JorisE73 said:

BoraBora said:

"Camille" and "Dream Factory" were sequenced and mastered, but P decided to not release them, not WB.

The original 3CD configuration of "Crystal Ball", instead, was rejected by WB.

Thanks, I'm not that well versed into the history of it all.

Camille and most of dream factory have been released or most fans have these songs already. Trains,is on a Wendy and Lisa album but I dont which album cos Im not into that shit

Laydown said:

JorisE73 said:

Thanks, I'm not that well versed into the history of it all.

Camille and most of dream factory have been released or most fans have these songs already. Trains,is on a Wendy and Lisa album but I dont which album cos Im not into that shit

"Train" is on Mavis Staples' "Time Waits 4 No One" CD.

On Wendy&Lisa's "Eroica" 2CD set (and also on the incoming 2017 remaster) is included "Visions", the short piano intro to "Dream Factory".

BoraBora said:

Laydown said:

Camille and most of dream factory have been released or most fans have these songs already. Trains,is on a Wendy and Lisa album but I dont which album cos Im not into that shit

"Train" is on Mavis Staples' "Time Waits 4 No One" CD.

On Wendy&Lisa's "Eroica" 2CD set (and also on the incoming 2017 remaster) is included "Visions", the short piano intro to "Dream Factory".

the mavis song is different to the one im referring to.

Laydown said:

BoraBora said:

"Train" is on Mavis Staples' "Time Waits 4 No One" CD.

On Wendy&Lisa's "Eroica" 2CD set (and also on the incoming 2017 remaster) is included "Visions", the short piano intro to "Dream Factory".

the mavis song is different to the one im referring to.

So what "Trains" you're referring to?!?

BoraBora said:

Laydown said:

the mavis song is different to the one im referring to.

So what "Trains" you're referring to?!?

the bootleg name

Laydown said:

BoraBora said:

So what "Trains" you're referring to?!?

the bootleg name

?????

JorisE73 said:

BoraBora said:

jaypotton said:

BoraBora said:

"Camille" and "Dream Factory" were sequenced and mastered, but P decided to not release them, not WB.

The original 3CD configuration of "Crystal Ball", instead, was rejected by WB.

I am going to be THAT guy and be pedantic but Crystal Ball was a 3 LP (vinyl) configuration not CD...

You're right. 3LP and 2CD are the correct formats, I made a pudding of all.

There is a podcast with Susan Rodgers being interviewed by Michael Dean. About half way through the 3hr interview she discusses the vault. She states people are working on the vault,getting it together. (paraphrasing here) One day the vault will be released but it will take a while.

OperatingThetan said:

sovembol said:

Which is WHY they MUST brig back the NPGMC. As sad as it IS.. General Public isn't interested..but us Hardcores would pay an astroomical amount for a monthly download service of 2 or 3 new tracks, a video or performace pluse a podcast/radio show once a month.

It is the ONLY way to monetise and viably release all that material. It's reported Prince recorded around 300 new songs with 3RDEYEGIRL alone. How many casual fans have the appetite for even this, which is only a fraction of what is there. If the estate do not create a premium subscriber service for hardcore fans, I fear much of this material will never be heard.

Depends. If they release stuff with motion controls, who knows it could really catch on? Flying saucer props, mystical engram entities like featured in Alien: Covenant. A more terrifying animatronics with a Nintendo interface. Could be huge like MJ's Thriller.

If the estate had any sense (and good business advice), they would leverage the volume of vault material with hardcore fans via Paisley Park sponsorship.

Offer a 'Patrons of The Legacy of Prince' type annual support subscription to keep Paisley Park going, and in return drip feel the patrons with they type of material that would never make mass market release.

Example - Patrons get a live CD (from the hundreds stored) every quarter. Plus, a studio material CD annually. Someting like 'Computer Blue - The complete takes'. It would never be worth selling to the mass market, but would keep the die hards paying a subscription year on year.

sovembol said:

Which is WHY they MUST brig back the NPGMC. As sad as it IS.. General Public isn't interested..but us Hardcores would pay an astroomical amount for a monthly download service of 2 or 3 new tracks, a video or performace pluse a podcast/radio show once a month.

206Michelle said:

sovembol said:

Which is WHY they MUST brig back the NPGMC. As sad as it IS.. General Public isn't interested..but us Hardcores would pay an astroomical amount for a monthly download service of 2 or 3 new tracks, a video or performace pluse a podcast/radio show once a month.

+1

SquirrelMeat said:

This is typical guardian fare really, resorting to the most hyperbolic quote given by a particular

politician on any given day and running with it in short order. It's been rumoured, actually, that the

print guardian readership has declined so much that the editorship have turned to the homeless for

authorship of some of their articles - provided they don't ask for payment. (And yes, owen jones'

name may spring to mind here) However, in spite of initial surprise to anyone reading this, the cost-

saving tactic would implicitly make a degree of sense- given how many articles of late have turned to

trash- something which perhaps only the homeless have vast personal experience of.

right I'm off to make a brew...

The vault is in a right state at the moment and I can only think it's because Sharon Nelson is putting her failed jazz singing career
before Prince and all his fans' best interests.

Do you people actually know how much time and effort it takes to at least get a halfway decent overview of what is actually in the famed 'vault'? Once the recordings have been catalogued, someone must be appointed to select recordings for possible releases. When tapes have been selected one must very carefully handle them, as most of the recordings would have either been done on back-code-tape (analogue) or U-Matic-Tape (digital). Most of those tapes will not play anymore. They have to be baked and saved in the digital world. There's many more steps to follow, before anything can actually get released. Thus, it might take many more years before any real unreleased stuff will eventually surface. As far as I know the owners of the estate have not even appointed anyone checking the vault yet. As far as major record companies would compare to a possible reinstallment of the NPGMC when it comes to vault-material: don't worry. Neither can fuck up anything if the person respronsible for the vault will do a good job. How about this scenario: The etsate keeps the copyright and the masters to license finalized packages to a major label. In the digital age there's not even much need for promotion. All the estate needs to do is getting on good terms with fan-sites such as this... et voila, there's your demographic.

nonesuch said:

I estimate a back catalogue of 5000 unreleased songs and 5000 instrumentals. But who will be the raiders of the (hopefully not) lost ark. Who has Prince's best interests at heart?

Is it the guy who heads Spotify, potentially responsible for structuring future deals? Is it Militant from the org, given a heads up in the official P funeral program? Is it Comerica? Or even laurarichardson? Who decides

BoraBora said:

JorisE73 said:

I think with Camille and Dream Factory those albums were already sequenced by Prince and ready for release but rejected by WB.

"Camille" and "Dream Factory" were sequenced and mastered, but P decided to not release them, not WB.

The original 3CD configuration of "Crystal Ball", instead, was rejected by WB.

was crystal ball 2 ever sequenced??? or just the tracks mentioned at celebration??