc and be linked from the front page.

yeahthat

I agree with Moonbeam...

I wonder if meaningful poll results could be be gleaned if we the questions were posed as follows...

1. Rank, in priority order, the era of material you are most interested in (list all eras that people can rank according to their preference):

  • Pre For You (e.g. 94 East)
  • For You
  • Prince
  • Dirty Mind
  • etc

2. Independant of the era, rank the kind of content type that you are most interested in (list of the types of content that people can rank according to their preference), e.g.:

  • Resmasters of content already officially released
  • Studio outtakes
  • Live recordings
  • Live performance video
  • Music video
  • TV Appearances
  • etc

3. Independant of the era and content type, how would you most like to consume this content, e.g. (list the available content formats):

  • Physical release
  • Streaming
  • Download
  • etc

4. What do you think is the most approprirate compensation model, e.g.:

  • Physically released audio, per song = $ ____, per album = $____
  • Physically released video, per song = $ ____, per album = $____
  • Streaming of

Should we provide the esate with this kind of meaningful AND ACTIONABLE data? Isn't this the kind of market demand information that any business needs in order to determine where they invest time and resources to serve the market???

Prince.org moderators: PLEASE provide some leadership here! Right now, the community seems to be just shouting and I think that you play a critically important role in aggregating this market demand on behalf of the community and presenting something ACTIONABLE to the estate. We can do better than this.

My $.02



I 2nd this. It is the only way to guage the demand for the music and then put in place a business plan that will satisfy the demand.

If the estate are wanting to rush a release imminently then the poll on the first page may suffice in the short term. But going forward they need to create a strategy that not only pleases their bank managers, but also pleases the fans. Throwing out suggestions like this thread is really not what you would call market research.

It seems the org is not setup properly to conduct a proper poll with multiple options that can be selected. And the fact that it is on the home page where few of us actually visit also renders it kind of irrelevant. The poll suggested by CDinwiddie needs to be conducted properly on a platform designed for such polls and then the word needs to be spread in every forum on the org about it as well as all the various facebook pages. It will only work as a reliable poll if thousands of people take part.

I echo CDwiddie

"Prince.org moderators: PLEASE provide some leadership here! Right now, the community seems to be just shouting and I think that you play a critically important role in aggregating this market demand on behalf of the community and presenting something ACTIONABLE to the estate. We can do better than this."

Reply #161 posted 08/16/17 12:44am

tbokris

Rebeljuice said:

CDinwiddie said:

yeahthat

I agree with Moonbeam...

I wonder if meaningful poll results could be be gleaned if we the questions were posed as follows...



I 2nd this. It is the only way to guage the demand for the music and then put in place a business plan that will satisfy the demand.

It seems the org is not setup properly to conduct a proper poll with multiple options that can be selected. And the fact that it is on the home page where few of us actually visit also renders it kind of irrelevant. The poll suggested by CDinwiddie needs to be conducted properly on a platform designed for such polls and then the word needs to be spread in every forum on the org about it as well as all the various facebook pages. It will only work as a reliable poll if thousands of people take part.

I echo CDwiddie

"Prince.org moderators: PLEASE provide some leadership here! Right now, the community seems to be just shouting and I think that you play a critically important role in aggregating this market demand on behalf of the community and presenting something ACTIONABLE to the estate. We can do better than this."

.

here is a survey I made, why don't we all add/comment/edit this and then we circulate?

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/ZPM83NN

.

[Edited 8/16/17 0:45am]

Reply #162 posted 08/16/17 1:11am

fredmagnus

^

I just answered your survey but while you mentionned physical or streaming releases you forgot to mention Download releases which should be one of the options too.

Reply #163 posted 08/16/17 1:37am

Rebeljuice

tbokris said:

Rebeljuice said:


I 2nd this. It is the only way to guage the demand for the music and then put in place a business plan that will satisfy the demand.

It seems the org is not setup properly to conduct a proper poll with multiple options that can be selected. And the fact that it is on the home page where few of us actually visit also renders it kind of irrelevant. The poll suggested by CDinwiddie needs to be conducted properly on a platform designed for such polls and then the word needs to be spread in every forum on the org about it as well as all the various facebook pages. It will only work as a reliable poll if thousands of people take part.

I echo CDwiddie

"Prince.org moderators: PLEASE provide some leadership here! Right now, the community seems to be just shouting and I think that you play a critically important role in aggregating this market demand on behalf of the community and presenting something ACTIONABLE to the estate. We can do better than this."

.

here is a survey I made, why don't we all add/comment/edit this and then we circulate?

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/ZPM83NN

.

[Edited 8/16/17 0:45am]

Its a good survey, but I would avoid asking for specific things like 21 nights, CB II & III etc. There is too much to categorise that way. Rather stick to questions about eras, studio vs live, what chronological order etc.

The problem I have with the poll on the front page of the org is it someone elses ideas of compilations that I have to choose from and that poll doesn't actually contain what I really want such as chronological releases of outtakes compiled by year. CB releases dont cover that and imply a mix-match of eras which then poses the problem of what songs to include on each release, watering down the poll even further.

I would start the poll by asking for the fans' favourite era. That way we can lock down the majority era most people want to hear.

I would then ask what fans want to hear from that era the most - studio outtakes, concerts, aftershows and visuals such as concert footage, music vids etc. Allow these choices to be graded from most wanted to least wanted. We then have a lock down on era and most sought after product from that era.

then I would ask in what format the fans prefer to receive the releases - CD, vinyl, download, streaming etc.

Next question would be the type of outlet they would prefer - brick and mortar store, iTunes, Amazon, Spotify, Tidal, dedicated subscription website etc.

Finally i would ask what a fair price would be to pay for: Single CD, double CD, Triple CD, same for vinyl, song download, single album download, double album download, website anual subscription etc.

With that data the estate can then guage where the fan base is and it will give them a base from where to start working and compiling from. No need to ask about specific albums or made up compilations. those things will naturally surface based on the above poll.

If I were the estate I would have this poll on their own dedicated website. Hopefully, that website would then evolve into the subscription model that I personally would prefer where my membership gets me X amount of downloads per year (or discounts on releases), but non subscribers can still purchase downloads and physical copies of whatever gets posted on the site.

Reply #164 posted 08/16/17 5:28am

djdaffy1227

I love the diversity of the answers. I am surprised at how many people want DVD's when I would rather have CD's. DVD's never crossed my mind (I haven't even watched the one I got with the Purple Rain deluxe CD). I guess I wouldn't be against that. As great as an 80 CD set sounds I'm not sure the average fan would be able to afford something like that. I'd rather have a little at a time that wouldn't break the bank. I am realizing that I am in the minority on both accounts lol

Making love and music are the only things worth fighting for.
Reply #165 posted 08/16/17 5:34am

MMJas

djdaffy1227 said:

I love the diversity of the answers. I am surprised at how many people want DVD's when I would rather have CD's. DVD's never crossed my mind (I haven't even watched the one I got with the Purple Rain deluxe CD). I guess I wouldn't be against that. As great as an 80 CD set sounds I'm not sure the average fan would be able to afford something like that. I'd rather have a little at a time that wouldn't break the bank. I am realizing that I am in the minority on both accounts lol

Totally agree. I wouldn't be able to afford that and I'm not your average fan.

Reply #166 posted 08/16/17 6:24am

tbokris

Ok new survey being made. Take a look here. I've ran out of questions though. Anyone feel like chipping in to make up £34 to have unlimited questions?

.

Prince survey

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[Edited 8/16/17 6:25am]

Reply #167 posted 08/16/17 7:16am

databank

My holy grail is the unreleased Madrid 2 Chicago album, teased on NPGMC in 2002 and theorically recorded circa 1998.

Generally speaking I'd favor any unreleased album that may have been compiled/completed by Prince (for himself or protégés): it seems Prince was fond of the album format, and so am I.

A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...iscog/home
Reply #168 posted 08/16/17 8:02am

MMJas

databank said:

My holy grail is the unreleased Madrid 2 Chicago album, teased on NPGMC in 2002 and theorically recorded circa 1998.

Generally speaking I'd favor any unreleased album that may have been compiled/completed by Prince (for himself or protégés): it seems Prince was fond of the album format, and so am I.

Agree also. And preferably the physical format as opposed to downloads.

Reply #169 posted 08/16/17 8:32am

Lovejunky

I keep coming back here and its getting more and more complicated.

Lets face it...Everything needs to be out there...

NOW

Things are too slow....and I understand why, there are of structures that need to be created to act

as Vehicles for delivery...

THere are simple ways to do things, that

people who are habituated to complicated corporate enviroments cant bend their heads around.

He worked his whole life to get his music TO US in creative ways and at the same

time largely saved himself from being expolited...After he felt he had been

Ive said it before he was a Social Entrpreneur who used a product which was ~himself~

to generate income streams with a triple bottom line

using the basic principles of Innovate Sell Serve, Princes business ethic was very much

that of a social entrpreneur..

he wasnt in it to get rich, though he didnt do without..

he was in it to share and care..for real !!!

a) Sell niche product ~ eliminating the middle man~ Make most of the Profit!

b) Invest profit back into product development to increase the stock to increase sales and further profits

c) Skim Excess profit and direct towards Socio economies and Social causes

Getting everything out in the following way would be relatively simple to set up....

The frame work would take 25 or 30 People working in harmony

From 2006 When NPGMC announced its hiatus

"In its current form, there is a feeling that the NPGMC has gone as far as it can go," reads the statement. "Has the time come to once again make a leap of faith and begin anew? These are questions we in the NPG need to answer. In doing so, we have decided to put the club on hiatus until further notice."

2017

www.NPGMC<+/0.com

1) A Dedicated Prince streaming Platform that holds all Concert Footage, Video Clips, Movies, Any Aftershow thats been properly filmed and recorded that we may not have heard of

2) A crowdfunding initiative that calls for preorders on his entire Album Collection

Each one could be run seperately,

Limited edition Pressings for both Vinyls and CDS 1000 Pieces each

Rinse and repeat...If it turns out that 1000 are consumed quickly...just run another campaign

Leave youtube alone..stop the take downs for a year or two...

If the estate has been watching the comments they will see that there are many new and young fans who are absolutely ASTOUNDED at what they are finding...

and would buy...

especially if each CD comes with option to purchase the Merchadise from its time .

Take him straight to THE PEOPLE

The only FLAW I can identify in this approach is that it will shout out a giant FU to the WHole of the Music Industry...

This kind of direct marketing, if other artists were brave enough to adopt it, could collapse it...

at the very least cause a sizeable atrophy...

Ive been setting up socio economies in India since 1998...

Paramount in doing this work is finding NEW ways to do things

and constantly re adjusting your vision, Social Entrepreneurs are typically very fluid,

because soci economies change in structure due to being very responsive

to moves and shifts in the market.

this is the way of the future

this is a way current capitalistic explotative business structures can be rendered useless

I should have met Prince..He would have liked talking to ME on this subject...smile

edited for spelling...

[Edited 8/16/17 9:03am]

“LOVE IS THE MASTERPLAN”
Reply #170 posted 08/16/17 9:51am

jn2

The complete Parade (Detroit) Birthday show on DVD/Blue-Ray.

Reply #171 posted 08/16/17 9:58am

jn2

Neversin said:

- A complete "First Avenue" boxset with video (where available); all shows he did there...


- Get in contact with WBR and PROFESSIONALLY remaster an archival edition of "For You" and get in contact with Chris Moon, Tommy Vicari, band members, engineers and archivers to collect as much material and info as possible for such a release... And do the same for the rest of his WBR releases...

And steer clear from the people who designed that horrid "Purple Rain" deluxe thing and instead make it sturdy and not a cheap looking and quickly degrading digipack...

Or simply said: spend money to make money...


- Release the completed albums like the album between "Purple Rain" and "Around The World In A Day", "Dream Factory", "Camille", "Crystall Ball", "Rave Unto The Joy Fantastic", "Heart" and everything in between and after...
Compile them with a bonus disc with the alternate versions, demo's, song recorded during those sessions that weren't specifically for any albums etc.


- Open up a website and organise it by date and release every single show from a tour including the afternoon soundcheck/rehearsal, support act (where he usually played along with the act backstage), main show and aftershow (where available)... Video releases of these would be perfect too...


- Release a compilation of every cover he recorded in the studio...

- Release his versions of released songs/albums by other artists (where available)...


- Release the complete footage that were used for documentaries.

- Release his short movies.

- Release albums of his musical ideas with the alternate versions of released and unreleased album tracks.

- Release rehearsals that contain basic and initial versions of released and unreleased tracks.

Neversin.

[Edited 8/13/17 4:39am]

nod

Reply #172 posted 08/16/17 10:06am

madison

BLU RAY DVD

OF

LOVESEXY

AND

OTHER

CONCERTS !!!

Plus all of Videos and even the ones he didnt release .... I HATE YOU ECT ECT

Reply #173 posted 08/16/17 11:47am

luvsexy4all

MAKE IT SIMPLE......that Atlanta last show is quite good..and Black is the New Black ....r his final statements....everyone get it together...and make it these 2 to avoid delay and confusion

Reply #174 posted 08/16/17 6:52pm

blkgem616

The Camille album and any other releases that he completed and decided not to release would really be nice as things we are sure he finished and completed as he wanted them.....also dvd's/ blu-rays of concerts and videos would probably bring in lots of revenue cool

Reply #175 posted 08/17/17 2:03am

JorisE73

Neversin said:

- A complete "First Avenue" boxset with video (where available); all shows he did there...


- Get in contact with WBR and PROFESSIONALLY remaster an archival edition of "For You" and get in contact with Chris Moon, Tommy Vicari, band members, engineers and archivers to collect as much material and info as possible for such a release... And do the same for the rest of his WBR releases...

And steer clear from the people who designed that horrid "Purple Rain" deluxe thing and instead make it sturdy and not a cheap looking and quickly degrading digipack...

Or simply said: spend money to make money...


- Release the completed albums like the album between "Purple Rain" and "Around The World In A Day", "Dream Factory", "Camille", "Crystall Ball", "Rave Unto The Joy Fantastic", "Heart" and everything in between and after...
Compile them with a bonus disc with the alternate versions, demo's, song recorded during those sessions that weren't specifically for any albums etc.


- Open up a website and organise it by date and release every single show from a tour including the afternoon soundcheck/rehearsal, support act (where he usually played along with the act backstage), main show and aftershow (where available)... Video releases of these would be perfect too...


- Release a compilation of every cover he recorded in the studio...

- Release his versions of released songs/albums by other artists (where available)...


- Release the complete footage that were used for documentaries.

- Release his short movies.

- Release albums of his musical ideas with the alternate versions of released and unreleased album tracks.

- Release rehearsals that contain basic and initial versions of released and unreleased tracks.

Neversin.

[Edited 8/13/17 4:39am]

I'll take anything they release I don;t have any specifics, but this post up here should be a template they should use to release the music/videos.

Reply #176 posted 08/17/17 5:02am

LittlePurpleYoda

PLEASE approach a release schedule with some degree of logic & chronology.

If we're being granted the opportunity to pick the next two releases, I would ask that now that Purple Rain has been re-issued, for the first, a pattern be established that goes back to the very beginning.

I want to hear the very earliest stuff. Packaged alongside For You. What tracks led to that album as he was finding his sound? What was recorded but didn't make it? And let this initial release serve as the pattern for the reissues that follow.

The second & subsequent releases following this pattern could be an expanded collection of non-album tracks from that era (we'd see more of this as he recorded more in the mid 1980s), his versions of songs written for side projects during each album period, & companion live albums with an accompanying aftershow.

Why be random? Why rush things? Curate the work responsibily & with good sense. This way, we as fans, can also better anticipate what's coming, if we have some idea of the order of release. Throw in some fun surprises for events like Record Store Day & you've got a (hopefully) satisfied market.

Reply #177 posted 08/17/17 6:33am

camilleisastar

Deluxe expanded versions of SOTT, 1999, TGE and Lovesexy initially then all major albums deluxe expanded- Dirty Mind, ATWIAD, Parade etc

Reply #178 posted 08/17/17 7:33am

wouldntulove2loveme

A complete box set of the Clare Fischer sessions, Black is the New Black, The Second Coming
If a man is considered guilty
For what goes on in his mind
Then give me the electric chair
For all my future crimes"
Reply #179 posted 08/17/17 2:18pm

tishal

Piano & A Microphone - especially last show

21 nights

Sydneyapolis

Montreux Jazz Festivals

Reply #180 posted 08/17/17 5:33pm

sonshine

MMJas said:

 



djdaffy1227 said:


I love the diversity of the answers. I am surprised at how many people want DVD's when I would rather have CD's. DVD's never crossed my mind (I haven't even watched the one I got with the Purple Rain deluxe CD). I guess I wouldn't be against that. As great as an 80 CD set sounds I'm not sure the average fan would be able to afford something like that. I'd rather have a little at a time that wouldn't break the bank. I am realizing that I am in the minority on both accounts lol



 


Totally agree. I wouldn't be able to afford that and I'm not your average fan. 



+1

As awesome as it sounds an 80 cd set would be overwhelming and would take possibly years to properly digest. I would prefer more frequent, smaller releases.

That aside there are some things missing from the poll i would have liked included for consideration - mostly a cd/dvd box set of the P & M shows at PP from Jan '16 that kicked off his last tour. And i agree with the frustration of others who already mentioned the inability for each orger to vote for two favorites. But hey it's fun nevertheless to participate in any capacity. So thanks for that!
Have you had your plus sign (+) today?
Reply #181 posted 08/18/17 5:10am

milesb

Release it all please.

Dont worry about catalogueing.

We'll do it all for you, for free! That way we can contribute to Prince's legacy too. Which is something we'd all be proud of

My password is what
Reply #182 posted 08/18/17 5:24am

Loefie

nickog said:

3121 The Movie on Blu-ray and 1 concert from every tour from 1979-2016 on Blu-ray/DVD.


yeahthat only DVD for me please!
Produced, Arranged, Composed & Performed by PRINCE


"Rotterdam, we come to jam!"
Reply #183 posted 08/18/17 6:08am

milesb

If I have to chose 2 only.

Camden 88 aftershow

March 87 warm up show

DVDs please

My password is what
Reply #184 posted 08/18/17 6:30am

OnlyNDaUsa

how about dress shirts with prince buttons... or ties (either subtle symbols or Pasily like the Around The World In a Day LP label (or like the back ground of the UK single for Paisley Park)




With Love, Honor & Respect for all of you...no matter how I argue or disagree my heart is full of love for you all...
Reply #185 posted 08/18/17 8:47am

thedance

milesb said:

Release it all please.

Dont worry about catalogueing.

We'll do it all for you, for free! That way we can contribute to Prince's legacy too. Which is something we'd all be proud of

^ yes let me support please... milesB, what an excellent IDEA! cool cool cool

Let the true funk-soldiers take over, they no it much better than any recordcompany. nod

My idea is, however:

1. THIS Cd-boxset 1978-1988, from For You to Lovesexy, with bonus discs each album
2. THE COMPLETE musicvideo boxset on Dvd / Blu-Ray

Prince 4Ever. heart
Reply #186 posted 08/19/17 3:40am

thisisreece

1) Prince's final show at Atlanta, Live Album. This is a no-brainer really. According to the man himself, Prince was working on releasing this show. And as his last live performance, this show will forever have a mythic status and should be released for its historical significance alone. Not to mention, it's an absolutely stunning performance. Prince at his best.

2) A live DVD of the Paisley Park Piano & Microphone shows. There are plently of live DVDs I would like to see released (Montruex 2009, Montruex 2013 with 3rdeyegirl, First Avenue, any potential Pro-shot concerts from the One Nite Alone Tour), but this one is the most fitting to release first, for the same reasons Prince's final show at Atlanta should be released.

However, my wishes aside, I don't necessarily believe that the estate should be going by what the fans say. Because A) It gives the appearance that they don't know what they are doing, B) It suggests they don't know Prince's career very well (as does many answers in Sharon Nelson's Q & A), and C) Hopefully there's so much in the vaults the fans don't know that our suggestions fall short of their potential.

Regarding studio material, I'd like the vault to be properly inventoried, and sorted into cohesive albums by those with an understanding of his music/career/legacy. Hopefully Prince already has many completed albums in the vaults. I believe the music will be easier to digest and appreaciated more if it is released that way.

Hundalasiliah!
Reply #187 posted 08/20/17 8:28am

maceoparker007

If I were in charge I would give the control to Prince fans. It would work like this...

1) The Estate should firstly catalogue all the material.

2) The Estate should then publish an interactive timeline off all of Princes work. This includes released and unreleased material.

The timeline could be a pretty creative way of displaying all of Princes work (with cool animations and graphics) and probably best way of exploring the eras, myriad of material and extensive back catalogue. Fans will be able to expand information on discography etc. to get an idea of the history and flavour of unreleased stuff in the vault (possibly with raw sound snippets of tracks)

3) The timeline should let fans vote which pieces of work or albums should be released next...the voting process should be transparent.

4) The Estate should then follow through with the consesus with the votes recieved and then provide confirmation which pieces of work will be released next and when.

5) Fans should then be able to purchase the music/videos digitally or in physical format. The physical format should be designed in such a way as you slowly collect all the CDs and stack them along a bookshelf it looks really cool e.g the spines of all the CDs has a hidden message or graphic.

6) For hardcore Prince fans they should offer a subscription service where physical and digital copies are auto delivered as and when material slowly gets released.

Princes timeline could look something like this (am sure there are web designers who could create a cool clickable interactive Prince timeline):

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[Edited 8/20/17 8:29am]

Reply #188 posted 08/20/17 9:58am

govinda

Black is the new black

Crystal Ball 2

"Goodness will guide us if Love is inside us"
Reply #189 posted 08/20/17 11:06am

GustavoRibas

New stuff - Black is the new black

.

Live Stuff - Montreux 2009 or 21 Nights in London DVD

Peace
Gustavo Ribas
Reply #190 posted 08/20/17 5:01pm

HatrinaHaterwitz

I was just reminded of something else that needs to be released soon and I personally think would sell like hotcakes.



A deluxe DVD of "Under The Cherry Moon", complete with the full in COLOR version. Huh? Huh? Yes!

"Style is loving yourself 'til everyone else does too."
You certainly proved that Prince, beyond any doubt.
Reply #191 posted 08/21/17 6:52am

Vannormal

This could be a good idea.

nelcp777 said:

Prince's last P&M performance in Atlanta and the last studio track he recorded.

“My body reeks with lust, I will rape you if i must.”
Reply #192 posted 08/21/17 8:18am

nelcp777

Vannormal said:

This could be a good idea.

nelcp777 said:

Prince's last P&M performance in Atlanta and the last studio track he recorded.

Thanks. I believe that anything tied to the WB era, will be difficult to release especially after Sharon Nelson's resonse in the Interview thread. I think Vault material that is released by the Heirs and Estate, will more than likely be after the WB era that is "free and clear" of any contracts.

Reply #193 posted 08/22/17 3:47am

Rebeljuice

nelcp777 said:

Vannormal said:

This could be a good idea.

Thanks. I believe that anything tied to the WB era, will be difficult to release especially after Sharon Nelson's resonse in the Interview thread. I think Vault material that is released by the Heirs and Estate, will more than likely be after the WB era that is "free and clear" of any contracts.

Even that may not be all free and clear. There were other deals made over the years since WB. Tidal comes to mind.

Reply #194 posted 08/22/17 6:31am

Daveoooo

For audio - a Piano & Microphone concert and (if the roumors were true) Hit & Run Phase 3 or preferably Black is the New Black. sell it as per the current trend of digital or vinyl with digital download.

Or Visual - Montreux (any of them) and a Piano & Microphone concert.

Back cattalogue wise - a Neil Young style archives would be a good thing. To do it fully the releases would be huge and cost a bomb so would not sell partiularly well.

Reply #195 posted 08/22/17 9:15am

nelcp777

Rebeljuice said:

nelcp777 said:

Thanks. I believe that anything tied to the WB era, will be difficult to release especially after Sharon Nelson's resonse in the Interview thread. I think Vault material that is released by the Heirs and Estate, will more than likely be after the WB era that is "free and clear" of any contracts.

Even that may not be all free and clear. There were other deals made over the years since WB. Tidal comes to mind.

Sadly, you are right. I was being too optimistic.

Reply #196 posted 08/22/17 12:13pm

trn22

My two things that I would like to have released or see release rather, would be the First Avenue Benefit Concert from 83 and the Piano and Microphone show/tour from Paisley Park be release on CD/DVD release. All of course on HD.
Reply #197 posted 08/22/17 3:45pm

anoxicblaze

Prince did so much I think he needs a box set for every year.

Prince - 1986 etc. Everything he recorded in 1986 that wasn't released. DVD's of the Parade shows. DVD's of any after shows. Everything he released in 1986.

Reply #198 posted 08/22/17 5:50pm

LRCdancer88

anoxicblaze I think you're right. I think that would be the only way to really organize and capture everything he did.

anoxicblaze said:

Prince did so much I think he needs a box set for every year.

Prince - 1986 etc. Everything he recorded in 1986 that wasn't released. DVD's of the Parade shows. DVD's of any after shows. Everything he released in 1986.

Admission is easy, just say you believe and come to this place in your heart... <3
Reply #199 posted 08/24/17 10:04am

meagemini2

1. Piano and Microphone show (soundboard) I would like to hear voice, music and things said to audience, not someone yelling - the best version possible whether it is the show on 1/21 or on tour.

2. Jazz album he was working on or one in the vault.

Available on all formats, since everyone has their favorite. wink

Thank you Sharon for doing the interview. It was very thoughtful of you to take the time out to answer questions. heart


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Reply #200 posted 08/24/17 10:53am

dereksl

1) Piano & Microphone - Atlanta shows

2) SOTT deluxe

Reply #201 posted 08/24/17 11:51pm

Rebeljuice

dereksl said:

1) Piano & Microphone - Atlanta shows

2) SOTT deluxe

1) Possible

2) Up to WB.

Reply #202 posted 08/25/17 11:02am

2freaky4church1

No no no. Ten cd box set. outtakes.

"2freaky is a complete stud." DJ
"2freaky is very down." 2Elijah.
"2freaky convinced me to join Antifa: OnlyNDA
Reply #203 posted 08/25/17 3:58pm

AlgeriaTouchshreek

G-SPOT!

And temporally surrounding jams.

i wish i'd never kissed your lips, bearded lady
Reply #204 posted 08/26/17 7:49am

udo

1 thing:

A complete listing of all vault tracks, concert recordings, etc (title and short description)

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I guess such a listing does not yet exist so asking for stuff is moot.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill
Reply #205 posted 08/26/17 7:53am

udo

meagemini2 said:

1. Piano and Microphone show (soundboard) I would like to hear voice, music and things said to audience, not someone yelling - the best version possible whether it is the show on 1/21 or on tour.

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Puhlease!

When it comes to (very) recent material them recordings should be easy to find, easy to 'master' and easy to monetize.

So have them release all piano gigs.

If they don't then they will never ever release 50% of the vault.

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All gigs of each tour or whatever they called it.

Same for video.

Same for all songs, per project or per year.

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Don't they really understand that time is money?!

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill
Reply #206 posted 08/28/17 3:50pm

CAL3

I'm going to go with... 1) nothing... and 2) nothing... from the Vault anyway...

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If it was out before in some form (broadcast, VHS, laserdisc, etc) then put it back in print if possible. Detroit '86, Dortmund '88 etc.

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Keep the vault vaulted, that's my vote.

Reply #207 posted 08/29/17 7:21am

udo

CAL3 said:

I'm going to go with... 1) nothing... and 2) nothing... from the Vault anyway...

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Because?

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill
Reply #208 posted 08/29/17 10:45am

CAL3

udo said:

CAL3 said:

I'm going to go with... 1) nothing... and 2) nothing... from the Vault anyway...

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Because?

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Because I don't think unfinished work and/or work not specifically earmarked for release should be released.

Reply #209 posted 08/29/17 7:07pm

jstar69

Hate to sound pessimistic, but I don't think we'll hear anything from the estate anytime soon. Doubt anything (official) will see the light of day before this years out. Hope to be proven wrong though.
Reply #210 posted 08/29/17 7:25pm

Adorecream

1. Sign o the Times remastered and deluxe editions (Unreleased songs like Crucial and Crystal Ball)

2. Parade remaster and again out takes.

Prince - Love4oneanother
Reply #211 posted 08/29/17 10:11pm

udo

CAL3 said:

udo said:

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Because?

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Because I don't think unfinished work and/or work not specifically earmarked for release should be released.

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When is a work finished?

Can't we enjoy the raw beauty of a demo?

What is the background of 'should not' here?

Where is the line of what should? And who decides on that?

After investing quite a bit of resources in this person I'd like to see some stuff...

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill
Reply #212 posted 08/30/17 7:36am

OldFriends4Sale

moderator

I think one of the Piano & Microphone tour shows should be released as a DVD/CD set

and the 1983 Dance Benefit show should be released as a DVD/CD set

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Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
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Reply #213 posted 08/30/17 7:41am

CAL3

udo said:

CAL3 said:

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Because I don't think unfinished work and/or work not specifically earmarked for release should be released.

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When is a work finished?

Can't we enjoy the raw beauty of a demo?

What is the background of 'should not' here?

Where is the line of what should? And who decides on that?

After investing quite a bit of resources in this person I'd like to see some stuff...

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When is a work finished?

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When the creator of the work decides to release it to the public.

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Stuff will come out, hardcore fans will get it - many will overpraise it. Most non-core fans won't bother. That's fine.

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Not sure what you mean by the question "What is the background of 'should not' here?"

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You mean who decides on what should be released? In my own opinion, no one. Just don't release it. It's over. Live with what we have. I'm idealizing, I realize, not putting forth an especially realistic proposition. Vultures pick a corpse clean. There's money to be made. Respect for an artist's legacy be damned.

Reply #214 posted 08/30/17 8:15am

udo

CAL3 said:

udo said:

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When is a work finished?

Can't we enjoy the raw beauty of a demo?

What is the background of 'should not' here?

Where is the line of what should? And who decides on that?

After investing quite a bit of resources in this person I'd like to see some stuff...

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When is a work finished?

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When the creator of the work decides to release it to the public.

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Stuff will come out, hardcore fans will get it - many will overpraise it. Most non-core fans won't bother. That's fine.

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Not sure what you mean by the question "What is the background of 'should not' here?"

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You mean who decides on what should be released? In my own opinion, no one. Just don't release it. It's over. Live with what we have. I'm idealizing, I realize, not putting forth an especially realistic proposition. Vultures pick a corpse clean. There's money to be made. Respect for an artist's legacy be damned.

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Release or not is no benchmark.

Even after release one tinkered with a song or complete albums.

Rave in2?

Songs get updates or reinterpretations as well.

So what does a release say?

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The line that one draws to decide on 'should' versus 'shouldn not' needs definition.

Exactly because there is a vault it needs releasing.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill
Reply #215 posted 08/30/17 8:20am

CAL3

udo said:

CAL3 said:

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When is a work finished?

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When the creator of the work decides to release it to the public.

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Stuff will come out, hardcore fans will get it - many will overpraise it. Most non-core fans won't bother. That's fine.

.

Not sure what you mean by the question "What is the background of 'should not' here?"

.

You mean who decides on what should be released? In my own opinion, no one. Just don't release it. It's over. Live with what we have. I'm idealizing, I realize, not putting forth an especially realistic proposition. Vultures pick a corpse clean. There's money to be made. Respect for an artist's legacy be damned.

.

Release or not is no benchmark.

Even after release one tinkered with a song or complete albums.

Rave in2?

Songs get updates or reinterpretations as well.

So what does a release say?

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The line that one draws to decide on 'should' versus 'shouldn not' needs definition.

Exactly because there is a vault it needs releasing.

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Yes, the artist tinkered with it and released an altered version. Both are released. Both represent the vision of the artist at two different times.

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That's what a release says. It's the artist's vision. At that time. When the artist is gone, it's over.

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Every artist leaves behind unfinished work. Not every artist has a tomb-raiding pack of vultures as fans who begin wringing their hands within months (or weeks... or days...) of their passing, licking their chops at what they seem to consider their birthright.

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It does not "need" releasing. There is money to be made, so obviously there will be releases (and of course already have been). But "need" does not factor into it.

Reply #216 posted 08/30/17 11:57am

kingricefan

When is the last time you purchased (or listened to) a record by Nat King Cole? Or Frank Sinatra? Or Judy Garland? Or Ella Fitzgerald? Or anyone who was considered to be an 'artist' of their time? My point is that these other artists for sure didn't leave behind a vault full of songs for their fans to enjoy and their musical legacy is pretty much dead. Sure, you've got your Elvis and Jimmy Hendrix that continue to sell, but what about all those other 'artists' that don't? Do you not think that the average music fan gets tired of hearing the same songs by singers and wants to move on to others? This is what happens when there's nothing new coming out. Do you really want Prince's musical legacy to die off in ten to twenty years time when there's probably years worth of music hidden away that us 'tomb-raiding pack of vultures' would like to hear and appreciate because we love Prince and the music that he created for us to enjoy? I'm not foaming at the mouth to get my grreedy hands on those songs, but sweet Jesus he left them behind and knew that they would get released and that his 'fam' would enjoy them. He never once said that he didn't want them to come out. Never. If he didn't want those songs to be heard he would have had a huge fire and burned them all like he did when he wanted to rid himself of the reminders of his marriage to Mayte.

CAL3 said:

udo said:

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Release or not is no benchmark.

Even after release one tinkered with a song or complete albums.

Rave in2?

Songs get updates or reinterpretations as well.

So what does a release say?

.

The line that one draws to decide on 'should' versus 'shouldn not' needs definition.

Exactly because there is a vault it needs releasing.

.

Yes, the artist tinkered with it and released an altered version. Both are released. Both represent the vision of the artist at two different times.

.

That's what a release says. It's the artist's vision. At that time. When the artist is gone, it's over.

.

Every artist leaves behind unfinished work. Not every artist has a tomb-raiding pack of vultures as fans who begin wringing their hands within months (or weeks... or days...) of their passing, licking their chops at what they seem to consider their birthright.

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It does not "need" releasing. There is money to be made, so obviously there will be releases (and of course already have been). But "need" does not factor into it.

Reply #217 posted 08/31/17 10:32am

james

Parade Deluxe Edition: Remastered album, b-sides and extended versions disk, outtakes disk, and 1986 Birthday concert on DVD

Piano & Microphone Final Show or Gala: DVD and Blu-ray (I assume it was shot in HD) and CD versions.

Reply #218 posted 08/31/17 10:45am

udo

james said:

Parade Deluxe Edition: Remastered album, b-sides and extended versions disk, outtakes disk, and 1986 Birthday concert on DVD

Piano & Microphone Final Show or Gala: DVD and Blu-ray (I assume it was shot in HD) and CD versions.

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If you allow them record company people to get away with these simple releases it will take decades to even release a simple tour.

If they do not release full tours, full projects, (I expect them to not do this) then they fail at sharing the true genius of Prince.

It is not his albums which we all can know.

It is all the extra stuff that he did (i.e.: vaulted materials) that we know or perhaps do not yet know.

That is what makes him more special.

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Now think of your age.

Then think of your life expectancy.

Then think of the amount of songs, shows, etc in the Vault.

Divide this amount by the remaing years of your life.

This resulting amount probably will be a number higher than one.

Now think of a conservative 10% of this flood of music.

Still the resulting amount will be a number higher than one.

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This means that record companies thinking they can get away with one release (even a small multi disc set like the PR remaster debacle) are utterly insane.

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What will the monetization potential of P's art be in 25 years? 50 years? Beyond that?

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So where is the activity catalogueing, preserving, mastering etc all them things in the vault?

We read nothing about that.

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill
Reply #219 posted 08/31/17 11:04am

June7

Moderator

moderator

[I have submitted the results of the survey conducted by Org member, tbokris, the suggestion by Org member Moonbeam and the front page poll created by me. I'll let them figure out the importance of the data submitted, but I must say - what we've done here should be considered very valuable to both The Estate and Warner Bros.! Usually they have to pay for such detailed marketing research from fans like Prince's. Since this portion of her request has been fulfilled, I'm locking this thread. Thanks for your participation! - lock - June7]
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