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Reply #300 posted 04/02/17 2:45am

kmama07

purplerabbithole said:

I can not read Kirk at all. He seems like either a clueless shill for the PP family/enabler or truely traumatized and attempting to be respectful of P's privacy.



He doesn't come off too bright, but then again, it could be his nerves. But he seems a bit he was the Lenny in Mice of Men to Prince's George. LOL>





falloff wonderful analogy!
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Reply #301 posted 04/02/17 3:21am

kmama07

ladygirl99 said:



PeteSilas said:




ladygirl99 said:



You are one of my favorite posters on here I like reading your posts. I agree there are strangeness going around with Prince's death. I was told info but I am just an outsider and UNLIKE some other I-don't-have-a-life-outside-the-org-and-obssessed-with-a-dead-man-that never-met-who-shall-remain -nameless-trolls, I know my place as a fan. When it comes to money and legacy, people continue to act buck crazy by covering up the truth.


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why thank you ladygirl, I honestly don't think anything is impossible and so shouldn't be excluded because it's farfetched, i wasn't shy about mentioning my aids/suicide theory, even though i realize it's most likely wrong.



You welcome. It is hard talking deep stuff on the org because people here are too close-minded and conservative here.



And also as far as AIds/suicide I wont even go into that topic in this place anymore thanks to ignorant people. Luckily I found the right people outside this place discussed what actually happened to Prince. Too many close-minded people on here.


I am not sure what Kirk J's role with this death but maybe his lawyer told him not to talk about it during the investigating.



Is anyone else surprised his lawyer allowed him to do interview in the first place? I haven't seen it but think it's silly as he's kept so quiet up until now. They must have known interviewer would veer off script. It's part of the job when there is a big story like this with so many unanswered questions.
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Reply #302 posted 04/02/17 4:27am

disch

You don't know for sure that either statement is true (although to me the first one seems fairly likely). But the presence of fentanyl isn't what might make charges applicable. If the drugs he took were illegally provided to him (from
The black market) THATS where the crime occurred. It's not just the fact that the drugs also contained s different opioid (fentanyl) than what the acquirer of the illegal opioids (prince) may have thought.
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I'm nit sure everyone here realize fentanyl is an opioid that some people intentionally take (both legally and illegally). It's not exactly a poison (like cyanide or something)

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

He did not know those fake stamped pills contained fentanyl. Homicide is homicide someone knew the pills were laced and it wasn't Prince.
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Reply #303 posted 04/02/17 5:39am

rogifan

sonshine said:

purplethunder3121 said:



rogifan said:


purplethunder3121 said:

Oy vey.



I'm just waiting for someone to blame his death on chemtrails. lol

shhh It's the Illuminati... hmm


It was the Russian billionaire dammit hammer
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I forgot about him. All roads lead back to the billionaires, right? lol
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Reply #304 posted 04/02/17 7:01am

purplepoppy

kmama07 said:

purplerabbithole said:

I can not read Kirk at all. He seems like either a clueless shill for the PP family/enabler or truely traumatized and attempting to be respectful of P's privacy.

He doesn't come off too bright, but then again, it could be his nerves. But he seems a bit he was the Lenny in Mice of Men to Prince's George. LOL>

falloff wonderful analogy!



Please explain why this is a wonderful analogy and how Kirk is Lenny and Prince is George? George killed Lenny because Lenny was killing animals and then moved on to girls. WTF?

Brand new boogie without the hero.
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Reply #305 posted 04/02/17 8:05am

kmama07

purplepoppy said:



kmama07 said:


purplerabbithole said:

I can not read Kirk at all. He seems like either a clueless shill for the PP family/enabler or truely traumatized and attempting to be respectful of P's privacy.



He doesn't come off too bright, but then again, it could be his nerves. But he seems a bit he was the Lenny in Mice of Men to Prince's George. LOL>





falloff wonderful analogy!



Please explain why this is a wonderful analogy and how Kirk is Lenny and Prince is George? George killed Lenny because Lenny was killing animals and then moved on to girls. WTF?


I wasn't speaking to the entire plot of the book...OR to "Prince's George". I was merely speaking to the generalization of Lenny's character. Lenny was a simpleton. Purplerabbithole likened Kirk's interview presence to Lenny. I thought the analogy was funny. Still do.
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Reply #306 posted 04/02/17 8:42am

purplepoppy

kmama07 said:

purplepoppy said:



Please explain why this is a wonderful analogy and how Kirk is Lenny and Prince is George? George killed Lenny because Lenny was killing animals and then moved on to girls. WTF?

I wasn't speaking to the entire plot of the book...OR to "Prince's George". I was merely speaking to the generalization of Lenny's character. Lenny was a simpleton. Purplerabbithole likened Kirk's interview presence to Lenny. I thought the analogy was funny. Still do.

wow, ugh.

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Reply #307 posted 04/02/17 9:07am

bashraka

kmama07 said:

ladygirl99 said:

You welcome. It is hard talking deep stuff on the org because people here are too close-minded and conservative here.

And also as far as AIds/suicide I wont even go into that topic in this place anymore thanks to ignorant people. Luckily I found the right people outside this place discussed what actually happened to Prince. Too many close-minded people on here.

I am not sure what Kirk J's role with this death but maybe his lawyer told him not to talk about it during the investigating.

Is anyone else surprised his lawyer allowed him to do interview in the first place? I haven't seen it but think it's silly as he's kept so quiet up until now. They must have known interviewer would veer off script. It's part of the job when there is a big story like this with so many unanswered questions.

I was actually shocked to see Kirk Johnson interviewed, especially when I saw the interview was done by CBS, a news network known for their investigative journalism. Trevor Guy, members of 3RDEYEGIRL, Shelby, Londell McMillian all would have made better candidates to be interviewed to promote the Celebration Of Prince's Legacy events at Paisley Park on April 21 because 1) they have more experience working with media, answering questions diplomatically 2) Kirk is too close to Prince's death to actually give denials to piercing questions about Prince's alleged drug use and not sound or look guilty. 3) Kirk made himself a target for crazy Prince fan conspiracy theorists to focus their crazy energies on him. Very few people in the general public heard him talk, so being out of the spotlight was valuable.

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Reply #308 posted 04/02/17 9:07am

purplerabbitho
le

Lighten up folks. I know the plot of Of Mice and Men. I have even taught it. Lenny's naivete and inappropriate cheerfulness in the face of dire circumstances are what reminded me of Kirk's interview. He indeed may be traumatized and uncomfortable in interviews that throw curveballs at him. But he presense was weird.

I don't know what to think about this man. He was with Prince for 30 years, seemed loyal but something still seems off. I would hate to think that Kirk was just a 30 year enabler. How sad would that be?

purplepoppy said:

kmama07 said:

purplepoppy said: I wasn't speaking to the entire plot of the book...OR to "Prince's George". I was merely speaking to the generalization of Lenny's character. Lenny was a simpleton. Purplerabbithole likened Kirk's interview presence to Lenny. I thought the analogy was funny. Still do.

wow, ugh.

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Reply #309 posted 04/02/17 1:37pm

laurarichardso
n

No proof that he was a 30 year enabler since no proof Prince was doing anything 30 years ago but working his ass off and Kirk made an apperence in PR and then does not turn up until 91. Even Tony M said that he was told they would be going on the PR tour but Prince changed his mind and they did not hear from him until years later.

I think Kirk got a job with Prince because he gave jobs out to a lot of guys and girls from the old neighborhood. He did not forget where he came from

purplerabbithole said:

Lighten up folks. I know the plot of Of Mice and Men. I have even taught it. Lenny's naivete and inappropriate cheerfulness in the face of dire circumstances are what reminded me of Kirk's interview. He indeed may be traumatized and uncomfortable in interviews that throw curveballs at him. But he presense was weird.

I don't know what to think about this man. He was with Prince for 30 years, seemed loyal but something still seems off. I would hate to think that Kirk was just a 30 year enabler. How sad would that be?

purplepoppy said:

wow, ugh.

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Reply #310 posted 04/02/17 2:24pm

AnnaSantana

FlyOnTheWall said:

Kirk should have remained silent. I know that he was probably nervous, but this interview is devastating. He needs a media coach.

Yeah, he seems like a simp; not that bright. lol

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Reply #311 posted 04/02/17 5:20pm

Mumio

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AnnaSantana said:

Yeah, he seems like a simp; not that bright. lol



eek

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Reply #312 posted 04/02/17 5:24pm

purplepoppy

Mumio said:

AnnaSantana said:

Yeah, he seems like a simp; not that bright. lol



eek

What some of y'all are reading into that video clip is ridicul-azz.

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Reply #313 posted 04/02/17 5:45pm

herb4

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gingerwildwood said:

eek eek eek How did this thread get on to pederasty and pedophilia? Isn't it supposed to be about Kirk? Did I miss something? shake

You missed about 10 or 20 threads that got locked because a disturbingly large amount of people who post here appear to be crazy.

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Reply #314 posted 04/02/17 5:46pm

herb4

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Kirk sounded like someone who told the interviewer ahead of time that he wasn't going to answer certain questions and she asked them anyway.

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Reply #315 posted 04/02/17 6:10pm

PurpleDiamonds
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herb4 said:



gingerwildwood said:


eek eek eek How did this thread get on to pederasty and pedophilia? Isn't it supposed to be about Kirk? Did I miss something? shake




You missed about 10 or 20 threads that got locked because a disturbingly large amount of people who post here appear to be crazy.


eek it always seemed to happen when you posted wink
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Reply #316 posted 04/02/17 6:12pm

BillieBalloon

MMJas said:

Concerning the suicide theory, which I find very hard to believe: what would make the police immediately confirm it was not a suicide? Isn't it the coroner the person supposed to be able to actually confirm that?




Usually with suicides there is curcumstantial evidence. Maybe there wasnt enough to draw a conclusion of suicide.
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Reply #317 posted 04/02/17 6:18pm

laurarichardso
n

The police think it was accidental because test the day before did not show fentanyl in his system. I am also sure the ME could tell if he was a long term user of this Fentenyl and determine what he had been using by test she ran. You can tell if someone is a long term drinker or coke head by examination of their bodies so I am sure they could tell if he had been using Fentenyl for a long period of time or beyond that one night. I firmly believe the police have combed through all of his medical records going back years they would now his medical history and what he has actually prescribed and what sort of surgery he even had. They have his backstory pieced together and came to the conclusion that he did not mean to take this stuff. They have already admitted that their are suspects.

disch said:

You don't know for sure that either statement is true (although to me the first one seems fairly likely). But the presence of fentanyl isn't what might make charges applicable. If the drugs he took were illegally provided to him (from The black market) THATS where the crime occurred. It's not just the fact that the drugs also contained s different opioid (fentanyl) than what the acquirer of the illegal opioids (prince) may have thought. - I'm nit sure everyone here realize fentanyl is an opioid that some people intentionally take (both legally and illegally). It's not exactly a poison (like cyanide or something) PurpleDiamonds1 said:
He did not know those fake stamped pills contained fentanyl. Homicide is homicide someone knew the pills were laced and it wasn't Prince.

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Reply #318 posted 04/02/17 6:19pm

fortuneandsere
ndipity

herb4 said:

gingerwildwood said:

eek eek eek How did this thread get on to pederasty and pedophilia? Isn't it supposed to be about Kirk? Did I miss something? shake

You missed about 10 or 20 threads that got locked because a disturbingly large amount of people who post here appear to be crazy.

smile

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Reply #319 posted 04/02/17 6:24pm

fortuneandsere
ndipity

herb4 said:

gingerwildwood said:

eek eek eek How did this thread get on to pederasty and pedophilia? Isn't it supposed to be about Kirk? Did I miss something? shake

You missed about 10 or 20 threads that got locked because a disturbingly large amount of people who post here appear to be crazy.

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Reply #320 posted 04/02/17 6:32pm

PeteSilas

herb4 said:



gingerwildwood said:


eek eek eek How did this thread get on to pederasty and pedophilia? Isn't it supposed to be about Kirk? Did I miss something? shake




You missed about 10 or 20 threads that got locked because a disturbingly large amount of people who post here appear to be crazy.


I'm crazy because we discussed something out of the thread topic? OK whatever.
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Reply #321 posted 04/02/17 6:35pm

laurarichardso
n

ladygirl99 said:

laurarichardson said:

ladygirl99 said: --Warner Bros records is not owned by Tine Warner anymore it WB music us owned by a private equity group that is owned by some Russian dude they seem incompetent as far as marketing music but I do not believe these had anything to do with his death. I firmly belived he got these drugs from someone he knew and trusted.

Nevertheless the industry is very small and while people on here dismissing TMZ and adding their fantasies, I bet they are sitting info of what happened to Prince. Harvey is/was a still lawyer, he make sure his Is are dotted and ts crossed before he stories released on his platform.

Good lord women some janitor at the hospital told TMZ he was there. It has nothing to do with anything but TMZ offering people cash to rat. Some of you think Prince was paranoid and wrong for being private he knew rats were out there ready to sell their own grandmas for a buck.

Some butthole was following him to the Walgreen were he filled real Rxs but TMZ said he was acting suspcioius they had no idea what they were talking about because some greedy butt head fed them the wrong info. It is about paying people to rat.

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Reply #322 posted 04/02/17 6:38pm

laurarichardso
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laurarichardson said:

ladygirl99 said:

Nevertheless the industry is very small and while people on here dismissing TMZ and adding their fantasies, I bet they are sitting info of what happened to Prince. Harvey is/was a still lawyer, he make sure his Is are dotted and ts crossed before he stories released on his platform.

Good lord women some janitor at the hospital told TMZ he was there. It has nothing to do with anything but TMZ offering people cash to rat. Some of you think Prince was paranoid and wrong for being private he knew rats were out there ready to sell their own grandmas for a buck.

Some butthole was following him to the Walgreen were he filled real Rxs but TMZ said he was acting suspcioius they had no idea what they were talking about because some greedy butt head fed them the wrong info. It is about paying people to rat. But you think Liberace and Scott were a nice gay couple rolleyes

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Reply #323 posted 04/02/17 7:41pm

NotACleverName

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laurarichardson said:

The police think it was accidental because test the day before did not show fentanyl in his system. I am also sure the ME could tell if he was a long term user of this Fentenyl and determine what he had been using by test she ran. You can tell if someone is a long term drinker or coke head by examination of their bodies so I am sure they could tell if he had been using Fentenyl for a long period of time or beyond that one night. I firmly believe the police have combed through all of his medical records going back years they would now his medical history and what he has actually prescribed and what sort of surgery he even had. They have his backstory pieced together and came to the conclusion that he did not mean to take this stuff. They have already admitted that their are suspects.



disch said:


You don't know for sure that either statement is true (although to me the first one seems fairly likely). But the presence of fentanyl isn't what might make charges applicable. If the drugs he took were illegally provided to him (from The black market) THATS where the crime occurred. It's not just the fact that the drugs also contained s different opioid (fentanyl) than what the acquirer of the illegal opioids (prince) may have thought. - I'm nit sure everyone here realize fentanyl is an opioid that some people intentionally take (both legally and illegally). It's not exactly a poison (like cyanide or something) PurpleDiamonds1 said:
He did not know those fake stamped pills contained fentanyl. Homicide is homicide someone knew the pills were laced and it wasn't Prince.



Fentaynl is processed through the body fairly quickly. While variables (individual factors, dosage, frequency and term of administration) affect the elimination, about 4 days is the longest amount of time it took for the body to eliminate all traces in one study group. Info found here: http://mentalhealthdaily....ur-system/

Conceivably, Prince could have (unknowingly?) ingested fentanyl via the mislabeled pills after the Atlanta show. This was a week prior to the fatal dose. His system would have been "clean" when tests were conducted on April 20.

Interestingly, no one has mentioned this but I have wondered how much (if any) of a role Chaka's dependency to fentanyl and her relationship w/Prince played into his alleged drug use. They were friends and musical collaborators for many years. Hasn't anyone else thought about this? The fact that she entered rehab shortly after Prince passed seems way too coincidental for me.

I have beliefs, too as they relate to this sad, sad event. Doesn't make them truths, though. One belief I have is that Kirk knows how all this went down...no way I'm going to ever think he doesn't; however, he is under no obligation to reveal any details for public consumption. Ever.
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Reply #324 posted 04/02/17 8:09pm

laurarichardso
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You are discounting what the ME came up with. ME is saying the Fentenyl was in his body sometime that night. She has some reason to think that. You are right he could have had Fentenyl in his system on the plane but like I said we have been fed info from TMZ but once again the ME would have access to whatever test he had in Moline. So they know what happend on that plane.

NotACleverName said:

laurarichardson said:

The police think it was accidental because test the day before did not show fentanyl in his system. I am also sure the ME could tell if he was a long term user of this Fentenyl and determine what he had been using by test she ran. You can tell if someone is a long term drinker or coke head by examination of their bodies so I am sure they could tell if he had been using Fentenyl for a long period of time or beyond that one night. I firmly believe the police have combed through all of his medical records going back years they would now his medical history and what he has actually prescribed and what sort of surgery he even had. They have his backstory pieced together and came to the conclusion that he did not mean to take this stuff. They have already admitted that their are suspects.

Fentaynl is processed through the body fairly quickly. While variables (individual factors, dosage, frequency and term of administration) affect the elimination, about 4 days is the longest amount of time it took for the body to eliminate all traces in one study group. Info found here: http://mentalhealthdaily....ur-system/ Conceivably, Prince could have (unknowingly?) ingested fentanyl via the mislabeled pills after the Atlanta show. This was a week prior to the fatal dose. His system would have been "clean" when tests were conducted on April 20. Interestingly, no one has mentioned this but I have wondered how much (if any) of a role Chaka's dependency to fentanyl and her relationship w/Prince played into his alleged drug use. They were friends and musical collaborators for many years. Hasn't anyone else thought about this? The fact that she entered rehab shortly after Prince passed seems way too coincidental for me. I have beliefs, too as they relate to this sad, sad event. Doesn't make them truths, though. One belief I have is that Kirk knows how all this went down...no way I'm going to ever think he doesn't; however, he is under no obligation to reveal any details for public consumption. Ever.

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Reply #325 posted 04/02/17 8:50pm

206Michelle

NotACleverName said:

laurarichardson said:

The police think it was accidental because test the day before did not show fentanyl in his system. I am also sure the ME could tell if he was a long term user of this Fentenyl and determine what he had been using by test she ran. You can tell if someone is a long term drinker or coke head by examination of their bodies so I am sure they could tell if he had been using Fentenyl for a long period of time or beyond that one night. I firmly believe the police have combed through all of his medical records going back years they would now his medical history and what he has actually prescribed and what sort of surgery he even had. They have his backstory pieced together and came to the conclusion that he did not mean to take this stuff. They have already admitted that their are suspects.

Fentaynl is processed through the body fairly quickly. While variables (individual factors, dosage, frequency and term of administration) affect the elimination, about 4 days is the longest amount of time it took for the body to eliminate all traces in one study group. Info found here: http://mentalhealthdaily....ur-system/ Conceivably, Prince could have (unknowingly?) ingested fentanyl via the mislabeled pills after the Atlanta show. This was a week prior to the fatal dose. His system would have been "clean" when tests were conducted on April 20. Interestingly, no one has mentioned this but I have wondered how much (if any) of a role Chaka's dependency to fentanyl and her relationship w/Prince played into his alleged drug use. They were friends and musical collaborators for many years. Hasn't anyone else thought about this? The fact that she entered rehab shortly after Prince passed seems way too coincidental for me. I have beliefs, too as they relate to this sad, sad event. Doesn't make them truths, though. One belief I have is that Kirk knows how all this went down...no way I'm going to ever think he doesn't; however, he is under no obligation to reveal any details for public consumption. Ever.

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Reply #326 posted 04/03/17 8:31am

gingerwildwood

206Michelle said:

NotACleverName said:

One belief I have is that Kirk knows how all this went down...no way I'm going to ever think he doesn't; however, he is under no obligation to reveal any details for public consumption. Ever.

yeahthat

I will never be convinced that Kirk DIDN'T get him that stuff. Of course he knows what happened but he doesn'twant to incriminate himself. Kirk's a fool if he thinks most people can't see through him.

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Reply #327 posted 04/03/17 10:13am

Bassette

Maybe Kirk knows something, but. . . . . he wasn't Prince's babysitter.

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Reply #328 posted 04/03/17 10:37am

laurarichardso
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Bassette said:

Maybe Kirk knows something, but. . . . . he wasn't Prince's babysitter.

Law enforcement will decide what he knows. If Kirk did do anything he is responsible for his actions.

[Edited 4/3/17 10:38am]

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Reply #329 posted 04/03/17 11:07am

Bassette

Yes Laura! ( Yes. You ARE a goalkeeper!!) If he actually gave Prince those mislabeled pills. But he also might have been unaware. Then how is law enforcmement going to decide what his guilt in this situation is. They were friends. People can't blame him for being a friend! At this moment Prince is like an imploding star, dragging everyone who ever involved with him into a black hole.

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