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Reply #690 posted 04/30/17 12:15am

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@Sifi

I'd like 2 know.....Fathers song on PR Deluxe will be a full instrumental version or with vocals?

Thanx in advance
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Reply #691 posted 04/30/17 1:44am

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love2thenines2003 said:

@Sifi I'd like 2 know.....Fathers song on PR Deluxe will be a full instrumental version or with vocals? Thanx in advance

You can't wait 2 months and be surprised wither way?

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Reply #692 posted 04/30/17 1:58am

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EI is genius. Pure, classic Prince. If the vault holds more gems like this we're in for quite a ride.

Purple Rain Deluxe might not contain a few cuts fans were looking for, but what it does feature is promising and at a good price overall.
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Reply #693 posted 04/30/17 2:26am

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TrivialPursuit said:

One could surmise that they were hoping for a windfall based on the Star Trek movie reboot to sell TNG blurays, but it didn't work out like that. Plus, they're just so fucking expensive.

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New HD also means new (premium) licenses to be sold to various services. IIRC they did an exclusive at the start.

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But the sales of the BDs has been disappointing, IMHO because:

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a) they were waaaaay too expensive compared to other sets (Paramount always overprices these things; I recall TNG and DS9 etc being freakishly expensive on DVD while other shows were a fraction of the price despite offering much more extras, e.g. commentary tracks and bonus video etc.).

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b) There were numerous technical blunders (bad audio etc.) which Paramount refused to acknowledge and correct for a looong time. (Paramount also fucked up the European Blu-ray release of Deadwood, even though all they needed to do was use the HBO release and change the region setting. Instead they fucked up the sound and even the menu, and no extras were available.)

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Reply #694 posted 04/30/17 2:29am

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linus4000 said:

Maybe because Prince was more interested in creating new music than to work on old stuff for a Deluxe version....?

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You lot always have some BS excuse. Prince can never fail.

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This release is more than we thought we would get before maybe two years ago....

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Nonsense. The 2014 reporting already mentioned unreleased music, and the inclusion of a concert video (i.e. Syracuse) in a box set was basically a given.

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Reply #695 posted 04/30/17 2:34am

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jaypotton said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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So what? I've pointed out at the time that taking such promises literally is a recipe for heartbreak. They aren't contracts.

And yet you never applied the same rationale to any action taken by Prince in the last 20 years or so. You ALWAYS bitched about pretty much every decision or change of mind Prince made or had. Double standards Bart. Double standards!

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I just gotta love how you lot continue to praise Prince as "doing his own thing", and whenever he fucks up it's "big companies make the same mistakes". Prince had full control, Warners don't, simple as that. Prince posted his brainfarts in public and then later pretended he never said anything (even erasing posts from the newsfeeds of his websites or denying a press release he put out as lies); Warners announced plans and then encountered far more problems than they'd expected. Yeah, I don't hold them to the same standards, because that's simply not fair.

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Reply #696 posted 04/30/17 3:22am

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Sifi unfortunately cannot reply to questions since he has been blocked now.
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Reply #697 posted 04/30/17 4:12am

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minneapolisgenius said:

Sifi unfortunately cannot reply to questions since he has been blocked now.

Why the fuck? neutral

Hey loudmouth, shut the fuck up, right?
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Reply #698 posted 04/30/17 4:19am

OnlyNDaUsa

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minneapolisgenius said:

Sifi unfortunately cannot reply to questions since he has been blocked now.



Could be it was a self closure
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Reply #699 posted 04/30/17 5:15am

love2thenines2
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minneapolisgenius said:

Sifi unfortunately cannot reply to questions since he has been blocked now.

.....it's a joke ??? WHY?? neutral

@Militan > can u enlighten us ??

thanx

[Edited 4/30/17 5:22am]

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Reply #700 posted 04/30/17 5:46am

jaypotton

BartVanHemelen said:



jaypotton said:


BartVanHemelen said:


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So what? I've pointed out at the time that taking such promises literally is a recipe for heartbreak. They aren't contracts.



And yet you never applied the same rationale to any action taken by Prince in the last 20 years or so. You ALWAYS bitched about pretty much every decision or change of mind Prince made or had. Double standards Bart. Double standards!

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I just gotta love how you lot continue to praise Prince as "doing his own thing", and whenever he fucks up it's "big companies make the same mistakes". Prince had full control, Warners don't, simple as that. Prince posted his brainfarts in public and then later pretended he never said anything (even erasing posts from the newsfeeds of his websites or denying a press release he put out as lies); Warners announced plans and then encountered far more problems than they'd expected. Yeah, I don't hold them to the same standards, because that's simply not fair.



"You lot" Hmmm there you go lumping me in with others again Bart. For 20 years I have both praised and criticised Prince. I have always been realistic and fair in my critique of what Prince (or in fact anyone) has done.

If Prince had done a press release stating "2 albums or unreleased material and 2 concert DVDs/films" and then when the release came it was less than that YOU would have gone all Rambo on him.but because Warners have done that you are defending them.

I have been clear all along that I think this is not a bad release. The issue is the misinformation setting false expectations AND no official statement from Warners saying why they had to pull back from their original plans. Simple straightforward good PR. Not rocket science.

You have double standard Bart and even after his death you still cannot help but do all you can to attack everything Prince did. For over 20 years he has been your nemesis and target of your ire and now he has gone you still cannot let that go!

Face facts. YOU Have no idea (and nor do any of us) what EXACTLY transpired between Prince and Warners in relation to the Purple Rain remaster and why it was delayed and why it has ended up being the track list that it is. NONE OF US KNOW!
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
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Reply #701 posted 04/30/17 5:57am

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BartVanHemelen said:

linus4000 said:

Maybe because Prince was more interested in creating new music than to work on old stuff for a Deluxe version....?

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You lot always have some BS excuse. Prince can never fail.

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This release is more than we thought we would get before maybe two years ago....

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Nonsense. The 2014 reporting already mentioned unreleased music, and the inclusion of a concert video (i.e. Syracuse) in a box set was basically a given.

2014 press release did not say anything specific at all...

"Forthcoming projects are in the works, but first up is a digitally remastered deluxe edition of the classic Purple Rain, which celebrates its 30th anniversary this summer.

The press release promises "long-awaited, previously unheard music," but it is unclear what that means."

And yes, Bart....Instead of complaining all the time like you, Prince liked to record new music all the time...

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Reply #702 posted 04/30/17 6:06am

jaypotton

BartVanHemelen said:

the inclusion of a concert video (i.e. Syracuse) in a box set was basically a given.



So when I speculate about a potential realistic scenario that there will be further Purple Rain releases in the future based on standard industry practice to repackage and resell existing works, you accuse me of baseless speculation.

But when YOU say the inclusion of Syracuse was a given, which is clearly speculation on your part, that is ok?

YOU have no idea if Syracuse was intended to be included as of the deal in 2014. I would agree it was a highly likely scenario though. So perhaps you can concede that despite once again attacking someone (in this case me) for speculating, that I too was putting forward something that is a highly likely scenario?
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
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Reply #703 posted 04/30/17 6:19am

dodger

linus4000 said:



BartVanHemelen said:




linus4000 said:



Maybe because Prince was more interested in creating new music than to work on old stuff for a Deluxe version....?



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You lot always have some BS excuse. Prince can never fail.


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This release is more than we thought we would get before maybe two years ago....






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Nonsense. The 2014 reporting already mentioned unreleased music, and the inclusion of a concert video (i.e. Syracuse) in a box set was basically a given.




2014 press release did not say anything specific at all...


"Forthcoming projects are in the works, but first up is a digitally remastered deluxe edition of the classic Purple Rain, which celebrates its 30th anniversary this summer.


The press release promises "long-awaited, previously unheard music," but it is unclear what that means."



And yes, Bart....Instead of complaining all the time like you, Prince liked to record new music all the time...





Exactly, unreleased music and concert video (i.e. Syracuse) was never mentioned.
You lot speculating and making (un)educated guesses again
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Reply #704 posted 04/30/17 6:30am

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love2thenines2003 said:

minneapolisgenius said:

Sifi unfortunately cannot reply to questions since he has been blocked now.

.....it's a joke ??? WHY?? neutral

@Militan > can u enlighten us ??

thanx

[Edited 4/30/17 5:22am]


[Posting of links to download any music or track(s) is illegal and against site rules for legal reasons. Anyone found violating the rules in any way shape or form will be dealt with accordingly - luv4u]


yeahthat

Guess folks want the org in legal hot water or shut down lol

Let's move on folks........................

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Reply #705 posted 04/30/17 6:53am

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luv4u said:

love2thenines2003 said:

.....it's a joke ??? WHY?? neutral

@Militan > can u enlighten us ??

thanx

[Edited 4/30/17 5:22am]


[Posting of links to download any music or track(s) is illegal and against site rules for legal reasons. Anyone found violating the rules in any way shape or form will be dealt with accordingly - luv4u]


yeahthat

Guess folks want the org in legal hot water or shut down lol

Let's move on folks........................


Bummer. I'd got the sense that SiFi had been authorized to share that clip as a sign of goodwill from WB...

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Reply #706 posted 04/30/17 6:58am

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eyewishuheaven said:

luv4u said:


[Posting of links to download any music or track(s) is illegal and against site rules for legal reasons. Anyone found violating the rules in any way shape or form will be dealt with accordingly - luv4u]


yeahthat

Guess folks want the org in legal hot water or shut down lol

Let's move on folks........................


Bummer. I'd got the sense that SiFi had been authorized to share that clip as a sign of goodwill from WB...

This is what i thought....seriously...we have a lot of Orgers here who are talking for nothing...bring no trusty news ( i'm this kind of orger too sometimes) ...and here we have some1 who brings us interresting news...banned in one second....SERIOUSLY 2 times....Flexibility of Mind is a good thing ....this thing piss me off !

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Reply #707 posted 04/30/17 7:31am

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love2thenines2003 said:

eyewishuheaven said:


Bummer. I'd got the sense that SiFi had been authorized to share that clip as a sign of goodwill from WB...

This is what i thought....seriously...we have a lot of Orgers here who are talking for nothing...bring no trusty news ( i'm this kind of orger too sometimes) ...and here we have some1 who brings us interresting news...banned in one second....SERIOUSLY 2 times....Flexibility of Mind is a good thing ....this thing piss me off !

[Edited 4/30/17 6:59am]

It is interesting how different the world of the Prince forum and Facebook are now. Links to anything realeased are made avilable on Facebook within minutes and continue to be shared but obviously on forums like this they are not.

Is it possible to explain why Youtube are immune from these issues by the Safe Harbour laws, but Prince.org are not? It's not a criticism of the Org, I just assume that better lawyers buy you more rights.

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Reply #708 posted 04/30/17 7:42am

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eyewishuheaven said:

luv4u said:


[Posting of links to download any music or track(s) is illegal and against site rules for legal reasons. Anyone found violating the rules in any way shape or form will be dealt with accordingly - luv4u]


yeahthat

Guess folks want the org in legal hot water or shut down lol

Let's move on folks........................


Bummer. I'd got the sense that SiFi had been authorized to share that clip as a sign of goodwill from WB...


Nope. No 'official' permission from WB

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Reply #709 posted 04/30/17 7:46am

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FB gets shut down by the web sheriff, too.

There's no them...there's only us...
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Reply #710 posted 04/30/17 7:57am

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Reply #711 posted 04/30/17 7:57am

leecaldon

getxxxx said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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So? A decent one costs less than $100, and nobody's forcing you to buy one. So why are you forcing fans who do have one to settle for lesser quality (a Blu-ray doesn't just have a better picture, but also a broader color range)?

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And Warners could easily throw in a DVD as well.

i dont know who you are talking to with that tone. like i said NOT EVERYONE has a Blu Ray Player thats a fan. some older fans may not even be interested in a Blu Ray. these elitist fans kill me thinking its their way or no way at all.

I think the point is everyone CAN have a blu ray player, and not at any great cost. It's currently the best widely available format in the physical market.

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Reply #712 posted 04/30/17 7:59am

leecaldon

jaypotton said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Why is it that you lot continue to mistake explanations for support?

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Do I think this release is underwhelming? Yes. But matter of fact, I don't blame Warners. I blame Prince. He's the one who failed to curate his back catalogue, he's the one who obstructed and sabotaged this release for two years, and he continues to be an impediment due to the fact that the vault appears to be a complete mess. Prince has sat on that tape of the August 1983 show for thirty years and appears to have done zero work on it -- bitch about that! Prince signed a deal for this PR Deluxe in May 2014 -- and then apparently did nothing except a remaster in 2015.

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And these days Warners have to deal with warring factions in the estate, plus obviously a significant amount of practical (locating the correct tapes, for instance) and legal issues (the estate selling off rights to unreleased music to Universal in a shady deal).

Mistaking explanations for support (by you) is easy because of the way in which you couch pretty much every post you make. I have seen some inconsistency creeping in Bart. One thing I will say was that in the past you have at least been consistent in your utter contempt for anything Prince ever did post 1992. However, over the last few days I have seen you flip flopping sround and contradicting your own posts across different treads. What is the world coming to!!!!

I thought Bart's issue was with post-95 Prince?

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Reply #713 posted 04/30/17 8:40am

FunkOnTheOne

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FB gets shut down by the web sheriff, too.

It does but firstly, Facebook themselves don't face action and secondly it's simply up 3 seconds later in 15 different groups.

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Reply #714 posted 04/30/17 8:57am

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FunkOnTheOne said:

purplethunder3121 said:

FB gets shut down by the web sheriff, too.

It does but firstly, Facebook themselves don't face action and secondly it's simply up 3 seconds later in 15 different groups.


yes, but the org can't run/hide/diffuse like that. and since this is the place where a lot
of people get their initial information and the one place that everyone seems to monitor
from the prince camp to warners, to at least some degree, it's only logical that they are
also coming down hard on the org if actual files or links to files get posted here.

and since this is the only real place we can all discuss prince and his music and all other
things, it's probably a good thing that the mods are relentless because otherwise they
might have shut this place down for good already.

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #715 posted 04/30/17 9:08am

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Facebook and YouTube have shit-tons of cash and lawyers. The Org does not.
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Reply #716 posted 04/30/17 9:10am

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luv4u said:

eyewishuheaven said:


Bummer. I'd got the sense that SiFi had been authorized to share that clip as a sign of goodwill from WB...


Nope. No 'official' permission from WB

and the fact is that the MODs do not have the time and can not be expected to determine who is and who is not authorized to post stuff that falls under IP protections.

I do hope the 'ban' is a temp one but if not it is what it is. and i respect the mods decisions and rulings.

Anyone for banning the AR15 must be on the side of the criminal as once banned only criminals will have them.
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Reply #717 posted 04/30/17 9:28am

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WB and PP. both need to seek out some of the big collectors and fans and get their input as to what needs to be put out. As far as we all know many...Most.. shows were recorded some with video most with soundboard audio. As well as outtakes and alt versions circulating or just assumed to exist.

but they need to reach out...

Anyone for banning the AR15 must be on the side of the criminal as once banned only criminals will have them.
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Reply #718 posted 04/30/17 9:42am

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SNIP - OF4S

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Reply #719 posted 04/30/17 10:01am

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rdhull said:SNIP - OF4S


Please message 4 the mods.....be indulgent with Sifi this time .....bring back 2 his memory the rules about the audio video Unauthorised posted things....please Bring scifi back again...one more chance!?
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