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Thread started 07/23/17 11:59am

CynicKill

Can Someone Explain To Me Why None Of The Purple Rain Songs Were Nominated For Best Original Song At The Oscars?

He surely would've swept the music catagory had that been the case.

When Doves Cry nor Purple Rain were nominated.

It seems VERY strange!

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Reply #1 posted 07/23/17 12:02pm

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Woman in Red... ha!

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Reply #2 posted 07/23/17 1:05pm

EddieC

Who knows? He did get the last Original Song Score award to have been to date (it could be given today, but with some other name now).

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Reply #3 posted 07/23/17 1:23pm

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It's not VERY strange. Songs used to be required submission for consideration.


Also, if you look, many songs that are up for an Oscar are sometimes the only pop song on a soundtrack or score. (I'm not referencing musicals here either.) And often times that song is just in the credits alone, or it's the theme song/opening credit roll number. That's why certain songs stick out for nominations.

Take Wall-E for example. Only the Peter Gabriel track at the end was nominated. Why not anything else, like "Put On Your Sunday Clothes" (again) or whatever? Because it was the one song written for the movie, so it had a new track. It was the only real pop song from the movie that could stand a consideration.

Purple Rain was a soundtrack, so it stood on its own as a package deal, not chopped up.

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Reply #4 posted 07/23/17 3:11pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

It's not VERY strange. Songs used to be required submission for consideration.


Also, if you look, many songs that are up for an Oscar are sometimes the only pop song on a soundtrack or score. (I'm not referencing musicals here either.) And often times that song is just in the credits alone, or it's the theme song/opening credit roll number. That's why certain songs stick out for nominations.

Take Wall-E for example. Only the Peter Gabriel track at the end was nominated. Why not anything else, like "Put On Your Sunday Clothes" (again) or whatever? Because it was the one song written for the movie, so it had a new track. It was the only real pop song from the movie that could stand a consideration.

Purple Rain was a soundtrack, so it stood on its own as a package deal, not chopped up.

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I understand your points though I don't completely buy it.

I always figured it was some techincality that prevented the songs I've mentioned for not being nominated.

Purple Rain alone should've been a shoo-in.

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Reply #5 posted 07/23/17 3:34pm

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The song has to be written for the movie, and then the members of the music branch of the academy, which are people that have previously won oscars, vote using a sliding scale on the songs to be nominated, any song that garners a certain score is then nominated. It is not against the academy rules for more than one song from a movie to be nominated, but it has only happened a few times...the songwriters, not the performers win the award...
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Reply #6 posted 07/23/17 6:06pm

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EddieC said:

Who knows? He did get the last Original Song Score award to have been to date (it could be given today, but with some other name now).

I never understood what that really meant. Was it the incidental music? THe album?

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Reply #7 posted 07/23/17 6:38pm

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GaryMF said:

EddieC said:

Who knows? He did get the last Original Song Score award to have been to date (it could be given today, but with some other name now).

I never understood what that really meant. Was it the incidental music? THe album?

It's pretty much a hold over from when they used to make a lot of original Hollywood musicals (the current name for the award, if they gave it, would be "Best Original Musical"--looking at the definition for the thing, at least 5 songs by the same writer or team of writers written for the film that are "substantively rendered, clearly audible, intelligible, and must further the story." So not a soundtrack consisting of songs played in the background written by a bunch of different artists. And they don't really make movies that have those sorts of structures much anymore--I mean, they've done some musicals recently, but they're adaptations or use mostly already existent songs. And "the field of eligible submissions [has to be] determined to be of sufficient quantity and quality to justify award competition." And that just doesn't happen in the current market.

I'd guess it was mainly the songs from the album itself, though I suppose it would also include the other Prince composed tracks as well if we wanted to say it did (I'm not sure whether they recognized that fact at the time, but the official Prince songs were enough to reach the required 5 or more).

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