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Shania Twain: "Prince Wanted to Produce My Album"

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June 16th

Shania Twain's long-awaited new album, NOW, is due September 29, and it's her first collection of new material since Up!, 15 years ago. The Canadian diva worked with a number of producers on this project, but if things had gone differently, it would've been produced by none other than rock-and-roll legend Prince.


One reason Shania's new album has taken so long is because since the release of Up!, she divorced her husband -- who was also her producer and main collaborator -- and struggled with dysphonia, an ailment that made it nearly impossible to sing.

"The very first producer that called me, who reached out to me before I'd even written the album -- I was writing all the time but I hadn't started writing for the album...I get a call from Prince," Shania told reporters in Nashville this week. "And Prince and I -- we had a few conversations, we emailed each other," she added. "We exchanged [notes] on email for...months."

Ultimately, Shania admits she let the opportunity pass her by. "When he was calling me and mailing me, I wasn't ready to do the album," she revealed.

"He said, 'Come to my studio, let's get started,' and I just said, 'I can't sing right now, I just don't have my voice yet.' And I never did it."

When she finally was ready, Shania says, Prince was on tour, and they never reconnected. Now, of course, with the Rock and Roll Hall of Famer's death, the collaboration will never happen. Says Shania, "It's like, if I ever had, you know, professional regret, that is definitely one of them."

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Reply #1 posted 06/16/17 9:22pm

williamb610

Of course, all the beautiful women...Prince wants all of them. Just like every man...

Shania is no exception.

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Reply #2 posted 06/16/17 9:56pm

EddieC

Obviously most of us know this, but he did cover Twain's You're Still the One as a duet with Marva King, and streamed it on Love4OneAnother. Pretty poor quality sound, and it was a stream--I always hoped there was a more finished version that might show up in an actual real release. Not that it was a great track--it really wasn't, and I can't say he really added anything to the original--but I still liked hearing the times he did covers, even if most of them never really gelled for me. I can't really imagine a Prince-produced Shania Twain album, honestly.

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Reply #3 posted 06/16/17 10:00pm

Laydown

Nice.she has perfect pop vocals. How good is Jill Jones first album and Jilly hasnt got a real vocal range at all,imagine what he couldve done with Twain.

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Reply #4 posted 06/17/17 12:10am

TrivialPursuit

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I do worry about her just being a voice on a Prince production, opposed to what Robert "Mutt" Lange did for her (and what any great producer does) in pulling out and highlighting her best bits, finding great songs to rework and make their own. He did that so excellently with Def Leppard on Hysteria. Some of the original hooks for things like "Pour Some Sugar On Me" or "Women" were different and uninteresting, until Mutt got a hold of them. He was producing 3 version of any particular Shania album back in the day. There was a country, pop, and euro version of each album while she worked with him. It was a lofty approach, but it worked.

With Prince, Nelson George said that "when you go into work with Prince, you know you're getting a 'Prince production'." Everything sounds like Prince, with someone else singing it. As good of an album as Come 2 My House was, it was still Prince, but less so than something like Jill's album. I don't wanna hear Shania do Prince music. I would want to hear them truly create music together, him respect her process and ideas, and just support that as the songs develop.

It was also a downfall of producers like Darkchild, and Timbaland. You knew the producer before you knew the song (and partly because Rodney had everyone say "darkchild" at the beginning of every damn song he did). When Duran Duran started sounding like Justin Timberlake (and I loves me some JT), that's when I knew that move was wrong for D2.

We'll never know about the Shania project, but it could have been pretty spectacular.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #5 posted 06/17/17 12:52am

SoulAlive

Identity said:


"He said, 'Come to my studio, let's get started,'

lol is anyone else thinking what I'm thinking? evillol

For Prince,that was probably a familiar line that he used with women,lol

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Reply #6 posted 06/17/17 1:37am

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Translation: "Girl, won't you come over to my crib. Turn around slowly and show me what you're workin' with." biggrin

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Reply #7 posted 06/17/17 2:30am

RODSERLING

Clearly, she didn't want to work with Prince. She knows to well, as everyone in the music industry, that working with Prince will end in infinite complications.

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Reply #8 posted 06/17/17 6:13am

ludwig

The One U Wanna C could've been a Shania Twain song. I'm pretty sure he wrote that with her in mind.

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Reply #9 posted 06/17/17 6:15am

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ludwig said:

The One U Wanna C could've been a Shania Twain song. I'm pretty sure he wrote that with her in mind.


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Reply #10 posted 06/17/17 11:31am

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fms said:

ludwig said:

The One U Wanna C could've been a Shania Twain song. I'm pretty sure he wrote that with her in mind.

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Sounds like a pop-country song to me.

Aw. She missed out on being sprinkled with purple glitter.

Well, at least she has a cute P story to tell.

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Reply #11 posted 06/17/17 12:10pm

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If it was pretty and even remotely in the business, Prince wanted to produce them. So many fine ladies, so little time, I think the word 'produce' could be substituted with a few other colorful words.

Nobody chased the ladies like Prince.

"You always get the dream that you deserve, from what you value the most" -Prince 2013
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Reply #12 posted 06/17/17 12:15pm

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To be honest it's a good thing career-wise that she never hooked up with him producing her record
"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #13 posted 06/17/17 12:25pm

kingricefan

Seems to me that pretty much every female he ever 'worked' with had their careers disappear afterwards. Where's Sheena Easton? Where's The Bangles? Of course it could also be said that they had their time as 'stars' which in the music industry usually ends up being 7 years.

rdhull said:

To be honest it's a good thing career-wise that she never hooked up with him producing her record

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Reply #14 posted 06/17/17 12:33pm

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kingricefan said:

Seems to me that pretty much every female he ever 'worked' with had their careers disappear afterwards. Where's Sheena Easton? Where's The Bangles? Of course it could also be said that they had their time as 'stars' which in the music industry usually ends up being 7 years.



rdhull said:


To be honest it's a good thing career-wise that she never hooked up with him producing her record


Nah because many of the ones he worked with in the 80s had great success with his music. Sheena had some of her biggest hits with his sugar walls etc.. bangles too..Sheila, Chaka even though indirectly...but in the 90s and on not so much

And let me qualify by stating that I loved his version of Still The One. Like he said, it needed more power and he gave it to the song imho. I was disappointed he never released his version in clarity

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Reply #15 posted 06/17/17 2:06pm

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Reply #16 posted 06/17/17 2:07pm

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kingricefan said:

Where's Sheena Easton? Where's The Bangles?


Really uninformed questions.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #17 posted 06/17/17 3:05pm

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ludwig said:

The One U Wanna C could've been a Shania Twain song. I'm pretty sure he wrote that with her in mind.



What makes you think so? These two lines don't seem to fit her:

"I know you're in a hurry baby"
"Too tall to be talked down to"
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Reply #18 posted 06/17/17 3:08pm

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Laydown said:

Nice.she has perfect pop vocals. How good is Jill Jones first album and Jilly hasnt got a real vocal range at all,imagine what he couldve done with Twain.



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I think he really wanted to help her but she did not or could not take the opportunity when it arose.
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Reply #19 posted 06/17/17 3:26pm

rogifan

leadline said:

If it was pretty and even remotely in the business, Prince wanted to produce them. So many fine ladies, so little time, I think the word 'produce' could be substituted with a few other colorful words.



Nobody chased the ladies like Prince.


You think he wanted to get in the sack with Shania?
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Reply #20 posted 06/17/17 7:47pm

kingricefan

Thank you!

TrivialPursuit said:

kingricefan said:

Where's Sheena Easton? Where's The Bangles?


Really uninformed questions.

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Reply #21 posted 06/17/17 9:24pm

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That's something for Prince to want to produce Shania's album because she was regarded as a country singer. Guess Prince was a fan of some country music. smile

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Reply #22 posted 06/17/17 10:39pm

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twinnies said:

That's something for Prince to want to produce Shania's album because she was regarded as a country singer. Guess Prince was a fan of some country music. smile


I mean, he did rockabilly a lot early on, plus stuff like "The One U Wanna See" (mentioned), "Right The Wrong", and even "Purple Rain" are country influenced.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #23 posted 06/18/17 10:30am

Identity

rogifan said:

leadline said:

If it was pretty and even remotely in the business, Prince wanted to produce them. So many fine ladies, so little time, I think the word 'produce' could be substituted with a few other colorful words.

Nobody chased the ladies like Prince.

You think he wanted to get in the sack with Shania?



It's debatable whether he'd completely abandoned his skirt-chasing habits. But I suspect he did have ulterior motives to work with her.

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Reply #24 posted 06/18/17 10:55am

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ASS + MAKING MUSIC + SHANIA MONEY $$$ = HAPPY PRINCE! cool

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Reply #25 posted 06/18/17 12:23pm

mtlfan

kingricefan said:

Seems to me that pretty much every female he ever 'worked' with had their careers disappear afterwards. Where's Sheena Easton? Where's The Bangles? Of course it could also be said that they had their time as 'stars' which in the music industry usually ends up being 7 years.

rdhull said:

To be honest it's a good thing career-wise that she never hooked up with him producing her record

Or another way to look at it is that he put Vanity on the cover of Rolling Stone, put Appolonia in a Hollywood movie, put Wendy and Lisa in the Revolution and on the path to their own careers, gave Sheila E her biggest hits, gave Sheena Easton notoriety, gave Susannah a band, gave the Bangles one of their biggest hits which put them on the path to even more success later, ditto Sinead, gave Carmen Elektra her name and put her on the path to celebrity, put Mayte on stage at major award shows, etc. Cat, Boni, Rosie, Tamar, Monae, Candy, Shelby, 3rdEyeGirl... so many women had careers boosts because of Prince. Even Susan Rogers has a pretty decent media profile for an academic/sound engineer because she's an authority on Prince and one of his major collaborators. Yeah, these poor "females" who made career missteps getting tractor beamed into Prince's orbit... just look how collaborating with Prince deep-sixed Madonna's career.

Fuck, Lisa Barber is more famous than 90% of people on Earth because Prince took her to a movie one time thirty years ago.

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Reply #26 posted 06/18/17 12:41pm

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mtlfan said:



kingricefan said:


Seems to me that pretty much every female he ever 'worked' with had their careers disappear afterwards. Where's Sheena Easton? Where's The Bangles? Of course it could also be said that they had their time as 'stars' which in the music industry usually ends up being 7 years.



rdhull said:


To be honest it's a good thing career-wise that she never hooked up with him producing her record



Or another way to look at it is that he put Vanity on the cover of Rolling Stone, put Appolonia in a Hollywood movie, put Wendy and Lisa in the Revolution and on the path to their own careers, gave Sheila E her biggest hits, gave Sheena Easton notoriety, gave Susannah a band, gave the Bangles one of their biggest hits which put them on the path to even more success later, ditto Sinead, gave Carmen Elektra her name and put her on the path to celebrity, put Mayte on stage at major award shows, etc. Cat, Boni, Rosie, Tamar, Monae, Candy, Shelby, 3rdEyeGirl... so many women had careers boosts because of Prince. Even Susan Rogers has a pretty decent media profile for an academic/sound engineer because she's an authority on Prince and one of his major collaborators. Yeah, these poor "females" who made career missteps getting tractor beamed into Prince's orbit... just look how collaborating with Prince deep-sixed Madonna's career.




Fuck, Lisa Barber is more famous than 90% of people on Earth because Prince took her to a movie one time thirty years ago.



I agree.
"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #27 posted 06/18/17 6:34pm

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rdhull said:

To be honest it's a good thing career-wise that she never hooked up with him producing her record


I agree.

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πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
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Reply #28 posted 06/19/17 2:21am

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RODSERLING said:

Clearly, she didn't want to work with Prince. She knows to well, as everyone in the music industry, that working with Prince will end in infinite complications.


But that is not what she said.
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Reply #29 posted 06/19/17 8:43pm

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That's something for Prince to want to produce Shania's album because she was regarded as a country singer. Guess Prince was a fan of some country music. smile

Prince could produce any genre of music, honestly. He was prolific at writing and producing for female singers with pretty voices while creating such beautiful melodies. No disputing that fact. It didn't have to be about getting someone in bed, he was Prince afterall, and he probably could've easily dated her without a production. So don't hate, appreciate!

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