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Thread started 07/04/17 8:12am

TrevorAyer

wHaT iS yOuR gO 2 pUrPlE rAiN sOuRcE?

Now that the remaster has sunk in .. what version will you listen to when you want to listen to just the classic purple rain album?

Will it be the new remaster, an older remaster, a bootleg remaster, your own homemade remaster, the old original non remastered, the vinyl remaster, the vinyl non remastered?

Which do you consider the best version? Which will you likely never put on your stereo again?

For me its the purple tinted cassette that came out last year.

(i feel like this post needs some ketchup to go with all this remastered)

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Reply #1 posted 07/04/17 8:32am

Doozer

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My original PR CD purchased in 1988 to upgrade my orginal cassette is the one I will continue to go back to.

The remastered album by Welton is one I will never revisit. Prince may have directed it, oversaw it, and approved it, but it adds nothing to the original that I can't do myself. No wonder WB didn't want to release it as a single album with no bonus material.

It seems that the Rhino 2011 vinyl remaster is the best mix by many accounts, but the original CD is great to my ears.
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Reply #2 posted 07/04/17 8:34am

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The one I bought years ago.

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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Reply #3 posted 07/04/17 9:14am

OrangeClock

when listening to it on spotify, probably the 2015 remaster

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when listening to it on vinyl, probably the original 1984 pressing that my mom bought in '84

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considering getting the 2011 vinyl remaster though

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Reply #4 posted 07/04/17 9:44am

NorthC

You know what... I've heard Purple Rain sooooo many times that I stopped listening to it years ago. That's the problem with this album: it's so good and it has so many hits and he played those hits so often in concert... (and you heard them on the radio so often) that I just had an overdose. I only bought the Deluxe edition for the outtakes and the DVD, but the album itself... If I ever want to hear it again, I'll just put on my old LP. Not only because vinyl has the best sound, but also because of the memories and the emotions that go with it... Some of my old LPs, just like books and comic strips... they're just part of me... I don't have that emotional attachment with CDs or DVDs... Let alone downloads or streaming... I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels like this... Vinyl is making a comeback for a reason...
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Reply #5 posted 07/04/17 9:58am

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Out of all the copies I own, my go-to is the original LP or my rip of it. Mind you, the only versions I haven't heard are the new vinyl remasters (neither the 2017 one nor the 2011 Rhino reissue).

I won't play that atrocious Paisley remaster ever again, though.
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Reply #6 posted 07/04/17 10:07am

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If I'm at home, the 1984 or 2009 vinyl re-issue. If I'm in the car, a rip of the original CD with the volume adjusted in iTunes.

Josh Welton can suck it.

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Reply #7 posted 07/04/17 12:03pm

Farfunknugin

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I was all for prince empowering musicians to take a solo (if it was a short one) but empowering someone with little experience an dletting them mix such a landmark album? Dudes mixes are hard to listen to, their not worthy of being released period end of story.

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Reply #8 posted 07/04/17 12:06pm

RJOrion

whichever one is convenient to listen to at the time...doesnt matter
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Reply #9 posted 07/04/17 12:44pm

teiemka

My original 1984 LP which is all worn out at the end of Darling Nikki from when I used to take the belt off the turntable and spin it backwards to show my friends

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That the Lord is coming soon, coming, coming soon."

The devil made me do it evillol
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Reply #10 posted 07/04/17 1:20pm

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The "Homemade Deluxe Version" has been flac'd from a Rhino Vinyl remaster, I think from around 2004/2005. Rhino is a subdivision of Warner Bros., and they usually do a really great job at remastering classics.

Here's a simple test :when the drums start to kick in in "Let's Go Crazy", there are actually 3 different snare sounds playing in alternation, and they're set on a slightly different amplitude/volume each. So this shit is really pumping, like a frantic heartbeat or something. It comes and goes. It's a breathing pulse.

The way Josh brickwalled it, it just sounds like a single snare with variations in the timbre, and every beat is at the same volume. So there it is, not even a minute through the album, Josh's remaster becomes worthless.

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No Child's a failure
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Reply #11 posted 07/04/17 6:59pm

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Which ever version comes up when I grab my iPhone and tell my male Siri to run MY personal Purple Cloud. geekheadbang

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Reply #12 posted 07/04/17 11:31pm

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My original vinyl from '84 if i'm at home. Otherwise the original CD i bought back when it came out and eventually ripped it to put on my ipod.
It's a hurtful place, the world, in and of itself. We don't need to add to it. We all need one another. ~ PRN
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Reply #13 posted 07/05/17 12:07am

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Vinyl rip of the Rhino release.
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Reply #14 posted 07/05/17 12:34am

ForceofNature

The HD Tracks version downconverted to CD quality for use on my iPod, the mastering of that is the best digital version in my opinion

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Reply #15 posted 07/05/17 1:01am

ian

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Out and about in the car, an MP3 rip of the original CD. At home, either the original version on Apple Music, or the Rhino vinyl remaster. I don't play my 1984 vinyl copy so often, trying not to wear it out.

I can't think of any reason to listen to the Deluxe remaster.

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Reply #16 posted 07/05/17 3:03am

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ian said:

Out and about in the car, an MP3 rip of the original CD. At home, either the original version on Apple Music, or the Rhino vinyl remaster. I don't play my 1984 vinyl copy so often, trying not to wear it out.

I can't think of any reason to listen to the Deluxe remaster.

There is ONE REASON..We can FUCK

Go on..you know you want to..t0

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Reply #17 posted 07/05/17 3:03am

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ian said:

Out and about in the car, an MP3 rip of the original CD. At home, either the original version on Apple Music, or the Rhino vinyl remaster. I don't play my 1984 vinyl copy so often, trying not to wear it out.

I can't think of any reason to listen to the Deluxe remaster.

There is ONE REASON..We can FUCK

Go on..you know you want to.

“LOVE IS THE MASTERPLAN”
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Reply #18 posted 07/05/17 4:03am

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There is a good discussion about the different releases (prior to the current one) on Steve Hoffman's forums.

Here's a quote:

The Rhino Europe 081227-99149-4 is mastered by Kevin Gray (it seems to have KG @ATM in the dead way, though it's faint), and is said to be pressed at Optimal in Germany. It's nice and flat and has the colour insert poster/lyric sheet with the disc in a separate poly lined sleeve (nice touch). And it's sealed of course.

I think I just prefer my original purple Bernie Grundman Alsdorf (Germany) pressing. They do sound different to me.



I'm very glad Germany pressings are often quoted on SH, because we europeans had the chance to get incredible dynamic vynil releases.
Vynil mastering is an audio sub-process of its own, the low frequencies are difficult to get just right, and Lawd knows how much bass is pivotal in Prince's work. Almost everything that came out from the eighties WEA Germany factory sounds like Technicolor 3D Cinemascope with odorama.

If you never experienced the dirt and sleaziness of "Shockadelica" on the original WEA Germany pressing, you miss half of the experience, trust me. And that's just one example.

I understand the convienence, but why some of you who have the alternative keep on listening to the PR CD (or sourced from) is beyond me... disbelief

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The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
No Child's a failure
Until the Blue Sailboat sails him away from his dreams
Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose
Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams
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Reply #19 posted 07/05/17 4:23am

mdmeridius

I listen to the remaster.
Must be something in the water we drink.
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Reply #20 posted 07/05/17 4:41am

luvgirl

I'll listen to the Purple Rain Deluxe re-master. I like the way it sounds. Now, if I still had the first Pruple Rain album I bought, that would be different due to sentimental reasons, but I don't, so re-master it is...
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Reply #21 posted 07/05/17 10:06am

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Lovejunky said:

ian said:

Out and about in the car, an MP3 rip of the original CD. At home, either the original version on Apple Music, or the Rhino vinyl remaster. I don't play my 1984 vinyl copy so often, trying not to wear it out.

I can't think of any reason to listen to the Deluxe remaster.

There is ONE REASON..We can FUCK

Go on..you know you want to.


We're talking about which version of the original album.

Duh, we'll listen to discs 2 and 3 of the deluxe. They were mastered by Bernie Grundman - not Josh, the hack.

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Reply #22 posted 07/05/17 10:56am

BanishedBrian

I'll listen to anything besides the brickwalled remaster CD.

No Candy 4 Me
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Reply #23 posted 07/05/17 11:35am

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BanishedBrian said:

I'll listen to anything besides the brickwalled remaster CD.

Thank u. I'm glad I'm not the only one!

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Reply #24 posted 07/05/17 3:02pm

ian

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Lovejunky said:

ian said:

Out and about in the car, an MP3 rip of the original CD. At home, either the original version on Apple Music, or the Rhino vinyl remaster. I don't play my 1984 vinyl copy so often, trying not to wear it out.

I can't think of any reason to listen to the Deluxe remaster.

There is ONE REASON..We can FUCK

Go on..you know you want to.

Ha, I was just talking about the remaster. Disc 2 is a different story smile

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Reply #25 posted 07/05/17 4:07pm

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luvgirl said:

I'll listen to the Purple Rain Deluxe re-master. I like the way it sounds. Now, if I still had the first Pruple Rain album I bought, that would be different due to sentimental reasons, but I don't, so re-master it is...

Co-sign. My original CD is barely audible in my car. I have to turn the sound all the way up until it can't go any higher, and I STILL can't really enjoy it.

I'm no audiophile, so I don't hear the stuff with the 2015 remaster that you hear. It sounds fine to me. And, most importantly, it bumps in the car.

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