lastdecember said:

The thing is that most if not ALL fans did not ever think of an end, because it seemed like and he was always there, this was not some relic from three decades ago who had a few hits and was never heard from till he died, he had releases till the end, he was in the public eye moist of his life, and he died on a week after playing concerts. But I also feel his death "humanized" him cause I think many thought he was not human, had no pain, no sadness, no bad times, bad days, or problems, meltdowns etc... Prince dictated situations in his life we all know that, and he dictated this too, sadly NO ONE can dictate "time" and also trying to end addiction on his own, in my eyes because he was shameful of the fact that HE got hooked on something he preached to others to steer from. I think it all boils down to this Private man, wanting to keep it all private had no where to turn, I dont even think he wanted outside help, truly I think the intervention coming that day, was not called by him or even suggested by him. Owen Hunsey called it DEATH BY 'YES" and that was it, no one there to say NO you cant do this anymore, Prince was "in control" but not in control, he thought he could do it, and sadly no he could not, so he was in fact HUMAN.

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^^True!^^

jjam said:

EnDoRpHn said:

Watched part of that stupid documentary last night.

Chris Moon says he wishes he had just introduced Prince to some girl, they could have gotten married, had a couple of kids, and Prince could have retired an old man on a rocking chair, sitting on his front porch after decades of working at a factory.

And he (Chris Moon) would have preferred that to making Prince famous.

Prince would have hated that.

He lived for his music and creating/performing. In that, he lived a full life and then some.

Ow c'm'on. Like this was meant to be taken litterally.
I think he's just stating stardom comes with a heavy burden, that's all.
He knew Prince at a crossroads, so he quite normally asks "what if".
He loves Prince, you can tell. Watch it entirely.

Not everything is bad in that TV show. It's refreshing not to see the usual "Prince-is-the-greatest-genius-blah-blah". The actor is doing pretty well, for the most part (the studio jam I don't understand).

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cloveringold85 said:

cloveringold85 said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

On the morning of April 7th (and I posted it here), I felt that he was in danger health-wise.

Then on the 14th, someone asked me about him having to land... and I freaked out a little. But then I felt better.

Then on April 16th (and in hindsight but it was mentioned here), he said something about not being able to play his new guitar. Some (myself included) assumed that meant because he was focusing on the piano tour. But what if it wasn't? That same night he played "Chopsticks" but not much if anything else. Again... what if that was all he could play?

I mean is it possible that being out for some time on the 14th caused some brain or neurological damage?

Being able to ride a bike is not necessarily any evidence of fine motor skills or more complex skills such as playing music.

Add to that what he said about not wasting prayers for a few days...

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I certainly don't think Prince had any brain damage. Medical tests would prove if he had.

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I think it was just a combination of the pain pills, not getting proper rest and proper nutrition, stress, working too hard, etc., can greatly affect a person's cognitive skills.

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It is also likely that being on long-term pain meds can start to affect your liver/kidneys, etc. Could be the reason why Prince was awaiting the results from his blood work.

Mayte's book says that "people" told her he was ill. She also said the rumors after his passing were drug overdose, aids, mental breakdown. One thing I keep going back to is him indicating he was talking to dead people and the dead people were talking back to him. Those kinds of comments are cause for concern regarding mental stability. I may be alone in this, but if my family member made these comments, I would be trying to get help.

dreamer5 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I certainly don't think Prince had any brain damage. Medical tests would prove if he had.

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I think it was just a combination of the pain pills, not getting proper rest and proper nutrition, stress, working too hard, etc., can greatly affect a person's cognitive skills.

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It is also likely that being on long-term pain meds can start to affect your liver/kidneys, etc. Could be the reason why Prince was awaiting the results from his blood work.

Mayte's book says that "people" told her he was ill. She also said the rumors after his passing were drug overdose, aids, mental breakdown. One thing I keep going back to is him indicating he was talking to dead people and the dead people were talking back to him. Those kinds of comments are cause for concern regarding mental stability. I may be alone in this, but if my family member made these comments, I would be trying to get help.

What ?

When ?

Where ?

Lovejunky said:

dreamer5 said:

Mayte's book says that "people" told her he was ill. She also said the rumors after his passing were drug overdose, aids, mental breakdown. One thing I keep going back to is him indicating he was talking to dead people and the dead people were talking back to him. Those kinds of comments are cause for concern regarding mental stability. I may be alone in this, but if my family member made these comments, I would be trying to get help.

What Dr funkenberry

When jan 2016

Where ? january piano and microphone

dreamer5 said:

Lovejunky said:

What Dr funkenberry

When jan 2016

Where ? january piano and microphone

WHat exactly did he say ??

Lovejunky said:

dreamer5 said:

Mayte's book says that "people" told her he was ill. She also said the rumors after his passing were drug overdose, aids, mental breakdown. One thing I keep going back to is him indicating he was talking to dead people and the dead people were talking back to him. Those kinds of comments are cause for concern regarding mental stability. I may be alone in this, but if my family member made these comments, I would be trying to get help.

What ?

When ?

Where ?

recently i've been studying death on youtube channels, one common phenomenon of people in the process of dying is speaking to dead loved ones.

PeteSilas said:

Lovejunky said:

What ?

When ?

Where ?

recently i've been studying death on youtube channels, one common phenomenon of people in the process of dying is speaking to dead loved ones.

WHoa....

NOT LIKE THIS!

I kind of expected him to go on and on until his 70s/80s like James Brown....

However, I do feel he had given all he could and in a sense burnt himself out (look at the drop in his music quality post 1996), don't forget he started very young and had a long creative peak (at least 10 years). I think perhaps at the back of his mind he knew his time on earth was limited, hence the massive work rate and creation of thousands of unreleased songs. It is as if in a way he was creating them knowing that if was to provide for everyone in the years he would no longer be here?!

The main consolation for me is that he was able to escape the fandom and cult of celebrity as well as the fact he couldn't really trust anyone (the fact no-one knows what was going on with him proves he didn't really trust anyone to confide in them).

I also don't believe he was scared of death as his belief was so strong, so he was probably ready at whatever time it would come.

I think in a sense the fact he died alone and in an elevator (rather fitting considering the LGC lyrics) adds to his mystique and think it will probably help his mysterious legacy. Although i don't really think he was 'alone', he liked being solitary and would have probably felt God was with him.

To quote Trollope, "He died as he had lived". In this case - in mystery.

[Edited 5/18/17 0:14am]

dreamer5 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I certainly don't think Prince had any brain damage. Medical tests would prove if he had.

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I think it was just a combination of the pain pills, not getting proper rest and proper nutrition, stress, working too hard, etc., can greatly affect a person's cognitive skills.

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It is also likely that being on long-term pain meds can start to affect your liver/kidneys, etc. Could be the reason why Prince was awaiting the results from his blood work.

Mayte's book says that "people" told her he was ill. She also said the rumors after his passing were drug overdose, aids, mental breakdown. One thing I keep going back to is him indicating he was talking to dead people and the dead people were talking back to him. Those kinds of comments are cause for concern regarding mental stability. I may be alone in this, but if my family member made these comments, I would be trying to get help.

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I heard the story about Prince talking to dead people. Not sure if that is true. It's obvious that something was terribly wrong with him and he was not well. Prince was headstrong, so maybe there was nothing that Tyka or his family could do for him? He didn't like doctor's, so he probably felt he could deal with things on his own. It's just my guess.

PeteSilas said:

Lovejunky said:

What ?

When ?

Where ?

recently i've been studying death on youtube channels, one common phenomenon of people in the process of dying is speaking to dead loved ones.

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I know this is a morbid subject, but after my Mother passed, I started reading about death and the afterlife. Like you said, when a person knows they are leaving this earth, they sometimes see things that we can't and they talk to people & loved one's who have passed. I think when you body starts to shut-down, you enter another dimension.

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This may be too deep for some folks here, but you can read about it. A lot of people have had near-death experiences. If you know Dave Gahan of Depeche Mode, he almost died from a cocaine/heroin overdose and what he described was very chilling. He said he saw his soul leaving his body.

TheFreakerFantastic said:

NOT LIKE THIS!

I kind of expected him to go on and on until his 70s/80s like James Brown....

However, I do feel he had given all he could and in a sense burnt himself out (look at the drop in his music quality post 1996), don't forget he started very young and had a long creative peak (at least 10 years). I think perhaps at the back of his mind he knew his time on earth was limited, hence the massive work rate and creation of thousands of unreleased songs. It is as if in a way he was creating them knowing that if was to provide for everyone in the years he would no longer be here?!

The main consolation for me is that he was able to escape the fandom and cult of celebrity as well as the fact he couldn't really trust anyone (the fact no-one knows what was going on with him proves he didn't really trust anyone to confide in them).

I also don't believe he was scared of death as his belief was so strong, so he was probably ready at whatever time it would come.

I think in a sense the fact he died alone and in an elevator (rather fitting considering the LGC lyrics) adds to his mystique and think it will probably help his mysterious legacy. Although i don't really think he was 'alone', he liked being solitary and would have probably felt God was with him.

To quote Trollope, "He died as he had lived". In this case - in mystery.

[Edited 5/18/17 0:14am]

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I agree with everything you said.

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I think when a person knows their time is up, they are not afraid to face death. Prince made his peace with God, and he welcomed him with open arms.

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He died as he lived.......so true!!

cloveringold85 said:

dreamer5 said:

Mayte's book says that "people" told her he was ill. She also said the rumors after his passing were drug overdose, aids, mental breakdown. One thing I keep going back to is him indicating he was talking to dead people and the dead people were talking back to him. Those kinds of comments are cause for concern regarding mental stability. I may be alone in this, but if my family member made these comments, I would be trying to get help.

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I heard the story about Prince talking to dead people. Not sure if that is true. It's obvious that something was terribly wrong with him and he was not well. Prince was headstrong, so maybe there was nothing that Tyka or his family could do for him? He didn't like doctor's, so he probably felt he could deal with things on his own. It's just my guess.

It's been said that when sick people or people in general, start seeing relatives that have passed on before them, or start communicating with them, will pass themselves soon, or do pass shortly after doing so. And Tyka stating that she had a couple of years to prepare for Prince's dying, is just weird or just plain telling. She either knew that her brother was terminally ill, and so did he, by the way that he was acting, reminiscing about things, doing a tour alone, showing off his prize possessions, getting emotional while on the piano tour, making amends with old friends/ex-co workers, etc. Someone knows something that we as fans, don't know, but no one's saying anything, because face it, there's a lot at stake if they do, so we'll probably never know the full details surrounding Prince's death.

1contessa said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I heard the story about Prince talking to dead people. Not sure if that is true. It's obvious that something was terribly wrong with him and he was not well. Prince was headstrong, so maybe there was nothing that Tyka or his family could do for him? He didn't like doctor's, so he probably felt he could deal with things on his own. It's just my guess.

It's been said that when sick people or people in general, start seeing relatives that have passed on before them, or start communicating with them, will pass themselves soon, or do pass shortly after doing so. And Tyka stating that she had a couple of years to prepare for Prince's dying, is just weird or just plain telling. She either knew that her brother was terminally ill, and so did he, by the way that he was acting, reminiscing about things, doing a tour alone, showing off his prize possessions, getting emotional while on the piano tour, making amends with old friends/ex-co workers, etc. Someone knows something that we as fans, don't know, but no one's saying anything, because face it, there's a lot at stake if they do, so we'll probably never know the full details surrounding Prince's death.

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Yes, I have read that too. A few days before my beloved Mother passed (she was in the hospital), and she was not acting like herself and rambling on about stuff. I asked the Nurse what was wrong and if it was the effects of the pain meds or whatever. The Nurse didn't really say why, but maybe she didn't want to tell me that my Mom was about to pass on. It's a painful memory for me, because seeing my Mom acting that way was very difficult for me to witness. So, I have personal experience with this.

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But I agree; Prince was doing things in his final days that he had never done before. He was opening up and being more vocal than he was before; so maybe in a way, he was saying good-bye to us? Sad to think that way, but maybe that was the case?

cloveringold85 said:

PeteSilas said:

recently i've been studying death on youtube channels, one common phenomenon of people in the process of dying is speaking to dead loved ones.

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I know this is a morbid subject, but after my Mother passed, I started reading about death and the afterlife. Like you said, when a person knows they are leaving this earth, they sometimes see things that we can't and they talk to people & loved one's who have passed. I think when you body starts to shut-down, you enter another dimension.

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This may be too deep for some folks here, but you can read about it. A lot of people have had near-death experiences. If you know Dave Gahan of Depeche Mode, he almost died from a cocaine/heroin overdose and what he described was very chilling. He said he saw his soul leaving his body.

it is morbid but losing heroes for me is morbid business, i've lost too many of them too soon. also most of the people i've loved are gone too so it's natural for me to wonder where and how they went and whether I'll see them again. I'll look up what Gahan saw, stuff fascinates me. I knew a girl who was a coke addict and she told me how she had a premonition of her funeral with her friends and family crying, she pulled out of it thank god and as far as I know is still crazy as hell and alive.

I always had it my mind that Prince would grow fat and old, install a wooden porch and rocking chair at the front of Paisley Park and sit out front like John Lee Hooker, jamming, and ticking the audience off with his Baconskin voice.

Not like this. Pretty sure he didn't either. Very sad he died alone, clearly freaking out. Killed by 'yes' indeed - but who was going to say 'no' to Prince? He got rid of everyone who ever had the balls for that. Kirk lasted longest because he was a sycophant, but I don't doubt he loved his master. Whole thing is truly fucking tragic. But he was Prince. Everything he had in his orbit was down to him, and he was clever enough at the end, I'd guess, to understand the irony of his demise, that those who would tell him 'no', were the ones who loved him most.

dreamer5 said:

Mayte's book says that "people" told her he was ill. She also said the rumors after his passing were drug overdose, aids, mental breakdown. One thing I keep going back to is him indicating he was talking to dead people and the dead people were talking back to him. Those kinds of comments are cause for concern regarding mental stability. I may be alone in this, but if my family member made these comments, I would be trying to get help.

If I told my family some stuff like that, my mother (a pastor) and her prayer warriors would have my butt right in church on my knees, drenched in everything holy, until the demons were gone.

MD431Madcat said:

dreamer5 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I certainly don't think Prince had any brain damage. Medical tests would prove if he had.

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I think it was just a combination of the pain pills, not getting proper rest and proper nutrition, stress, working too hard, etc., can greatly affect a person's cognitive skills.

.

It is also likely that being on long-term pain meds can start to affect your liver/kidneys, etc. Could be the reason why Prince was awaiting the results from his blood work.

Mayte's book says that "people" told her he was ill. She also said the rumors after his passing were drug overdose, aids, mental breakdown. One thing I keep going back to is him indicating he was talking to dead people and the dead people were talking back to him. Those kinds of comments are cause for concern regarding mental stability. I may be alone in this, but if my family member made these comments, I would be trying to get help.

r u sure "someone" wasnt messing with him by using the mind gym on his senses??? it can make u think u r speaking to who they want u to think

PeteSilas said:

Lovejunky said:

What ?

When ?

Where ?

recently i've been studying death on youtube channels, one common phenomenon of people in the process of dying is speaking to dead loved ones.

Read this Pete

https://thepurplestream.wordpress.com/2016/01/22/angels-ghosts-and-dreams-prince-debuts-a-piano-and-a-microphone-at-paisley-park/

tigerlilyluv said:

PeteSilas said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I know this is a morbid subject, but after my Mother passed, I started reading about death and the afterlife. Like you said, when a person knows they are leaving this earth, they sometimes see things that we can't and they talk to people & loved one's who have passed. I think when you body starts to shut-down, you enter another dimension.

.

This may be too deep for some folks here, but you can read about it. A lot of people have had near-death experiences. If you know Dave Gahan of Depeche Mode, he almost died from a cocaine/heroin overdose and what he described was very chilling. He said he saw his soul leaving his body.

it is morbid but losing heroes for me is morbid business, i've lost too many of them too soon. also most of the people i've loved are gone too so it's natural for me to wonder where and how they went and whether I'll see them again. I'll look up what Gahan saw, stuff fascinates me. I knew a girl who was a coke addict and she told me how she had a premonition of her funeral with her friends and family crying, she pulled out of it thank god and as far as I know is still crazy as hell and alive.

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Gahan had a close call and I'm glad he made it out of that dark time in his life. Hope your friend is doing well and is off drugs, for good.

MD431Madcat said:

MD431Madcat said:

Wow those 2 photos above look kinda similar between Little Richard and P...

dreamer5 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I certainly don't think Prince had any brain damage. Medical tests would prove if he had.

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I think it was just a combination of the pain pills, not getting proper rest and proper nutrition, stress, working too hard, etc., can greatly affect a person's cognitive skills.

.

It is also likely that being on long-term pain meds can start to affect your liver/kidneys, etc. Could be the reason why Prince was awaiting the results from his blood work.

Mayte's book says that "people" told her he was ill. She also said the rumors after his passing were drug overdose, aids, mental breakdown. One thing I keep going back to is him indicating he was talking to dead people and the dead people were talking back to him. Those kinds of comments are cause for concern regarding mental stability. I may be alone in this, but if my family member made these comments, I would be trying to get help.

No Joke!!! Totally Weird!!!

Astasheiks said:

MD431Madcat said:

Wow those 2 photos above look kinda similar between Little Richard and P...

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The similarities are uncanny. They almost look like father and son!

Astasheiks said:

dreamer5 said:

Mayte's book says that "people" told her he was ill. She also said the rumors after his passing were drug overdose, aids, mental breakdown. One thing I keep going back to is him indicating he was talking to dead people and the dead people were talking back to him. Those kinds of comments are cause for concern regarding mental stability. I may be alone in this, but if my family member made these comments, I would be trying to get help.

No Joke!!! Totally Weird!!!

Apparently this is a common occurence...

Check this article:http://firsttoknow.com/wh...relatives/

and then read this:

:https://thepurplestream....sley-park/

Prince told us that he had dreams. He dreams of loved ones who have passed way and the dreams are so lucid that for a moment it is as if they are alive again.

Lovejunky said:

PeteSilas said:

recently i've been studying death on youtube channels, one common phenomenon of people in the process of dying is speaking to dead loved ones.

Read this Pete

https://thepurplestream.wordpress.com/2016/01/22/angels-ghosts-and-dreams-prince-debuts-a-piano-and-a-microphone-at-paisley-park/

thanks love.