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Reply #840 posted 08/08/17 7:24pm

morningsong

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Bodhitheblackdog said:

1Sasha said:

I think what Bodhi is saying is that Prince, in his position as a very wealthy man with unlimited connections in the world of finance and entertainment, could have long ago structured his estate to do exactly what he wanted it to do after he passed away. He didn't do that and so we today see the mess this failure has wrought. [Edited 8/8/17 17:58pm]

Yes, 1Sasha, thank you for expressing that thought way more eloquently than I did,,,bet YOU could re-write the Kama Sutra in one-third as many words. biggrin In response to those who encourage rock throwing at any and all wealthy people, don't know about their estate planning but I am throwing rocks at the MYTH so popular here that Prince was a great charitable huminaritian. It's been 20 years since he lost his son. Where's the children's hospital he thought of building on all those empty acres across from PP? Think about how many children could have been helped since Amiir passed. I would have quipped that the man was 'all yack and no shack'...but sadly, I think he was all shack and great music wrapped up in a gorgeous and dainty package of deception and mind games.

Sounds like you're mad he had a penny left to me. Because despite whatever he gave, you brought up because he still had money he didn't give enough. So by that token any one who has hundreds of millions of dollars has to be as equally pathetic, that's the word you used. Yet I don't see you downing whatever those people have done, and I don't understand why. You obviously aren't a champion of rich people giving all they have so why are you making this grandstand about this one person?

As far as hopitals go, many get shutdown every day. I'm sure there are cases in your city of the same thing. It's happened in mine. Building one doesn't mean it'll last. There's more to running one then money.

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Reply #841 posted 08/08/17 7:25pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

morningsong said:

As of what date? Because it says as of July, 3, 2017.

California Secretary of State website.

https://businesssearch.so...CBS/Detail

Error.

You are not allowed to use or change the URL in that manner.

I'll look it up when I get home.

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Reply #842 posted 08/08/17 7:29pm

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Reply #843 posted 08/08/17 7:30pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

morningsong said:

As of what date? Because it says as of July, 3, 2017.

California Secretary of State website.

https://businesssearch.so...CBS/Detail

The link above will take you to a search button.

I just checked and the link to Gamillah time out.

[Edited 8/8/17 19:35pm]

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Reply #844 posted 08/08/17 7:31pm

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morningsong said:

Known Addresses for Gamillah Incorporated

I dont know what site you are using but I am looking at the official Secretary of the State of California's website who has the official information. You can actually look at the documents relating to Gamillah on this site.

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Reply #845 posted 08/08/17 7:45pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

morningsong said:

Known Addresses for Gamillah Incorporated

I dont know what site you are using but I am looking at the official Secretary of the State of California's website who has the official information. You can actually look at the documents relating to Gamillah on this site.

What I got from the California site. You're right it's not filed at the Auborn address.

C2995892 GAMILLAH INCORPORATED

Registration Date:
05/03/2007
Jurisdiction:
MINNESOTA
Entity Type:
FOREIGN STOCK
Status:
SOS/FTB FORFEITED
Agent for Service of Process:
MANUELA TESTOLINI
5358 OAK PARK AVE
ENCINO CA 91316
Entity Address:
7760 FRANCE AVE S STE 1100
MINNEAPOLIS MN 55435
Entity Mailing Address:
7760 FRANCE AVE S STE 1100
MINNEAPOLIS MN 55435

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Reply #846 posted 08/08/17 7:52pm

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morningsong said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

I dont know what site you are using but I am looking at the official Secretary of the State of California's website who has the official information. You can actually look at the documents relating to Gamillah on this site.

What I got from the California site. You're right it's not filed at the Auborn address.

C2995892 GAMILLAH INCORPORATED

Registration Date:
05/03/2007
Jurisdiction:
MINNESOTA
Entity Type:
FOREIGN STOCK
Status:
SOS/FTB FORFEITED
Agent for Service of Process:
MANUELA TESTOLINI
5358 OAK PARK AVE
ENCINO CA 91316
Entity Address:
7760 FRANCE AVE S STE 1100
MINNEAPOLIS MN 55435
Entity Mailing Address:
7760 FRANCE AVE S STE 1100
MINNEAPOLIS MN 55435

Also, above you will see "SOS/FTB FORFEITED" which means the Franchise Tax Board suspended or forfeited the corporation because it did not file its franchise tax returns.

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Reply #847 posted 08/08/17 7:56pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

morningsong said:

What I got from the California site. You're right it's not filed at the Auborn address.

C2995892 GAMILLAH INCORPORATED

Registration Date:
05/03/2007
Jurisdiction:
MINNESOTA
Entity Type:
FOREIGN STOCK
Status:
SOS/FTB FORFEITED
Agent for Service of Process:
MANUELA TESTOLINI
5358 OAK PARK AVE
ENCINO CA 91316
Entity Address:
7760 FRANCE AVE S STE 1100
MINNEAPOLIS MN 55435
Entity Mailing Address:
7760 FRANCE AVE S STE 1100
MINNEAPOLIS MN 55435

Also, above you will see "SOS/FTB FORFEITED" which means the Franchise Tax Board suspended or forfeited the corporation because it did not file its franchise tax returns.

That's fair enough.

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Reply #848 posted 08/08/17 8:14pm

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Business Type
Business Corporation (Domestic)
MN Statute
302A
File Number
1044498-2
Home Jurisdiction
Minnesota
Filing Date
09/16/2004
Status
Active / In Good Standing
Renewal Due Date
12/31/2018
Registered Office Address
60 S 6th Str #2700
Mpls, MN 55402
USA
Number of Shares
10,000
Registered Agent(s)
(Optional) None provided
Chief Executive Officer
Manuela Testolini
c/o Best & Flanagan LLP (DGS)
60 South 6th St #2700
Minneapolis, MN 55402
USA
Principal Executive Office Address
60 South 6th St #2700
c/o Best & Flanagan LLP (DGS)
Minneapolis, MN 55402–5435
USA
https://mblsportal.sos.st...BeginsWith
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Reply #849 posted 08/08/17 8:38pm

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Yes, there is a document filed in California showing it was also a Corp in Minnesota.

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Reply #850 posted 08/08/17 8:43pm

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There might be a warehouse full of M2 candles at PP!

lol lol lol

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Reply #851 posted 08/08/17 9:08pm

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Purplestar88 said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

So Prince gives M2 a million bucks for her ‘charity’ and she disperses it in dribs and drabs (5/10K ) to really worthy causes, then drops 50K on her lover (aka Smitty Boykins) and everyone is supposed to be impressed with how charitable they are? It wasn’t ‘charity’ that was driving him, it was the ability (actually promised through a love song ‘I’ll give you power”) to bestow power…and then take it away at will. Control, yet again. Despite his many charitable contributions, there were so many better ways to help people with the money he earned than letting lawyers, dodgy relatives and the tax man haul it away. If he knew he wasn’t going to need it in heaven, why didn’t he see the need around him? It’s a $200-300 MILLION DOLLAR PLUS, PLUS estate people…a $5,000 contribution to a worthwhile cause is pathetic. To those who say, it’s none of our business or he was really planning to do something meaningful and ran out of time …I say bullshit. He was an adult, a successful businessman and supposedly a man of God who knew he WAS his brothers’ keeper. He blew it.

Are you serious? neutral Wow! You don't know what your talking about.


This bs is typical for this poster. Go back through past posts, he/she continually slams Prince stirthepot With a fan like that, who needs enemies. censored disbelief

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Reply #852 posted 08/09/17 2:04am

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Bodhitheblackdog said:

So Prince gives M2 a million bucks for her ‘charity’ and she disperses it in dribs and drabs (5/10K ) to really worthy causes, then drops 50K on her lover (aka Smitty Boykins) and everyone is supposed to be impressed with how charitable they are? It wasn’t ‘charity’ that was driving him, it was the ability (actually promised through a love song ‘I’ll give you power”) to bestow power…and then take it away at will. Control, yet again. Despite his many charitable contributions, there were so many better ways to help people with the money he earned than letting lawyers, dodgy relatives and the tax man haul it away. If he knew he wasn’t going to need it in heaven, why didn’t he see the need around him? It’s a $200-300 MILLION DOLLAR PLUS, PLUS estate people…a $5,000 contribution to a worthwhile cause is pathetic. To those who say, it’s none of our business or he was really planning to do something meaningful and ran out of time …I say bullshit. He was an adult, a successful businessman and supposedly a man of God who knew he WAS his brothers’ keeper. He blew it.

Gold Star for being the most judge MENTAL person on the org !

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Reply #853 posted 08/09/17 4:06am

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

There might be a warehouse full of M2 candles at PP!

lol lol lol

Do you think this has anything to do with the documents the divorce lawyers gave to the Probate court?

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Reply #854 posted 08/09/17 4:43am

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Lovejunky said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

So Prince gives M2 a million bucks for her ‘charity’ and she disperses it in dribs and drabs (5/10K ) to really worthy causes, then drops 50K on her lover (aka Smitty Boykins) and everyone is supposed to be impressed with how charitable they are? It wasn’t ‘charity’ that was driving him, it was the ability (actually promised through a love song ‘I’ll give you power”) to bestow power…and then take it away at will. Control, yet again. Despite his many charitable contributions, there were so many better ways to help people with the money he earned than letting lawyers, dodgy relatives and the tax man haul it away. If he knew he wasn’t going to need it in heaven, why didn’t he see the need around him? It’s a $200-300 MILLION DOLLAR PLUS, PLUS estate people…a $5,000 contribution to a worthwhile cause is pathetic. To those who say, it’s none of our business or he was really planning to do something meaningful and ran out of time …I say bullshit. He was an adult, a successful businessman and supposedly a man of God who knew he WAS his brothers’ keeper. He blew it.

Gold Star for being the most judge MENTAL person on the org !

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Reply #855 posted 08/09/17 7:36am

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Mumio said:

Purplestar88 said:

Are you serious? neutral Wow! You don't know what your talking about.


This bs is typical for this poster. Go back through past posts, he/she continually slams Prince stirthepot With a fan like that, who needs enemies. censored disbelief

Mumbo,
Only the poster can tell us what is in their mind, but I have to say sometimes the urge/idea is simply to add balance. We have one poster who responds to EVERY post defending Prince blindly, makes things up, puts forth her own theories as fact and distorts the truth, over and over and over….
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So, speaking for myself, I sometimes feel the the urge to add balance, and in doing so it is easy to come across negative when that is not my intention at all.
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Let’s give the poster the benefit of the doubt to expand upon the idea and instead of being critical, this is a discussion board so let’s discuss. What do you think?
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Peace,
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Reply #856 posted 08/09/17 7:39am

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Yes, there is a document filed in California showing it was also a Corp in Minnesota.

So wait a minute, is this the candle business (not charity) and her 'In a Perfect World' the charity she runs? (sorry if I have the name wrong.)

~DD55

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Reply #857 posted 08/09/17 7:55am

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laurarichardson said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

There might be a warehouse full of M2 candles at PP!

lol lol lol

Do you think this has anything to do with the documents the divorce lawyers gave to the Probate court?

No because the information the divorce lawyers gave to Bremer fell under attorney/client privilege which means its work product between the attorney and the client (like a secret).

If M2 or her attorneys knew the information his divorce lawyers had then it would not fall under attorney/client privilege because it was no longer a "secret" between Ps attorneys and him.

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Reply #858 posted 08/09/17 7:57am

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DD55 said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Yes, there is a document filed in California showing it was also a Corp in Minnesota.

So wait a minute, is this the candle business (not charity) and her 'In a Perfect World' the charity she runs? (sorry if I have the name wrong.)

~DD55

It appears to be because the documents in California show the Corp as being a business for product distribution. It does not appear to be set up as a non profit.

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Reply #859 posted 08/09/17 9:22am

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What I think is that we need to get back on topic. I will send you an org note with my response.


DD55 said:

Mumbo,
Only the poster can tell us what is in their mind, but I have to say sometimes the urge/idea is simply to add balance. We have one poster who responds to EVERY post defending Prince blindly, makes things up, puts forth her own theories as fact and distorts the truth, over and over and over….
.
So, speaking for myself, I sometimes feel the the urge to add balance, and in doing so it is easy to come across negative when that is not my intention at all.
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Let’s give the poster the benefit of the doubt to expand upon the idea and instead of being critical, this is a discussion board so let’s discuss. What do you think?
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Peace,
~DD55

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Reply #860 posted 08/09/17 10:32am

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Everything is being sealed. I guess the real business stuff starts.

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Reply #861 posted 08/09/17 11:15am

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DD55 said:

Mumio said:


This bs is typical for this poster. Go back through past posts, he/she continually slams Prince stirthepot With a fan like that, who needs enemies. censored disbelief

Mumbo,
Only the poster can tell us what is in their mind, but I have to say sometimes the urge/idea is simply to add balance. We have one poster who responds to EVERY post defending Prince blindly, makes things up, puts forth her own theories as fact and distorts the truth, over and over and over….
.
So, speaking for myself, I sometimes feel the the urge to add balance, and in doing so it is easy to come across negative when that is not my intention at all.
.
Let’s give the poster the benefit of the doubt to expand upon the idea and instead of being critical, this is a discussion board so let’s discuss. What do you think?
.
Peace,
~DD55

Adding balance by posting things that are illogical?

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Reply #862 posted 08/09/17 12:34pm

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morningsong said:

Everything is being sealed. I guess the real business stuff starts.

Yeah, but it is really no different than when Prince was alive. We were not privy to his contracts. I am just trying to "normalize" things.

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Reply #863 posted 08/09/17 12:57pm

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morningsong said:

Everything is being sealed. I guess the real business stuff starts.

The court decided to seal finacial matters so we will never see the detail just get the rumors from the news papers.

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Reply #864 posted 08/09/17 1:10pm

DD55

morningsong said:

Everything is being sealed. I guess the real business stuff starts.

Morningsong, that was my thought exactly.

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Reply #865 posted 08/09/17 6:04pm

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laurarichardson said:

morningsong said:

Everything is being sealed. I guess the real business stuff starts.

The court decided to seal finacial matters so we will never see the detail just get the rumors from the news papers.



They'll throw us a bone every once in a while.

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Reply #866 posted 08/09/17 8:00pm

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All business deals were sealed when the case was filed.

We have never been privy to those documents.

What the Judge ordered to be sealed recently will be the investigation of the 3rd Special Administrator who will have a limited role in the Estate.

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Reply #867 posted 08/10/17 8:25am

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

All business deals were sealed when the case was filed.

We have never been privy to those documents.

What the Judge ordered to be sealed recently will be the investigation of the 3rd Special Administrator who will have a limited role in the Estate.

That was going to be the best stuff. Watching the lawyers trying to save their BS commision.

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Reply #868 posted 08/11/17 4:24pm

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Hmm, a few redacted items regarding Holland & Knight. I haven't read all of it, but just browsing but from the looks of it a whole lotta money got wasted on that UMG deal.


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Reply #869 posted 08/11/17 8:21pm

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morningsong said:

Hmm, a few redacted items regarding Holland & Knight. I haven't read all of it, but just browsing but from the looks of it a whole lotta money got wasted on that UMG deal.

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Are the heirs' attorneys' fees paid by the Estate and that's that?

Or will the heirs that spend less on attorneys benefit more?

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