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Thread started 05/11/17 3:41pm

Purpleye

Question about handwritten message on gold experience promo vinyl

Was it personally done by prince and are all messages the same?
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Reply #1 posted 05/11/17 4:34pm

TrivialPursuit

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Most likely not done by him, but perhaps a group of messages for manufacturers to randomly write on any particular release.

Discogs lists some interesting notes about those:

"Numbered cardboard sleeve with title sticker on front sleeve, liner notes sticker by Jim Walsh on the back sleeve & hand-engraved "hidden messages" in the runout grooves of the yellow ("gold") translucent vinyls."

Then lists:

  • Matrix / Runout (Side A): PRO-A-7835-A SR-I
  • Matrix / Runout (Side B): PRO-A-7835-B SRI
  • Matrix / Runout (Side C): PRO-A-7835-C-SRI
  • Matrix / Runout (Side D): PRO-A-7835-D-SRI
  • Matrix / Runout: [SRC logo] ❀
  • Matrix / Runout (Side A): "DEFEND YOUR RIGHT 2 DIE AND LIVE AGAIN"
  • Matrix / Runout (Side B): " . . . U CAN CUT OFF ALL MY FINS BUT 2 YOUR WAYS I WILL NOT BEND"
  • Matrix / Runout (Side C): " . . . THERE'S A MOUNTAIN AND IT'S MIGHTY HIGH, U CANNOT SEE THE TOP UNLESS U FLY"
  • Matrix / Runout (Side D): " . . . U DANCE 4 A DOLLAR, I KNOW HE DIDN'T MAKE U HOLLAR"
"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #2 posted 05/11/17 5:38pm

Purpleye

Thanks for the reply. I'm sure many orgers own this it would be interesting to hear the random messages. Who would know exactly how many messages were printed
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Reply #3 posted 05/11/17 5:57pm

kingricefan

Most of my Parliament albums that I had back in the day also had 'hidden' messages in that space between the last groove on the album and the label. There was some weird shit scrawled in that little 1/2 inch space, let me tell you. They all had to do with a Parliament lyric or slogan. Strange.....

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Reply #4 posted 05/11/17 6:01pm

TrivialPursuit

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Purpleye said:

Thanks for the reply. I'm sure many orgers own this it would be interesting to hear the random messages. Who would know exactly how many messages were printed


You mean how many different messages? The ones listed are reliable as the only known variations. Discogs is ever changing, but usually pretty accurate on such things.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #5 posted 05/11/17 6:25pm

Purpleye

TrivialPursuit. Please forgive my ignorance. It is good to know discogs is a reliable source . My question was answered thank you.
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Reply #6 posted 05/11/17 6:43pm

TrivialPursuit

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Purpleye said:

TrivialPursuit. Please forgive my ignorance. It is good to know discogs is a reliable source . My question was answered thank you.


No ignorance assumed. Discogs is a great place for referencing such things (and buying and selling vinyl, too!). It's funny you bring up this album on vinyl, because it's always been a bit pricey, but has always bee on my "Get This Now!" list. I think one day soon I might just give in and spend the cashola to get it. I recently acquired the "Gold" 12" gold vinyl single. (No writing on that one, to my knowledge.)

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #7 posted 05/12/17 12:36am

housequake82

Does anyone know how many of these gold vinyls were actually pressed?
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Reply #8 posted 05/12/17 1:49pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

Purpleye said:

TrivialPursuit. Please forgive my ignorance. It is good to know discogs is a reliable source . My question was answered thank you.


It's funny you bring up this album on vinyl, because it's always been a bit pricey, but has always bee on my "Get This Now!" list. I think one day soon I might just give in and spend the cashola to get it.

A copy sold on ebay UK a couple of hours ago for £275!

Nice thing.

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Reply #9 posted 05/12/17 2:00pm

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housequake82 said:

Does anyone know how many of these gold vinyls were actually pressed?

I've never been able to find any concrete info on this over the years. I'm going with (a guess) of 3000. I've never seen any numbered higher than that. If you do a search of this site you will find a thread with info of one numbered 2734.

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Reply #10 posted 05/18/17 3:11am

Laydown

my-copy-is-0-1357.

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Reply #11 posted 05/18/17 3:44am

MattyJam

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I prefer Love Symbol, Come, Chaos & Disorder, Emancipation and Rave. Oh, and probably New Power Soul as well. I appreciate the tightness on TGE, and the songwriting is certainly of a high standard, but it all sounds a little OTT for my tastes.
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Reply #12 posted 05/18/17 6:12am

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TheDigitalGardener said:

housequake82 said:

Does anyone know how many of these gold vinyls were actually pressed?

I've never been able to find any concrete info on this over the years. I'm going with (a guess) of 3000. I've never seen any numbered higher than that. If you do a search of this site you will find a thread with info of one numbered 2734.


Mine is 004011.

Bought it at a wrecka stow in Florida on a family vacation back in '97, paid $20-30 for it.




[Edited 5/18/17 6:25am]

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Reply #13 posted 05/18/17 6:39am

andykeen

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Can I ask, how many of these records were made?

Keenmeister
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Reply #14 posted 05/18/17 6:43am

djThunderfunk

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andykeen said:

Can I ask, how many of these records were made?


Already asked (see reply #'s 7, 9 & 12), not yet answered. wink

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Reply #15 posted 05/18/17 7:12am

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djThunderfunk said:

TheDigitalGardener said:

I've never been able to find any concrete info on this over the years. I'm going with (a guess) of 3000. I've never seen any numbered higher than that. If you do a search of this site you will find a thread with info of one numbered 2734.


Mine is 004011.

Bought it at a wrecka stow in Florida on a family vacation back in '97, paid $20-30 for it.




[Edited 5/18/17 6:25am]

So not 3000 then lol

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Reply #16 posted 05/18/17 7:18am

fen

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kingricefan said:

Most of my Parliament albums that I had back in the day also had 'hidden' messages in that space between the last groove on the album and the label. There was some weird shit scrawled in that little 1/2 inch space, let me tell you. They all had to do with a Parliament lyric or slogan. Strange.....

I had no idea about this – I'm off to check my old P-Funk vinyls! biggrin

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Reply #17 posted 05/18/17 7:50am

djThunderfunk

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TheDigitalGardener said:

djThunderfunk said:


Mine is 004011.

Bought it at a wrecka stow in Florida on a family vacation back in '97, paid $20-30 for it.




[Edited 5/18/17 6:25am]

So not 3000 then lol


biggrin Maybe 5000? wink

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Reply #18 posted 05/18/17 10:22pm

kingricefan

So, what are the messages in the grooves? I got rid of all of my Parliament albums years ago so I can't look them up. One of them was about Flashlight. One was something about the Mothership Connection.

fen said:

kingricefan said:

Most of my Parliament albums that I had back in the day also had 'hidden' messages in that space between the last groove on the album and the label. There was some weird shit scrawled in that little 1/2 inch space, let me tell you. They all had to do with a Parliament lyric or slogan. Strange.....

I had no idea about this – I'm off to check my old P-Funk vinyls! biggrin

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Reply #19 posted 05/19/17 9:04pm

Laydown

andykeen said:

Can I ask, how many of these records were made?

No one knows cos theres no info about how many were made cos the album is over 20 years old

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Reply #20 posted 05/20/17 5:24am

Laydown

TrivialPursuit said:

Most likely not done by him, but perhaps a group of messages for manufacturers to randomly write on any particular release.

Discogs lists some interesting notes about those:

"Numbered cardboard sleeve with title sticker on front sleeve, liner notes sticker by Jim Walsh on the back sleeve & hand-engraved "hidden messages" in the runout grooves of the yellow ("gold") translucent vinyls."

Then lists:

  • Matrix / Runout (Side A): PRO-A-7835-A SR-I
  • Matrix / Runout (Side B): PRO-A-7835-B SRI
  • Matrix / Runout (Side C): PRO-A-7835-C-SRI
  • Matrix / Runout (Side D): PRO-A-7835-D-SRI
  • Matrix / Runout: [SRC logo] ❀
  • Matrix / Runout (Side A): "DEFEND YOUR RIGHT 2 DIE AND LIVE AGAIN"
  • Matrix / Runout (Side B): " . . . U CAN CUT OFF ALL MY FINS BUT 2 YOUR WAYS I WILL NOT BEND"
  • Matrix / Runout (Side C): " . . . THERE'S A MOUNTAIN AND IT'S MIGHTY HIGH, U CANNOT SEE THE TOP UNLESS U FLY"
  • Matrix / Runout (Side D): " . . . U DANCE 4 A DOLLAR, I KNOW HE DIDN'T MAKE U HOLLAR"

My promo has the same messages in the same order as above

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