pricetag said:

purplethunder3121 said:

pricetag said:

laurarichardson said:

pricetag said:

Your equivalence is irrelevant. I was talking about Jill Jones.

I do not find her rants boring. Is that clear.

That is. Yes. But you bought Susannah into it. You introduced a non-sequitur. That, darlin', definately 'ain't clear.

laurarichardson said:

pricetag said:

Agreed. Presentation is the thing. I can only assume she doesn't want to be heard. Seriously. What's more effective towards getting important people to listen? A calm, reasoned point-of-view OR incoherent trash talk? Isn't it obvious? What a tiresome individual.

Yes, because it is wrong to speak up for yourself. Sitting back and letting people steal credit for your work and you have no idea who she may spoken to prior to her on-line comments.

Interesting how your mind works. Not disagreeing with what I said, simply pushing an agenda neither of us can really know. Whats it's like to be you?

pricetag said:

laurarichardson said:

Cool Website, it keeps going and going as you scroll way down with some articles and photos I never seen before.

NotACleverName said:

laurarichardson said:

rdhull said:

laurarichardson said:

Jill is saying he was a brother thru and thru for some reason this is not the idea you are getting about him from certain people.

I think she thinks there was a whole another side to Prince that some of his associates had no clue about and I think she is correct. We all show the sides we want to show to different people at different times and as African- Americans we are experts at this.

I think she thinks a lot of the black associates and their contributions are getting "whitewashed"

which is another term she used.

The only thing she can do is make her contributions known in fact that is all any of the other associates can do. Why would anyone want their input to be hidden?

Yes and there is also a whole other side that she had no clue about.

We're all still learning.

pricetag said:

rdhull said:

There it is

Christ. Like any of this matters. Now. When I listen to Susan Rogers, I hear someone with expertise relating her experiences. The rest of you tie yourselves up in knots going through whatever boring implications it means. Well, have at it. Just know that you sound very foolish. As for Jill Jones. Let's me honest, she was a hired singer who got lucky and had an album made for her. She should be thankful.[code]

1.It matters to those who were there and heavily involved. And if it were you, you would want things known too.

2. I'm not tied up in a dman thing. Where have youseen me mention this shit time and again/ You can't cause I haven't. It seems you're tied up in knots by you're frustrated post here.

3.Ya mama.

pricetag said:

rdhull said:

There it is

Christ. Like any of this matters. Now. When I listen to Susan Rogers, I hear someone with expertise relating her experiences. The rest of you tie yourselves up in knots going through whatever boring implications it means. Well, have at it. Just know that you sound very foolish. As for Jill Jones. Let's me honest, she was a hired singer who got lucky and had an album made for her. She should be thankful.

Yeah, I like Jill for calling a spade a spade but it was completely uncalled-for to call Susan Rogers an idiot. Anyone with common sense will know it's absurd, I didn't even take it seriously anymore but one would think that a woman her age would finally learn to express her anger (also at Prince!) without attacking others.

I feel for her and also told her so and I know I'm the bad one for even posting here but none of us is in the position to give her the credit she deserves and we all got our own story to deal with. One has to grow up at some point and decide - do I want to believe in karma (but then I also have to take the Susan Rogers' of this world) or do I want to go on attacking people who have nothing to do with my deal but still stick around for support.

I agree she shouldnt call Susan an idiot, but should choose more careful words abouther displeasure when it comes to a person. But I understand her frustration as for decades we've heard Susan's versions and Im sure it has pissed some off probably. I mean in that pulled interview from 2 years ago where Prince disucssed his criticism of her is tantamount/example to that imho.

CatB said:

pricetag said:

rdhull said:

Christ. Like any of this matters. Now. When I listen to Susan Rogers, I hear someone with expertise relating her experiences. The rest of you tie yourselves up in knots going through whatever boring implications it means. Well, have at it. Just know that you sound very foolish. As for Jill Jones. Let's me honest, she was a hired singer who got lucky and had an album made for her. She should be thankful.

Yeah, I like Jill for calling a spade a spade but it was completely uncalled-for to call Susan Rogers an idiot. Anyone with common sense will know it's absurd, I didn't even take it seriously anymore but one would think that a woman her age would finally learn to express her anger (also at Prince!) without attacking others.

I feel for her and also told her so and I know I'm the bad one for even posting here but none of us is in the position to give her the credit she deserves and we all got our own story to deal with. One has to grow up at some point and decide - do I want to believe in karma (but then I also have to take the Susan Rogers' of this world) or do I want to go on attacking people who have nothing to do with my deal but still stick around for support.

rdhull said:

I agree she shouldnt call Susan an idiot, but should choose more careful words abouther displeasure when it comes to a person. But I understand her frustration as for decades we've heard Susan's versions and Im sure it has pissed some off probably.

I mean in that pulled interview from 2 years ago where Prince disucssed his criticism of her is tantamount/example to that imho.

Of Susan, or Jill?

CatB said:

rdhull said:

I agree she shouldnt call Susan an idiot, but should choose more careful words abouther displeasure when it comes to a person. But I understand her frustration as for decades we've heard Susan's versions and Im sure it has pissed some off probably.

I mean in that pulled interview from 2 years ago where Prince disucssed his criticism of her is tantamount/example to that imho.

Of Susan, or Jill?

Of Susan

rdhull said:

pricetag said:

rdhull said:

1.It matters to those who were there and heavily involved. And if it were you, you would want things known too.

2. I'm not tied up in a dman thing. Where have youseen me mention this shit time and again/ You can't cause I haven't. It seems you're tied up in knots by you're frustrated post here.

3.Ya mama.

Regarding your third point. I'm assuming you're not the kind who's ever been complimented for their intellectual veracity...I'm right aren't I?

ah, I get it now.

rdhull said:

CatB said:

Of Susan, or Jill?

Of Susan

Ah, thanks.

rdhull said:

pricetag said:

rdhull said:

pricetag said:

Believe me. You don't get it. That's all I'm prepared to say.

Go sit down somewhere

You still haven't figured it out yet, have you?

pricetag said:

rdhull said:

pricetag said: Go sit down somewhere

You still haven't figured it out yet, have you?

Jill Jones is psychologically unstable. This latest tirade follows on from many more. I wish her the very best, but she is clearly unhinged.

midnightmover said:

rdhull said:

midnightmover said:

Jill Jones is psychologically unstable. This latest tirade follows on from many more. I wish her the very best, but she is clearly unhinged.

Have you met Jill Jones?

No, but I haven't met Donald Trump either and I know that he is an insecure narcissist. He telegraphs it. Similarly, Jill's hysterical ravings betray that she has invested far too much of her self image in Prince. And the truth is that Prince just saw her as another item on the payroll.

She'd be better off just letting it go, or at least just relaxing a little, but she wants everyone to endorse her deranged fantasies. The fact that they will not do so infuriates her.

btw, this has nothing to do with specific vocal parts she may have done on specific tracks. I'm not talking about that.

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midnightmover said:

rdhull said:

midnightmover said: Have you met Jill Jones?

No, but I haven't met Donald Trump either and I know that he is an insecure narcissist. He telegraphs it. Similarly, Jill's hysterical ravings betray that she has invested far too much of her self image in Prince. And the truth is that Prince just saw her as another item on the payroll.

She'd be better off just letting it go, or at least just relaxing a little, but she wants everyone to endorse her deranged fantasies. The fact that they will not do so infuriates her.

btw, this has nothing to do with specific vocal parts she may have done on specific tracks. I'm not talking about that.

[Edited 8/13/17 9:57am]

1. She is not psychologically unstable. I know her. Intermittent posts online do not make someone psychologically unstable. You guys are such laymen.

2.She hasnt invested too much in Prince, shes simply reporting what she knows and her feelings like all of you do about things and situations. And you're assuming a lot with the rest you posted as shes received a degree and has her own business since her days with Prince.

3.People who know nothing of people imvolved or of psychology (beyond an intro textbook) are so quick to label/dismiss someone as 'crazy'..it's crazy. Please stop doing that. It's disresepctful to people as well as stigmatizes those who are mentally ill as well.

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