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Thread started 05/15/17 5:30pm

Tchoup1971

Song BREAKDOWN

What are your thoughts on this song? I love this song, also seeing his performance and P getting very emotional after singing it....so many thoughts about what he was singing about...

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Reply #1 posted 05/15/17 5:32pm

PurpleYoda3121

One of his best songs of the 21st century, and tops plenty of his 80's work.

U fall in love 2 fast and hate 2 soon
And take 4 granted the feeling’s mutual
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Reply #2 posted 05/15/17 5:36pm

rdhull

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Tchoup1971 said:

What are your thoughts on this song?

I've wondered of he is speaking from anothers perspective because those lines about New years eve throwin parties and being the first to arrive and last to leave, drinking etc, doesnt really sound like him.

"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #3 posted 05/15/17 5:36pm

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There's a door that u can walk thru, where there used 2 b a wall... whistle yes Great song smile

For all time I am with you, you are with me.
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Reply #4 posted 05/15/17 5:42pm

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The Breakdown has him reminiscing in a falsetto ending in a Beautiful Ones (and 3121’s The Dance) scream of torture, but finally coming to the calmness of the heart repeating “the closer to the break down, the closer we get” as if being torn apart in a relationship ends up bringing two together…. but not before stating “there’s a door that u can walk through where there used to be a wall” allowing a once big tall wall torn down for a loved one to leave on their own will while he turns away, showing the growth of allowing one to leave a relationship sans the power and control trip of manipulating for one to stay. But not before the the cold-blooded statement “Give me back the time back the time, you can keep the memories.” Nobody does a kiss off like Prince

"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #5 posted 05/15/17 7:54pm

kingricefan

I love the song but it's very hard to watch the clip that you're talking about. There's something happening on that stage that the rest of us don't know about and no one from that night is talking.

Tchoup1971 said:

What are your thoughts on this song? I love this song, also seeing his performance and P getting very emotional after singing it....so many thoughts about what he was singing about...

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Reply #6 posted 05/15/17 7:55pm

feeluupp

PurpleYoda3121 said:

One of his best songs of the 21st century, and tops plenty of his 80's work.

lol

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Reply #7 posted 05/15/17 8:35pm

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rdhull said:

Tchoup1971 said:

What are your thoughts on this song?

I've wondered of he is speaking from anothers perspective because those lines about New years eve throwin parties and being the first to arrive and last to leave, drinking etc, doesnt really sound like him.


Listen 2 the story of a man I am not?

The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
No Child's a failure
Until the Blue Sailboat sails him away from his dreams
Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose
Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams
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Reply #8 posted 05/15/17 9:04pm

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Yeah, now that he's gone songs like this are going to get a different spin on them when he wa alive. Excuse me but that is total B.S. confused Never mind--I'm done with this hive of ultra-conspriracy...

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #9 posted 05/16/17 7:48am

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rdhull said:

Tchoup1971 said:

What are your thoughts on this song?

I've wondered of he is speaking from anothers perspective because those lines about New years eve throwin parties and being the first to arrive and last to leave, drinking etc, doesnt really sound like him.

He threw parties and went to nightclubs all the time and he actually said out of his own mouth he use to drink too much around the Emancipation promotion. I believe he is talking about himself

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Reply #10 posted 05/16/17 7:57am

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I have always felt that this song (like many he did over the years) is a conversation with God.

We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
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Reply #11 posted 05/16/17 8:40am

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Genesia said:

I have always felt that this song (like many he did over the years) is a conversation with God.



I agree, because only God can truly break us down, and Prince was wise and knew that no matter how much he loved women.

There are a lot of people wanting to take or assign credit for a lot of this man's thoughts and intentions....
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Reply #12 posted 05/16/17 9:13am

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I am obsessed with this album and this song.

Prince was a genuis lyricist and I believe he wanted each of us to have our own

interpretation of his songs.

Personally, I think the "breakdown" is an illness and Prince is speaking about how the illness is breaking him down.

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Reply #13 posted 05/16/17 9:31am

gandorb

Great song no matter how you interpret it, as it shows Prince being so vulnerable and reflective. You just want to give him a warm comforting hug after hearing it.Perhaps some of us could use a hug after hearing it too wink .
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Reply #14 posted 05/16/17 10:33am

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gandorb said:

Great song no matter how you interpret it, as it shows Prince being so vulnerable and reflective. You just want to give him a warm comforting hug after hearing it.Perhaps some of us could use a hug after hearing it too wink .


yes
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Reply #15 posted 05/16/17 1:57pm

Tchoup1971

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

I am obsessed with this album and this song.

Prince was a genuis lyricist and I believe he wanted each of us to have our own

interpretation of his songs.

Personally, I think the "breakdown" is an illness and Prince is speaking about how the illness is breaking him down.

That's deep!!! Good THOUGHT!

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Reply #16 posted 05/16/17 3:09pm

WeDaBest

Tchoup1971 said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

I am obsessed with this album and this song.

Prince was a genuis lyricist and I believe he wanted each of us to have our own

interpretation of his songs.

Personally, I think the "breakdown" is an illness and Prince is speaking about how the illness is breaking him down.

That's deep!!! Good THOUGHT!

I agree....especially the line "give me back the time, u can keep the memories"....speaks volumes.

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Reply #17 posted 05/16/17 6:40pm

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laurarichardson said:

rdhull said:

I've wondered of he is speaking from anothers perspective because those lines about New years eve throwin parties and being the first to arrive and last to leave, drinking etc, doesnt really sound like him.

He threw parties and went to nightclubs all the time and he actually said out of his own mouth he use to drink too much around the Emancipation promotion. I believe he is talking about himself

OMG..he had parties at PP? He was clubber? He drank during Emancipation, even with drinking lyrics in Holy River? Egads, clutch the pearls! I had no idea in all these decades, even when I met him at Glam Slam Los Angeles (He must have got lost and entered thinking it was a Rite-Aid/Thrifty or something).

I understand that you are grieving Laura, but stop getting it on me.

"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #18 posted 05/16/17 10:20pm

PeteSilas

WeDaBest said:

Tchoup1971 said:

That's deep!!! Good THOUGHT!

I agree....especially the line "give me back the time, u can keep the memories"....speaks volumes.

that's a great line and one that i think anyone past a certain age can immediately understand.

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Reply #19 posted 05/16/17 10:21pm

PeteSilas

rdhull said:

laurarichardson said:

He threw parties and went to nightclubs all the time and he actually said out of his own mouth he use to drink too much around the Emancipation promotion. I believe he is talking about himself

OMG..he had parties at PP? He was clubber? He drank during Emancipation, even with drinking lyrics in Holy River? Egads, clutch the pearls! I had no idea in all these decades, even when I met him at Glam Slam Los Angeles (He must have got lost and entered thinking it was a Rite-Aid/Thrifty or something).

I understand that you are grieving Laura, but stop getting it on me.

you're right, it didn't sound like him or at least what we knew about him. I knew he partied and clubbed but he's saying it like he outpartied everyone else and I don't think that's true.

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Reply #20 posted 05/17/17 4:21am

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rdhull said:

laurarichardson said:

He threw parties and went to nightclubs all the time and he actually said out of his own mouth he use to drink too much around the Emancipation promotion. I believe he is talking about himself

OMG..he had parties at PP? He was clubber? He drank during Emancipation, even with drinking lyrics in Holy River? Egads, clutch the pearls! I had no idea in all these decades, even when I met him at Glam Slam Los Angeles (He must have got lost and entered thinking it was a Rite-Aid/Thrifty or something).

I understand that you are grieving Laura, but stop getting it on me.

What the fuck is the point here? You are the one that made that ridculous statement not me. Unless you knew Prince you have no idea what sort of partying he was doing.

I am not grieving so knock that crap off. Plenty of stories about his love of wine and having a good time. It does not mean the worst things were occuring just maybe things he regretted later on in life.

[Edited 5/17/17 4:25am]

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Reply #21 posted 05/17/17 6:28am

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PeteSilas said:



WeDaBest said:




Tchoup1971 said:



That's deep!!! Good THOUGHT!



I agree....especially the line "give me back the time, u can keep the memories"....speaks volumes.



that's a great line and one that i think anyone past a certain age can immediately understand.



Exactly. Prince had a past just like most of us do. He kept it out of the media but stories were out there...
It wasn't anything bad or beyond what most of us do, but in this song he is admitting to God and to us that he would "[wake] up in places that you would never believe"...
Pretty common for anyone coming from some early hardships.

The point is, he changed. 🙂
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Reply #22 posted 05/17/17 1:43pm

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I always felt he was referring the the rampant negativity of fans on here and in general always breaking him down with their demands and always complaining at whatever he does despite his efforts, you have to remember around that time there was a lot of trolling on here, and we now know he checked this place frequently. Or it was about a former lover who kept criticising him.

I personally found it rather disturbing as it was unusual to hear Prince sounding so melancholy.

[Edited 5/17/17 13:51pm]

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Reply #23 posted 05/17/17 3:01pm

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laurarichardson said:

rdhull said:

OMG..he had parties at PP? He was clubber? He drank during Emancipation, even with drinking lyrics in Holy River? Egads, clutch the pearls! I had no idea in all these decades, even when I met him at Glam Slam Los Angeles (He must have got lost and entered thinking it was a Rite-Aid/Thrifty or something).

I understand that you are grieving Laura, but stop getting it on me.

What the fuck is the point here? You are the one that made that ridculous statement not me. Unless you knew Prince you have no idea what sort of partying he was doing.

I am not grieving so knock that crap off. Plenty of stories about his love of wine and having a good time. It does not mean the worst things were occuring just maybe things he regretted later on in life.

[Edited 5/17/17 4:25am]

If you are not grieving thats its really concerning regarding your posting behavior as of late, which is condenscending, rude, bordering abusive and such. I think you may have ins with a mod or something which makes you fell you have carte blanche to say whatever you do and force your opinions. If none of those things are at play then you should really truly see how you post and basically chill for a minute.

having said that,

I will again state Breakdown is odd because he was always disaappearing before something was over, and awakening in places "you would never believe" as if he was doing some "walk of shame" or waking up in an alley in the trash etc. Its so unlike WHAT WE DO KNOW OF HIM VIA HIS ACTIONS AND LYRICS IN THE PAST (phew rhere I covered myself).

"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #24 posted 05/17/17 4:53pm

PeteSilas

rdhull said:

laurarichardson said:

What the fuck is the point here? You are the one that made that ridculous statement not me. Unless you knew Prince you have no idea what sort of partying he was doing.

I am not grieving so knock that crap off. Plenty of stories about his love of wine and having a good time. It does not mean the worst things were occuring just maybe things he regretted later on in life.

[Edited 5/17/17 4:25am]

If you are not grieving thats its really concerning regarding your posting behavior as of late, which is condenscending, rude, bordering abusive and such. I think you may have ins with a mod or something which makes you fell you have carte blanche to say whatever you do and force your opinions. If none of those things are at play then you should really truly see how you post and basically chill for a minute.

having said that,

I will again state Breakdown is odd because he was always disaappearing before something was over, and awakening in places "you would never believe" as if he was doing some "walk of shame" or waking up in an alley in the trash etc. Its so unlike WHAT WE DO KNOW OF HIM VIA HIS ACTIONS AND LYRICS IN THE PAST (phew rhere I covered myself).

i love laura but she don't get along with everyone, she's been here forever and she has tons of info whichI'm somewhat ashamed to admit is more than mine. I'm pretty knowledgable about Prince so that's no mean admission.

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Reply #25 posted 05/17/17 6:36pm

bonatoc

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TheFreakerFantastic said:

I always felt he was referring the the rampant negativity of fans on here and in general always breaking him down with their demands and always complaining at whatever he does despite his efforts, you have to remember around that time there was a lot of trolling on here, and we now know he checked this place frequently. Or it was about a former lover who kept criticising him.

I personally found it rather disturbing as it was unusual to hear Prince sounding so melancholy.

[Edited 5/17/17 13:51pm]




Some orgers would like for the Org to be Prince's main concern.
Sadly, it wasn't.

Don't confuse our way of life with someone with an average weekly planning as loaded as Prince's.
Negative people already got "pFUNK" and "No More Candy 4 U", which sound more like how Prince would react. He surely wouldn't have a breakdown because of negativity in people. He ignored it.

The Breakdown lyrics are about himself, and time.
Time is the main subject in AOA.

The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
No Child's a failure
Until the Blue Sailboat sails him away from his dreams
Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose
Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams
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Reply #26 posted 05/17/17 6:42pm

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There's also the possiblity of the song not being necessarily biographical.

Since the 1986 MTV interview, we all live by the "I always sing the truth, I sing about my life" statement. As if other artists could sing about other people ("Luka" does not mean Suzanne Vega was beaten as a child, but empathy for abused children), but Prince can't, he's got to sing about himself.

That said, the house with the biggest pool reminds me of the ugly Marbella's estate.

The Colors R brighter, the Bond is much tighter
No Child's a failure
Until the Blue Sailboat sails him away from his dreams
Don't Ever Lose, Don't Ever Lose
Don't Ever Lose Your Dreams
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Reply #27 posted 05/17/17 7:37pm

rdhull

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PeteSilas said:

rdhull said:

If you are not grieving thats its really concerning regarding your posting behavior as of late, which is condenscending, rude, bordering abusive and such. I think you may have ins with a mod or something which makes you fell you have carte blanche to say whatever you do and force your opinions. If none of those things are at play then you should really truly see how you post and basically chill for a minute.

having said that,

I will again state Breakdown is odd because he was always disaappearing before something was over, and awakening in places "you would never believe" as if he was doing some "walk of shame" or waking up in an alley in the trash etc. Its so unlike WHAT WE DO KNOW OF HIM VIA HIS ACTIONS AND LYRICS IN THE PAST (phew rhere I covered myself).

i love laura

I dont care.

"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #28 posted 05/17/17 11:14pm

PeteSilas

bonatoc said:

TheFreakerFantastic said:

I always felt he was referring the the rampant negativity of fans on here and in general always breaking him down with their demands and always complaining at whatever he does despite his efforts, you have to remember around that time there was a lot of trolling on here, and we now know he checked this place frequently. Or it was about a former lover who kept criticising him.

I personally found it rather disturbing as it was unusual to hear Prince sounding so melancholy.

[Edited 5/17/17 13:51pm]




Some orgers would like for the Org to be Prince's main concern.
Sadly, it wasn't.

Don't confuse our way of life with someone with an average weekly planning as loaded as Prince's.
Negative people already got "pFUNK" and "No More Candy 4 U", which sound more like how Prince would react. He surely wouldn't have a breakdown because of negativity in people. He ignored it.

The Breakdown lyrics are about himself, and time.
Time is the main subject in AOA.

i didn't think the song was about that topic but i would not be so quick to write off the effects of the negativity here, it was awful, just toxic. and i can tell you, even the strongest person can be affected by constant negativity, it's like the water dropping on a rock, eventually it'll leave a hole. It's something that has been on my mind a lot with the work I do, people constantly being negative, not super negative, just always something and it's got me so I don't want to put any of my energy into these incredibly hard labor jobs anymore. I've been getting rid of a lot of customers lately and I wasn't like this a few years ago, constant drama, bickering, problems has got me just rather be broke than deal with it. I'm sure prince was effected by what he heard.

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Reply #29 posted 05/17/17 11:15pm

PeteSilas

rdhull said:

PeteSilas said:

i love laura

I dont care.

she has her place here and she deserves it.

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