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Love this interview Will.i.am did on the Ellen show (not sure on the date). He's so funny, not to mention talented! I love the way he tells the story of how Prince played the bass in Michaels face! I get a good laugh every time I watch this!

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Love this interview Will.i.am did on the Ellen show (not sure on the date). He's so funny, not to mention talented! I love the way he tells the story of how Prince played the bass in Michaels face! I get a good laugh every time I watch this!

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https://www.youtube.com/w...95ilavW0L8

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it's an expression of love

klick2me said:

cloveringold85 said:

Rainbow1 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Love this interview Will.i.am did on the Ellen show (not sure on the date). He's so funny, not to mention talented! I love the way he tells the story of how Prince played the bass in Michaels face! I get a good laugh every time I watch this!

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I love this interview i watched it maybe 20 times just because I can see prince totally putting on his diva ness and take the opportunity to show MJ (which P considered his rival) a skill set the MJ didn't have. I also read somewhere that when Prince heard MJ passed away, he was in the middle of rehearsals at Paisley and sent everyone home and locked himself in his room for 3 days. I also saw on a YouTube that after MJ's death during a concert he danced to part of MJ's song "can't get enough" as a shout out to MJ. Prince was a very very complicated man, but deep down I think he respected MJ and even admired his uniqueness and originality.

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It's a great interview and it makes me laugh every time I watch it. I agree; I can definitely see Prince doing something like this. He had a great sense of humor; and was probably trying to show MJ up by "playing the bass in yo' face!" LMAO!!

Yes, I heard how Prince was very upset when MJ passed. Both MJ and Prince's career was skyrocketing at the same time, so they were rivals, but I think they always had a love and respect for one another. I could see Prince distancing himself from MJ as to not take away his spotlight, if you know what I mean. That's how Prince was; very respectful of other artists. I don't think he ever disrespected another artists and even if he didn't like another artists, he would be very polite about it, LOL

He was just showing Jacko the device that Louis Johnson used for Billie Jean since he couldn't play an instrument

That's classic oldschool asshole Prince!

Will.i.am never tells this story the same way twice and as far as I'm aware, nobody has ever corroborated it either.

NouveauDance said:

That's classic oldschool asshole Prince!

Marrk said:

Will.i.am never tells this story the same way twice and as far as I'm aware, nobody has ever corroborated it either.

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Are you saying it never happened?

cloveringold85 said:

Rainbow1 said:

cloveringold85 said: I love this interview i watched it maybe 20 times just because I can see prince totally putting on his diva ness and take the opportunity to show MJ (which P considered his rival) a skill set the MJ didn't have. I also read somewhere that when Prince heard MJ passed away, he was in the middle of rehearsals at Paisley and sent everyone home and locked himself in his room for 3 days. I also saw on a YouTube that after MJ's death during a concert he danced to part of MJ's song "can't get enough" as a shout out to MJ. Prince was a very very complicated man, but deep down I think he respected MJ and even admired his uniqueness and originality.

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It's a great interview and it makes me laugh every time I watch it. I agree; I can definitely see Prince doing something like this. He had a great sense of humor; and was probably trying to show MJ up by "playing the bass in yo' face!" LMAO!!

Yes, I heard how Prince was very upset when MJ passed. Both MJ and Prince's career was skyrocketing at the same time, so they were rivals, but I think they always had a love and respect for one another. I could see Prince distancing himself from MJ as to not take away his spotlight, if you know what I mean. That's how Prince was; very respectful of other artists. I don't think he ever disrespected another artists and even if he didn't like another artists, he would be very polite about it, LOL

With what I saw at shows he would take his swings here and there at MJ= Not Very Polite...add in the Chris Rock interview never led me to believe he was in awe of MJ.....the rivals question was brought up also his reply tells all.

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klick2me said:

Why did Prince do that? Great story but odd move.

. He was showing up MJ, who sang and danced only.

False information. MJ wrote, produced, choreographed (his dancing & shows), directed and played the drums (his first instrument was the bongas). Even if you remove the playing of instruments, it doesn't remove that he was a genius - that our beloved Prince, loved and respected. Michael's 70s music was ON REPEAT in Paisley Park. Ask anyone who went to see Prince in Jan 2016... Prince really respected Michael and acknowledged his genius, only bitter fans want to discredit the man. Also, Prince loved to tease and to me that's what he was doing to MJ, it was indeed odd but very much Prince.

Simply put, Prince had a robust competitive streak and no small measure of egotism.

I remember a MJ show where the tape/ recording broke...Prince jumped on that at his shows....No Memorex here we do things live etc"....and yes he pointed out & referred 100% to MJ.

just you tube: chris rock prince michael jackson

straight from Prince about MJ

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GoldDolphin said:

laytonian said:

klick2me said: . He was showing up MJ, who sang and danced only.

False information. MJ wrote, produced, choreographed (his dancing & shows), directed and played the drums (his first instrument was the bongas). Even if you remove the playing of instruments, it doesn't remove that he was a genius - that our beloved Prince, loved and respected. Michael's 70s music was ON REPEAT in Paisley Park. Ask anyone who went to see Prince in Jan 2016... Prince really respected Michael and acknowledged his genius, only bitter fans want to discredit the man. Also, Prince loved to tease and to me that's what he was doing to MJ, it was indeed odd but very much Prince.

I wish I could "like" this comment.

Marrk said:

Will.i.am never tells this story the same way twice and as far as I'm aware, nobody has ever corroborated it either.

Chris Tucker said it happened in one of his stand-ups.

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MJ was without a doubt an impressive figure for Prince the teen-ager.
Now I can't speak for afro-americans, but it seems to me The Jacksons 5 represented a step further into social ascension for black americans. Michael's qualities as a vocalist are indisputable.

But here's the catch: without Quincy Jones, Bruce Swieden, and the Toto Band (or even better, the fabulous session musicians that recorded "Off The Wall" the album), I doubt Michael would have gone very far in the cross-over area. That's not to diminish his fierce will (leaving Motown for Epic, wanting to sell more copies of "Bad" than "Thriller") and the craft of his art.

But Prince? He's way beyond. He doesn't have this "even-my-grandma-likes-it" voice which appeals universally, and that's the point. Michael wanted to be associated with Disney.
Prince is for grown-ups.

If this ever happened, it was probably a way for Prince to say to Michael: "When will you grow up? That's how a man does it!". But the pinnacle of manhood for Michael was to put on a leather jacket with tons of useless metal on it, and do a choreography in some subway station. Yeah, so macho.
So there can't be a real rivalry between a manchild, and a guy who goes to bed with Diamonds AND Pearls in a one-night stand. And that is the cleanest Prince. What I wouldn't give to see Michael's face in front of a 1980 Dirty Mind Tour show.

And last but not least, Michael sucks at ping-pong.
Prince was kind enough not to humiliate him with a game of Basketball.

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bonatoc said:

MJ was without a doubt an impressive figure for Prince the teen-ager.
Now I can't speak for afro-americans, but it seems to me The Jacksons 5 represented a step further into social ascension for black americans. Michael's qualities as a vocalist are indisputable.

But here's the catch: without Quincy Jones, Bruce Swieden, and the Toto Band (or even better, the fabulous session musicians that recorded "Off The Wall" the album), I doubt Michael would have gone very far in the cross-over area. That's not to diminish his fierce will (leaving Motown for Epic, wanting to sell more copies of "Bad" than "Thriller") and the craft of his art.

But Prince? He's way beyond. He doesn't have this "even-my-grandma-likes-it" voice which appeals universally, and that's the point. Michael wanted to be associated with Disney.
Prince is for grown-ups.

If this ever happened, it was probably a way for Prince to say to Michael: "When will you grow up? That's how a man does it!". But the pinnacle of manhood for Michael was to put on a leather jacket with tons of useless metal on it, and do a choreography in some subway station. Yeah, so macho.
So there can't be a real rivalry between a manchild, and a guy who goes to bed with Diamonds AND Pearls in a one-night stand. And that is the cleanest Prince. What I wouldn't give to see Michael's face in front of a 1980 Dirty Mind Tour show.

And last but not least, Michael sucks at ping-pong.
Prince was kind enough not to humiliate him with a game of Basketball.

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Bollocks.

Prince was never and never will be as popular, or as beloved as Michael Jackson. You can claim talent until the cows come home, it will always be the case. The general public don't hold Prince in as high regard as Michael Jackson.

I thought we were here because we're not the "general public".
That's what I said. Michael aimed for Disney.
Prince aimed for Tex Avery.

Now who's the real Genius? The one who produced animation suitable for children, or the maverick who turned the whole concept inside out, created an inimitable style, and brought sex to the table?
Ain't nothin' revolutionary about Michael Jackson the persona, except the Christ-like poses.
Oh, look, I'v become the world's first ubiquitous superstar, poor me, boo-hoo.
I need the military when I do jogging. Everyone faints at my live shows.
I mean come on, now the dust has settled, isn't this childish, paranoid and really egomaniac?
To the point where Prince looks like your average Joe next to Michael.

Oh lord it had to happen didn't it? The tiniest whiff of criticism and they all come crawling out. Look, 99% of the people on this board are MJ fans, but with that said:

GET BACK IN YOUR BOX MICHAEL JACKSON FANS.

bonatoc said:

I thought we were here because we're not the "general public".
That's what I said. Michael aimed for Disney.
Prince aimed for Tex Avery.

Now who's the real Genius? The one who produced animation suitable for children, or the maverick who turned the whole concept inside out, created an inimitable style, and brought sex to the table?
Ain't nothin' revolutionary about Michael Jackson the persona, except the Christ-like poses.
Oh, look, I'v become the world's first ubiquitous superstar, poor me, boo-hoo.
I need the military when I do jogging. Everyone faints at my live shows.
I mean come on, now the dust has settled, isn't this childish, paranoid and really egomaniac?
To the point where Prince looks like your average Joe next to Michael.

Of course having said all that, this is all coming from a real place of bad faith bonatac, both Prince and MJ have very imitable styles when it comes to broad stereotyping and there was plenty of sex in MJ 1979-1984-ish, tainted (unfairly perhaps, sure) as it may be these days.

Besides, both to the general public and to critics both of them fell off the wagon after 1991 or so. While on here we all appreciate Prince's 90's and beyond genius, neither his sales nor his critical reputation outside of prince.org are exactly consistently glowing. You're as likely to find critical praise of Rave or the Rainbow Children as you are Invincible. Prince at least has 8000 more albums though.

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This was funny and cute

But I kinda have a different take...

I actually think Prince was trying to indirectly give Michael a shout out with the bass playing. Prince usually shouts out all the celebrities that attends his show. However, MJ is obviously not like any celebrity AND Prince knew that. Prince didn't want to shout Michael out because he didn't want to draw unnessesary attention to him so instead he played guitar in his face. I think this was his way of saying (hey welcome and thanks for coming out to my show, I see you and I appreciate that)

Michael probably took it the wrong way because Prince has a history of being a asshole BUT I actually think Prince wasn't trying to be in this incident.

GoldDolphin said:

laytonian said:

klick2me said: . He was showing up MJ, who sang and danced only.

False information. MJ wrote, produced, choreographed (his dancing & shows), directed and played the drums (his first instrument was the bongas). Even if you remove the playing of instruments, it doesn't remove that he was a genius - that our beloved Prince, loved and respected. Michael's 70s music was ON REPEAT in Paisley Park. Ask anyone who went to see Prince in Jan 2016... Prince really respected Michael and acknowledged his genius, only bitter fans want to discredit the man. Also, Prince loved to tease and to me that's what he was doing to MJ, it was indeed odd but very much Prince.

I think he was doing that too and I also think he was giving him a shout out (in his Prince way). I don't think he was trying to be malicious or arrogant.

scorp84 said:

Why do some people always have to turn fun MJ/Prince threads into shit? Lmao In summary: Chris, Will & MJ had a guys night out in Vegas, took in a Prince show and had a hell of a time. It did happen. Chris AND Will have spoken proudly of that moment on several occasions. Michael loved Prince. Prince loved Michael. They're both laughing at all of us right now. None of this "Vs" shit matters. It doesn't fucking matter who did/didn't write "Thriller" or who tuned the snare on "Off The Wall". At the end of it all, every song MJ laid his vocals on became HIS song. Doesn't matter if Andre, Prince or their cousin's sister's baby daddy wrote "Do Me, Baby" back in '79. It's Prince's song. Now have at it.

BEST POST IN THIS THREAD!

For the record, my first heavy rotation record was Thriller. I spent half of my twelfth year evenings with my walkman and an original CrO2 K7 release. Michael will always be Michael.

I was just trying to imagine what went up in Prince's mind at the moment.
I don't think we can expect what we would call "normal" reactions on stage from these two folks, where you have to fully embody the persona you built, in order to perform.
Meaning this Prince show-off did not necessarily reflect Prince's feelings about Michael (cf. the kind words about Michael during the press conference where Prince announced he was now Prince-formerly-known-as-the-artist-formerly-known-as-Prince).

And I think Prince was the one who was boasting about it the most, because it's fair to say that Prince had to overcome more challenges to reach global superstardom, whereas Michael's pop royalty was already acquired since the childhood (again, not diminishing Michael's subsequent own achievements).

But it also could be a problem of interpretation of the gesture: what if Prince was genuinely dedicating a piece of funk to Michael without any afterthoughts, and it's only Michael's paranoia mixed with will.i.am's mischevious judgment that turned this bass slap into an ass slap?

Will.I.Am told the story in another interview as well.

As far as I remember he told there, that he had said to Michael afterwards something like:

"Well , that was just Prince's way of saying Hello".

I like that!