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Reply #150 posted 05/16/17 5:46pm

darlingnikkkki

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Identity said:




1contessa said:




This is the reaction that I don't get! When someone replies like this, as though Prince having or getting AIDS is just a ridiculous impossibility or too impossible to even think of, is just ridiculous to me! Prince was human like everyone else, and during those years when he was at his most outrageous and promiscious, happened during those years when AIDS was very much prevelant, and he could have very well been exposed to it! So, stop acting like Prince was above it all, because he wasn't! Again, he was human just like we all are, and not ammune to diseases or anything else that human beings go through or get!






Ok, he had AIDS. Let's add ebola, swine flu, bird flu, SARS and cancer to his list of suspected ailments.




I know you're being sarcastic, but what if did have AIDS.....so what??? My point is, some act like AIDS couldn't happen to Prince, or that AIDS is just too horrible to think of where he was concerned, I just don't get that, that's all.




Just goes to show you, even in 2017-- more than 30 years since HIV/AIDS was first diagnosed-- there's still a lot of stigma attached to it, sadly.
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Reply #151 posted 05/16/17 6:24pm

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he wouldve had to have contracted it AFTER Mani.....he wasnt bangin porn stars or strippers at that point

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Reply #152 posted 05/16/17 7:18pm

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luvsexy4all said:

he wouldve had to have contracted it AFTER Mani.....he wasnt bangin porn stars or strippers at that point

uh..not really

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Reply #153 posted 05/16/17 7:18pm

TurnItUp

darlingnikkkki said:

1contessa said:

I know you're being sarcastic, but what if did have AIDS........so what??? My point is, some act like AIDS couldn't happen to Prince, or that AIDS is just too horrible to think of where he was concerned, I just don't get that, that's all.

Just goes to show you, even in 2017-- more than 30 years since HIV/AIDS was first diagnosed-- there's still a lot of stigma attached to it, sadly.

He didn't have no AIDS! If that was the case how come the many countless women he had haven't been infected? Plus if he was HIV positive, I don't see him acting cool, calm, and having the confidence he had when he was on stage. He never acted out like Charlie Sheen did talkin about "tiger blood" and "winning".

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Reply #154 posted 05/16/17 7:20pm

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SoulAlive said:

Exactly.Prince died from taking an overdose of fentanyl.Not sure why some fans wanna dispute that,or choose another narrative to believe....or insist there was some kind of conspiracy to hide the "truth" confused

My point exactly. He died of "accidental" overdose of fentanyl to possibly cover up his terminal illness.

Finally, somebody talkin some sense.

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Reply #155 posted 05/16/17 7:25pm

TurnItUp

Genesia said:

darlingnikkkki said:

Genesia said: I've read of people killing themselves because of a terminal illness, e.g. director Tony Scott.


To escape pain, maybe. Not to "cover up" an illness. That suggests that, if he had cancer, he was ashamed of it, which makes absolutely no sense.

What you just said made sense expect for the being ashamed of having cancer part. Of course he of all people would be. Like everyone has been saying he was healthy and the first thing goes through a healthy person's mind is "how did this happen to me I did everything right" and he was prideful. He wouldn't want everyone feeling sorry for him, asking him alot of questions about it and waiting on him to die. He would never be the one to come out and tell the world that he was diagnosed with something. He's been doing things all by himself his way for most of his life

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Reply #156 posted 05/16/17 7:37pm

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but what about tHe Simpsons episode where Prince is killed because he wouldnt do what "they" wanted??????????

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Reply #157 posted 05/16/17 7:45pm

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luvsexy4all said:

but what about tHe Simpsons episode where Prince is killed because he wouldnt do what "they" wanted??????????

troll

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Reply #158 posted 05/16/17 8:14pm

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I thought it would end soon and suddenly. It was just a weird feeling after that emergency landing and his cryptic statement at Paisley Park about saving ones prayers. Add that to his talking so candidly about Vanity after her death. His appearence not as emaculate as he usually is. Just Tuesday April 19 2016 my brother was saying He's pushing 60 , he needs to slow it down. It was just a feeling for me but I did NOT expect it be this soon but I could feel it coming.
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Reply #159 posted 05/16/17 8:18pm

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luvsexy4all said:

but what about tHe Simpsons episode where Prince is killed because he wouldnt do what "they" wanted??????????

Simpsons is a cartoon.

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Reply #160 posted 05/16/17 10:33pm

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I thought it would end soon and suddenly. It was just a weird feeling after that emergency landing and his cryptic statement at Paisley Park about saving ones prayers. Add that to his talking so candidly about Vanity after her death. His appearence not as emaculate as he usually is. Just Tuesday April 19 2016 my brother was saying He's pushing 60 , he needs to slow it down. It was just a feeling for me but I did NOT expect it be this soon but I could feel it coming.

i have a strange quirk of thinking about some celeb right before they die, it happens all the time. right around the time of the moline thing, I can't remember if it was before that or not but I did think of an old post on here where someone said "he won't live past 57" That was on my mind around that time and i just felt wierd that whole night that he died too, just strange. By and large though, I expected him to live a long long life, he had the genes for it, his dad lived a long time and if you love what you do it can keep you really young. I have a jazz pianist friend, he's got to be about 80 now but I swear he never seems to age and his playing hasn't really suffered. He's probably still good for at least another ten years. I figured prince would be like that. It wasn't like MJ, Mj had been through so much shit I worried about him a lot and when the reports of him being in trouble came along, I was scared shitless because I saw it coming for a long time. Not Prince though, I just thought prince was too aware to get caught up in a lot of stuff but as I know, being aware of dangers doesn't really mean much sometimes.

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Reply #161 posted 05/16/17 11:01pm

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skywalker said:

If you'd have told me Prince would have died in a manner that almost perfectly mirrored the lyrics and metaphor for life/death to "let's go crazy"....I'd have told you that it sounded poetic and kinda beautiful. - It's all perspective: I think the fact that he died in April, with his original "For You" hairstyle, obsessed with moon cycles/symbols, while playing his most career summative, introspective, open, intimate concerts is also quite amazing. - Am I sad he's gone? Yes. - Is he really "gone." Eye say no. He lives on thru his art. He left so much for us in the vault and otherwise.

To be honest I never ever tought about his passing. It´s naive I know, but "end" and "old" were words that didn´t fit him... and I think he hated the idea of getting old as well.

Altough I was devastated with his death, I agree that it was kinda poetic that he left in a sudden , mysterious way, as he always has been.

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Reply #162 posted 05/17/17 12:42am

SoulAlive

TurnItUp said:

darlingnikkkki said:

1contessa said: Just goes to show you, even in 2017-- more than 30 years since HIV/AIDS was first diagnosed-- there's still a lot of stigma attached to it, sadly.

He didn't have no AIDS! If that was the case how come the many countless women he had haven't been infected? Plus if he was HIV positive, I don't see him acting cool, calm, and having the confidence he had when he was on stage. He never acted out like Charlie Sheen did talkin about "tiger blood" and "winning".

I'm convinced that some fans simply want to believe the worst.It makes the story more exciting/more interesting for them confused

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Reply #163 posted 05/17/17 12:52am

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TurnItUp said:

He didn't have no AIDS!


You think he did?! eek

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Reply #164 posted 05/17/17 1:45am

SoulAlive

Very good point.If Prince had AIDS,numerous women would come out now, saying they were infected by him and demanding a huge payment from the Estate.Furthermore,Prince was married twice and neither of his ex-wives have AIDS.Fans need to stop believing those horrible supermarket tabloids.

TurnItUp said:

He didn't have no AIDS! If that was the case how come the many countless women he had haven't been infected?

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Reply #165 posted 05/17/17 2:00am

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SoulAlive said:

Very good point.If Prince had AIDS,numerous women would come out now, saying they were infected by him and demanding a huge payment from the Estate.Furthermore,Prince was married twice and neither of his ex-wives have AIDS.Fans need to stop believing those horrible supermarket tabloids.

TurnItUp said:

He didn't have no AIDS! If that was the case how come the many countless women he had haven't been infected?

Also, the blind item says that the person contracted HIV in the early 90's. This doesn't tie in with him and Mayte having a baby in 96.

RIP sad
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Reply #166 posted 05/17/17 2:07am

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I honesstly thought he'd be in his 80s, still on stage, singing about shagging 18 year old girls, humping the stage but needing help to get back up again.

I would have had a hard time dealing with his passing no matter what age he would have been. But to die so unexpectedly young is still so, so sad.

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Reply #167 posted 05/17/17 2:21am

jjam

EnDoRpHn said:

Watched part of that stupid documentary last night.

Chris Moon says he wishes he had just introduced Prince to some girl, they could have gotten married, had a couple of kids, and Prince could have retired an old man on a rocking chair, sitting on his front porch after decades of working at a factory.

And he (Chris Moon) would have preferred that to making Prince famous.

Prince would have hated that.

He lived for his music and creating/performing. In that, he lived a full life and then some.

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Reply #168 posted 05/17/17 3:07am

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SoulAlive said:

Very good point.If Prince had AIDS,numerous women would come out now, saying they were infected by him and demanding a huge payment from the Estate.Furthermore,Prince was married twice and neither of his ex-wives have AIDS.Fans need to stop believing those horrible supermarket tabloids.

TurnItUp said:

He didn't have no AIDS! If that was the case how come the many countless women he had haven't been infected?

hiv is wierd, magic johnson and arthur ash'es wives don't have it either. neither do magic's kids. arthur had a daughter during the time but he lied about it, she was adopted. That's fair, he must have wanted it secret for a reason but he tried to say that she was his daughter and didn't contract it through a normal childbirth. Comes out years later that she was adopted.

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Reply #169 posted 05/17/17 3:08am

PeteSilas

TurnItUp said:

Genesia said:


To escape pain, maybe. Not to "cover up" an illness. That suggests that, if he had cancer, he was ashamed of it, which makes absolutely no sense.

What you just said made sense expect for the being ashamed of having cancer part. Of course he of all people would be. Like everyone has been saying he was healthy and the first thing goes through a healthy person's mind is "how did this happen to me I did everything right" and he was prideful. He wouldn't want everyone feeling sorry for him, asking him alot of questions about it and waiting on him to die. He would never be the one to come out and tell the world that he was diagnosed with something. He's been doing things all by himself his way for most of his life

charlie murphy kept his leukemia hush hush too, not everyone wants their business out there.

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Reply #170 posted 05/17/17 3:28am

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Since none of us knew Prince had an opioid dependency before his passing, none of us could've possibly guessed. We didn't even know, beyond a few rumours about his hip, that he was even suffering from major pain issues.

Had we have known he was having difficulties with such powerful drugs, plus a possible reported recent history of withdrawals, a potential OD would have seemed more likely.
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Reply #171 posted 05/17/17 8:17am

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daingermouz2020 said:

I thought it would end soon and suddenly. It was just a weird feeling after that emergency landing and his cryptic statement at Paisley Park about saving ones prayers. Add that to his talking so candidly about Vanity after her death. His appearence not as emaculate as he usually is. Just Tuesday April 19 2016 my brother was saying He's pushing 60 , he needs to slow it down. It was just a feeling for me but I did NOT expect it be this soon but I could feel it coming.

I sort of felt the same ...allof a sudden there were a lot of news reports pertaining to him ...Vanity's passing in Feb , a big deal made about the P&M concert in Toronto when I was there in March , and then the Moline incident ...this all in a row when I rarely heard anything of him on mainstream media and was not aware of him for the longest time

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Reply #172 posted 05/17/17 10:28am

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I never believed in the ´flu´ version. But I admit I wasnt so worried about the Moline thing. Specially when I saw Prince riding the bike some days after.

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Reply #173 posted 05/17/17 10:56am

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On the morning of April 7th (and I posted it here), I felt that he was in danger health-wise.

Then on the 14th, someone asked me about him having to land... and I freaked out a little. But then I felt better.


Then on April 16th (and in hindsight but it was mentioned here), he said something about not being able to play his new guitar. Some (myself included) assumed that meant because he was focusing on the piano tour. But what if it wasn't? That same night he played "Chopsticks" but not much if anything else. Again... what if that was all he could play?

I mean is it possible that being out for some time on the 14th caused some brain or neurological damage?

Being able to ride a bike is not necessarily any evidence of fine motor skills or more complex skills such as playing music.

Add to that what he said about not wasting prayers for a few days...


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Reply #174 posted 05/17/17 10:58am

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GustavoRibas said:

I never believed in the ´flu´ version. But I admit I wasnt so worried about the Moline thing. Specially when I saw Prince riding the bike some days after.

I did, I think because it was like I had to! I had to say it was just the flu. But even then I was worried because the flu can get into the heart and into other tissues. About that time I read a story of a kid that got the flu and it went into his heart and he died...

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Reply #175 posted 05/17/17 12:48pm

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The thing is that most if not ALL fans did not ever think of an end, because it seemed like and he was always there, this was not some relic from three decades ago who had a few hits and was never heard from till he died, he had releases till the end, he was in the public eye moist of his life, and he died on a week after playing concerts. But I also feel his death "humanized" him cause I think many thought he was not human, had no pain, no sadness, no bad times, bad days, or problems, meltdowns etc... Prince dictated situations in his life we all know that, and he dictated this too, sadly NO ONE can dictate "time" and also trying to end addiction on his own, in my eyes because he was shameful of the fact that HE got hooked on something he preached to others to steer from. I think it all boils down to this Private man, wanting to keep it all private had no where to turn, I dont even think he wanted outside help, truly I think the intervention coming that day, was not called by him or even suggested by him. Owen Hunsey called it DEATH BY 'YES" and that was it, no one there to say NO you cant do this anymore, Prince was "in control" but not in control, he thought he could do it, and sadly no he could not, so he was in fact HUMAN.


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Reply #176 posted 05/17/17 12:53pm

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In retrospect, I think it ended perfectly. His life and career had come full circle. He died on the day he recorded Sometimes it Snows. He died shortly after performing a great concert in Atlanta, hosting a party for fans at Paisley, hanging out at the record store, riding his bike, recording music, hanging out with friends, etc. Death is always tragic. Often times something could have been done by the person or others. But, death is reality and always sad. We wanted him to somehow die of old age. That is fantasy. If he had died in a car accident because he was texting or slipped in the shower or had some horrible form of cancer would we feel any better? I would actually feel worse. I really think it was a perfect ending. We need to embrace it even though it breaks our heart. [Edited 5/13/17 5:50am]

On that awful "Recreation" show, Mica Paris actually said similar things, it was FULL CIRCLE for him, he went all the way back to where it began, singing all alone, at a piano, something his father told him he would never be better than him at. His hair was as it was, this was in my mind not by accident either, going all the way back to home we first saw him. And yes riding a bike hosting a party, we can even look at January of 2016 where it seemed he was almost saying goodbye to people, conversation with Morris Day, also someone reaching out to MAYTE telling her he was not doing well, it seems to an extent he did know something was around the corner.


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Reply #177 posted 05/17/17 1:24pm

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TurnItUp said:

darlingnikkkki said:

SoulAlive said: My point exactly. He died of "accidental" overdose of fentanyl to possibly cover up his terminal illness.

Finally, somebody talkin some sense.

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So, you think Prince overdosed to cover-up a terminal illness? How can you cover-up any illness with an autopsy report? The autopsy report reveals any underlying disease he may or may not have had.

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #178 posted 05/17/17 1:30pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

On the morning of April 7th (and I posted it here), I felt that he was in danger health-wise.

Then on the 14th, someone asked me about him having to land... and I freaked out a little. But then I felt better.


Then on April 16th (and in hindsight but it was mentioned here), he said something about not being able to play his new guitar. Some (myself included) assumed that meant because he was focusing on the piano tour. But what if it wasn't? That same night he played "Chopsticks" but not much if anything else. Again... what if that was all he could play?

I mean is it possible that being out for some time on the 14th caused some brain or neurological damage?

Being able to ride a bike is not necessarily any evidence of fine motor skills or more complex skills such as playing music.

Add to that what he said about not wasting prayers for a few days...


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I certainly don't think Prince had any brain damage. Medical tests would prove if he had.

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I think it was just a combination of the pain pills, not getting proper rest and proper nutrition, stress, working too hard, etc., can greatly affect a person's cognitive skills.

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It is also likely that being on long-term pain meds can start to affect your liver/kidneys, etc. Could be the reason why Prince was awaiting the results from his blood work.

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #179 posted 05/17/17 1:33pm

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lastdecember said:

donnyenglish said:

In retrospect, I think it ended perfectly. His life and career had come full circle. He died on the day he recorded Sometimes it Snows. He died shortly after performing a great concert in Atlanta, hosting a party for fans at Paisley, hanging out at the record store, riding his bike, recording music, hanging out with friends, etc. Death is always tragic. Often times something could have been done by the person or others. But, death is reality and always sad. We wanted him to somehow die of old age. That is fantasy. If he had died in a car accident because he was texting or slipped in the shower or had some horrible form of cancer would we feel any better? I would actually feel worse. I really think it was a perfect ending. We need to embrace it even though it breaks our heart. [Edited 5/13/17 5:50am]

On that awful "Recreation" show, Mica Paris actually said similar things, it was FULL CIRCLE for him, he went all the way back to where it began, singing all alone, at a piano, something his father told him he would never be better than him at. His hair was as it was, this was in my mind not by accident either, going all the way back to home we first saw him. And yes riding a bike hosting a party, we can even look at January of 2016 where it seemed he was almost saying goodbye to people, conversation with Morris Day, also someone reaching out to MAYTE telling her he was not doing well, it seems to an extent he did know something was around the corner.

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What? Prince reached out to Mayte and told her he was not doing well? She hasn't said anything like that, has she? eek

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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