When Prince was alive he made sure people around him never talked with the media!

This right here is the reason why! Kirk should have just kept silent and lets hope he continues to do so

2020 said:

When Prince was alive he made sure people around him never talked with the media!

This right here is the reason why!

Could you please calrify what you mean.

--Because they aren't media savvy? Because they look stupid trying to avoid obvious questions? Because Prince made them tell obvious lies like, "NO we aren't fking." and " NO really we write are own material and Prince let's us do what we like." Maybe Kirk comes off as shady because he looks and acts shady. As a person who signed up with a very specific kind of attorney and is playing dumb about things he surely knows. Oh and he jumped right into cooperating with the investigation so he could not be forced to testify about things that would most certainly incriminate him.

gingerwildwood said:

rogifan said:

Link?

803 said:

Maybe I missed this but doesn't the relationship between Kirk and Prince go back to at least 1970? Hahn refers to a video of Prince with a bunch of kids at a summer camp in 1970. He says that the camera pans to Keith johnson, his future wife, and Keith's younger brother Kirk. Hahn says that Keith went on to officiate at maytes and princes wedding. If this has been referenced...never mind..carry on😊

it's very simple - just - copy & paste.

803 said:

I'm not sure how to link...it is in the epilogue of Alex Hahns "the rise of Prince", c.2017

MD431Madcat said:

This is all so damn simple..

Who was closest to Prince?

Who drove him to Walgreens?

Why did Prince need to go? to get medication for What?

Why was a sick man left alone on the evening of April 20th 2016?

Who was last with him?

If we could get those answers i think we'd be much closer to the TRUTH!

hmmm....? who might have most of the answers above?

the answers are in the kirk johnson vault. Hey...the time for all the snarky deceiving misleading talk is over kirk johnson. don't you get that? especially after that interview, you look like the most guilty individual on the planet, don't you get that? what kind of an idiot ok'd you to do that interview?

MD431Madcat said:

it's very simple - just - copy & paste.

803 said:

I'm not sure how to link...it is in the epilogue of Alex Hahns "the rise of Prince", c.2017

A link should do.

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laurarichardson said:

rogifan said:

rogifan said:

gingerwildwood said:

Could you please calrify what you mean.

--Because they aren't media savvy? Because they look stupid trying to avoid obvious questions? Because Prince made them tell obvious lies like, "NO we aren't fking." and " NO really we write are own material and Prince let's us do what we like." Maybe Kirk comes off as shady because he looks and acts shady. As a person who signed up with a very specific kind of attorney and is playing dumb about things he surely knows. Oh and he jumped right into cooperating with the investigation so he could not be forced to testify about things that would most certainly incriminate him.

That's a pretty serious allegation you're making there...

I believe that there is no way that Kirk is not, in some part cupable, in obtaining the counterfeit tablets for Prince. I do not believe Kirk was there when Prince took the tablets and died.

gingerwildwood said:

If Kirk is 100% innocent - Lord Forgive me..

But, Kirk Johnson was the first person that i thought needed Questioning when i heard that Prince died..

Where was Kirk?

What does he Think? Feel? about Prince's Death?

Who drove Prince to Wallgreens?

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Good ol' Reni and Mani! They look so lonely without Squire And Brown ;د)

Thanks for the memories, forty

NotACleverName said:

laurarichardson said:

The police think it was accidental because test the day before did not show fentanyl in his system. I am also sure the ME could tell if he was a long term user of this Fentenyl and determine what he had been using by test she ran. You can tell if someone is a long term drinker or coke head by examination of their bodies so I am sure they could tell if he had been using Fentenyl for a long period of time or beyond that one night. I firmly believe the police have combed through all of his medical records going back years they would now his medical history and what he has actually prescribed and what sort of surgery he even had. They have his backstory pieced together and came to the conclusion that he did not mean to take this stuff. They have already admitted that their are suspects.

Fentaynl is processed through the body fairly quickly. While variables (individual factors, dosage, frequency and term of administration) affect the elimination, about 4 days is the longest amount of time it took for the body to eliminate all traces in one study group. Info found here: http://mentalhealthdaily....ur-system/ Conceivably, Prince could have (unknowingly?) ingested fentanyl via the mislabeled pills after the Atlanta show. This was a week prior to the fatal dose. His system would have been "clean" when tests were conducted on April 20. Interestingly, no one has mentioned this but I have wondered how much (if any) of a role Chaka's dependency to fentanyl and her relationship w/Prince played into his alleged drug use. They were friends and musical collaborators for many years. Hasn't anyone else thought about this? The fact that she entered rehab shortly after Prince passed seems way too coincidental for me. I have beliefs, too as they relate to this sad, sad event. Doesn't make them truths, though. One belief I have is that Kirk knows how all this went down...no way I'm going to ever think he doesn't; however, he is under no obligation to reveal any details for public consumption. Ever.

Definitely. As soon as I heard she entered rehab, I started wondering about the connections. I don't really know what I feel about the drug allegations regarding Prince...I vacillate back and forth... but according to reports Chaka and Whitney were get high buddies, as were Chaka and the R&B singer Michel’le back in the day. In the end I guess it doesn't really even matter

Asenath0607 said:

rogifan said:

Asenath0607 said:

Definitely. As soon as I heard she entered rehab, I started wondering about the connections. I don't really know what I feel about the drug allegations regarding Prince...I vacillate back and forth... but according to reports Chaka and Whitney were get high buddies, as were Chaka and the R&B singer Michel’le back in the day. In the end I guess it doesn't really even matter

Were Prince and Chaka that close on a regular basis? I believe it was the end of 2009 when Prince moved back to Minnesota. I don't remember seeing a lot of stories about Chaka being on the scene the last few years of his life.

We keep going in circles about this. Chaka was using fentanyl on purpose, Prince was not. One should be able to figure out the connection from that. If you can't let me paint it for you. Prince and Chaka were not drug buddies.

morningsong said:

morningsong said:

morningsong said:

rogifan said:

Asenath0607 said: Were Prince and Chaka that close on a regular basis? I believe it was the end of 2009 when Prince moved back to Minnesota. I don't remember seeing a lot of stories about Chaka being on the scene the last few years of his life.

We keep going in circles about this. Chaka was using fentanyl on purpose, Prince was not. One should be able to figure out the connection from that. If you can't let me paint it for you. Prince and Chaka were not drug buddies.

1. I did not say "were Prince and Chaka that close...."

2. Don't know who "we" are, while I don't claim to know, or have read every thread or post on here, but like the poster stated I had not seen any discussion regarding this topic other than she entered rehab

3. One can't figure out *^&t because WE weren't there

4. Like all artist, you use your imagination to paint, don't need you to paint anything for me because you're imagination is for you and you alone

5. Only Prince knows what he was doing

tired of playing nice, and being all about the love4oneanother vibe, with the unnecessarily rude people on here who think they know everything. Doubt if one person on here knew Prince, or was in his inner circle, to be spouting declarations like they have the 411; it's freaking obvious that even those people in his circle only knew what Prince wanted them to know.

Asenath0607 said:

morningsong said:

We keep going in circles about this. Chaka was using fentanyl on purpose, Prince was not. One should be able to figure out the connection from that. If you can't let me paint it for you. Prince and Chaka were not drug buddies.

1. I did not say "were Prince and Chaka that close...."

2. Don't know who "we" are, while I don't claim to know, or have read every thread or post on here, but like the poster stated I had not seen any discussion regarding this topic other than she entered rehab

3. One can't figure out *^&t because WE weren't there

4. Like all artist, you use your imagination to paint, don't need you to paint anything for me because you're imagination is for you and you alone

5. Only Prince knows what he was doing

tired of playing nice, and being all about the love4oneanother vibe, with the unnecessarily rude people on here who think they know everything. Doubt if one person on here knew Prince, or was in his inner circle, to be spouting declarations like they have the 411; it's freaking obvious that even those people in his circle only knew what Prince wanted them to know.

Given that the org didn't start yesterday I think you can figure out what the "we" is. All of this has been discussed extensively over the past year right here, let alone in several other places. There have been several publications over the past year discussing the drug use issues. Tons of people around here have done so much research on fentanyl, hydrocodone, black market pills, etc. and put it here for everyone to research and read. Take the time do your own research if you really want to know. There's a search feature here.

I do notice you didn't even acknowledge the fact that Prince did not know he was taking fentanyl, even after I told you, in your list making. I'm not sure if you really want to know or are just trying to stir the pot to see who else can be thrown under the angry bus.

morningsong said:

Asenath0607 said:

1. I did not say "were Prince and Chaka that close...."

2. Don't know who "we" are, while I don't claim to know, or have read every thread or post on here, but like the poster stated I had not seen any discussion regarding this topic other than she entered rehab

3. One can't figure out *^&t because WE weren't there

4. Like all artist, you use your imagination to paint, don't need you to paint anything for me because you're imagination is for you and you alone

5. Only Prince knows what he was doing

tired of playing nice, and being all about the love4oneanother vibe, with the unnecessarily rude people on here who think they know everything. Doubt if one person on here knew Prince, or was in his inner circle, to be spouting declarations like they have the 411; it's freaking obvious that even those people in his circle only knew what Prince wanted them to know.

Given that the org didn't start yesterday I think you can figure out what the "we" is. All of this has been discussed extensively over the past year right here, let alone in several other places. There have been several publications over the past year discussing the drug use issues. Tons of people around here have done so much research on fentanyl, hydrocodone, black market pills, etc. and put it here for everyone to research and read. Take the time do your own research if you really want to know. There's a search feature here.

I do notice you didn't even acknowledge the fact that Prince did not know he was taking fentanyl, even after I told you, in your list making. I'm not sure if you really want to know or are just trying to stir the pot to see who else can be thrown under the angry bus.

Well said. It is a out of control that people simply refuse to any reserch at all and then get upset when they are corrected.

^ My face is red, I stand corrected!

sonshine said:

Oh my god! Some of you will NEVER be happy!! Why do you think no one wsnts to talk. Waa waa waa kirk isnt talking, merone isnt talking, no one is talking boohoo. Why would they when nothing will ever satisfy some pseudo fans here? Positivity people! Listen to the man!! And for the last time no one owes us anything. They don't have to tell us a damn thing and I wish they wouldn't because it's no one business here. We are here to love and support Prince. That's it. Mods might as well lock this thread too right away.

what gives u the right to speak or decide on behalf of everybody.

Im glad this thread didnt get locked.

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+1

oscarchristio777 said:

sonshine said:

Oh my god! Some of you will NEVER be happy!! Why do you think no one wsnts to talk. Waa waa waa kirk isnt talking, merone isnt talking, no one is talking boohoo. Why would they when nothing will ever satisfy some pseudo fans here? Positivity people! Listen to the man!! And for the last time no one owes us anything. They don't have to tell us a damn thing and I wish they wouldn't because it's no one business here. We are here to love and support Prince. That's it. Mods might as well lock this thread too right away.

what gives u the right to speak or decide on behalf of everybody.

Im glad this thread didnt get locked.

[Edited 4/11/17 3:10am]

Kirk Johnson will be known to the general public as 1 of 3 people who found Prince dead when was collapsed inside the elevator at Paisley Park but I'm curious to hear the album Prince recorded with Kirk, Adrian Crutchfield and Mononeon because Kirk in the final years of Prince's life, played drums on the album Prince producde for Judith Hill. I hope Kirk will get his props for being a good drummer for Prince and contributing to some of Prince's best work in the '90s by helping Prince co-produce "Emancipation" and doing drum programming on "Gold Experience".

Prince, who was known for trusting noone but himself, kept Kirk around for many years. So there's that. That trust can go a long way...