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Reply #30 posted 04/18/17 6:39pm

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ufoclub said:

You all really think that's Sheila E's voice?

I did at first, then I didn't, now I"m just confused!!!

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Reply #31 posted 04/18/17 8:00pm

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You all really think that's Sheila E's voice?

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'Yes', if you dismiss the heavily processed vocals padded/beefed up by other nameless singers (a Paula Abdul 'Forever Your Girl' era trick). A cursory looking over of the other tracks from the same compilation, 'Girls of the 80's', reveals that the attributions of singers on the other tracks are accurate. Therefore, I wouldn't disbelieve that it is Sheila, with caveats.

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https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/girls-of-the-80s/id866452884

[Edited 4/18/17 20:04pm]

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Reply #32 posted 04/18/17 8:14pm

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imprimis said:

ufoclub said:

You all really think that's Sheila E's voice?

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'Yes', if you dismiss the heavily processed vocals padded/beefed up by other nameless singers (a Paula Abdul 'Forever Your Girl' era trick). A cursory looking over of the other tracks from the same compilation, 'Girls of the 80's', reveals that the attributions of singers on the other tracks are accurate. Therefore, I wouldn't disbelieve that it is Sheila, with caveats.

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https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/girls-of-the-80s/id866452884

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Wait you think they hired all those artists/singer stars to re-record their vocals? Bonnie Tyler? Kim Karnes? Salt and Peppa??? That seems like a stretch for some unknown compilation album project. Seems more likely this is a soundalike cover album. Can you imagine how much money the record companies for all those acts would take right up front? More than such a generic soundalike album could ever hope to make, ( they tried to get the real vocalists).

And the vocals on this particular track sound like an imitator to me. We've heard Sheila E's voice all over the place, even just talking. It seems off.

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Reply #33 posted 04/18/17 8:23pm

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I don't think that artists should do this.When I purchase a song,I want the original song that I know and love.I don't like to be cheated....and yes,my ears can tell when it's not the real thing wink hopefully,Sheila had nothing to do with this lame re-recording
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Reply #34 posted 04/18/17 8:23pm

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Ha ha... I was listening to other tracks on the album as previewed on itunes... FAKE! They even get the names wrong... like Tiffany is supposed to be singing "Oh Mickey" Shannon is singing "Sex Shooter" or The Motels are singing "Sweet Dreams (Are Made Of This)"

It's some kind of bootleg.

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Reply #35 posted 04/18/17 8:29pm

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ufoclub said:

imprimis said:

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'Yes', if you dismiss the heavily processed vocals padded/beefed up by other nameless singers (a Paula Abdul 'Forever Your Girl' era trick). A cursory looking over of the other tracks from the same compilation, 'Girls of the 80's', reveals that the attributions of singers on the other tracks are accurate. Therefore, I wouldn't disbelieve that it is Sheila, with caveats.

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https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/girls-of-the-80s/id866452884

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Wait you think they hired all those artists/singer stars to re-record their vocals? Bonnie Tyler? Kim Karnes? Salt and Peppa??? That seems like a stretch for some unknown compilation album project. Seems more likely this is a soundalike cover album. Can you imagine how much money the record companies for all those acts would take right up front? More than such a generic soundalike album could ever hope to make, ( they tried to get the real vocalists).

And the vocals on this particular track sound like an imitator to me. We've heard Sheila E's voice all over the place, even just talking. It seems off.

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Yes (essentially). As well remembered as they may be from their halcyon days, these artists are decidedly 'B' in recent memory. Please listen to excerpts from this compilation on YT to get a better sense of whether these are merely imitators or something of a washed-up cash-in. They tried to give it some edge (or cover up for the absence of other missing B-listers) by having some of the participants switch up on what should have been some of the better or more provocative material (The Motels' Martha Davis on 'Sweet Dreams Are Made of These', Tiffany on 'Hey Mickey', Shannon on 'Sex Shooter'). Most of these were likely independently made sometime during the 00's, and an enterpriser later decided obtain the distribution privileges to compile these. These free-standing re-recordings, designed to sweep in misled, stray $0.99 iTunes and Amazon MP3 purchases, to inflate streaming services' available offerings, etc. are here together in all their ingloriousness. A Faustian, unholy pact among faded 80s starlets (or the interests that recruited them for re-recordings).

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[Edited 4/18/17 21:55pm]

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Reply #36 posted 04/18/17 8:30pm

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A similar compilation stemming from the same invisible hands:

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https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/new-wave-divas/id263593795

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This is another revenue stream for the barely relevant, and likely pays quite a bit more handsomely, albeit on a more modest scale, than random airtime royalties for the original recordings.

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Irate consumers lured into purchasing these (or the individual tracks), those who have any connection to the material and not embarrassed to admit to themselves that they've been duped, may well end up paying again when correcting their earlier decision and buying the original recordings-- another prospective coin in the jar. And the ~$0.99 is too small to be a meaningful chargeback or excess-refunds risk to the marketplaces. (Not that the average feckless listener would go to such extremes to recover their losses).

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Reply #37 posted 04/19/17 6:32am

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imprimis said:

ufoclub said:

Wait you think they hired all those artists/singer stars to re-record their vocals? Bonnie Tyler? Kim Karnes? Salt and Peppa??? That seems like a stretch for some unknown compilation album project. Seems more likely this is a soundalike cover album. Can you imagine how much money the record companies for all those acts would take right up front? More than such a generic soundalike album could ever hope to make, ( they tried to get the real vocalists).

And the vocals on this particular track sound like an imitator to me. We've heard Sheila E's voice all over the place, even just talking. It seems off.

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Yes (essentially). As well remembered as they may be from their halcyon days, these artists are decidedly 'B' in recent memory. Please listen to excerpts from this compilation on YT to get a better sense of whether these are merely imitators or something of a washed-up cash-in. They tried to give it some edge (or cover up for the absence of other missing B-listers) by having some of the participants switch up on what should have been some of the better or more provocative material (The Motels' Martha Davis on 'Sweet Dreams Are Made of These', Tiffany on 'Hey Mickey', Shannon on 'Sex Shooter'). Most of these were likely independently made sometime during the 00's, and an enterpriser later decided obtain the distribution privileges to compile these. These free-standing re-recordings, designed to sweep in misled, stray $0.99 iTunes and Amazon MP3 purchases, to inflate streaming services' available offerings, etc. are here together in all their ingloriousness. A Faustian, unholy pact among faded 80s starlets (or the interests that recruited them for re-recordings).

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[Edited 4/18/17 21:55pm]

Well, it's definitley Irene Cara's voice. And Bernadette Cooper on Klymaxx (though the other female voices don't sound the same). Salt n Pepa do NOT sound like them.

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I can't believe Sheila would've done this.

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Reply #38 posted 04/19/17 6:45am

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You all really think that's Sheila E's voice?

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Yeah, I don't hear anything to convince me. Is it possible? Sure. Is it likely? Doubtful. There's a whole cottage industry of these "sound-alikes" and I don't see why Sheila would bother with this considering she seems to be earning plenty.

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Reply #39 posted 04/19/17 7:16am

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Many artists re-record their classic tracks for compilations, movies, video games, commercials, etc...

It's a way for them to maximize profit from licenses as they can avoid sharing the royalties with people who own a piece of the original recordings.

Maybe this is one of those?

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Reply #40 posted 04/19/17 9:12am

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Ha ha... I tried to track the cover /recording history of the song and found this:
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Reply #41 posted 04/19/17 9:15am

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I'mma side-eye that... lol

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Reply #42 posted 04/19/17 9:19am

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This is a fake, that is NOT Prince in the background, get a good headset, it is very very obvious.

I cannot speak to the music itself, perhaps it was an instrumental that some jokers decided to put their vocals on.The music seems legit though, perhaps an instrumental that leaked out somewhere or someone had. If not, it is a VERY good duplication of the original. But again, there are no Prince vocals on this, whoever tried to be Prince did a pretty bad job.

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Reply #43 posted 04/19/17 9:29am

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Yeah, it's not her or him. Case closed. lock

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Reply #44 posted 04/19/17 6:10pm

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GaryMF said:



imprimis said:




ufoclub said:




Wait you think they hired all those artists/singer stars to re-record their vocals? Bonnie Tyler? Kim Karnes? Salt and Peppa??? That seems like a stretch for some unknown compilation album project. Seems more likely this is a soundalike cover album. Can you imagine how much money the record companies for all those acts would take right up front? More than such a generic soundalike album could ever hope to make, ( they tried to get the real vocalists).



And the vocals on this particular track sound like an imitator to me. We've heard Sheila E's voice all over the place, even just talking. It seems off.



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Yes (essentially). As well remembered as they may be from their halcyon days, these artists are decidedly 'B' in recent memory. Please listen to excerpts from this compilation on YT to get a better sense of whether these are merely imitators or something of a washed-up cash-in. They tried to give it some edge (or cover up for the absence of other missing B-listers) by having some of the participants switch up on what should have been some of the better or more provocative material (The Motels' Martha Davis on 'Sweet Dreams Are Made of These', Tiffany on 'Hey Mickey', Shannon on 'Sex Shooter'). Most of these were likely independently made sometime during the 00's, and an enterpriser later decided obtain the distribution privileges to compile these. These free-standing re-recordings, designed to sweep in misled, stray $0.99 iTunes and Amazon MP3 purchases, to inflate streaming services' available offerings, etc. are here together in all their ingloriousness. A Faustian, unholy pact among faded 80s starlets (or the interests that recruited them for re-recordings).


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Well, it's definitley Irene Cara's voice. And Bernadette Cooper on Klymaxx (though the other female voices don't sound the same). Salt n Pepa do NOT sound like them.


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I can't believe Sheila would've done this.



If you look at the track list not all of the songs are "re-recorded".
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Reply #45 posted 04/19/17 6:30pm

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KlyphIsBackAgain said:

GaryMF said:

Well, it's definitley Irene Cara's voice. And Bernadette Cooper on Klymaxx (though the other female voices don't sound the same). Salt n Pepa do NOT sound like them.

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I can't believe Sheila would've done this.

If you look at the track list not all of the songs are "re-recorded".

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The songs "covered", as it were, by other 80s/early 90s B-Listers, are the only ones free from the "live" or "re-recorded" mark (or, as I perceive it, a minimum notice requirement to facilitate selling these dubious tracks without an accusation of fraud).

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I disagree that it is a 'fake', however. I believe Sheila and her management fully authorized and/or participated in this, even if her vocal contributions are minimal among the shopped-out final product.

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Anyone familiar with her speaking voice should be able to detect her vocal peculiarities, ones that would be unlikely to have anyone sensitive or caring enough to bother to imitate for something like this.

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Comparing recent live performances of some of these artists on YT would also help get a better feel for whether the rest of the tracks are merely 'sound-alikes'. 20-30 years + cigarette/drug/alcohol use and abuse/surgeries/weight changes/being out of the limelight can result in appreciable changes. Not to mention that the bar hasn't been set very high for quality on these (although the instrumental arrangement on this one isn't shabby).

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I can accept, and am not surprised, at such a relatively low-minded cash-grab.

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[Edited 4/19/17 20:10pm]

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Reply #46 posted 04/19/17 8:13pm

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it's just what it says, a "re-recording" - most likely by someone who dug thru all their sounds and matched the song as best they could. there's plenty of these out there. i'm surprised at some of you. razz

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Reply #47 posted 04/20/17 8:30am

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Why not ask Sheila E?

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