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Thread started 04/18/17 7:24pm

bluegangsta

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Early Lotusflow3r configuration?

Um... Where?

Deliverance is an unreleased track recorded in 2007 at Paisley Park Studios, Chanhassen, MN, USA. The title appears on an early configuration of the Lotusflow3r album that also contains six tracks that ended up on Planet Earth in 2007. Nothing else is known about the track.

[Edited 4/18/17 19:24pm]

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Reply #1 posted 04/19/17 7:59pm

bluegangsta

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Now that this thread has been reopened... Anyone care to help?

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Reply #2 posted 04/20/17 5:42am

erik319

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bluegangsta said:

Now that this thread has been reopened... Anyone care to help?




If nobody else beats me to it, I'll type it up for you when I get home.

Don't get your hopes up, it's just a horrible mishmash of lotus flower & Planet Earth tracks. And not the best of either IMO
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Reply #3 posted 04/20/17 5:52am

darkroman

I struggle with Deliverance apparently being recorded around 2007/8 as most of it sounds exactly from Emancipation and Chaos And Disorder.

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Maybe Prince was juts borrowing from some old ideas or maybe the songs are mid 90s but recorded late 00s.

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Reply #4 posted 04/20/17 5:53am

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Actually thinking about it, I can access it now, no need to wait til later smile

Lotusflower (Part 1)

Guitar

Chelsea Rogers

Mr Goodnight

All the Midnights in the World

Lion of judah / Song of the Heart - Both crossed out

Future Baby Mama

Lion of Judah

Love Like Jazz

Della Blackheart

Wall of Berlin

Resolution

Deliverance

Something else crossed out - Cant read it

Interlude - (All Things Just)

Lotusflower (Part 2)

Personally, I'm really glad that configuration never happened.

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Reply #5 posted 04/20/17 5:55am

darkroman

erik319 said:

Actually thinking about it, I can access it now, no need to wait til later smile

Lotusflower (Part 1)

Guitar

Chelsea Rogers

Mr Goodnight

All the Midnights in the World

Lion of judah / Song of the Heart - Both crossed out

Future Baby Mama

Lion of Judah

Love Like Jazz

Della Blackheart

Wall of Berlin

Resolution

Deliverance

Something else crossed out - Cant read it

Interlude - (All Things Just)

Lotusflower (Part 2)

Personally, I'm really glad that configuration never happened.

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Sorry to be a pain, but what is the background to this as I've never come across this before.

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For example was it a written note someone saw or a CD-R given to a producer etc etc.

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Personally I think the released version is near perfection - so thank goodness this didn't happen

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Thanks loads!!!!

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Reply #6 posted 04/20/17 6:00am

erik319

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darkroman said:

erik319 said:

Actually thinking about it, I can access it now, no need to wait til later smile

Lotusflower (Part 1)

Guitar

Chelsea Rogers

Mr Goodnight

All the Midnights in the World

Lion of judah / Song of the Heart - Both crossed out

Future Baby Mama

Lion of Judah

Love Like Jazz

Della Blackheart

Wall of Berlin

Resolution

Deliverance

Something else crossed out - Cant read it

Interlude - (All Things Just)

Lotusflower (Part 2)

Personally, I'm really glad that configuration never happened.

.

Sorry to be a pain, but what is the background to this as I've never come across this before.

.

For example was it a written note someone saw or a CD-R given to a producer etc etc.

.

Personally I think the released version is near perfection - so thank goodness this didn't happen

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Thanks loads!!!!

.

lol

Hand written tracklist by Prince. In the recent French book by (I think) Alex Tain.

And I agree, the tracklisting is not very good at all. smile

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Reply #7 posted 04/20/17 3:35pm

bluegangsta

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erik319 said:

Actually thinking about it, I can access it now, no need to wait til later smile

Lotusflower (Part 1)

Guitar

Chelsea Rogers

Mr Goodnight

All the Midnights in the World

Lion of judah / Song of the Heart - Both crossed out

Future Baby Mama

Lion of Judah

Love Like Jazz

Della Blackheart

Wall of Berlin

Resolution

Deliverance

Something else crossed out - Cant read it

Interlude - (All Things Just)

Lotusflower (Part 2)

Personally, I'm really glad that configuration never happened.

This is very interesting, thank you!

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Reply #8 posted 04/23/17 3:57pm

Tangerine17

The crossed out title that is illegible is "All Is Well Interlude" changed to "All Things Just."

erik319 said:

Actually thinking about it, I can access it now, no need to wait til later smile



Lotusflower (Part 1)


Guitar


Chelsea Rogers


Mr Goodnight


All the Midnights in the World


Lion of judah / Song of the Heart - Both crossed out


Future Baby Mama


Lion of Judah


Love Like Jazz


Della Blackheart


Wall of Berlin


Resolution


Deliverance


Something else crossed out - Cant read it


Interlude - (All Things Just)


Lotusflower (Part 2)



Personally, I'm really glad that configuration never happened.

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Reply #9 posted 04/23/17 4:22pm

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erik319 said:

Actually thinking about it, I can access it now, no need to wait til later smile

Lotusflower (Part 1)

Guitar

Chelsea Rogers

Mr Goodnight

All the Midnights in the World

Lion of judah / Song of the Heart - Both crossed out

Future Baby Mama

Lion of Judah

Love Like Jazz

Della Blackheart

Wall of Berlin

Resolution

Deliverance

Something else crossed out - Cant read it

Interlude - (All Things Just)

Lotusflower (Part 2)

Personally, I'm really glad that configuration never happened.

Thanks a lot for this, had never seen it before. Does seem to be a bit of a mishmash of different styles so I can't say it looks hugely appealing. Della Blackheart looks like it's the only unreleased track from this then, wonder what that sounds like, pretty odd title hmmm

Heavenly wine and roses seems to whisper to me when you smile...
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Reply #10 posted 04/23/17 6:08pm

highcalonic

I'm glad that this configuration never saw the light of day !

This is my LotusFlower (a new approach) playlist, a lot better than his i think.



From The Lotus...

Boom

Crimson And Clover

3121

Wall Of Berlin

$

Deliverance

I Am

Touch Me

Sunrise Sunset

No One Else

Colonized Mind

Dreamer

...Back 2 The Lotus

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[Edited 4/23/17 18:09pm]

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Reply #11 posted 04/23/17 6:16pm

bluegangsta

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highcalonic said:

I'm glad that this configuration never saw the light of day !

This is my LotusFlower (a new approach) playlist, a lot better than his i think.



From The Lotus...

Boom

Crimson And Clover

3121

Wall Of Berlin

$

Deliverance

I Am

Touch Me

Sunrise Sunset

No One Else

Colonized Mind

Dreamer

...Back 2 The Lotus

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[Edited 4/23/17 18:09pm]

I couldn't dissagree more. I think Lotusflow3r is near perfect (which ever configuration). Adding the new stuff in drasticlly reduces the quality.

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Reply #12 posted 04/23/17 6:32pm

highcalonic

bluegangsta said:

I couldn't dissagree more. I think Lotusflow3r is near perfect (which ever configuration). Adding the new stuff in drasticlly reduces the quality.


I don't think that the songs 4ever, Love Like Jazz or 77 Beverly Park fits well in the LotusFlower concept.

Plus, i think a lot of this comes from a 2006 session with Michael B. and Sonny T. that's why i made these choices. I thing it's a lot better end it flows well.

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Reply #13 posted 04/24/17 3:05am

Marco81

Yeah that early Lotusflower tracklist just looks like a very first attempt at compiling something with tracks he probably had just been working on.

As for the new tracks "I Am", "Touch Me", "Sunrise Sunset" and "No One Else", they were part of an early Planet Earth configuration dated May 2007 (only 2 months before the official release), according to Matthieu Bitton, who also owns the original tracks (not mixed/instrumentation added by Boxill).

Interesting because I remember a couple of people in here mentioning a different tracklist for Planet Earth 10 yeas ago, around June 2007. None of them actually posted the alternate tracklist, so that was billed as fake info.

Btw, the idea and first configurations of the LotusFlower album started before 3121 was even born as an idea.

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Reply #14 posted 04/24/17 4:23am

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erik319 said:

darkroman said:

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Sorry to be a pain, but what is the background to this as I've never come across this before.

.

For example was it a written note someone saw or a CD-R given to a producer etc etc.

.

Personally I think the released version is near perfection - so thank goodness this didn't happen

.

Thanks loads!!!!

.

lol

Hand written tracklist by Prince. In the recent French book by (I think) Alex Tain.

And I agree, the tracklisting is not very good at all. smile

Which book is this?

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Reply #15 posted 04/24/17 7:18am

Marco81

rlittler81 said:

erik319 said:

Hand written tracklist by Prince. In the recent French book by (I think) Alex Tain.

And I agree, the tracklisting is not very good at all. smile

Which book is this?

http://www.editionsladecouverte.fr/catalogue/index-Prince__le_cygne_noir-9782707195913.html

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Reply #16 posted 04/24/17 7:30am

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interesting to see that early sketch tracklist. but very, very glad that
the album became what it did because i think it's as close to perfect
as any prince album before or after. i'm still obsessed with that album.

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Reply #17 posted 04/24/17 7:33am

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now, there was also talk of a early/different/alternate 'planet earth' tracklist
floating around somewhere. i'd be interested in that as well.

pretty much anything from the period 3121 - Lotusflower, that ended up on
either 3 of those albums and probably went back and forth between them a
few times.

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Reply #18 posted 04/24/17 8:07am

Marco81

IstenSzek said:

interesting to see that early sketch tracklist. but very, very glad that
the album became what it did because i think it's as close to perfect
as any prince album before or after. i'm still obsessed with that album.

guitar

I agree, my only wish would have been to have Prince's version of Redhead Stepchild to replace 77 beverly Park.

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Reply #19 posted 04/24/17 8:30am

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This is the new Come // Gold looks like lol. Planet Earth was far a slump in comparison to Lotus Flow3r. Lotus is now one of my top 10 prince albums of all time. It just fits..the entire thing...sans the other albums attatched to it.

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Reply #20 posted 04/24/17 11:43am

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paisleypark4 said:

This is the new Come // Gold looks like lol. Planet Earth was far a slump in comparison to Lotus Flow3r. Lotus is now one of my top 10 prince albums of all time. It just fits..the entire thing...sans the other albums attatched to it.


what with the material the ended up being released first, on 3121 and all the stuff between
then and Lotusflower, it really does feel similar to the whole 93/95 era with so many good
to great songs, that swapped between prince projects and even protege projects.

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Reply #21 posted 04/25/17 12:47pm

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IstenSzek said:

paisleypark4 said:

This is the new Come // Gold looks like lol. Planet Earth was far a slump in comparison to Lotus Flow3r. Lotus is now one of my top 10 prince albums of all time. It just fits..the entire thing...sans the other albums attatched to it.


what with the material the ended up being released first, on 3121 and all the stuff between
then and Lotusflower, it really does feel similar to the whole 93/95 era with so many good
to great songs, that swapped between prince projects and even protege projects.


nod !!

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Reply #22 posted 05/03/17 5:38am

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Maybe this?

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Is poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?
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