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Reply #30 posted 04/18/17 6:54pm

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jjam said:

grantevans said:

Is that him in the video or an impersonator?

An impersonator.

Pretty good on some of the body language...

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Reply #31 posted 04/18/17 6:56pm

dance4me3121

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dance4me3121 said:


We have to wait until June 2 for a physical release? Also I'm not a apple music user.I hate to download the app to purchase this EP but I will if I have to. Hopefully it will be on Amazon or Google music

it says this friday on CD..not june 2



http://www.spin.com/2017/...new-music/

I was referring to this article.


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Reply #32 posted 04/18/17 6:57pm

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some would argue singing about big cities and shit is bullshit.

At least they exist. lol

Here's the thing. I'm agnostic. I don't believe everything that Prince says about God, Jesus, etc., but I'm acrutely interested in hearing someone like Prince sing about something he is obviously very passionate about. Without that passion I don't think that Prince would be the artist he was.

I'm secure enough in my belief, or lack thereof, to be openminded and listen to what he has to say and try to understand why he is so religious/what drove his beliefs. I just can't understand people who are so closed to anything outside of what they believe.

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Reply #33 posted 04/18/17 6:58pm

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blizzybiz said:




bluegangsta said:



Oh good, this is going to be some dogmatic "my religion is right and your rational, observable facts aren't" bullshit.



just curious; given his proclivity to weave religion into just about everything he did, and knowing that as peopel get older, their beliefs change, mature, etc., what the fuck is the issue here? What would you like him to sing about?



Something less ignorant - like big cities and shit.


There's only one thing ignorant here and it's not the song SMH
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Reply #34 posted 04/18/17 6:58pm

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Be still my broken heart.

I mean if he did have sex he would break every rule Jehova's have regarding premarital sex so Prince is really just friends with them all anyway.
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Reply #35 posted 04/18/17 7:03pm

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Downloaded and gave a quick listen to the songs. Definitely doesn't sound like anything Prince ever intended to release as a project. It makes me think that this is what the Chaos and Disorder album would have sounded like if Prince had 3rd Eyed Girl back then. This is Prince on auto-pilot. Some of these songs might just have to grow on me.

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Reply #36 posted 04/18/17 7:04pm

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sounds fake..

Am I the only one thinking that.. question

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Reply #37 posted 04/18/17 7:07pm

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Yikes. Kinda conflicted about it. Wonderful to hear his voice on new music again, but this shouldn't have been the first new thing. The strategy behind getting the vault music out there is still being worked out, and this kind of throws a wrench into things, and cheapens what they're trying to do for the future. You know Prince wouldn't be happy about this, especially about a bootleg Prince dancing around in the video. Can't say I didn't buy it though!
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Reply #38 posted 04/18/17 7:07pm

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thedance said:

sounds fake..

Am I the only one thinking that.. question

I don't hear anything in there that doesn't sound like Prince from the past decade. Maybe not specifically 2006-2008, some of it sounds 3rd eye girl ish.

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Reply #39 posted 04/18/17 7:09pm

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God, I NEEDED this.
I Love U, But I Don't Trust U Anymore...
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Reply #40 posted 04/18/17 7:12pm

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Song sounds cool to me. But sucks that it's basically an unofficial bootleg. How did it make it on to iTunes?
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Reply #41 posted 04/18/17 7:12pm

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jaawwnn said:

thedance said:

sounds fake..

Am I the only one thinking that.. question

I don't hear anything in there that doesn't sound like Prince from the past decade. Maybe not specifically 2006-2008, some of it sounds 3rd eye girl ish.

Here's the info on the title track

http://princevault.com/index.php?title=Deliverance

Choir parts recorded sometime last year, under the watchful eye of the estate, I'm told by one of the members.

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Reply #42 posted 04/18/17 7:13pm

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TrcikyChristopher said:

jaawwnn said:

I don't hear anything in there that doesn't sound like Prince from the past decade. Maybe not specifically 2006-2008, some of it sounds 3rd eye girl ish.

Here's the info on the title track

http://princevault.com/index.php?title=Deliverance

Choir parts recorded sometime last year, under the watchful eye of the estate, I'm told by one of the members.

..then why the lawsuit??

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Reply #43 posted 04/18/17 7:15pm

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luvsexy4all said:

TrcikyChristopher said:

Here's the info on the title track

http://princevault.com/index.php?title=Deliverance

Choir parts recorded sometime last year, under the watchful eye of the estate, I'm told by one of the members.

..then why the lawsuit??

Because of the masters and the actual release. Probably nothing officially agreed to, especially after the initial Universal agreement.

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Reply #44 posted 04/18/17 7:15pm

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luvsexy4all said:



TrcikyChristopher said:




jaawwnn said:



I don't hear anything in there that doesn't sound like Prince from the past decade. Maybe not specifically 2006-2008, some of it sounds 3rd eye girl ish.



Here's the info on the title track



http://princevault.com/index.php?title=Deliverance



Choir parts recorded sometime last year, under the watchful eye of the estate, I'm told by one of the members.



..then why the lawsuit??


Because the Estate/Universal should be the ones releasing this?
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Reply #45 posted 04/18/17 7:16pm

EddieC

Okay, are you guys getting this from the princerogersnelson site? I'm just asking because I'm feeling nervous about using it, for some reason. Probably because I routinely feel nervous about giving information to almost any site, but still--it's not up on iTunes or anything more mainstream yet is it?

I mean, I'm intending to buy the thing--I'm just hoping to do so through some established entity (though I realize that might not ever happen, if the estate isn't down with it--so I can't wait too long before doing something, I guess).

Any more developed reviews/descriptions? I listened to the snippet of Deliverance on Pitchfork, and saw the other thread mentioning the extended I Am, but anyone else got more details?

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Reply #46 posted 04/18/17 7:17pm

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I havent heard the rest lf the tracks, but the song Deliverance sounds 100% Prince to me. The fake Prince dancing is tragic. Stop doing dumb shit. No impersonations. Never.
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Reply #47 posted 04/18/17 7:18pm

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It's on iTunes - but only in the US.

I mean if he did have sex he would break every rule Jehova's have regarding premarital sex so Prince is really just friends with them all anyway.
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Reply #48 posted 04/18/17 7:23pm

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rogifan said:

luvsexy4all said:

..then why the lawsuit??

Because the Estate/Universal should be the ones releasing this?

If the original agreement between the engineer meant that the Estate or Prince himself owned the master and controlled the release, then absolutely, the Estate or Universal should be the ones to release it.

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Reply #49 posted 04/18/17 7:23pm

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Ok......... I admit it DOES sound like Prince, on the song "Deliverance":

only that video, is so fake...

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Reply #50 posted 04/18/17 7:23pm

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EddieC said:

Okay, are you guys getting this from the princerogersnelson site? I'm just asking because I'm feeling nervous about using it, for some reason. Probably because I routinely feel nervous about giving information to almost any site, but still--it's not up on iTunes or anything more mainstream yet is it?

I mean, I'm intending to buy the thing--I'm just hoping to do so through some established entity (though I realize that might not ever happen, if the estate isn't down with it--so I can't wait too long before doing something, I guess).

Any more developed reviews/descriptions? I listened to the snippet of Deliverance on Pitchfork, and saw the other thread mentioning the extended I Am, but anyone else got more details?

Payments are processed by Stripe so you're not giving your financials to anyone but them. I felt a bit weird about it as well, especially since this is going against what Prince would have wanted, but then so is being on Spotify neutral

None of the other tracks are as good as Deliverance but still decent. There's some weird editing going on that makes all the tracks segue into each other, it's really like Deliverance and then one other long song in several parts. The extended I Am fades out fairly quick as well, I wonder if the entire thing wasn't one very long jam session edited together.

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Reply #51 posted 04/18/17 7:25pm

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EddieC said:

Okay, are you guys getting this from the princerogersnelson site? I'm just asking because I'm feeling nervous about using it, for some reason. Probably because I routinely feel nervous about giving information to almost any site, but still--it's not up on iTunes or anything more mainstream yet is it?

I mean, I'm intending to buy the thing--I'm just hoping to do so through some established entity (though I realize that might not ever happen, if the estate isn't down with it--so I can't wait too long before doing something, I guess).

Any more developed reviews/descriptions? I listened to the snippet of Deliverance on Pitchfork, and saw the other thread mentioning the extended I Am, but anyone else got more details?


I feel the same. I want to buy it, but I'm not an American resident anymore.

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Reply #52 posted 04/18/17 7:25pm

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The timing is interesting. hmmm

"Style is loving yourself 'til everyone else does too."
You certainly proved that Prince, beyond any doubt.
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Reply #53 posted 04/18/17 7:27pm

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I'm not buying it outright. If it comes off Apple Music oh well.
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Reply #54 posted 04/18/17 7:29pm

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Well this is weird, not sure whether I'll purchase as it seems a little shady but my curiosity is definitely piqued. So is the full EP available right now?
Heavenly wine and roses seems to whisper to me when you smile...
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Reply #55 posted 04/18/17 7:31pm

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EddieC said:

Okay, are you guys getting this from the princerogersnelson site? I'm just asking because I'm feeling nervous about using it, for some reason. Probably because I routinely feel nervous about giving information to almost any site, but still--it's not up on iTunes or anything more mainstream yet is it?

I mean, I'm intending to buy the thing--I'm just hoping to do so through some established entity (though I realize that might not ever happen, if the estate isn't down with it--so I can't wait too long before doing something, I guess).

Any more developed reviews/descriptions? I listened to the snippet of Deliverance on Pitchfork, and saw the other thread mentioning the extended I Am, but anyone else got more details?

I bought it fromprincerogersnelson.com.

I paid for FLAC files which are terribly overpriced. Don't do it. $19.99 for FLAC vs $6.99 for MP3.

Here's the track list and times. The tracks sound excellent from a sound quality soundpoint, but they're quite short:


Deliverance
3:45

I Am (Extended) 3:50

I Am 2:25

No One Else 2:53

Sunrise Sunset 1:13

Touch Me 1:49


I haven't listened to each in enough detail to warrant a description, but this is definitely the real thing.

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Reply #56 posted 04/18/17 7:33pm

jjam

Legally, without some agreement with Prince he can produce to validate the release, he is in trouble. Aggregators are pretty hot on that, so he could find himself sued by the estate, various digital services like iTunes et al and the aggregator.

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Reply #57 posted 04/18/17 7:34pm

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Moonbeam said:

EddieC said:

Okay, are you guys getting this from the princerogersnelson site? I'm just asking because I'm feeling nervous about using it, for some reason. Probably because I routinely feel nervous about giving information to almost any site, but still--it's not up on iTunes or anything more mainstream yet is it?

I mean, I'm intending to buy the thing--I'm just hoping to do so through some established entity (though I realize that might not ever happen, if the estate isn't down with it--so I can't wait too long before doing something, I guess).

Any more developed reviews/descriptions? I listened to the snippet of Deliverance on Pitchfork, and saw the other thread mentioning the extended I Am, but anyone else got more details?


I feel the same. I want to buy it, but I'm not an American resident anymore.

It's just a button to check that verifies you're in the U.S. There is nothing that actually checks your location.

This seems like the kind of thing that Apple would find out about and remove very quickly if it ever makes it to Apple Music or iTunes. So, I bought it.

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Reply #58 posted 04/18/17 7:36pm

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Moonbeam said:

EddieC said:

Okay, are you guys getting this from the princerogersnelson site? I'm just asking because I'm feeling nervous about using it, for some reason. Probably because I routinely feel nervous about giving information to almost any site, but still--it's not up on iTunes or anything more mainstream yet is it?

I mean, I'm intending to buy the thing--I'm just hoping to do so through some established entity (though I realize that might not ever happen, if the estate isn't down with it--so I can't wait too long before doing something, I guess).

Any more developed reviews/descriptions? I listened to the snippet of Deliverance on Pitchfork, and saw the other thread mentioning the extended I Am, but anyone else got more details?


I feel the same. I want to buy it, but I'm not an American resident anymore.

I bought it from the UK in the princerogersnelson website. It's downloaded fine, and hopefuly they won't take all my money and my savings...

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Reply #59 posted 04/18/17 7:39pm

EddieC

Boy, that is short. I thought the difference in price for FLAC vs mp3 was steep, but I hate to not have lossless (almost everything else I have of Prince is... but there are exceptions, so I'll probably go with mp3 in the end.

Thanks for the responses, everyone!

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