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Reply #870 posted 05/03/17 6:52am

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Militant said:

If some folks have a high quality soundboard of First Ave 1983, it's possible that clip was just the existing footage synced to the soundboard audio. The video footage itself didn't seem drastically better than what is already circulating, did it?

Looked a lot better to me, like they'd had a go at digitally enchancing it

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Reply #871 posted 05/03/17 6:56am

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I know this isn't comfirmation, but the Japanese version doesn't have any bonus tracks. That's often a good indication that there won't be any store-specific exclusives. That seems to be becoming less common anyway. I may be wrong but I can't think of any recent Target, Walmart, Best Buy exclusives.

Also, if you look at discs 2 and 3, there really isn't any room for any other tracks given that a CD is potentially 80 minutes long. Those discs seem to be full. It could fit at the end of the remastered album, but it'd be weird to stick one track at the end of the original 9 tracks.

Not saying we shouldn't dream of getting everything we want from this project, but at this point I'm excited for what I know is coming. It's not perfect, but it's pretty exciting all the same.


Target still does exclusive editions on a regular basis. Some recent examples are the latest albums from Sheryl Crow, Allison Krauss, John Mellencamp, and Gwen Stefani. They do seem to be becoming less common elsewhere--Best Buy has done them less frequently of late, and I haven't heard of any at Walmart for quite a while.


That said, I wouldn't expect any exclusive versions of this release. In fact, Target has the 2-CD version of Purple Rain up for preorder on their website, with no mention of exclusives.

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Reply #872 posted 05/03/17 7:05am

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NewpowerScarfo said:

fabriziovenerandi said:

The sound quality of Electric Intercourse seems quite low to me...

Huh? Silly goose, it's not for sale yet. lol

The digital download is available for sale just about everywhere.

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Reply #873 posted 05/03/17 7:07am

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It looked ex++ to me. I don't know what quality you guys are used to you guys must have some good shit in your stash. Whenever this gets released I'm sure everybody will be very happy with the quality


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Reply #874 posted 05/03/17 7:09am

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rdhull said:

It looked ex++ to me, he found. I don't know what quality you guys are used to you guys must have some good shit in your stash. Whenever this gets released I'm sure everybody will be very happy with the quality


My collection is mostly Blu-Ray movies, that's pristine for the moment. Don't get me wrong, all things considered, the clip did look very good.

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Reply #875 posted 05/03/17 7:09am

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dodger said:

Militant said:

If some folks have a high quality soundboard of First Ave 1983, it's possible that clip was just the existing footage synced to the soundboard audio. The video footage itself didn't seem drastically better than what is already circulating, did it?

Looked a lot better to me, like they'd had a go at digitally enchancing it

Yeah I got that impression as well after comparing it to the Makings of Rain DVD, the colours seemed vastly better than what we've had previously

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Reply #876 posted 05/03/17 7:24am

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RaspBerryGirlFriend said:

dodger said:

Looked a lot better to me, like they'd had a go at digitally enchancing it

Yeah I got that impression as well after comparing it to the Makings of Rain DVD, the colours seemed vastly better than what we've had previously

I havnt checked the sample myself but has anyone compared it to the more recent "First Avenue 83 - The Right Way" boot? The video was digitally cleaned up altho the audio on that was still video sourced, so if the sample audio is soundboard it would have had to come from warners or one of the collectors that have it

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Reply #877 posted 05/03/17 9:11am

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Revolution81 said:

RaspBerryGirlFriend said:

Yeah I got that impression as well after comparing it to the Makings of Rain DVD, the colours seemed vastly better than what we've had previously

I havnt checked the sample myself but has anyone compared it to the more recent "First Avenue 83 - The Right Way" boot? The video was digitally cleaned up altho the audio on that was still video sourced, so if the sample audio is soundboard it would have had to come from warners or one of the collectors that have it


Just compared.


The new clip is marginally better in terms of brightness, contrast and color grading, but only slightly. I'd say it's no more than a 5-10% max improvement on First Avenue The Right Way.

It's the audio that's far better, so this could still be this footage, ran through some digital enhancement filters and color grading, blended with the soundboard audio.

Not discounting the idea that WB are working on this, but this clip is far from solid proof on it's own.







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Reply #878 posted 05/03/17 9:33am

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minneapolisgenius said:

Just posting on behalf of Sifi (who would post this himself if he could) to clarify that the post up there from that Dilan person is BS. He does not know him.


Thanks.


Dilan said:

Hey everyone, Ive been in contact sifi outside of the org after messaging them and they have let me know there will infact be an additional harcore version centred release with G-Spot, Wednesday, etc, (hasn't given me full info) Additionally there maybe a release of movie outtakes (not clear). An outtake called Amnesia, Jailbait was also mentioned as part of something unlisted from one of the 100 tracks Magnoli was claimed to be given

[Edited 5/2/17 16:15pm]

[Edited 5/2/17 16:57pm]

[Edited 5/2/17 16:59pm]


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Reply #879 posted 05/03/17 9:36am

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Militant said:

Revolution81 said:

I havnt checked the sample myself but has anyone compared it to the more recent "First Avenue 83 - The Right Way" boot? The video was digitally cleaned up altho the audio on that was still video sourced, so if the sample audio is soundboard it would have had to come from warners or one of the collectors that have it


Just compared.


The new clip is marginally better in terms of brightness, contrast and color grading, but only slightly. I'd say it's no more than a 5-10% max improvement on First Avenue The Right Way.

It's the audio that's far better, so this could still be this footage, ran through some digital enhancement filters and color grading, blended with the soundboard audio.

Not discounting the idea that WB are working on this, but this clip is far from solid proof on it's own.







Ah fair enough, wasn't previously aware of The Right Way actually so thanks for this. Guess this does mean that there's a fair possibility that it was just a fan created clip after all, hope that's not the case but you're right, the clip doesn't really confirm anything.

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Reply #880 posted 05/03/17 9:42am

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Militant said:

Revolution81 said:

I havnt checked the sample myself but has anyone compared it to the more recent "First Avenue 83 - The Right Way" boot? The video was digitally cleaned up altho the audio on that was still video sourced, so if the sample audio is soundboard it would have had to come from warners or one of the collectors that have it


Just compared.


The new clip is marginally better in terms of brightness, contrast and color grading, but only slightly. I'd say it's no more than a 5-10% max improvement on First Avenue The Right Way.

It's the audio that's far better, so this could still be this footage, ran through some digital enhancement filters and color grading, blended with the soundboard audio.

Not discounting the idea that WB are working on this, but this clip is far from solid proof on it's own.







.. Then why did u post on ur site and say this was the footage from WB...

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Reply #881 posted 05/03/17 9:46am

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Militant said:

Revolution81 said:

I havnt checked the sample myself but has anyone compared it to the more recent "First Avenue 83 - The Right Way" boot? The video was digitally cleaned up altho the audio on that was still video sourced, so if the sample audio is soundboard it would have had to come from warners or one of the collectors that have it


Just compared.


The new clip is marginally better in terms of brightness, contrast and color grading, but only slightly. I'd say it's no more than a 5-10% max improvement on First Avenue The Right Way.

It's the audio that's far better, so this could still be this footage, ran through some digital enhancement filters and color grading, blended with the soundboard audio.

Not discounting the idea that WB are working on this, but this clip is far from solid proof on it's own.



And if applied to the whole thing (the copy I had was on VHS from 25 years ago) I would be more that pleased!

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Reply #882 posted 05/03/17 12:02pm

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so now the thread about purple rain deluxe, which we've waited for, for well over 2 years,
and the current release of "electric intercourse" has now become a thread about a concert
that is not even in the package, and a really rather pathetic plea-fest for a user who may
or may not have had relevant information about a future release.


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Reply #883 posted 05/03/17 12:10pm

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Comparison between Prince's raw uncleaned footage of "First Avenue 1983" in the vault (blue) and the best bootleg version (purple) and as you can see not much difference (even though pics are low quality)...


https://goo.gl/photos/CsHfiB9aYaBe5aMA8
https://goo.gl/photos/16JMgoDR3djvKP1C6
https://goo.gl/photos/2cDNjkvnnampwiCDA
https://goo.gl/photos/vr9rUYyJjCTD9QBz5
https://goo.gl/photos/8DZo8yERZkKs9Get5
https://goo.gl/photos/MdrcPEYBQcKZY7nH9

Neversin.

[Edited 5/3/17 12:11pm]

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Reply #884 posted 05/03/17 12:43pm

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Neversin said:

Comparison between Prince's raw uncleaned footage of "First Avenue 1983" in the vault (blue) and the best bootleg version (purple) and as you can see not much difference (even though pics are low quality)...


https://goo.gl/photos/CsHfiB9aYaBe5aMA8
https://goo.gl/photos/16JMgoDR3djvKP1C6
https://goo.gl/photos/2cDNjkvnnampwiCDA
https://goo.gl/photos/vr9rUYyJjCTD9QBz5
https://goo.gl/photos/8DZo8yERZkKs9Get5
https://goo.gl/photos/MdrcPEYBQcKZY7nH9

Neversin.

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and that LGC snippet looks 10x better than all of that

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Reply #885 posted 05/03/17 12:58pm

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Yesterday i could pre-order the expanded edition on amazon from Germany.

Today it's not available???

Anyone else in Europe have this notice?

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Reply #886 posted 05/03/17 1:15pm

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nayroo2002 said:

Yesterday i could pre-order the expanded edition on amazon from Germany.

Today it's not available???

Anyone else in Europe have this notice?

Still available in the UK. Price for regular one has gone up to £12.99, glad I ordered at £11.99 biggrin

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Reply #887 posted 05/03/17 1:48pm

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No one can argue that the audio is 1000x better on that snippet than what is circulating.

What might be argued is the video quality. The circulating video is definitely multi-generation VHS dubbed. There is ghosting, muddy detail, colrs are off, etc...

Now, one thing to keep in mind is that the master recording itself is 34 years old. It was probably shot on beta (still tape, not digital). Taking age into consideration, when you compare what is circulating with this snippet, the video quality is actually very much improved. The venue is obviously lowly lit so that plays a part in the overall quality. But looking at this snippet, what I see is, no ghosting at all, The colors are very close to accurate (look at Prince's guitar), but the lighting in the venue will affect that too. There is much more detail in the image. Look at Prince and Wendy's faces, the cymbal stands behind them, the shot of the crowd when the light hits them.

I created a clip of the circulating video, followed by the snippet and the improvement in video quality is very notceable to me. I would share, but doesn't seem like that is allowed.

[Edited 5/3/17 13:58pm]

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Reply #888 posted 05/03/17 1:51pm

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rdhull said:



Neversin said:


Comparison between Prince's raw uncleaned footage of "First Avenue 1983" in the vault (blue) and the best bootleg version (purple) and as you can see not much difference (even though pics are low quality)...



https://goo.gl/photos/CsHfiB9aYaBe5aMA8
https://goo.gl/photos/16JMgoDR3djvKP1C6
https://goo.gl/photos/2cDNjkvnnampwiCDA
https://goo.gl/photos/vr9rUYyJjCTD9QBz5
https://goo.gl/photos/8DZo8yERZkKs9Get5
https://goo.gl/photos/MdrcPEYBQcKZY7nH9

Neversin.


[Edited 5/3/17 12:11pm]





and that LGC snippet looks 10x better than all of that



Hence "raw uncleaned footage"... I was asked to post these old pics because some said only Prince had the raw footage which could be cleaned... These pics prove otherwise...

Neversin.
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Reply #889 posted 05/03/17 2:03pm

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I actually like the blue/purple colours and the slightly crappy picture quality. Just add perfect sound to it.

Hey loudmouth, shut the fuck up, right?
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Reply #890 posted 05/03/17 2:07pm

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IstenSzek said:

so now the thread about purple rain deluxe, which we've waited for, for well over 2 years,
and the current release of "electric intercourse" has now become a thread about a concert
that is not even in the package, and a really rather pathetic plea-fest for a user who may
or may not have had relevant information about a future release.





Bless the Org.
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Reply #891 posted 05/03/17 2:26pm

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feeluupp said:

Militant said:


Just compared.


The new clip is marginally better in terms of brightness, contrast and color grading, but only slightly. I'd say it's no more than a 5-10% max improvement on First Avenue The Right Way.

It's the audio that's far better, so this could still be this footage, ran through some digital enhancement filters and color grading, blended with the soundboard audio.

Not discounting the idea that WB are working on this, but this clip is far from solid proof on it's own.







.. Then why did u post on ur site and say this was the footage from WB...



I said that was the rumor. Which right now, it is. We don't know either way right now. I'm just considering all (well...both of) the options.

As Neversin has just proven, others had access to the raw footage and could clean it up. We already knew some folks had the soundboard.

So as of right now, all that Sifi has, is his word. I'm not saying he is lying, nor saying he's telling the truth. Just saying that clip isn't enough to go on.



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Reply #892 posted 05/03/17 2:41pm

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Can we consider that these details 1st given by Sifi on this post about the Outtakes on the cd3 of PRDeluxe are B.S or straight away from his imagination?

Disc 3: From the Vault

The Dance Electric – 11:29

This song is best-known from André Cymone’s 1985 recording; Prince also occasionally performed it live.

Love & Sex – 5:00

A previously unreleased song from the Purple Rain sessions.

Computer Blue (Hallway Speech Version) – 12:18

A previously unreleased version of this track, including a section known as the “hallway speech” because it refers to a metaphorical passage through hallways marked “lust” and “fear.”

Velvet Kitty Cat – 2:42

A previously unreleased recording.

Katrina’s Paper Dolls – 3:30

A demo version of this song has circulated, but this finished master has never before been heard.

We Can Fuck – 10:17

This song was released on Graffiti Bridge as a George Clinton collaboration called “We Can Funk.” This earlier version has never before circulated at its full ten-minute length.

Electric Intercourse (Studio Version) – 4:57

Live versions of this song have circulated, but this studio recording has never before been heard — and was not even previously known to exist.

Our Destiny/Roadhouse Garden – 6:25

These two songs, connected by a segue, have been performed live.

Possessed – 7:56

This song was widely performed live, and a 1984 recording has been circulated; this is an earlier, never-before-heard 1983 Prince solo version.

Wonderful Ass – 6:24

A previously unreleased collaboration with Wendy and Lisa.

Father’s Song – 5:30

One of the holy grails of Prince’s Vault, this piano piece co-written by Prince and his father is heard briefly in the film. It’s previously been heard only in an abbreviated version taken from the film — never before at its full length
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Reply #893 posted 05/03/17 2:54pm

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That info is generic anyway and in some cases incorrect - the demo of Katrina's hasn't circulated widely.

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Reply #894 posted 05/03/17 3:22pm

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Not a fan of the studio version of Electric Intercourse. The live version is much more soulful.
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Reply #895 posted 05/03/17 4:39pm

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Amazon UK now £22.99 for 3 CD's and DVD omfg




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Reply #896 posted 05/03/17 5:22pm

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TheEnglishGent said:

NewpowerScarfo said:

Huh? Silly goose, it's not for sale yet. lol

The digital download is available for sale just about everywhere.

Good lawd kind sir, you do realize how old that comment is? It pre dates when the official tracklist was revealed or on sale globally. For what it's worth, it's on sale everywhere now. Silly Goose.

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Reply #897 posted 05/03/17 5:38pm

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Neversin said:

Comparison between Prince's raw uncleaned footage of "First Avenue 1983" in the vault (blue) and the best bootleg version (purple) and as you can see not much difference (even though pics are low quality)...


https://goo.gl/photos/CsHfiB9aYaBe5aMA8
https://goo.gl/photos/16JMgoDR3djvKP1C6
https://goo.gl/photos/2cDNjkvnnampwiCDA
https://goo.gl/photos/vr9rUYyJjCTD9QBz5
https://goo.gl/photos/8DZo8yERZkKs9Get5
https://goo.gl/photos/MdrcPEYBQcKZY7nH9

Neversin.

[Edited 5/3/17 12:11pm]

All those pics looks blurry AF when compared to Sifi's snippit footage. However, I can understand Militant's point that it's still unverified info. I say IF what Sifi said happens and we get an PR expanded - expanded edition that includes even more unreleased tracks like Wednesday, Gspot, and others, then that would vindicate his claim to the iron throne of westeros...oops, I mean to being an WB insider.

[Edited 5/3/17 17:41pm]

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Reply #898 posted 05/03/17 6:15pm

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dance4me3121 said:

I wonder if best buy or Target will have a exclusive extra song if u buy the purple rain cd from their store? That's a pretty common thing now days. Just imagine , "17 days" extended version available on purple rain cd ONLY if you buy it from best buy

I know this isn't comfirmation, but the Japanese version doesn't have any bonus tracks. That's often a good indication that there won't be any store-specific exclusives. That seems to be becoming less common anyway. I may be wrong but I can't think of any recent Target, Walmart, Best Buy exclusives.

Also, if you look at discs 2 and 3, there really isn't any room for any other tracks given that a CD is potentially 80 minutes long. Those discs seem to be full. It could fit at the end of the remastered album, but it'd be weird to stick one track at the end of the original 9 tracks.

Not saying we shouldn't dream of getting everything we want from this project, but at this point I'm excited for what I know is coming. It's not perfect, but it's pretty exciting all the same.

Although I don't think there will be store exclusives with this. But Target does exclusive tracks all the time. Mary J Blige's new album has 2 Target bonus tracks. John Legend's new album, Nora Jones, New Kids on The BLock's new album that comes out Friday 5/12, Sheryl Crow, John Mellencamp etc...

They actually have a section with "Target exclusives" in the store.

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Reply #899 posted 05/03/17 8:05pm

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

Not a fan of the studio version of Electric Intercourse. The live version is much more soulful.

The live version is sung with such emotion it makes me cry. The studio version is still awesome though. Especially from a female point of view. Both versions cause me to need a cold shower so to speak

I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.
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