Hmm, I notice The Stick off the first Time album has finally been added to streaming.

It also sounds to me like it's been, dare I say it, remastered? Or at least volume adjusted in some way?

Go listen, maybe I just have my speakers set funny today.

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Madhouse shows the following details on Amazon inclusief ASIN:

Original Release Date: February 13, 1987

Finding The Family album before prince passing was impossible,i think he made it obselete cos i tried buying it but it wasnt being sold anywhere. Since P passed The Family was online for sale.

Youtube has The Family and Madhouse albums.Ive downloaded them. Madhouse film clips are also on Youtube but are not downloadable.

jaawwnn said:

Hmm, I notice The Stick off the first Time album has finally been added to streaming.

It also sounds to me like it's been, dare I say it, remastered? Or at least volume adjusted in some way?

Go listen, maybe I just have my speakers set funny today.

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I bought The Time from Amazon a few years ago and they had Autorip for the album but the only song not on Autorip was The Stick. The main reason for buying The Time album was that song so i was pissed when i was made to wait for the physical release to arrive.

Laydown said:

Laydown said:

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The first Jill Jones album and The Family are still not on Spotify, I wonder what the hold up is?

Ugot2shakesumthin said:

maceoparker007 said:

feeluupp said:

Sound is much better on TIDAL HI FI compared to the original cd's and vinyl's...

Yep Tidal have the best quality download. FLAC quality is so much better

TIDAL HI FI is not actual hi definition like HDtracks.com,It's the flac version of the CD.

jaawwnn said:

jaawwnn said:

Ugot2shakesumthin said:

The first Jill Jones album and The Family are still not on Spotify, I wonder what the hold up is?

The hold up? The real question is who is the fraudster uploading Madhouse and Family albums. Theres no way these are legit

The Family is definitely on Spotify. It's hard to find by artist or album name, trying searching for one of the songs, then click (even then, it's bringing up songs by other groups with the same or similar names).

EnDoRpHn said:

EnDoRpHn said:

rdhull said:

jaawwnn said:

The hold up? The real question is who is the fraudster uploading Madhouse and Family albums. Theres no way these are legit

I don't care who or how but put up that Jill Jones on iTunes

Jill only has two non-Paisley albums up on Tidal.

why not just rip your album or cd, or someone else's, for that matter, and put it in a place where it cannot just disappear overnight? Until you have files without DRM or a physical form, you don't have access to the music. Guess I'm old fashioned.

mediumdry said:

why not just rip your album or cd, or someone else's, for that matter, and put it in a place where it cannot just disappear overnight? Until you have files without DRM or a physical form, you don't have access to the music. Guess I'm old fashioned.

Because I dont have Jill Jones, only a wack cdr that was recorded with skips and missin parts of songs for some reasn (deterioration?) etc uploaded.

I have he Madhouse on cd/casette (lol) and The Fam casette and uploaded from somewhere.

The 3 seminal PP releases with primo material.

Jill Jones is missing from that classic Paisley Protege triumverate imho.

rdhull said:

mediumdry said:

why not just rip your album or cd, or someone else's, for that matter, and put it in a place where it cannot just disappear overnight? Until you have files without DRM or a physical form, you don't have access to the music. Guess I'm old fashioned.

Because I dont have Jill Jones, only a wack cdr that was recorded with skips and missin parts of songs for some reasn (deterioration?) etc uploaded.

I have he Madhouse on cd/casette (lol) and The Fam casette and uploaded from somewhere.

The 3 seminal PP releases with primo material.

Jill Jones is missing from that classic Paisley Protege triumverate imho.

All of which have been available in 320 and probably also Flac on P2P networks for more than a decade... There isn't a single Prince side project that can't be found in less than half an hour...

EnDoRpHn said:

Laydown said:

Finding The Family album before prince passing was impossible,i think he made it obselete cos i tried buying it but it wasnt being sold anywhere. Since P passed The Family was online for sale.

Youtube has The Family and Madhouse albums.Ive downloaded them. Madhouse film clips are also on Youtube but are not downloadable.

Madhouse and The Family were both Paisley Park imprints on Warner Bros. Records, prior to the actual joint venture. PPR was headed by Alan Leeds until 1991, and dissolved in 1994, but it too was actually a subsidiary of WBR. WBR probably needed Prince's consent to release any of these to streaming, which he would not have given. They have never show any interest in physical re-releases, which would cost real money. Seems like they're just throwing out whatever they have in their possession now since Prince is no longer around to say no.

According to Alan Leeds, the masters for most PP records were given back to Prince in 1994. He wasn't sure about The Family though, because it may have been before that arrangement was made between WB and Prince.

We know for sure that Prince got TV and HMSMF, back, since they were rereleased by Edel in 1995 without any mention of being licenced by WB and with a (p) NPG Records notice.

According to a former Edel executive, 8 was also supposed to be rereleased by Edel in 1994-95, alongside several other PP records.

We know for sure that Wb retained rights to the Sheila E. albums and Pandemonium, since those were rereleased by WB after 1994, in either physical or digital format.

The status of the Reprise/PP and TDK/PP joint ventures, if any different, is unknown.

This is what we know, assuming of course Leeds and the Edel exec weren't mistaken or lying.

databank said:

rdhull said:

Because I dont have Jill Jones, only a wack cdr that was recorded with skips and missin parts of songs for some reasn (deterioration?) etc uploaded.

I have he Madhouse on cd/casette (lol) and The Fam casette and uploaded from somewhere.

The 3 seminal PP releases with primo material.

Jill Jones is missing from that classic Paisley Protege triumverate imho.

All of which have been available in 320 and probably also Flac on P2P networks for more than a decade... There isn't a single Prince side project that can't be found in less than half an hour...

I know and I have links (now dead probably) but I want itunes proper (yes I know I can send it/transfer it to itunes aftr dl). Thanks for the review DB

it's my experience that official digital tracks rarely meet my standards for id3 data, so I have to edit them regardless of wether I rip them myself, buy them online or download through P2P. In fact, for any CD that has reading errors, I prefer downloading flac through P2P and re-encode to Apple Lossless. Precious few allow download to Apple Lossless. I think the last Wendy & Lisa and most Vulfpeck (only Prince related if you follow a "once removed" rule) albums were the exception to that rule, iirc.

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Meaning, downloading from the Apple or other online store will not make things meaningfully simpler, as you still need to do the work of correctly tagging the files.

mediumdry said:

it's my experience that official digital tracks rarely meet my standards for id3 data,

logg off..and that goes out to all you ridiculous audiophiles

databank said:

rdhull said:

mediumdry said:

it's my experience that official digital tracks rarely meet my standards for id3 data,

logg off..and that goes out to all you ridiculous audiophiles

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audiophiles? This is about the tags... As far as lossless.. that is simply that files can be edited or changed to a different format without quality loss. It's not like audiophiles have too much to find in Prince's archives.

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As to tagging, isn't it important to you that capitalisation is correct? That sorting for last name is done? That Prince & The Revolution, Prince and the NPG and Prince are put together? That you can group all Prince protege bands together?

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I guess feel I've got OCD. I'm not denying that.

mediumdry said:

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It's not like audiophiles have too much to find in Prince's archives.

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The shade of it all!

mediumdry said:

rdhull said:

logg off..and that goes out to all you ridiculous audiophiles

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audiophiles? This is about the tags... As far as lossless.. that is simply that files can be edited or changed to a different format without quality loss. It's not like audiophiles have too much to find in Prince's archives.

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As to tagging, isn't it important to you that capitalisation is correct? That sorting for last name is done? That Prince & The Revolution, Prince and the NPG and Prince are put together? That you can group all Prince protege bands together?

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I guess feel I've got OCD. I'm not denying that.

The hell are you talking about?

shit just put everything under Prince

ylal ocd-ers be killin me with that talk

rdhull said:

mediumdry said:

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audiophiles? This is about the tags... As far as lossless.. that is simply that files can be edited or changed to a different format without quality loss. It's not like audiophiles have too much to find in Prince's archives.

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As to tagging, isn't it important to you that capitalisation is correct? That sorting for last name is done? That Prince & The Revolution, Prince and the NPG and Prince are put together? That you can group all Prince protege bands together?

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I guess feel I've got OCD. I'm not denying that.

The hell are you talking about?

shit just put everything under Prince

ylal ocd-ers be killin me with that talk

I don't have this problem with Winamp. My files are filed by my PC, not my music player. Album titles and credits are correct, made by me. Songs tags aren't a concern. When I wanna play an album, I just look for it in the drive and slide it into Winamp. End of story.