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Reply #720 posted 05/19/17 12:05pm

moonsister

rogifan said:

Right, another one who would have 'saved' him just like all the "fams" on Facebook. If only they had been there he would still be alive blah blah. Personally I think all of them are delusional.

I agree with you there, and Jill would have been the last person he let get close, she is too over the top emotional. Tyka is the only one who had a chance here, and even that was a chance in hell.
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Reply #721 posted 05/19/17 12:17pm

precioux

2045RadicalMattZ said:

1Sasha said:

My two cents: I don't think Prince was gay. As far as the fellow on the scene in the 80s: he could have hooked up with Freddie Mercury, who was not "out" at the time, or David Bowie, who was supposedly romancing Mick Jagger for a bit there. It's all rumor. Who knows the truth?

"Not out" ....Freddie Mercury? I'm still surprised that many adults thought he was not gay despite doing his whole "gay clone" look in the 80's and donning a shirt from what was a SUPER -GAY club (MINESHAFT) in one of Queen's music videos "Don't Stop Me Now", never mind the "dahling's" and the quote to "are you gay?" as "I'm as gay as a daffodil".

Anyways, I seriously doubt they were in the same circles. Though he's been on record/interview as stating his admiration for Prince.

As for addressing the topic. This is sad, but it does strike me as the circle trying to prevent a disclosure of a serious medical issue. Maybe the other measures were a way to set a screen on the whole issue.

What I don't understand is how nobody's CONFIRMED the Walgreen's report. There are people here near chanhansen... can't someone just go and ask a clerk about it? [this would be a probable potentially credible PRIMARY SOURCE]




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Reply #722 posted 05/19/17 12:22pm

moonsister

precioux said:



2045RadicalMattZ said:




1Sasha said:


My two cents: I don't think Prince was gay. As far as the fellow on the scene in the 80s: he could have hooked up with Freddie Mercury, who was not "out" at the time, or David Bowie, who was supposedly romancing Mick Jagger for a bit there. It's all rumor. Who knows the truth?




"Not out" ....Freddie Mercury? I'm still surprised that many adults thought he was not gay despite doing his whole "gay clone" look in the 80's and donning a shirt from what was a SUPER -GAY club (MINESHAFT) in one of Queen's music videos "Don't Stop Me Now", never mind the "dahling's" and the quote to "are you gay?" as "I'm as gay as a daffodil".




Anyways, I seriously doubt they were in the same circles. Though he's been on record/interview as stating his admiration for Prince.




As for addressing the topic. This is sad, but it does strike me as the circle trying to prevent a disclosure of a serious medical issue. Maybe the other measures were a way to set a screen on the whole issue.

What I don't understand is how nobody's CONFIRMED the Walgreen's report. There are people here near chanhansen... can't someone just go and ask a clerk about it? [this would be a probable potentially credible PRIMARY SOURCE]






"pills and thrills and daffodils will kill"....SORRY!...I couldn't resist boxed



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Reply #723 posted 05/19/17 12:26pm

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moonsister said:

cloveringold85 said:

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WOW!! eek

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That is chilling! If that is true, then I feel heartbroken all over again to think that Prince had the "C", and was holding all that inside and didn't tell anyone! Oh, God! This makes me sad. sad

grouphug if I ever get cancer I will definitely consider my chances of survival before agreeing to chemo. Chemo can be brutal, and if it buys me just a year or two then BYE, I'd rather be upstairs listening to some good music with my best friends who have passed. [Edited 5/18/17 14:17pm]

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Yea, and I will be right there with you! hug

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Reply #724 posted 05/19/17 12:30pm

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sfinky1 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I hadn't thought about that before, but you might be right!

He made the wasted prayers comment about the Moline emergency plane landing. Remember he had just had a medical emergency onboard a plane that was widely reported in the news.. friends and everyone were worried and praying it wasn't serious so the whole point of the PP dance party he then threw was so he could make a quick appearance and say "hey everyone I'm alright!" "Next time wait a few days before you waste any prayers". It makes perfect sense when viewed in context.

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Yea, I know he said that after the emergency in Moline. But, why would he tell people not to pray for him? I mean, people were worried about him. It's normal for someone to pray for someone who is not doing well. Personally, I don't think Prince was doing well, at all. He just didn't want us to worry, but he wasn't fooling us.

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Reply #725 posted 05/19/17 12:35pm

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kingricefan said:

cloveringold85 said:

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When Prince said "Wait a few days before you waste any prayers." What do you think he was trying to tell us?

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Do you think he was trying to tell us he was gonna be gone in a few days, so pray for me then, or maybe he was saying I'm checking out and when you find out, you're not gonna pray for me?

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What he said really troubles me.

Exactly. This is a very troubling statement coming from someone who was a 'wordsmith'. Prince wrote thousands of song lyrics and knew how to play with words to get his point across. So this statement about 'wasting your prayers' is very telling, IMHO. It's not him saying 'Thank you for your parayers and good wishes.'

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Exactly. That's what I'm saying. If someone says they are praying for you, then say "Thank you for your prayers, but I'm fine -- thanks for the love." ya know? But hey, this is Prince we are talking about! LOL lol

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He was a hard nut to crack!! LOL lol

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Reply #726 posted 05/19/17 12:38pm

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MD431Madcat said:

I think the internet can be great and total crap!

Because it can make people ignorant! confused


"Wait a few days before you waste any prayers."

was the end of a Longer speech that he was giving..

Maybe you should find out what he was saying prior and you may have a different perspective on things..?


My take on it is..

He was saying

'dont trip on what the media is saying about my emergency plane incident'.

look at me im fine.. im Prince.. i'm the Man as usual..

in the future Save your DRAMA and WORRY and PRAYERS for a few days until you know for sure that the media is telling the truth..

Because -----> LOOK I'M FINE.. I'm Prince!


kingricefan said:

Exactly. This is a very troubling statement coming from someone who was a 'wordsmith'. Prince wrote thousands of song lyrics and knew how to play with words to get his point across. So this statement about 'wasting your prayers' is very telling, IMHO. It's not him saying 'Thank you for your parayers and good wishes.'

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Okay, I get all that about what Prince said, but it was clear that he was NOT well at all. He insisted that he was "fine", then just 5-days later he was gone. sad

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Maybe he was in denial?

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #727 posted 05/19/17 12:39pm

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MMJas said:

ksl1974 said:

I strongly believe the whole "Wait a few days before you waste any prayers" comment, is directed at his final willingness to get help. I have a feeling he knew he was going to be meeting someone about addiction in the next few days, and possibly going to rehab...somewhere. I don't think his comment had anything to do with death.

This has been addressed before. It sems Prince made this comment in regards to the fact that the band Duran Duran dedicated "Save a Prayer" to Prince in a show upon hearing about the plane emergency landing.

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Interesting. I didn't hear that about Duran Duran.

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Reply #728 posted 05/19/17 12:44pm

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MD431Madcat said:

I think the internet can be great and total crap!


Because it can make people ignorant! confused




"Wait a few days before you waste any prayers."


was the end of a Longer speech that he was giving..


Maybe you should find out what he was saying prior and you may have a different perspective on things..?




My take on it is..


He was saying


'dont trip on what the media is saying about my emergency plane incident'.


look at me im fine.. im Prince.. i'm the Man as usual..


in the future Save your DRAMA and WORRY and PRAYERS for a few days until you know for sure that the media is telling the truth..


Because -----> LOOK I'M FINE.. I'm Prince!





kingricefan said:




cloveringold85 said:



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When Prince said "Wait a few days before you waste any prayers." What do you think he was trying to tell us?


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Do you think he was trying to tell us he was gonna be gone in a few days, so pray for me then, or maybe he was saying I'm checking out and when you find out, you're not gonna pray for me?


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What he said really troubles me.





Exactly. This is a very troubling statement coming from someone who was a 'wordsmith'. Prince wrote thousands of song lyrics and knew how to play with words to get his point across. So this statement about 'wasting your prayers' is very telling, IMHO. It's not him saying 'Thank you for your parayers and good wishes.'




Agree....that is how I took what he said too.
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Reply #729 posted 05/19/17 12:44pm

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Prince was NOT gay!! Some of y'all be trippin'!! LMAO!! nuts

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Prince was labeled as being Gay in his early years because of the way he dressed and his feminine qualities. Even Depeche Mode was labeled as being Gay for how they dressed, but they are all 1,100% heterosexual!!

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It was the 80's folks!! lol

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Princed loved WOMEN!! sexy sexy lol

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #730 posted 05/19/17 12:48pm

moonsister

cloveringold85 said:



MD431Madcat said:


I think the internet can be great and total crap!


Because it can make people ignorant! confused




"Wait a few days before you waste any prayers."


was the end of a Longer speech that he was giving..


Maybe you should find out what he was saying prior and you may have a different perspective on things..?




My take on it is..


He was saying


'dont trip on what the media is saying about my emergency plane incident'.


look at me im fine.. im Prince.. i'm the Man as usual..


in the future Save your DRAMA and WORRY and PRAYERS for a few days until you know for sure that the media is telling the truth..


Because -----> LOOK I'M FINE.. I'm Prince!





kingricefan said:



Exactly. This is a very troubling statement coming from someone who was a 'wordsmith'. Prince wrote thousands of song lyrics and knew how to play with words to get his point across. So this statement about 'wasting your prayers' is very telling, IMHO. It's not him saying 'Thank you for your parayers and good wishes.'





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Okay, I get all that about what Prince said, but it was clear that he was NOT well at all. He insisted that he was "fine", then just 5-days later he was gone. sad


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Maybe he was in denial?



I think even when you're dying and know it you still get up and put one foot in front of the other and muscle through. He loved music and entertaining so he was making the most of his remaining time.
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Reply #731 posted 05/19/17 12:50pm

moonsister

cloveringold85 said:

Prince was NOT gay!! Some of y'all be trippin'!! LMAO!! nuts


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Prince was labeled as being Gay in his early years because of the way he dressed and his feminine qualities. Even Depeche Mode was labeled as being Gay for how they dressed, but they are all 1,100% heterosexual!!


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It was the 80's folks!! lol


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Princed loved WOMEN!! sexy sexy lol




He loved women, would it be so awful if he loved men too?
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Reply #732 posted 05/19/17 12:51pm

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DAYUUM, This thread keeps going off the rails!! nutty

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Reply #733 posted 05/19/17 12:54pm

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moonsister said:

cloveringold85 said:

Prince was NOT gay!! Some of y'all be trippin'!! LMAO!! nuts

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Prince was labeled as being Gay in his early years because of the way he dressed and his feminine qualities. Even Depeche Mode was labeled as being Gay for how they dressed, but they are all 1,100% heterosexual!!

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It was the 80's folks!! lol

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Princed loved WOMEN!! sexy sexy lol

He loved women, would it be so awful if he loved men too?

Yes, it would be if he did not love them in a sexual manner. There is every indication that did not even get along that well with men and was more comfortable around women.

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Reply #734 posted 05/19/17 12:58pm

moonsister

Talk about over the top, I just read where Jill and Jerome are going to host a birthday party for Prince in June. Let me go buy a ticket to that giggle run Jerome run!
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Reply #735 posted 05/19/17 1:08pm

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cloveringold85 said:

DAYUUM, This thread keeps going off the rails!! nutty

Image result for this thread is outta control

nothing's forbidden... and nothing's taboo.
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Reply #736 posted 05/19/17 1:35pm

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laurarichardson said:



rogifan said:


Right, another one who would have 'saved' him just like all the "fams" on Facebook. If only they had been there he would still be alive blah blah. Personally I think all of them are delusional.

Well Jill said she did try to tell him back when he started Paisley Park he was taking on too much work but he did not listen but at least she was honest.


Oh for godssake it's not like everyone around him in the last 10-20 years were just yes people. Shelby said there were times when she would say no Prince 1+1 is not 3. Knowing her personality I'm sure she kept it real with him. And same with Kim Berry and probably a lot of others. But I get it, Jill isn't a fan of KJ so she's one of the good ones around here.
Paisley Park is in your heart
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Reply #737 posted 05/19/17 1:43pm

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moonsister said:

cloveringold85 said:

Prince was NOT gay!! Some of y'all be trippin'!! LMAO!! nuts

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Prince was labeled as being Gay in his early years because of the way he dressed and his feminine qualities. Even Depeche Mode was labeled as being Gay for how they dressed, but they are all 1,100% heterosexual!!

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It was the 80's folks!! lol

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Princed loved WOMEN!! sexy sexy lol

He loved women, would it be so awful if he loved men too?

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Let me rephrase what I orginally said:

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Prince was not gay, nor was he bisexual. I did not mean to imply that there was anything wrong with either one.

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Whatever he chose to be was just fine with me! lol

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #738 posted 05/19/17 1:45pm

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laurarichardson said:

moonsister said:

cloveringold85 said: He loved women, would it be so awful if he loved men too?

Yes, it would be if he did not love them in a sexual manner. There is every indication that did not even get along that well with men and was more comfortable around women.

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Good point, Laura! Prince was very competitive around other men. He would kick your ass in basketball and do it in 3-inch heels too, LMAO!! lol

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If you watch Prince in any interview when he is being interviewed by a Male, he acts a little more macho than he does when being interviewed by a Woman. He acts all soft and lovey around woman, but NOT Men! LOL lol

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Reply #739 posted 05/19/17 1:47pm

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moonsister said:

Talk about over the top, I just read where Jill and Jerome are going to host a birthday party for Prince in June. Let me go buy a ticket to that giggle run Jerome run!

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That will be wonderful. biggrin

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Reply #740 posted 05/19/17 7:38pm

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rogifan said:

laurarichardson said:



rogifan said:


Right, another one who would have 'saved' him just like all the "fams" on Facebook. If only they had been there he would still be alive blah blah. Personally I think all of them are delusional.

Well Jill said she did try to tell him back when he started Paisley Park he was taking on too much work but he did not listen but at least she was honest.


Oh for godssake it's not like everyone around him in the last 10-20 years were just yes people. Shelby said there were times when she would say no Prince 1+1 is not 3. Knowing her personality I'm sure she kept it real with him. And same with Kim Berry and probably a lot of others. But I get it, Jill isn't a fan of KJ so she's one of the good ones around here.

--Are you a a fan of KJ?
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Reply #741 posted 05/19/17 7:41pm

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https://thepurplestream.w...21st-2016/

Review of the Janauary 2016 show at Paisley Park I had no idea about the pieces of instrumental music that he selected.

https://thepurplestream.w...21st-2016/
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Reply #742 posted 05/19/17 7:55pm

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PeteSilas said:

the only thing interesting in the interview, or rather, new is what Brown says about him being forgetful, that's pretty unusual for Prince. Maybe it was sleep deprivation, Bruce Lee was working himself into the grave at the end of his life he too was repeatedly telling people stories and forgetting he said something already. In Bruce's case, i believe it was his obsessive, insane drive to prove to hollywood that he was a star, stories go that he was showing off a pic of his rolls royce and forgetting that he already showed a person the pic. Just silly, shallow and superficial yet it had a factor in his death. How many people ruin their health, their bodies trying to live up to societies bullshit in some way?


I took that as having taken possibly too many pain meds. That's why he would be fine one minute, angry the next...just my take.
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Reply #743 posted 05/19/17 7:57pm

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dance4me3121 said:

derrick31 said:



TrivialPursuit said:




twinnies said:


Do you suppose Prince had AIDS? .... I think something was definitely wrong with him other than his addiction to painkillers. Just my opinion.





Ignorant.



It's not ignorant to ask a question, especially since there was speculation at the time of his death that he may have had AIDS. He may have also had some type of cancer. Prince's appearance changed a lot the last couple of years of his life. Whats unclear is why he was taiking pain medications. People just assume it was hip and joint pain.


I don't see how Prince's appearance changed a lot in the last year's.he always looked great.Maybe there's a bad picture of him that I haven't seen?


Lawdy, he hasn't aged since the 80s!
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Reply #744 posted 05/19/17 8:34pm

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https://thepurplestream.w...21st-2016/ Review of the Janauary 2016 show at Paisley Park I had no idea about the pieces of instrumental music that he selected. https://thepurplestream.w...21st-2016/


Excellent article laura. Thanks for posting it smile

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Reply #745 posted 05/19/17 9:22pm

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2045RadicalMattZ said:

"Not out" ....Freddie Mercury? I'm still surprised that many adults thought he was not gay despite doing his whole "gay clone" look in the 80's and donning a shirt from what was a SUPER -GAY club (MINESHAFT) in one of Queen's music videos "Don't Stop Me Now", never mind the "dahling's" and the quote to "are you gay?" as "I'm as gay as a daffodil".

I was stunned after Liberace passed and he was quoted as saying that he didn't want to come out cuz he didn't want his fans to know he was gay and be shocked.

I remember thinking, Really??? So alla dat right dere was you HIDING being gay???

eek confused lol

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Reply #746 posted 05/19/17 9:31pm

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I was fortunate enough to turn 18 in 1977. If u thought Freddie was straight, u got laughed out of the room. And if u thought Prince was gay ? U were just dismissed as a jealous dude.

Apollonia has had her 15 minutes and needs to stfu.

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Reply #747 posted 05/19/17 10:22pm

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laurarichardson said:

https://thepurplestream.wordpress.com/2016/04/25/words-pictures-paisley-park-gala-event-show-1-january-21st-2016/

Review of the Janauary 2016 show at Paisley Park I had no idea about the pieces of instrumental music that he selected.

https://thepurplestream.w...21st-2016/

Great read!! Thanks for sharing.
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Reply #748 posted 05/19/17 10:44pm

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Although I've poked around a couple times while I've been here at the Org, I haven't really known where to post this thought. I'm sure it's been covered here, probably a thousand times, so I don't want to start a new thread about it. This is a pretty big left turn, but I'm going to take it anyway...

When Mark mentions that Prince may not have been completely himself mentally towards the end, and when considering how long he may have been taking opiates of some kind for the pain he was experiencing, all I can think about is how much that affected the music. I had a friend who couldn't stop taking vicodin (sadly, she is no longer my friend, and still taking vicodin). It got to the point where she was taking four of them three times a day. But she didn't have prescriptions, so sometimes she couldn't get them. Within 24 hours her mind would clear, within 48 hours she was a different person. Taking opiates constantly is not like smoking some weed, it's a totally different kind of high, and long term use/abuse is definitely debilitating. So for me, after the pain, sadness and frustration of Prince's death finally started to wear off, all I can think about is; how much did his opiate use affect the music for the last 5, 10... 15 years? I can't help but wonder how different the music he created in the later part of his career would have sounded.

Anyway... that's it. Like I said, probably been covered a million times, but at least I got it out of my head for once.

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Reply #749 posted 05/19/17 11:00pm

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cloveringold85 said:

sfinky1 said:

cloveringold85 said: He made the wasted prayers comment about the Moline emergency plane landing. Remember he had just had a medical emergency onboard a plane that was widely reported in the news.. friends and everyone were worried and praying it wasn't serious so the whole point of the PP dance party he then threw was so he could make a quick appearance and say "hey everyone I'm alright!" "Next time wait a few days before you waste any prayers". It makes perfect sense when viewed in context.

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Yea, I know he said that after the emergency in Moline. But, why would he tell people not to pray for him? I mean, people were worried about him. It's normal for someone to pray for someone who is not doing well. Personally, I don't think Prince was doing well, at all. He just didn't want us to worry, but he wasn't fooling us.


Doc Funkenberry talked about that in a podcast at that time. He said Prince was really taken back by all the rumors that were going around (that he was sick, dying, etc.) and every one calling, and fans on twitter going nuts, that Prince just really thought everyone was over-reacting. It sounded like it really frustrated him the way people were acting when he was okay. So he was just saying, "Hey, when you hear reports like this on news, wait a few days and see what's up, save your prayers for a few days until you know exactly what is going on."

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