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Mayte's Book [The Official Thread] - All Discussion Here - Part 2

Hey all!


[First thread - http://prince.org/msg/7/439882 got wayyyyyy too long, please continue posting here - luv4u]


This is the official thread regarding discussing Mayte's book.


Some of you have asked why older threads were removed.

The reason is that we were asked by Mayte's publishers to not have discussions regarding the leaked manuscript as this was not representative of the final book. We were attempting to get a statement from them.



However, as of today - promotional copies have been sent to the media and reviewers, and the marketing campaign by the publishing company has begun, so we can begin discussion officially without risking upsetting anyone.


Please keep discussion civil - flaming will not be tolerated.


As the book will inevitably discuss drug references, Ben and the entire staff team have decided that we are sunsetting the "no drugs" rule that we originally intended to follow until April 21st. As long as this conversation is dealt with in a civil manner. Basically, if we can all agree to be adults here, then everything will be OK. We mods have a difficult enough job and we don't need things descending into anarchy.


P.S - The reason this thread is not in Associated Artists is because the book is directly about her life with Prince, and even if we put the thread over there we'd end up with a million new topics about it here.

Edmonton, AB - canada

Ohh purple joy oh purple bliss oh purple rapture!
REAL MUSIC by REAL MUSICIANS - Prince
"I kind of wish there was a reason for Prince to make the site crash more" ~~ Ben
Reply #1 posted 03/19/17 6:33pm

ladygirl99

Looks like this thread is still on fire and the book is still not released yet. lol

Reply #2 posted 03/19/17 6:34pm

ladygirl99

Wait a second on the last thread the word is Mayte might pulled the book? Is that possible with the book printed? Sounds like Black Album part 2.

Reply #3 posted 03/19/17 6:35pm

joytotheworld

I hope not. Was looking forward to it and appears to be selling well.

Reply #4 posted 03/19/17 6:37pm

morningsong

Well that explains why I couldn't post. Beating the crap out of my poor tablet for nothing.




She better not pull that book NOW.
“Do I dare Disturb the universe?”
― T.S. Eliot

“Only by acceptance of the past, can you alter it”
― T.S. Eliot
Reply #5 posted 03/19/17 6:40pm

joytotheworld

morningsong said:

Well that explains why I couldn't post. Beating the crap out of my poor tablet for nothing. She better not pull that book NOW.

Seriously!

Reply #6 posted 03/19/17 6:42pm

Lovejunky

ladygirl99 said:

Looks like this thread is still on fire and the book is still not released yet. lol

Interesting to note that the People who have actually read this book from cover to cover have an entirely different opinion than those who have read excerpts or are specualting on the contents becasue of the Stupid Tabloids..

Here two very Positive reviews..

For those who look for their Posativity Pills daily...

http://www.goodreads.com/...-beautiful

For the others....

DONT READ:: ignore the link...

it might just take you right out of your comfort zone and make you feel happy...

“LOVE IS THE MASTERPLAN”
Reply #7 posted 03/19/17 6:48pm

ladygirl99

Lovejunky said:

ladygirl99 said:

Looks like this thread is still on fire and the book is still not released yet. lol

Interesting to note that the People who have actually read this book from cover to cover have an entirely different opinion than those who have read excerpts or are specualting on the contents becasue of the Stupid Tabloids..

Here two very Positive reviews..

For those who look for their Posativity Pills daily...

http://www.goodreads.com/...-beautiful

For the others....

DONT READ:: ignore the link...

it might just take you right out of your comfort zone and make you feel happy...

Thanks Lovejunky. I will check it out. I read some of the reviews and one reviewer said it was a great book and Mayte kept some details to herself. And her friend Dave said on that radio show there were lot of things she kept out of the book.

So in other words she is still respecting his privacy. I think her book is going to be as non-controversal as Dez and Sheila E books once people gives a chance to read it.

Yeah I blame People article. mad

Reply #8 posted 03/19/17 6:50pm

kingricefan

[Best to contact a moderator, what you posted will just create a mess with that person here snip, thanks - luv4u]

Reply #9 posted 03/19/17 6:51pm

Menes

luv4u said:

Hey all!


[First thread - http://prince.org/msg/7/439882 got wayyyyyy too long, please continue posting here - luv4u]


This is the official thread regarding discussing Mayte's book.


Some of you have asked why older threads were removed.

The reason is that we were asked by Mayte's publishers to not have discussions regarding the leaked manuscript as this was not representative of the final book. We were attempting to get a statement from them.



However, as of today - promotional copies have been sent to the media and reviewers, and the marketing campaign by the publishing company has begun, so we can begin discussion officially without risking upsetting anyone.


Please keep discussion civil - flaming will not be tolerated.


As the book will inevitably discuss drug references, Ben and the entire staff team have decided that we are sunsetting the "no drugs" rule that we originally intended to follow until April 21st. As long as this conversation is dealt with in a civil manner. Basically, if we can all agree to be adults here, then everything will be OK. We mods have a difficult enough job and we don't need things descending into anarchy.


P.S - The reason this thread is not in Associated Artists is because the book is directly about her life with Prince, and even if we put the thread over there we'd end up with a million new topics about it here.


[Move on .......... luv4u]

Reply #10 posted 03/19/17 6:54pm

206Michelle

I want to make a point that I don't recall being in the previous thread. The only detailed information that we know about Amiir is what Erlene and Arlene Mojica, the nannies, disclosed to the tabloid the News of the World, back on March 9, 1997. The name of the article is "Prince: Bizarre truth behind death of star's baby" by Stuart White I know that the article is on this site somewhere. (I'm not able to search the site right now...I think my browser is having issues.)

Source: http://www.lipstickalley....Now/page13.

--

Prince chose to say hardly anything about the baby's death to the media. That was his choice. Mayte is choosing to disclose more. Again, it's her choice. I will reserve judgement about how she does so as well as the rest of her book until I read it. I didn't have an issue with anything in the People excerpt that she wrote, although the fact that she didn't know about the whereabouts of the ashes is quite odd. Perhaps there is more to the story in the book. But, since it was she and Prince's child, I feel like with her book she is providing her story about Amiir's short life so that there is something else besides just the News of the World article.

--

All of that said, I don't expect her book or subsequent books to change much about his legacy. We all know he was a complex individual. He was uniquely talented, and one of the greatest musicians to ever live. He was a humanitarian. He was also flawed, controlling, and could be an ass. But he lived his life a heck of a lot more scandal-free than contemporaries like Whitney Houston or Michael Jackson. Most of his scandal was related to his music and the boundaries that he pushed, especially with regard to sexuality, e.g. the lyrics of Darling Nikki. Overall, his legacy is highly respected, and I don't expect that to change much in any direction due to Mayte's book.



Don't die without knowing the cross.
Reply #11 posted 03/19/17 7:15pm

Lovejunky

206Michelle said:

I want to make a point that I don't recall being in the previous thread. The only detailed information that we know about Amiir is what Erlene and Arlene Mojica, the nannies, disclosed to the tabloid the News of the World, back on March 9, 1997. The name of the article is "Prince: Bizarre truth behind death of star's baby" by Stuart White I know that the article is on this site somewhere. (I'm not able to search the site right now...I think my browser is having issues.)

Source: http://www.lipstickalley....Now/page13.

--

Prince chose to say hardly anything about the baby's death to the media. That was his choice. Mayte is choosing to disclose more. Again, it's her choice. I will reserve judgement about how she does so as well as the rest of her book until I read it. I didn't have an issue with anything in the People excerpt that she wrote, although the fact that she didn't know about the whereabouts of the ashes is quite odd. Perhaps there is more to the story in the book. But, since it was she and Prince's child, I feel like with her book she is providing her story about Amiir's short life so that there is something else besides just the News of the World article.

--

All of that said, I don't expect her book or subsequent books to change much about his legacy. We all know he was a complex individual. He was uniquely talented, and one of the greatest musicians to ever live. He was a humanitarian. He was also flawed, controlling, and could be an ass. But he lived his life a heck of a lot more scandal-free than contemporaries like Whitney Houston or Michael Jackson. Most of his scandal was related to his music and the boundaries that he pushed, especially with regard to sexuality, e.g. the lyrics of Darling Nikki. Overall, his legacy is highly respected, and I don't expect that to change much in any direction due to Mayte's book.



Yep...that article is here, but Im not going to pull it up.

I was disgusted by it to be honest...there is some reference to the fact that The Sisters were uncomfrotable about Princes decision to turn off AHmirs life support and that there was some kind of routine Homicide investigation !!!!!!!

Anyone on their right mind would understand that to deny Life Support for a child who has suffered so much, is an act of compassion and Mercy....

“LOVE IS THE MASTERPLAN”
Reply #12 posted 03/19/17 7:16pm

questionofu

206Michelle said:

I want to make a point that I don't recall being in the previous thread. The only detailed information that we know about Amiir is what Erlene and Arlene Mojica, the nannies, disclosed to the tabloid the News of the World, back on March 9, 1997. The name of the article is "Prince: Bizarre truth behind death of star's baby" by Stuart White I know that the article is on this site somewhere. (I'm not able to search the site right now...I think my browser is having issues.)

Source: http://www.lipstickalley....Now/page13.

--

Prince chose to say hardly anything about the baby's death to the media. That was his choice. Mayte is choosing to disclose more. Again, it's her choice. I will reserve judgement about how she does so as well as the rest of her book until I read it. I didn't have an issue with anything in the People excerpt that she wrote, although the fact that she didn't know about the whereabouts of the ashes is quite odd. Perhaps there is more to the story in the book. But, since it was she and Prince's child, I feel like with her book she is providing her story about Amiir's short life so that there is something else besides just the News of the World article.

--

All of that said, I don't expect her book or subsequent books to change much about his legacy. We all know he was a complex individual. He was uniquely talented, and one of the greatest musicians to ever live. He was a humanitarian. He was also flawed, controlling, and could be an ass. But he lived his life a heck of a lot more scandal-free than contemporaries like Whitney Houston or Michael Jackson. Most of his scandal was related to his music and the boundaries that he pushed, especially with regard to sexuality, e.g. the lyrics of Darling Nikki. Overall, his legacy is highly respected, and I don't expect that to change much in any direction due to Mayte's book.



I like your post, good thoughts. I agree, the book will not change his legacy. Rest in Peace.

Prince.
Reply #13 posted 03/19/17 7:35pm

ladygirl99

206Michelle said:

I want to make a point that I don't recall being in the previous thread. The only detailed information that we know about Amiir is what Erlene and Arlene Mojica, the nannies, disclosed to the tabloid the News of the World, back on March 9, 1997. The name of the article is "Prince: Bizarre truth behind death of star's baby" by Stuart White I know that the article is on this site somewhere. (I'm not able to search the site right now...I think my browser is having issues.)

Source: http://www.lipstickalley....Now/page13.

--

Prince chose to say hardly anything about the baby's death to the media. That was his choice. Mayte is choosing to disclose more. Again, it's her choice. I will reserve judgement about how she does so as well as the rest of her book until I read it. I didn't have an issue with anything in the People excerpt that she wrote, although the fact that she didn't know about the whereabouts of the ashes is quite odd. Perhaps there is more to the story in the book. But, since it was she and Prince's child, I feel like with her book she is providing her story about Amiir's short life so that there is something else besides just the News of the World article.

--

All of that said, I don't expect her book or subsequent books to change much about his legacy. We all know he was a complex individual. He was uniquely talented, and one of the greatest musicians to ever live. He was a humanitarian. He was also flawed, controlling, and could be an ass. But he lived his life a heck of a lot more scandal-free than contemporaries like Whitney Houston or Michael Jackson. Most of his scandal was related to his music and the boundaries that he pushed, especially with regard to sexuality, e.g. the lyrics of Darling Nikki. Overall, his legacy is highly respected, and I don't expect that to change much in any direction due to Mayte's book.



I will be shock too if it does. A lot of dead celebrities had tell-all books I was thinking about Elvis and Tupac and Kurt Cobain and Whitney Houston their life and the way they died is very controversal. You are right some of them have way more scandals than Prince. If Michael Jackson who have wayyyyyy more scandals and even Elvis remains top selling artists (and fuck they are selling way more than today's artists) I think Prince will be okay. I treated Prince like he is a flaw human but nevertheless I am going to do my part to help keep his legacy going. And I am going to continue to support mainly the ones who worked with him like Mayte, and his other associates because they knew him best and also it gives me more insight about him not only as a musician but as an organism.

Reply #14 posted 03/19/17 7:37pm

NotACleverName

Nisibee (hope I got your org name correct..if not, my apologies) originally posted this in the first thread in Reply #1184. Incredibly informative and some, who are not sure of Mayte's motives re the book, her auction of Prince items and/or are not certain of other misnomers (annulment (fact or fiction)), etc., would do themselves a HUGE favor by listening to this!

The Prince Podcast: Mayte People Magazine Article

We're joined by Dave Buchansky close friend of Mayte to discus the recent People magazine article, featuring excerpts from the upcoming book The Most Beautiful: My Life with Prince. We talk about some of the split opinions some fans have about the book. 

http://podcastjuice.net/t...-article/
"Go placidly amid the noise and the haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence......." ~ DESIDERATA ~ Max Ehrmann
Reply #15 posted 03/19/17 8:20pm

bashraka

NotACleverName said:

Nisibee (hope I got your org name correct..if not, my apologies) originally posted this in the first thread in Reply #1184. Incredibly informative and some, who are not sure of Mayte's motives re the book, her auction of Prince items and/or are not certain of other misnomers (annulment (fact or fiction)), etc., would do themselves a HUGE favor by listening to this! The Prince Podcast: Mayte People Magazine Article We're joined by Dave Buchansky close friend of Mayte to discus the recent People magazine article, featuring excerpts from the upcoming book The Most Beautiful: My Life with Prince. We talk about some of the split opinions some fans have about the book. http://podcastjuice.net/t...-article/

I understand Dave wanting to be protective of Mayte from opinions that are menacing and downright threatening but he has to understand that just as Mayte has the right to put out her book detailing her life with Prince, people also have the right to be suspicious of the veracity of hre claims, skeptical of the timing of the release of the booke and her motives for publishing this book. And he sounded silly saying that Mayte's behavior on Hollywood Exes should be excused because reality shows are scripted. THAT'S A DAMN COP OUT! Can't have it both ways! SHE chose to be on Hollywood Exes, SHE chose to exploit her life for the cameras for fame, SHE chose to have her actions judged by the viewing public. It seems like some people want to treat Mayte like a baby and shield her from every dissenting opinion. Lastly, a grown man arguing with Apollonia about Apollonia possible "shading" Mayte on Facebook is a sucker move. If Apollonia has a problem with Mayte, let Mayte handle it. Imagine Drake dissing Remy Ma in defense of Nicki Minaj-Drake would look just as lame getting involved in a dispute between 2 women. I'm not buying Mayte's book because I'm not interested in her life story and the hype around this book is too creepy to actually commit to buying. But I'm interested in seeing how well or how bad Mayte answer pointed criticisms about her book on the promotional circuit.

3121 #1 THIS YEAR
Reply #16 posted 03/19/17 8:35pm

PennyPurple

I certainly hope that Mayte does NOT pull this book. She has the right to tell her story and she shouldn't be silenced.
Reply #17 posted 03/19/17 8:36pm

PennyPurple

dupe

[Edited 3/19/17 20:36pm]

Reply #18 posted 03/19/17 8:46pm

sonshine

Lovejunky said:

ladygirl99 said:

Looks like this thread is still on fire and the book is still not released yet. lol

Interesting to note that the People who have actually read this book from cover to cover have an entirely different opinion than those who have read excerpts or are specualting on the contents becasue of the Stupid Tabloids..

Here two very Positive reviews..

For those who look for their Posativity Pills daily...

http://www.goodreads.com/...-beautiful

For the others....

DONT READ:: ignore the link...

it might just take you right out of your comfort zone and make you feel happy...

This is good, positive news. Yay!

Pull your cellphone out and call your next of kin, it's about to get funky in here!
Reply #19 posted 03/19/17 9:46pm

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame

PurpleYoda, please explain why you think Mayte might pull the book.

yoda yoda

Reply #20 posted 03/19/17 9:50pm

cindyt

maybe a lawyer told her to...

Reply #21 posted 03/19/17 10:28pm

SoulAlive

It would be pointless to pull the book,because so much of its contents have already been revealed.There's no turning back now.

Reply #22 posted 03/19/17 10:32pm

rasberrylips

SoulAlive said:

It would be pointless to pull the book,because so much of its contents have already been revealed.There's no turning back now.

Can MG pull the book and release it at another time?

Reply #23 posted 03/19/17 10:52pm

dance4me3121

I did a google search and can't find anything about mayte pulling or cancelling the book
Reply #24 posted 03/19/17 10:56pm

rogifan

Why is it so important to people that this book come out? Mayte had plenty of opportunities to tell her story when Prince was alive. If it's so important for her story to be told why did she wait until Prince was on the other side to release it?
Paisley Park is in your heart
#PrinceForever 💜
Reply #25 posted 03/19/17 11:10pm

morningsong

dance4me3121 said:

I did a google search and can't find anything about mayte pulling or cancelling the book



I didn't find anything either. Somebody just said it and never came back. shrug

Seems weird to get this far and then pull it.
“Do I dare Disturb the universe?”
― T.S. Eliot

“Only by acceptance of the past, can you alter it”
― T.S. Eliot
Reply #26 posted 03/19/17 11:30pm

moonsister

rogifan said:

Why is it so important to people that this book come out? Mayte had plenty of opportunities to tell her story when Prince was alive. If it's so important for her story to be told why did she wait until Prince was on the other side to release it?

It's going to sell better now. Adults need money to live, why is this fact of life seen as vulgar, when it's simply a fact? She is doing the smart thing monetarily, like Prince tried to do, as well AS THE REST OF US.
[Edited 3/19/17 23:34pm]
Reply #27 posted 03/19/17 11:33pm

purplethunder3121

rogifan said:

Why is it so important to people that this book come out? Mayte had plenty of opportunities to tell her story when Prince was alive. If it's so important for her story to be told why did she wait until Prince was on the other side to release it?

The thing is that it seems that a lot of the story was already known.

Now that I'm free I let the wind blow me...
Reply #28 posted 03/19/17 11:41pm

CatB

CatB said:

Menes said:

1.Of course he wasn't forced to do anything.

2. Her mother controlled her daughter's career ( who was a minor) at the inception of meeting Prince. Everything started there, to include, exactly how and why she met him. If that step cant be acknowledged, so be it. She didn't meet Prince by happen stance. That was a controlled event.

3. "Someone once said life is what happens when you plan it"? They didn't add the part that life can be planned out for you all the same ? People are groomed for certain things all day long. Look around . It happens all the time.

4. Yes, he gave her a career that was more profitable, but she had a "career" before she met Prince. What she didn't have was the cerebral wherewithal or connection to get to Prince who could further her career. Her mother was the conduit for the expedition. But lets move on ....What hapened with you and Prince? Any hanky panky?


Okay, thanks for elaborating.

Yes I had some fun with him. However, I merely brought up how we met to point out that you cannot plan what's gonna happen, when or how.

Back to Mayte and her book.

Menes said:

Please don't write a book. biggrin


Actually I have been writing about it.


[Edited 3/19/17 23:42pm]

[Edited 3/19/17 23:43pm]

"Time is space spent with U"
Reply #29 posted 03/20/17 12:00am

purplethunder3121

CatB said:

CatB said:

Menes said:

Please don't write a book. biggrin


Actually I have been writing about it.


[Edited 3/19/17 23:42pm]

[Edited 3/19/17 23:43pm]

Uh, oh. Here, we go. lol

Now that I'm free I let the wind blow me...
Reply #30 posted 03/20/17 12:21am

luv4u

Moderator

moderator

ladygirl99 said:

Wait a second on the last thread the word is Mayte might pulled the book? Is that possible with the book printed? Sounds like Black Album part 2.



Disregard what that poster posted. They have nothing to back this up.

It is NOT true.

There is nothing on the internet to back this up.

Edmonton, AB - canada

Ohh purple joy oh purple bliss oh purple rapture!
REAL MUSIC by REAL MUSICIANS - Prince
"I kind of wish there was a reason for Prince to make the site crash more" ~~ Ben
Reply #31 posted 03/20/17 12:23am

ladygirl99

So it looks like so far the book pulled was just some rumor.

Good. I hope the book releases on schedule and don't let people stay scare her into silence of telling her story. I hope she continues to stay strong and focus on her activities with animal rescuing and her well being etc.

Reply #32 posted 03/20/17 12:23am

ladygirl99

luv4u said:

ladygirl99 said:

Wait a second on the last thread the word is Mayte might pulled the book? Is that possible with the book printed? Sounds like Black Album part 2.



Disregard what that poster posted. They have nothing to back this up.

It is NOT true.

There is nothing on the internet to back this up.

Yeah I since disregard it. wink

Reply #33 posted 03/20/17 1:46am

laurarichardson

ladygirl99 said:

 



Lovejunky said:


 



ladygirl99 said:


Looks like this thread is still on fire and the book is still not released yet. lol



 


 


Interesting to note that the People who have actually read this book from cover to cover have an entirely different opinion than those who have read excerpts or are specualting on the contents becasue of the Stupid Tabloids..


 


Here two very Positive reviews..


 


For those who look for their Posativity Pills daily...


 


http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/32052074-the-most-beautiful


 


For the others....


DONT READ:: ignore the link...


it might just take you right out of your comfort zone and make you feel happy...



Thanks Lovejunky. I will check it out. I read some of the reviews and one reviewer said it was a great book and Mayte kept some details to herself. And her friend Dave said on that radio show there were lot of things she kept out of the book.


 


So in other words she is still respecting his privacy. I think her book is going to be as non-controversal as Dez and Sheila E books once people gives a chance to read it.


 


Yeah I blame People article. mad


 


1) The Tabs would not have been able to do the damage they did if she had just kept a few tidbits out.
2) She could have told her story without going into the graphic details about baby and if she never saw Prince use drugs why bring it up at all
3) She seems to think that test would have stopped the birth defect which it would not have
4) The whole innocent I was controlled by him is just not belive able to me. Was Prince old school in that the man makes the decisions sure he was but this women worked for him for 4 years before she married him and he was dating several women when he was seeing her. No way did she not know what he was about and still say she is not telling on herself. She needs to take some responsibility for her own actions.
[Edited 3/20/17 1:48am]
Reply #34 posted 03/20/17 1:59am

BillieBalloon

I read in the previous thread that Apollonia has been harassed by Dave, Maytes friend and she is telling the authorities.



Wow.
Baby, you're a star.

Meet me in another world, space and joy
Reply #35 posted 03/20/17 2:12am

BillieBalloon

ladygirl99 said:

So it looks like so far the book pulled was just some rumor.


 


Good. I hope the book releases on schedule and don't let people stay scare her into silence of telling her story. I hope she continues to stay strong and focus on her activities with animal rescuing and her well being etc.




You think you make me mad?
Dont flatter yourself.

smile

Im done with you.
Enjoy supporting this tarnishing of Princes legacy.

When you read where people are calling him a rapist you can just turn away and pretend you didn't read it.
Baby, you're a star.

Meet me in another world, space and joy
Reply #36 posted 03/20/17 2:17am

ladygirl99

laurarichardson said:

ladygirl99 said:

Thanks Lovejunky. I will check it out. I read some of the reviews and one reviewer said it was a great book and Mayte kept some details to herself. And her friend Dave said on that radio show there were lot of things she kept out of the book.

So in other words she is still respecting his privacy. I think her book is going to be as non-controversal as Dez and Sheila E books once people gives a chance to read it.

Yeah I blame People article. mad

1) The Tabs would not have been able to do the damage they did if she had just kept a few tidbits out. 2) She could have told her story without going into the graphic details about baby and if she never saw Prince use drugs why bring it up at all 3) She seems to think that test would have stopped the birth defect which it would not have 4) The whole innocent I was controlled by him is just not belive able to me. Was Prince old school in that the man makes the decisions sure he was but this women worked for him for 4 years before she married him and he was dating several women when he was seeing her. No way did she not know what he was about and still say she is not telling on herself. She needs to take some responsibility for her own actions. [Edited 3/20/17 1:48am]

Most media companies usually have advance copies of books before it release for your INFO. Even if she didn't say anything, People mag is still going to use the excerpts they want to publish. So write to them of your complaint.

And also for the thousandth time, Prince shouldn't get pass with his womanizing or his actions. That is why women in this planet will never be fully equal thanks to other women (male-identifed ones) always overlook a man cheating ways or made excuses but always fault women for the littlest shit. I never said Mayte perfect or innocent as I heard some quesetionable things about her. But she has the right to tell her story of her life with Prince and thats a human rights issue and that is why I have been defending her. And until you start equally held Prince accountable for his actions too, I am going to continue not take your 'concerns' seriously but as a joke. lol

I also do believe he was controlling her even though she was willing to go with it. But come on you know Prince the control story.

And according to that radio interview yesterday with her friend, she isn't thinking about any of her haters. I am sitting laughing at people are blowing hot air and ranting over this book yet Mayte is placing yall on IGNORE and is making whole lot of difference in this world as being an environmentalist (like I am). She doesn't have to take responsible for NOTHING just to prove to some fans bizarre demands.

Reply #37 posted 03/20/17 2:40am

ladygirl99

BillieBalloon said:

ladygirl99 said:

So it looks like so far the book pulled was just some rumor.

Good. I hope the book releases on schedule and don't let people stay scare her into silence of telling her story. I hope she continues to stay strong and focus on her activities with animal rescuing and her well being etc.

You think you make me mad? Dont flatter yourself. smile Im done with you. Enjoy supporting this tarnishing of Princes legacy. When you read where people are calling him a rapist you can just turn away and pretend you didn't read it.

Prince legacy wont be tarnish. If the likes of Michael Jackson, Elvis, and even the alive one Mike Tyson still have their legacies intact, so will Prince who had less scandals than them. Its not Mayte's job to protect Prince's image or stop people from saying bad things about him but she is doing what she can to help his legacy. People are going to say what they say about Prince, always have and always will even without the book. So why get mad at things you can't control?

And because of that last thread and the past unpleasent interactions with you, and after this post, I am officially ignoring you so I am not responding to you anymore. So please from now stop replying to my posts first and stop responding to me. THANK YOU!

Reply #38 posted 03/20/17 2:57am

MMJas

I already posted my (long) opinion on the previous thread, but I'd like to say this: Mayte does no harm to Prince's name or his legacy with her book. None whatsover. Rag mags with crap headlines do that. It's the price she or anyone that writes a book has to pay. Taking things out of context is a common trait for rag mags, tabloids and people who dislike someone and just want to grab something that they can pick apart.


She has as much right to write this book as any Prince associate. Period. The fact that she was married to him makes that book slightly more interesting cause it allows for a side of Prince WE DO NOT KNOW. She seems to portray him as a loving husband, a loving father, a good friend, a confident, a brilliant professional. Ultimately, also as a human being with many low and solitary moments. In truth, there's probably nothing in this book we did not already know. Like Prince himself said, his songs told the whole story and that is becoming more and more obvious now. There's so much more she could have said about him and she did not.

My love for Prince did not waver. Nor did my compassion for Mayte. Theirs was a beautiful story than ended tragically.
If there is any untruth in her book, I'm pretty sure the Estate will be the first to acknowledge that. So far, I haven't seen them do that.

[Edited 3/20/17 3:57am]

Reply #39 posted 03/20/17 3:00am

laurarichardson

ladygirl99 said:

 



laurarichardson said:


ladygirl99 said:

 


Thanks Lovejunky. I will check it out. I read some of the reviews and one reviewer said it was a great book and Mayte kept some details to herself. And her friend Dave said on that radio show there were lot of things she kept out of the book.


 


So in other words she is still respecting his privacy. I think her book is going to be as non-controversal as Dez and Sheila E books once people gives a chance to read it.


 


Yeah I blame People article. mad


 



1) The Tabs would not have been able to do the damage they did if she had just kept a few tidbits out. 2) She could have told her story without going into the graphic details about baby and if she never saw Prince use drugs why bring it up at all 3) She seems to think that test would have stopped the birth defect which it would not have 4) The whole innocent I was controlled by him is just not belive able to me. Was Prince old school in that the man makes the decisions sure he was but this women worked for him for 4 years before she married him and he was dating several women when he was seeing her. No way did she not know what he was about and still say she is not telling on herself. She needs to take some responsibility for her own actions. [Edited 3/20/17 1:48am]

Most media companies usually have advance copies of books before it release for your INFO. Even if she didn't say anything, People mag is still going to use the excerpts they want to publish. So write to them of your complaint.


And also for the thousandth time, Prince shouldn't get pass with his womanizing or his actions. That is why women in this planet will never be fully equal thanks to other women (male-identifed ones) always overlook a man cheating ways or made excuses but always fault women for the littlest shit. I never said Mayte perfect or innocent as I heard some quesetionable things about her. But she has the right to tell her story of her life with Prince and thats a human rights issue and that is why I have been defending her. And until you start equally held Prince accountable for his actions too, I am going to continue not take your 'concerns' seriously but as a joke. lol


 


I also do believe he was controlling her even though she was willing to go with it. But come on you know Prince the control story.


 


And according to that radio interview yesterday with her friend, she isn't thinking about any of her haters. I am sitting laughing at people are blowing hot air and ranting over this book yet Mayte is placing yall on IGNORE and is making whole lot of difference in this world as being an environmentalist (like I am).  She doesn't have to take responsible for NOTHING just to prove to some fans bizarre demands.


 


 


Mayte could correct that if she wanted to but I will bet money she does not. These tidbits help sell the book. I am not excusing Prince from being a womanizer. If you read what many of his lady freinds are saying they knew he was a womanizer from the very begining. He did not hide what he was doing. At one point do you put your big girl pants on and make decision to leave. As women we have a tendency to want men to change or fix them. You can't change someone who does not want to change. As a women in her 40s she should have figured this out by this time. I can not think of anyone who has dragged their time out being married to a celebrity for as long as she has and I do not believe Prince was anymore controlling then most men with money when a women puts herself in a stituation of having no means of making herself economically viable she is giving up control. You cannot come back years later a be butt hurt over decisions you made and couples split up all the time and life goes on. I believe he loved her and I believe he was excited about those kids. You do not build a nursery and buy entire jungle gym if you do not care. I just think he could not handle the sadness and I believe something else happened that she is not including. Not fair to tell on him and not herself. Even Sheila E put it out that she could be hard on people and admitted it. For the last time no one is saying she does not have a right to write a book but be fair or be honest about your motives. It would also be good if she was not sending out IG post telling people he will always be her husband or having Dave speak for her. That guy is harassing people and you have no idea what he had been up to.
[Edited 3/20/17 3:02am]
Reply #40 posted 03/20/17 3:10am

laurarichardson

laurarichardson said:[quote]

ladygirl99 said:

 



laurarichardson said:


ladygirl99 said:

 


Thanks Lovejunky. I will check it out. I read some of the reviews and one reviewer said it was a great book and Mayte kept some details to herself. And her friend Dave said on that radio show there were lot of things she kept out of the book.


 


So in other words she is still respecting his privacy. I think her book is going to be as non-controversal as Dez and Sheila E books once people gives a chance to read it.


 


Yeah I blame People article. mad


 



1) The Tabs would not have been able to do the damage they did if she had just kept a few tidbits out. 2) She could have told her story without going into the graphic details about baby and if she never saw Prince use drugs why bring it up at all 3) She seems to think that test would have stopped the birth defect which it would not have 4) The whole innocent I was controlled by him is just not belive able to me. Was Prince old school in that the man makes the decisions sure he was but this women worked for him for 4 years before she married him and he was dating several women when he was seeing her. No way did she not know what he was about and still say she is not telling on herself. She needs to take some responsibility for her own actions. [Edited 3/20/17 1:48am]

Most media companies usually have advance copies of books before it release for your INFO. Even if she didn't say anything, People mag is still going to use the excerpts they want to publish. So write to them of your complaint.


And also for the thousandth time, Prince shouldn't get pass with his womanizing or his actions. That is why women in this planet will never be fully equal thanks to other women (male-identifed ones) always overlook a man cheating ways or made excuses but always fault women for the littlest shit. I never said Mayte perfect or innocent as I heard some quesetionable things about her. But she has the right to tell her story of her life with Prince and thats a human rights issue and that is why I have been defending her. And until you start equally held Prince accountable for his actions too, I am going to continue not take your 'concerns' seriously but as a joke. lol


 


I also do believe he was controlling her even though she was willing to go with it. But come on you know Prince the control story.


 


And according to that radio interview yesterday with her friend, she isn't thinking about any of her haters. I am sitting laughing at people are blowing hot air and ranting over this book yet Mayte is placing yall on IGNORE and is making whole lot of difference in this world as being an environmentalist (like I am).  She doesn't have to take responsible for NOTHING just to prove to some fans bizarre demands.


 


 


[Edited 3/20/17 3:19am]
Reply #41 posted 03/20/17 3:27am

fortuneandserendipity

Can we not all agree Mayte rocks! headbang


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"Musically way ahead of any of us" - Elton John on P

"I am a dyed-in-the-wool Englishman!" - Mozart (EU hater)


If most of the vault is like 'OLD FRIENDS 4 SALE' (8/10) prepare to be amazed, if it's more like NPG CLUB albums then don't expect much
Reply #42 posted 03/20/17 3:39am

MMJas

Also, Laura, I'd like to address something you said on that first thread which stuck with me. Something along the lines of "look at Mayte's last 20 years and look at Prince's".

Going by what I can see, Mayte adopted a child and is working doing what she loves: teaching bellydancing. In addition to that, she has a dog rescue project. I see her channeling her loss and grief in a tremendously productive manner, by being an intelligent woman looking out for her daughter's future and her own, after her whole world was ripped apart.
Prince is dead. Died all by himself. Alone, keeping up his ever so stubborn appearance that everything was fine. He is no more, he will create no more. Neverthless, that purple pie of his will continue to "feed" many. That is just heartbreaking and sad to the core.

Reply #43 posted 03/20/17 4:08am

Heidi

MMJas said:

Also, Laura, I'd like to address something you said on that first thread which stuck with me. Something along the lines of "look at Mayte's last 20 years and look at Prince's".


 


Going by what I can see, Mayte adopted a child and is working doing what she loves: teaching bellydancing. In addition to that, she has a dog rescue project. I see her channeling her loss and grief in a tremendously productive manner, by being an intelligent woman looking out for her daughter's future and her own, after her whole world was ripped apart.
Prince is dead. Died all by himself. Alone, keeping up his ever so stubborn appearance that everything was fine. He is no more, he will create no more. Neverthless, that purple pie of his will continue to "feed" many. That is just heartbreaking and sad to the core.


yeahthat
Reply #44 posted 03/20/17 4:18am

CherryMoon57

I think we should be grateful that Mayte has taken the time to share her story in a book. I am definitely interested in reading another angle of Prince's life which may even help us understand him better. If the unglamorous details worry you, you still have a choice not to read the book. Most fans have been relentlessly asking for more details about Prince's passing and now they get some details about his life they are scandalized.

As for Mayte, I respect her and her choices. She comes accross as a very spontaneous, energetic, creative and inspiring lady, she's a fighter and whoever criticises her for not working speaks without knowing. She is a professional dance teacher (yes it counts!) used to work really hard whilst touring with Prince and has another job at heart which is to save dog's lives.

Her story could be an interesting one and I am definitely looking forward to reading it. Gossip publications have a tendency to publish the sensational first in order to sell more copies of their own magazine so the decision to publish this information first could have been led or at least influenced by the respective papers' editorial teams.

I wonder if she would receive the same criticism had she been a man writing a book about his celebrity ex-wife...



[Edited 3/20/17 5:02am]

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Reply #45 posted 03/20/17 4:27am

1Sasha

Heidi said:

MMJas said:

Also, Laura, I'd like to address something you said on that first thread which stuck with me. Something along the lines of "look at Mayte's last 20 years and look at Prince's".

Going by what I can see, Mayte adopted a child and is working doing what she loves: teaching bellydancing. In addition to that, she has a dog rescue project. I see her channeling her loss and grief in a tremendously productive manner, by being an intelligent woman looking out for her daughter's future and her own, after her whole world was ripped apart.
Prince is dead. Died all by himself. Alone, keeping up his ever so stubborn appearance that everything was fine. He is no more, he will create no more. Neverthless, that purple pie of his will continue to "feed" many. That is just heartbreaking and sad to the core.

yeahthat

You have spoken the truth.

Reply #46 posted 03/20/17 4:38am

PennyPurple

BillieBalloon said:

ladygirl99 said:

So it looks like so far the book pulled was just some rumor.

Good. I hope the book releases on schedule and don't let people stay scare her into silence of telling her story. I hope she continues to stay strong and focus on her activities with animal rescuing and her well being etc.

You think you make me mad? Dont flatter yourself. smile Im done with you. Enjoy supporting this tarnishing of Princes legacy. When you read where people are calling him a rapist you can just turn away and pretend you didn't read it.

The blame is always everybody else, and not Prince. Tarnishing of Prince's legacy? I think Prince was the maker of his own legacy, if anybody tarnished it, it is him, by his own actions.

Reply #47 posted 03/20/17 4:47am

fortuneandserendipity

"Musically way ahead of any of us" - Elton John on P

"I am a dyed-in-the-wool Englishman!" - Mozart (EU hater)


If most of the vault is like 'OLD FRIENDS 4 SALE' (8/10) prepare to be amazed, if it's more like NPG CLUB albums then don't expect much
Reply #48 posted 03/20/17 4:54am

NouveauDance

rogifan said:

Why is it so important to people that this book come out? Mayte had plenty of opportunities to tell her story when Prince was alive. If it's so important for her story to be told why did she wait until Prince was on the other side to release it?

Regardless of any opinions on her motivations for publishing the book now, it's very likely she was under a gag order or he would've set the lawyers on her if she tried to do so before.

Reply #49 posted 03/20/17 5:03am

Purplestar88

NouveauDance said:

rogifan said:

Why is it so important to people that this book come out? Mayte had plenty of opportunities to tell her story when Prince was alive. If it's so important for her story to be told why did she wait until Prince was on the other side to release it?

Regardless of any opinions on her motivations for publishing the book now, it's very likely she was under a gag order or he would've set the lawyers on her if she tried to do so before.

Her friend claims Prince never stop her from releasing the book. So what is the real story on that?

Reply #50 posted 03/20/17 5:11am

MMJas

Purplestar88 said:

NouveauDance said:

Regardless of any opinions on her motivations for publishing the book now, it's very likely she was under a gag order or he would've set the lawyers on her if she tried to do so before.

Her friend claims Prince never stop her from releasing the book. So what is the real story on that?

Her friend claimed on that podcast that she was asked to do tell all books and refused because she did not want to diss/harm him. And that after Prince's death she could finally do the book in her own terms, meaning no dissing, because everyone would want to publish her book now.
That makes sense to me.

Reply #51 posted 03/20/17 5:19am

Purplestar88

MMJas said:

Purplestar88 said:

Her friend claims Prince never stop her from releasing the book. So what is the real story on that?

Her friend claimed on that podcast that she was asked to do tell all books and refused because she did not want to diss/harm him. And that after Prince's death she could finally do the book in her own terms, meaning no dissing, because everyone would want to publish her book now.
That makes sense to me.

That makes sense but why is some people making it seem like he stop her from doing this and that when it it that the case according to her.

Reply #52 posted 03/20/17 5:25am

NotACleverName

Purplestar88 said:

 



NouveauDance said:


 


rogifan said:


Why is it so important to people that this book come out? Mayte had plenty of opportunities to tell her story when Prince was alive. If it's so important for her story to be told why did she wait until Prince was on the other side to release it?

Regardless of any opinions on her motivations for publishing the book now, it's very likely she was under a gag order or he would've set the lawyers on her if she tried to do so before.



Her friend claims Prince never stop her from releasing the book. So what is the real story on that?


My guess is the real story is as Dave told it.....Mayte was approached by an (unnamed) publisher to write a salacious tell all. She refused based on the fact that she would "never disrespect Prince and their relationship" (paraphrasing). Upon Prince's passing, she was approached again (different publisher) but she advised this new publisher the project would proceed only if she could tell her story in the way she deemed appropriate. He, Dave, also mentioned that she left out details of their time together. Maybe some info she felt would be too controversial or sensitive. Can't say for sure as I am not privy to her thoughts. Dave also mentioned that there was NEVER an NDA between Prince and Mayte. Very telling, imo, in that I feel Prince knew her heart and therefore, was not concerned that she would ever reveal derogatory facts (if any occurred) about their time together.
"Go placidly amid the noise and the haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence......." ~ DESIDERATA ~ Max Ehrmann
Reply #53 posted 03/20/17 5:25am

XxAxX

CherryMoon57 said:

I think we should be grateful that Mayte has taken the time to share her story in a book. I am definitely interested in reading another angle of Prince's life which may even help us understand him better. If the unglamorous details worry you, you still have a choice not to read the book. Most fans have been relentlessly asking for more details about Prince's passing and now they get some details about his life they are scandalized.

As for Mayte, I respect her and her choices. She comes accross as a very spontaneous, energetic, creative and inspiring lady, she's a fighter and whoever criticises her for not working speaks without knowing. She is a professional dance teacher (yes it counts!) used to work really hard whilst touring with Prince and has another job at heart which is to save dog's lives.

Her story could be an interesting one and I am definitely looking forward to reading it. Gossip publications have a tendency to publish the sensational first in order to sell more copies of their own magazine so the decision to publish this information first could have been led or at least influenced by the respective papers' editorial teams.

I wonder if she would receive the same criticism had she been a man writing a book about his celebrity ex-wife...



[Edited 3/20/17 5:02am]


agree. the only people who seem to be supremely whacked up over this book are right here at prince.org

Reply #54 posted 03/20/17 5:26am

Purplestar88

MMJas said:

Purplestar88 said:

Her friend claims Prince never stop her from releasing the book. So what is the real story on that?

Her friend claimed on that podcast that she was asked to do tell all books and refused because she did not want to diss/harm him. And that after Prince's death she could finally do the book in her own terms, meaning no dissing, because everyone would want to publish her book now.
That makes sense to me.

And also dead or alive publishers went juicey and controversial things in the book. It looks like she feed into some of that, so she might as well release it when he was alive since he did not stop her and she is dissing he on the low low in some parts of the book it seems.

Reply #55 posted 03/20/17 5:41am

benni

Purplestar88 said:

MMJas said:

Her friend claimed on that podcast that she was asked to do tell all books and refused because she did not want to diss/harm him. And that after Prince's death she could finally do the book in her own terms, meaning no dissing, because everyone would want to publish her book now.
That makes sense to me.

And also dead or alive publishers went juicey and controversial things in the book. It looks like she feed into some of that, so she might as well release it when he was alive since he did not stop her and she is dissing he on the low low in some parts of the book it seems.


Except while he was alive, publishers only wanted the most controversial storylines. Once he left us, publishers knew any story about Prince would sell, and it wouldn't have to be a tell all. She could dictate her terms as to what she would and would not include in the book once he passed, prior to that, publishers would have wanted the most salacious details and would not have published if they believed it wasn't juicy enough. This is true with any star of worth, especially those stars that are as protective of their image as Prince.

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Reply #56 posted 03/20/17 5:54am

PurpleMusic07

laurarichardson said:

ladygirl99 said:

 



Lovejunky said:


 



ladygirl99 said:


Looks like this thread is still on fire and the book is still not released yet. lol



 


 


Interesting to note that the People who have actually read this book from cover to cover have an entirely different opinion than those who have read excerpts or are specualting on the contents becasue of the Stupid Tabloids..


 


Here two very Positive reviews..


 


For those who look for their Posativity Pills daily...


 


http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/32052074-the-most-beautiful


 


For the others....


DONT READ:: ignore the link...


it might just take you right out of your comfort zone and make you feel happy...



Thanks Lovejunky. I will check it out. I read some of the reviews and one reviewer said it was a great book and Mayte kept some details to herself. And her friend Dave said on that radio show there were lot of things she kept out of the book.


 


So in other words she is still respecting his privacy. I think her book is going to be as non-controversal as Dez and Sheila E books once people gives a chance to read it.


 


Yeah I blame People article. mad


 


1) The Tabs would not have been able to do the damage they did if she had just kept a few tidbits out.
2) She could have told her story without going into the graphic details about baby and if she never saw Prince use drugs why bring it up at all
3) She seems to think that test would have stopped the birth defect which it would not have
4) The whole innocent I was controlled by him is just not belive able to me. Was Prince old school in that the man makes the decisions sure he was but this women worked for him for 4 years before she married him and he was dating several women when he was seeing her. No way did she not know what he was about and still say she is not telling on herself. She needs to take some responsibility for her own actions.
[Edited 3/20/17 1:48am]

re: point #3 about the test she didnt receive i saw tht mentioned in the other thread too and i just want to point out that ya'll are misunderstanding that portion if you think her regret stems from thinking the test wouldve fixed the baby. i think the regret has to do with them leaving it totally to chance the way they did. had she had the test they wouldve known the exact problem much sooner and then they couldve assessed the situation better than they did. a realistic abortion convo couldve been had or at the very least they wouldnt have been shocked by what came out and what ended up happening at the end. i dont blame her at all for feeling the way she does about not having that test.
[Edited 3/20/17 5:56am]
"Where you are now is in a place that does not require time." - Rest In Power, PRINCE
Reply #57 posted 03/20/17 6:22am

wonder505

NotACleverName said:

Purplestar88 said:

Her friend claims Prince never stop her from releasing the book. So what is the real story on that?

My guess is the real story is as Dave told it.....Mayte was approached by an (unnamed) publisher to write a salacious tell all. She refused based on the fact that she would "never disrespect Prince and their relationship" (paraphrasing). Upon Prince's passing, she was approached again (different publisher) but she advised this new publisher the project would proceed only if she could tell her story in the way she deemed appropriate. He, Dave, also mentioned that she left out details of their time together. Maybe some info she felt would be too controversial or sensitive. Can't say for sure as I am not privy to her thoughts. Dave also mentioned that there was NEVER an NDA between Prince and Mayte. Very telling, imo, in that I feel Prince knew her heart and therefore, was not concerned that she would ever reveal derogatory facts (if any occurred) about their time together.

Hmmm interesting. Ofcourse Prince is not around to refute that but interesting.

[Edited 3/20/17 6:41am]

Reply #58 posted 03/20/17 6:47am

Lovejunky

MMJas said:

Also, Laura, I'd like to address something you said on that first thread which stuck with me. Something along the lines of "look at Mayte's last 20 years and look at Prince's".

Going by what I can see, Mayte adopted a child and is working doing what she loves: teaching bellydancing. In addition to that, she has a dog rescue project. I see her channeling her loss and grief in a tremendously productive manner, by being an intelligent woman looking out for her daughter's future and her own, after her whole world was ripped apart.
Prince is dead. Died all by himself. Alone, keeping up his ever so stubborn appearance that everything was fine. He is no more, he will create no more. Neverthless, that purple pie of his will continue to "feed" many. That is just heartbreaking and sad to the core.

I agree....

I dont think that Mayte is being vengeful,

I think shes doing the Best, She knows how....

At the end of the day, I dont think Prince ever met his Match on this earthly realm...

He loved them all and they loved him

THe money means nothing to him..

dont be sad...

Its all about playing his music and tuning IN

“LOVE IS THE MASTERPLAN”
Reply #59 posted 03/20/17 6:58am

SpookyNopetopus

CherryMoon57 said:

I think we should be grateful that Mayte has taken the time to share her story in a book. I am definitely interested in reading another angle of Prince's life which may even help us understand him better. If the unglamorous details worry you, you still have a choice not to read the book. Most fans have been relentlessly asking for more details about Prince's passing and now they get some details about his life they are scandalized.

As for Mayte, I respect her and her choices. She comes accross as a very spontaneous, energetic, creative and inspiring lady, she's a fighter and whoever criticises her for not working speaks without knowing. She is a professional dance teacher (yes it counts!) used to work really hard whilst touring with Prince and has another job at heart which is to save dog's lives.

Her story could be an interesting one and I am definitely looking forward to reading it. Gossip publications have a tendency to publish the sensational first in order to sell more copies of their own magazine so the decision to publish this information first could have been led or at least influenced by the respective papers' editorial teams.

I wonder if she would receive the same criticism had she been a man writing a book about his celebrity ex-wife...



[Edited 3/20/17 5:02am]

Yes, this right here. She's working, she's doing things that are close to her own heart. Is she wandering around all, "Prince! OH PRINCE!" Yeah, she's a little dramatic about it all right now lol. Right along with a lot of the fans here, and anyone else that knew him and worked with him and had relationships of whatever type with him, not even a thing. Is she the perfect person? I seriously doubt it, I just have no time to go digging around in her life for every little detail, like I had no time -- and STILL have no time -- to go digging around for every detail of Prince's life.

Will I read this book? Probably I will, because curious due to all the weeping, railing, and tearing of clothing going on here. We'll see. It's not going to change my opinion of Prince at all -- that he was an awesome musician who gave me something to aspire to when I was a kid. I never would have picked up an instrument at all in high school had I not heard Prince could play 17 instrments (I was like wow I want to do that!). What do I think of him as a person? He was a seriously nutty motherfucker who needed to get out in the real world with real people more, and stop climbing the trees of crazy. I could also see he could be a pretty sweet, gentle, down to earth person who liked to help folks, too. Mostly I liked him, occasionally I wanted to punch him in the face, every once in awhile I wanted someone to put that brat in a corner until he learned to behave himself like a normal person. Guess who made me think all of that about him? Prince himself. lol

I imagine myself inside your bedroom; oh, I imagine myself in your sky.
kitty cop
Reply #60 posted 03/20/17 7:20am

endiadj

Well, this will all be over soon. In a few months the hoopla over her and this book will die down. She'll have earned a few million to take care of herself and daughter. She'll be over her 15 minutes, again, and she won't be able to capitalize off of Prince's name anymore. I look forward to this time.
Reply #61 posted 03/20/17 7:20am

MMJas

PurpleMusic07 said:

laurarichardson said:
1) The Tabs would not have been able to do the damage they did if she had just kept a few tidbits out. 2) She could have told her story without going into the graphic details about baby and if she never saw Prince use drugs why bring it up at all 3) She seems to think that test would have stopped the birth defect which it would not have 4) The whole innocent I was controlled by him is just not belive able to me. Was Prince old school in that the man makes the decisions sure he was but this women worked for him for 4 years before she married him and he was dating several women when he was seeing her. No way did she not know what he was about and still say she is not telling on herself. She needs to take some responsibility for her own actions. [Edited 3/20/17 1:48am]
re: point #3 about the test she didnt receive i saw tht mentioned in the other thread too and i just want to point out that ya'll are misunderstanding that portion if you think her regret stems from thinking the test wouldve fixed the baby. i think the regret has to do with them leaving it totally to chance the way they did. had she had the test they wouldve known the exact problem much sooner and then they couldve assessed the situation better than they did. a realistic abortion convo couldve been had or at the very least they wouldnt have been shocked by what came out and what ended up happening at the end. i dont blame her at all for feeling the way she does about not having that test. [Edited 3/20/17 5:56am]

Exactly my point. Hence Prince's face turning from pure love to horror. In those split seconds, he went from TOTALLY believing God had his back so to speak to... omg. This has just happened.

And that's what angers me concerning him becoming a JW. Nobody should enter a new faith in that state of mind. Nobody should "influence" a person that vulnearable.

I wonder if in later years Prince moved away from that influence in any way and if that's why he began again singing about sex and having a more natural and new wage approach, i.e. clothes, necklaces, sunglasses, mandalas, the stripped down P&M shows?

[Edited 3/20/17 7:22am]

Reply #62 posted 03/20/17 7:41am

laurarichardson

MMJas said:

PurpleMusic07 said:

laurarichardson said: re: point #3 about the test she didnt receive i saw tht mentioned in the other thread too and i just want to point out that ya'll are misunderstanding that portion if you think her regret stems from thinking the test wouldve fixed the baby. i think the regret has to do with them leaving it totally to chance the way they did. had she had the test they wouldve known the exact problem much sooner and then they couldve assessed the situation better than they did. a realistic abortion convo couldve been had or at the very least they wouldnt have been shocked by what came out and what ended up happening at the end. i dont blame her at all for feeling the way she does about not having that test. [Edited 3/20/17 5:56am]

Exactly my point. Hence Prince's face turning from pure love to horror. In those split seconds, he went from TOTALLY believing God had his back so to speak to... omg. This has just happened.

And that's what angers me concerning him becoming a JW. Nobody should enter a new faith in that state of mind. Nobody should "influence" a person that vulnearable.

I wonder if in later years Prince moved away from that influence in any way and if that's why he began again singing about sex and having a more natural and new wage approach, i.e. clothes, necklaces, sunglasses, mandalas, the stripped down P&M shows?

[Edited 3/20/17 7:22am]

He was not a JW at the time the baby was born but he was raised as a Christian. That test could cause a miscarriage and he was okay if the child was a dwarf. I am certain he would not have allowed an abortion. It almost sounds like she wanted to get rid of the child which I doubt was going to happen. At any rate she needs to let this go and I hope after all this dies down in a few months she will take her money and heal.

Reply #63 posted 03/20/17 7:42am

laurarichardson

endiadj said:

Well, this will all be over soon. In a few months the hoopla over her and this book will die down. She'll have earned a few million to take care of herself and daughter. She'll be over her 15 minutes, again, and she won't be able to capitalize off of Prince's name anymore. I look forward to this time.

Exactly, it will be over soon.

Reply #64 posted 03/20/17 7:46am

laurarichardson

Lovejunky said:

MMJas said:

Also, Laura, I'd like to address something you said on that first thread which stuck with me. Something along the lines of "look at Mayte's last 20 years and look at Prince's".

Going by what I can see, Mayte adopted a child and is working doing what she loves: teaching bellydancing. In addition to that, she has a dog rescue project. I see her channeling her loss and grief in a tremendously productive manner, by being an intelligent woman looking out for her daughter's future and her own, after her whole world was ripped apart.
Prince is dead. Died all by himself. Alone, keeping up his ever so stubborn appearance that everything was fine. He is no more, he will create no more. Neverthless, that purple pie of his will continue to "feed" many. That is just heartbreaking and sad to the core.

I agree....

I dont think that Mayte is being vengeful,

I think shes doing the Best, She knows how....

At the end of the day, I dont think Prince ever met his Match on this earthly realm...

He loved them all and they loved him

THe money means nothing to him..

dont be sad...

Its all about playing his music and tuning IN

He sent everybody away so he wanted to be alone. He was doing what he loved to do in the last months of his life. Why can't people accept that. You cannot make someone be what you want to be. Some people do not need or want zillions of people around then all the time. I think you guys forget that he once said he felt like he raised himself since he was 12. I think he got use to being alone at the end of his life or he was really sick ( which everyone keeps discounting) and did not want to be seen in that manner.

Reply #65 posted 03/20/17 7:47am

rogifan

BillieBalloon said:

I read in the previous thread that Apollonia has been harassed by Dave, Maytes friend and she is telling the authorities.



Wow.

Is this the same person that claimed Prince was a bigger drug user than Tommy Lee? lol
Paisley Park is in your heart
#PrinceForever 💜
Reply #66 posted 03/20/17 7:47am

laurarichardson

SpookyNopetopus said:

CherryMoon57 said:

I think we should be grateful that Mayte has taken the time to share her story in a book. I am definitely interested in reading another angle of Prince's life which may even help us understand him better. If the unglamorous details worry you, you still have a choice not to read the book. Most fans have been relentlessly asking for more details about Prince's passing and now they get some details about his life they are scandalized.

As for Mayte, I respect her and her choices. She comes accross as a very spontaneous, energetic, creative and inspiring lady, she's a fighter and whoever criticises her for not working speaks without knowing. She is a professional dance teacher (yes it counts!) used to work really hard whilst touring with Prince and has another job at heart which is to save dog's lives.

Her story could be an interesting one and I am definitely looking forward to reading it. Gossip publications have a tendency to publish the sensational first in order to sell more copies of their own magazine so the decision to publish this information first could have been led or at least influenced by the respective papers' editorial teams.

I wonder if she would receive the same criticism had she been a man writing a book about his celebrity ex-wife...



[Edited 3/20/17 5:02am]

Yes, this right here. She's working, she's doing things that are close to her own heart. Is she wandering around all, "Prince! OH PRINCE!" Yeah, she's a little dramatic about it all right now lol. Right along with a lot of the fans here, and anyone else that knew him and worked with him and had relationships of whatever type with him, not even a thing. Is she the perfect person? I seriously doubt it, I just have no time to go digging around in her life for every little detail, like I had no time -- and STILL have no time -- to go digging around for every detail of Prince's life.

Will I read this book? Probably I will, because curious due to all the weeping, railing, and tearing of clothing going on here. We'll see. It's not going to change my opinion of Prince at all -- that he was an awesome musician who gave me something to aspire to when I was a kid. I never would have picked up an instrument at all in high school had I not heard Prince could play 17 instrments (I was like wow I want to do that!). What do I think of him as a person? He was a seriously nutty motherfucker who needed to get out in the real world with real people more, and stop climbing the trees of crazy. I could also see he could be a pretty sweet, gentle, down to earth person who liked to help folks, too. Mostly I liked him, occasionally I wanted to punch him in the face, every once in awhile I wanted someone to put that brat in a corner until he learned to behave himself like a normal person. Guess who made me think all of that about him? Prince himself. lol

But he was around people. Not one person who knew him in the last twenty years has had anything bad to say and this was long after she was gone. I really do not think she had any idea about his life in the last years.

Reply #67 posted 03/20/17 7:48am

rogifan

NouveauDance said:

 



rogifan said:


Why is it so important to people that this book come out? Mayte had plenty of opportunities to tell her story when Prince was alive. If it's so important for her story to be told why did she wait until Prince was on the other side to release it?

Regardless of any opinions on her motivations for publishing the book now, it's very likely she was under a gag order or he would've set the lawyers on her if she tried to do so before.


Set lawyers on her for what? How could he stop her from releasing a book?
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#PrinceForever 💜
Reply #68 posted 03/20/17 7:48am

rogifan

MMJas said:

 



Purplestar88 said:


 



NouveauDance said:


 


Regardless of any opinions on her motivations for publishing the book now, it's very likely she was under a gag order or he would've set the lawyers on her if she tried to do so before.



Her friend claims Prince never stop her from releasing the book. So what is the real story on that?



 


Her friend claimed on that podcast that she was asked to do tell all books and refused because she did not want to diss/harm him. And that after Prince's death she could finally do the book in her own terms, meaning no dissing, because everyone would want to publish her book now.
That makes sense to me. 


Lame ass excuse.
Paisley Park is in your heart
#PrinceForever 💜
Reply #69 posted 03/20/17 7:48am

laurarichardson

rogifan said:

BillieBalloon said:
I read in the previous thread that Apollonia has been harassed by Dave, Maytes friend and she is telling the authorities. Wow.
Is this the same person that claimed Prince was a bigger drug user than Tommy Lee? lol

Yes, that is the fool. No evidence to back up that claim at all.

Reply #70 posted 03/20/17 7:50am

laurarichardson

rogifan said:

NouveauDance said:

Regardless of any opinions on her motivations for publishing the book now, it's very likely she was under a gag order or he would've set the lawyers on her if she tried to do so before.

Set lawyers on her for what? How could he stop her from releasing a book?

When he was alive he could have sued her for defamation/lible. Stopped her from using his image.

The book company would not have wanted to go there with him.

Reply #71 posted 03/20/17 7:53am

rogifan

laurarichardson said:

 



rogifan said:


BillieBalloon said:
I read in the previous thread that Apollonia has been harassed by Dave, Maytes friend and she is telling the authorities. Wow.

Is this the same person that claimed Prince was a bigger drug user than Tommy Lee? lol

Yes, that is the fool. No evidence to back up that claim at all. 


That's so ridiculous all you can do is laugh. The fact that any member of Mötley Crüe is still alive is amazing. lol
Paisley Park is in your heart
#PrinceForever 💜
Reply #72 posted 03/20/17 8:02am

laurarichardson

rogifan said:

laurarichardson said:

Yes, that is the fool. No evidence to back up that claim at all.

That's so ridiculous all you can do is laugh. The fact that any member of Mötley Crüe is still alive is amazing. lol

They are alive but they look like the walking dead. Drugs fuck up your looks. Prince was skinny at is last days but he did not look like an extra from the Walking Dead. 30 years of MC drug use would have be on his face.

Just shows you how stupid Dave is. This comment along with harrassing Apples and people on Facebook make me look at Mayte with a side eye. You are judged by the company you keep.

Reply #73 posted 03/20/17 8:04am

precioux

rogifan said:

Why is it so important to people that this book come out? Mayte had plenty of opportunities to tell her story when Prince was alive. If it's so important for her story to be told why did she wait until Prince was on the other side to release it?

She did an interview in 2013 and in the interview she stated that she was under a NDA....I'm presuming that's why. If need be, I can try to relocate the article I read last night.

Here is the excerpt:

"Mayte opens with some frightening reasons why we shouldn't talk about her very famous ex-husband-most of which involve the word lawsuit. Also sprinkled in there was something about a confidentiality agreement and how he protects his private life(http://genlux.com/mayte-garcia/)

[Edited 3/20/17 8:35am]

Reply #74 posted 03/20/17 8:08am

precioux

luv4u said:

ladygirl99 said:

Wait a second on the last thread the word is Mayte might pulled the book? Is that possible with the book printed? Sounds like Black Album part 2.



Disregard what that poster posted. They have nothing to back this up.

It is NOT true.

There is nothing on the internet to back this up.

I think that since the original message stating that the book would be pulled came from "herecomesthepurpleyoda", it held some weight to us...JS

Reply #75 posted 03/20/17 8:13am

rednblue

ladygirl99 said:

laurarichardson said:

ladygirl99 said: 1) The Tabs would not have been able to do the damage they did if she had just kept a few tidbits out. 2) She could have told her story without going into the graphic details about baby and if she never saw Prince use drugs why bring it up at all 3) She seems to think that test would have stopped the birth defect which it would not have 4) The whole innocent I was controlled by him is just not belive able to me. Was Prince old school in that the man makes the decisions sure he was but this women worked for him for 4 years before she married him and he was dating several women when he was seeing her. No way did she not know what he was about and still say she is not telling on herself. She needs to take some responsibility for her own actions. [Edited 3/20/17 1:48am]

Most media companies usually have advance copies of books before it release for your INFO. Even if she didn't say anything, People mag is still going to use the excerpts they want to publish. So write to them of your complaint.

And also for the thousandth time, Prince shouldn't get pass with his womanizing or his actions. That is why women in this planet will never be fully equal thanks to other women (male-identifed ones) always overlook a man cheating ways or made excuses but always fault women for the littlest shit. I never said Mayte perfect or innocent as I heard some quesetionable things about her. But she has the right to tell her story of her life with Prince and thats a human rights issue and that is why I have been defending her. And until you start equally held Prince accountable for his actions too, I am going to continue not take your 'concerns' seriously but as a joke. lol

I also do believe he was controlling her even though she was willing to go with it. But come on you know Prince the control story.

And according to that radio interview yesterday with her friend, she isn't thinking about any of her haters. I am sitting laughing at people are blowing hot air and ranting over this book yet Mayte is placing yall on IGNORE and is making whole lot of difference in this world as being an environmentalist (like I am). She doesn't have to take responsible for NOTHING just to prove to some fans bizarre demands.

Thank you!

Reply #76 posted 03/20/17 8:16am

SpookyNopetopus

laurarichardson said:

SpookyNopetopus said:

Yes, this right here. She's working, she's doing things that are close to her own heart. Is she wandering around all, "Prince! OH PRINCE!" Yeah, she's a little dramatic about it all right now lol. Right along with a lot of the fans here, and anyone else that knew him and worked with him and had relationships of whatever type with him, not even a thing. Is she the perfect person? I seriously doubt it, I just have no time to go digging around in her life for every little detail, like I had no time -- and STILL have no time -- to go digging around for every detail of Prince's life.

Will I read this book? Probably I will, because curious due to all the weeping, railing, and tearing of clothing going on here. We'll see. It's not going to change my opinion of Prince at all -- that he was an awesome musician who gave me something to aspire to when I was a kid. I never would have picked up an instrument at all in high school had I not heard Prince could play 17 instrments (I was like wow I want to do that!). What do I think of him as a person? He was a seriously nutty motherfucker who needed to get out in the real world with real people more, and stop climbing the trees of crazy. I could also see he could be a pretty sweet, gentle, down to earth person who liked to help folks, too. Mostly I liked him, occasionally I wanted to punch him in the face, every once in awhile I wanted someone to put that brat in a corner until he learned to behave himself like a normal person. Guess who made me think all of that about him? Prince himself. lol

But he was around people. Not one person who knew him in the last twenty years has had anything bad to say and this was long after she was gone. I really do not think she had any idea about his life in the last years.

Remember, though, that many of the people around him were people he employed or mentored. Not people who would generally put the nope up when he got out of hand. And sometimes, Prince got out of hand. This isn't to say he was the most terrible person ever, just that sometimes he didn't know how to stop being a fool. And no, Mayte probably didn't know about the last years of his life. She's writing about her time with him, not the last years of his life.

To go balls-out hateration on her for that, to me, is silly and unlikely to get people not to read her book or whatever. When I first heard that she was writing a book? I was like, "Whatever, I don't even care." Now, because I've seen you and a few other people throwing such heinous fits about it? I'm curious as to what's so terrible in there that people have to break out the flamethrowers?

Sheila E. wrote a book, and I haven't gone near it, because I don't care.

I haven't read every interview from every person who had contact with him because I don't care.

But this? Because there's such a stink, NOW I want to know. Just sayin'.

I imagine myself inside your bedroom; oh, I imagine myself in your sky.
kitty cop
Reply #77 posted 03/20/17 8:17am

PennyPurple

Purplestar88 said:

MMJas said:

Her friend claimed on that podcast that she was asked to do tell all books and refused because she did not want to diss/harm him. And that after Prince's death she could finally do the book in her own terms, meaning no dissing, because everyone would want to publish her book now.
That makes sense to me.

And also dead or alive publishers went juicey and controversial things in the book. It looks like she feed into some of that, so she might as well release it when he was alive since he did not stop her and she is dissing he on the low low in some parts of the book it seems.

Have you read the book yet?

Reply #78 posted 03/20/17 8:21am

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2

MMJas said:

 



Purplestar88 said:


 



NouveauDance said:


 


Regardless of any opinions on her motivations for publishing the book now, it's very likely she was under a gag order or he would've set the lawyers on her if she tried to do so before.



Her friend claims Prince never stop her from releasing the book. So what is the real story on that?



 


Her friend claimed on that podcast that she was asked to do tell all books and refused because she did not want to diss/harm him. And that after Prince's death she could finally do the book in her own terms, meaning no dissing, because everyone would want to publish her book now.
That makes sense to me. 




do you all not think a good friend of mayte is going to have bias towards her point of view and back up the motive and content of the book? It would have been a much more interesting and fair discussion if they had also included a good friend of prince...
Reply #79 posted 03/20/17 8:21am

PennyPurple

endiadj said:

Well, this will all be over soon. In a few months the hoopla over her and this book will die down. She'll have earned a few million to take care of herself and daughter. She'll be over her 15 minutes, again, and she won't be able to capitalize off of Prince's name anymore. I look forward to this time.

Yep, until Robin or Cat or someone else releases another book.

Reply #80 posted 03/20/17 8:32am

Lovejunky

PurpleMusic07 said:

laurarichardson said:
1) The Tabs would not have been able to do the damage they did if she had just kept a few tidbits out. 2) She could have told her story without going into the graphic details about baby and if she never saw Prince use drugs why bring it up at all 3) She seems to think that test would have stopped the birth defect which it would not have 4) The whole innocent I was controlled by him is just not belive able to me. Was Prince old school in that the man makes the decisions sure he was but this women worked for him for 4 years before she married him and he was dating several women when he was seeing her. No way did she not know what he was about and still say she is not telling on herself. She needs to take some responsibility for her own actions. [Edited 3/20/17 1:48am]
re: point #3 about the test she didnt receive i saw tht mentioned in the other thread too and i just want to point out that ya'll are misunderstanding that portion if you think her regret stems from thinking the test wouldve fixed the baby. i think the regret has to do with them leaving it totally to chance the way they did. had she had the test they wouldve known the exact problem much sooner and then they couldve assessed the situation better than they did. a realistic abortion convo couldve been had or at the very least they wouldnt have been shocked by what came out and what ended up happening at the end. i dont blame her at all for feeling the way she does about not having that test. [Edited 3/20/17 5:56am]

No matter what the outcome of THAY TEST there is no way that prince would have agreed to an elective Abortion..And If you think he would have then you dont understand his faith.

No he didnt allow that test because to him, It didnt matter..he was ready to accept Gods Will...

Must have been hard for Mayte if her faith was not parrallel to his..

“LOVE IS THE MASTERPLAN”
Reply #81 posted 03/20/17 8:35am

Lovejunky

Lovejunky said:

PurpleMusic07 said:

laurarichardson said: re: point #3 about the test she didnt receive i saw tht mentioned in the other thread too and i just want to point out that ya'll are misunderstanding that portion if you think her regret stems from thinking the test wouldve fixed the baby. i think the regret has to do with them leaving it totally to chance the way they did. had she had the test they wouldve known the exact problem much sooner and then they couldve assessed the situation better than they did. a realistic abortion convo couldve been had or at the very least they wouldnt have been shocked by what came out and what ended up happening at the end. i dont blame her at all for feeling the way she does about not having that test. [Edited 3/20/17 5:56am]

No matter what the outcome of THAT TEST there is no way that Prince would have agreed to an elective Abortion..And If you think he would have then you dont understand his faith.

No he didnt allow that test because to him, It didnt matter..he was ready to accept Gods Will...

Must have been hard for Mayte if her faith was not parrallel to his..

“LOVE IS THE MASTERPLAN”
Reply #82 posted 03/20/17 8:46am

rednblue

SpookyNopetopus said:

CherryMoon57 said:

I think we should be grateful that Mayte has taken the time to share her story in a book. I am definitely interested in reading another angle of Prince's life which may even help us understand him better. If the unglamorous details worry you, you still have a choice not to read the book. Most fans have been relentlessly asking for more details about Prince's passing and now they get some details about his life they are scandalized.

As for Mayte, I respect her and her choices. She comes accross as a very spontaneous, energetic, creative and inspiring lady, she's a fighter and whoever criticises her for not working speaks without knowing. She is a professional dance teacher (yes it counts!) used to work really hard whilst touring with Prince and has another job at heart which is to save dog's lives.

Her story could be an interesting one and I am definitely looking forward to reading it. Gossip publications have a tendency to publish the sensational first in order to sell more copies of their own magazine so the decision to publish this information first could have been led or at least influenced by the respective papers' editorial teams.

I wonder if she would receive the same criticism had she been a man writing a book about his celebrity ex-wife...



[Edited 3/20/17 5:02am]

Yes, this right here. She's working, she's doing things that are close to her own heart. Is she wandering around all, "Prince! OH PRINCE!" Yeah, she's a little dramatic about it all right now lol. Right along with a lot of the fans here, and anyone else that knew him and worked with him and had relationships of whatever type with him, not even a thing. Is she the perfect person? I seriously doubt it, I just have no time to go digging around in her life for every little detail, like I had no time -- and STILL have no time -- to go digging around for every detail of Prince's life.

Will I read this book? Probably I will, because curious due to all the weeping, railing, and tearing of clothing going on here. We'll see. It's not going to change my opinion of Prince at all -- that he was an awesome musician who gave me something to aspire to when I was a kid. I never would have picked up an instrument at all in high school had I not heard Prince could play 17 instrments (I was like wow I want to do that!). What do I think of him as a person? He was a seriously nutty motherfucker who needed to get out in the real world with real people more, and stop climbing the trees of crazy. I could also see he could be a pretty sweet, gentle, down to earth person who liked to help folks, too. Mostly I liked him, occasionally I wanted to punch him in the face, every once in awhile I wanted someone to put that brat in a corner until he learned to behave himself like a normal person. Guess who made me think all of that about him? Prince himself. lol

Thank you, CherrryMoon and Spooky for the bolded, and for so many other great points.

Reply #83 posted 03/20/17 8:46am

laurarichardson

PennyPurple said:

endiadj said:

Well, this will all be over soon. In a few months the hoopla over her and this book will die down. She'll have earned a few million to take care of herself and daughter. She'll be over her 15 minutes, again, and she won't be able to capitalize off of Prince's name anymore. I look forward to this time.

Yep, until Robin or Cat or someone else releases another book.

No one is going to be interested as I think they will have to self publish. I think music books about Prince are coming and those are going to be interesting.

Reply #84 posted 03/20/17 8:49am

ladygirl99

NotACleverName said:

Purplestar88 said:

Her friend claims Prince never stop her from releasing the book. So what is the real story on that?

My guess is the real story is as Dave told it.....Mayte was approached by an (unnamed) publisher to write a salacious tell all. She refused based on the fact that she would "never disrespect Prince and their relationship" (paraphrasing). Upon Prince's passing, she was approached again (different publisher) but she advised this new publisher the project would proceed only if she could tell her story in the way she deemed appropriate. He, Dave, also mentioned that she left out details of their time together. Maybe some info she felt would be too controversial or sensitive. Can't say for sure as I am not privy to her thoughts. Dave also mentioned that there was NEVER an NDA between Prince and Mayte. Very telling, imo, in that I feel Prince knew her heart and therefore, was not concerned that she would ever reveal derogatory facts (if any occurred) about their time together.

I have been saying for the longest that Mayte's book is likely going to be as non-controversial (well at least to me) and tame.

I think my old Nancy Drew case book is going to be more graphic than Mayte's. smile

Reply #85 posted 03/20/17 8:52am

thedance

Yes! is the answer... Mayte is such a sweetheart. I love her deeply,

Mayte.. she was an amazing dancer and inspiration in there.. amazing in the NPG, she will never be forgotten, by most fans I believe... "its more hard 2 love than it is 2 hate", where have I heard this phrase before... and why do I write this in here, hmmmm.... really nice gif below, with her stage diving, wow... love love love..... cloud9 those were the days o' wild. nod

fortuneandserendipity said:

Can we not all agree Mayte rocks! headbang


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Reply #86 posted 03/20/17 8:56am

precioux

MMJas said:

PurpleMusic07 said:

laurarichardson said: re: point #3 about the test she didnt receive i saw tht mentioned in the other thread too and i just want to point out that ya'll are misunderstanding that portion if you think her regret stems from thinking the test wouldve fixed the baby. i think the regret has to do with them leaving it totally to chance the way they did. had she had the test they wouldve known the exact problem much sooner and then they couldve assessed the situation better than they did. a realistic abortion convo couldve been had or at the very least they wouldnt have been shocked by what came out and what ended up happening at the end. i dont blame her at all for feeling the way she does about not having that test. [Edited 3/20/17 5:56am]

Exactly my point. Hence Prince's face turning from pure love to horror. In those split seconds, he went from TOTALLY believing God had his back so to speak to... omg. This has just happened.

And that's what angers me concerning him becoming a JW. Nobody should enter a new faith in that state of mind. Nobody should "influence" a person that vulnearable.

I wonder if in later years Prince moved away from that influence in any way and if that's why he began again singing about sex and having a more natural and new wage approach, i.e. clothes, necklaces, sunglasses, mandalas, the stripped down P&M shows?

[Edited 3/20/17 7:22am]

I'm not bashing JW's, BUT...this is EXACTLY how they operate! I have a friend of mine who is a JW (she converted about 15 years ago). IMMIDIATELY after I lost my sister (I'm talking within 2 days), her and her hubby showed up on my front porch step at 8 a.m. dressed to the 9's trying to convert me.( Mind you, I was still crying my eyes out and in my bathrobe)

I respectfully told them that "this was NOT the time", but they INSISTED on entering my house. When I reiterated this scenario to her brother in law (whom I work with), he was furious, and told me "do NOT go to one of those meetings! They are playing on your sympathy and trying to "recruit you". smdh....Looking back, I'm astonished at the gall...she KNEW what kind of pain I was in! I'm guessing this is what Prince fell into sad

Reply #87 posted 03/20/17 9:00am

rednblue

MMJas said:

Also, Laura, I'd like to address something you said on that first thread which stuck with me. Something along the lines of "look at Mayte's last 20 years and look at Prince's".

Going by what I can see, Mayte adopted a child and is working doing what she loves: teaching bellydancing. In addition to that, she has a dog rescue project. I see her channeling her loss and grief in a tremendously productive manner, by being an intelligent woman looking out for her daughter's future and her own, after her whole world was ripped apart.
Prince is dead. Died all by himself. Alone, keeping up his ever so stubborn appearance that everything was fine. He is no more, he will create no more. Neverthless, that purple pie of his will continue to "feed" many. That is just heartbreaking and sad to the core.

Thank you--that stuck with me, too. One thing I loved about Prince was how, as much as he enjoyed joking about people's shoes : ) , he did not come off as a snob. Maybe he had his moments, but he didn't seem an elitist at heart.

Also, wouldn't many religious people, Prince included, believe that it's up to God (not us) to judge the worthiness of someone's "last 20 years"?

Reply #88 posted 03/20/17 9:03am

laurarichardson

SpookyNopetopus said:

laurarichardson said:

But he was around people. Not one person who knew him in the last twenty years has had anything bad to say and this was long after she was gone. I really do not think she had any idea about his life in the last years.

Remember, though, that many of the people around him were people he employed or mentored. Not people who would generally put the nope up when he got out of hand. And sometimes, Prince got out of hand. This isn't to say he was the most terrible person ever, just that sometimes he didn't know how to stop being a fool. And no, Mayte probably didn't know about the last years of his life. She's writing about her time with him, not the last years of his life.

To go balls-out hateration on her for that, to me, is silly and unlikely to get people not to read her book or whatever. When I first heard that she was writing a book? I was like, "Whatever, I don't even care." Now, because I've seen you and a few other people throwing such heinous fits about it? I'm curious as to what's so terrible in there that people have to break out the flamethrowers?

Sheila E. wrote a book, and I haven't gone near it, because I don't care.

I haven't read every interview from every person who had contact with him because I don't care.

But this? Because there's such a stink, NOW I want to know. Just sayin'.

If you want to read the book that is on you. Take responsibility for your actions. As far as his employees plenty of people have spoken about his who did not work for him. Not ever person he encountered worked for him and many who did no longer were working for him in the last years. No reason for these people to say anything good if nothing good every happend.

As far as Mayte is concerned she is acting as if she has the last word which is not possible. She is documenting what was probably the worst time in his life not thinking that people change and evolve. Not really giving him any credit at all.

No one is hating on her. She is in the public space and she is going to be judged just like anyone else. She is throwing shade at people in this book so she should expect some criticism and guess what all of the complaining on this board is not going to change anything. I looked at the Daily Mail today and the comments were really negative I bet there are no orgers making those comments. No right thinking person would not see the profit motive in what she is doing.

[Edited 3/20/17 9:59am]

Reply #89 posted 03/20/17 9:23am

morningsong

rogifan said:

Why is it so important to people that this book come out? Mayte had plenty of opportunities to tell her story when Prince was alive. If it's so important for her story to be told why did she wait until Prince was on the other side to release it?


With all the rumor and innuendo at this point most people want to hear from someone who was at least there. I mean you still have publications calling the baby Boy Gregory even though for almost a year now his name has been known. I mean if one can't get the name right what else are they misinformed about but you can't stop them from putting out into the world anything they want. Most of the rumors aren't even flattering to Prince but so many aren't taking issue with all that. That's what I don't get, why read about anything and everything from any where else but get hurt when you know beyond a reasonable doubt this is coming from someone who was there? At this point I'd rather have a quarter of the truth than a mountain more of other people's stories. If Mayte is lying about doing it out of love we'll see it. If she's not, it'll nip a lot of BS that's going around.
[Edited 3/20/17 9:34am]
“Do I dare Disturb the universe?”
― T.S. Eliot

“Only by acceptance of the past, can you alter it”
― T.S. Eliot
Reply #90 posted 03/20/17 9:35am

PennyPurple

laurarichardson said:

SpookyNopetopus said:

Remember, though, that many of the people around him were people he employed or mentored. Not people who would generally put the nope up when he got out of hand. And sometimes, Prince got out of hand. This isn't to say he was the most terrible person ever, just that sometimes he didn't know how to stop being a fool. And no, Mayte probably didn't know about the last years of his life. She's writing about her time with him, not the last years of his life.

To go balls-out hateration on her for that, to me, is silly and unlikely to get people not to read her book or whatever. When I first heard that she was writing a book? I was like, "Whatever, I don't even care." Now, because I've seen you and a few other people throwing such heinous fits about it? I'm curious as to what's so terrible in there that people have to break out the flamethrowers?

Sheila E. wrote a book, and I haven't gone near it, because I don't care.

I haven't read every interview from every person who had contact with him because I don't care.

But this? Because there's such a stink, NOW I want to know. Just sayin'.

If you want to read the book that is on you. Take responsibility for your actions. As far as his employees pleaty of people have spoken about his who did not work for him. Not ever person he encountered worked for him and many who did no longer were working for him in the last years. No reason for these people to say anything good.

As far as Mayte is concerned she is acting as if she has the last word which is not possible. She is documenting what was probaly the worst time in his life not thinking that people change and evolve. Not really giving him any credit at all.

No one is hating on her. She is in the public space and she is going to be judged just like anyone else. She is throwing shade at people in this book so she should expect some critisim and guess what all of the complaining on this board is not going to change anything. I looked at the Daily Mail today and the comments were really negative I bet there are no orgers making those comments. No right thinking person would not see the profit motive in what she is doing.

You read the bootleg copy, didn't you Laura?

Reply #91 posted 03/20/17 9:41am

MMJas

laurarichardson said:

MMJas said:

Exactly my point. Hence Prince's face turning from pure love to horror. In those split seconds, he went from TOTALLY believing God had his back so to speak to... omg. This has just happened.

And that's what angers me concerning him becoming a JW. Nobody should enter a new faith in that state of mind. Nobody should "influence" a person that vulnearable.

I wonder if in later years Prince moved away from that influence in any way and if that's why he began again singing about sex and having a more natural and new wage approach, i.e. clothes, necklaces, sunglasses, mandalas, the stripped down P&M shows?

[Edited 3/20/17 7:22am]

He was not a JW at the time the baby was born but he was raised as a Christian. That test could cause a miscarriage and he was okay if the child was a dwarf. I am certain he would not have allowed an abortion. It almost sounds like she wanted to get rid of the child which I doubt was going to happen. At any rate she needs to let this go and I hope after all this dies down in a few months she will take her money and heal.

I don't think you understood what I said there, or perhaps I did not make a clear point...

Reply #92 posted 03/20/17 10:03am

Menes

precioux said:

MMJas said:

Exactly my point. Hence Prince's face turning from pure love to horror. In those split seconds, he went from TOTALLY believing God had his back so to speak to... omg. This has just happened.

And that's what angers me concerning him becoming a JW. Nobody should enter a new faith in that state of mind. Nobody should "influence" a person that vulnearable.

I wonder if in later years Prince moved away from that influence in any way and if that's why he began again singing about sex and having a more natural and new wage approach, i.e. clothes, necklaces, sunglasses, mandalas, the stripped down P&M shows?

[Edited 3/20/17 7:22am]

I'm not bashing JW's, BUT...this is EXACTLY how they operate! I have a friend of mine who is a JW (she converted about 15 years ago). IMMIDIATELY after I lost my sister (I'm talking within 2 days), her and her hubby showed up on my front porch step at 8 a.m. dressed to the 9's trying to convert me.( Mind you, I was still crying my eyes out and in my bathrobe)

I respectfully told them that "this was NOT the time", but they INSISTED on entering my house. When I reiterated this scenario to her brother in law (whom I work with), he was furious, and told me "do NOT go to one of those meetings! They are playing on your sympathy and trying to "recruit you". smdh....Looking back, I'm astonished at the gall...she KNEW what kind of pain I was in! I'm guessing this is what Prince fell into sad

Howdy Precioux! About this impromptu meeting you had with the JW contingent, was there a collection plate involved in the conversion process? Lastly, did you inventory your belongings pursuant to the meeting?

Reply #93 posted 03/20/17 10:03am

laurarichardson

PennyPurple said:

laurarichardson said:

If you want to read the book that is on you. Take responsibility for your actions. As far as his employees pleaty of people have spoken about his who did not work for him. Not ever person he encountered worked for him and many who did no longer were working for him in the last years. No reason for these people to say anything good.

As far as Mayte is concerned she is acting as if she has the last word which is not possible. She is documenting what was probaly the worst time in his life not thinking that people change and evolve. Not really giving him any credit at all.

No one is hating on her. She is in the public space and she is going to be judged just like anyone else. She is throwing shade at people in this book so she should expect some critisim and guess what all of the complaining on this board is not going to change anything. I looked at the Daily Mail today and the comments were really negative I bet there are no orgers making those comments. No right thinking person would not see the profit motive in what she is doing.

You read the bootleg copy, didn't you Laura?

Some until the link went dead. I think she should have left personal stuff out and feel she put in stuff to sell books not to heal. That is my opinion as I really think if she did not add certain things she would not have got the book deal.

I mean she did not know he had guardianship of her until recently why put that in the book it had no bearing on the realtionship in her mind because she was not aware of it. So what was the point. Now the media is making him out to be a pedophile even thought he did not put a hand on her until she was 19 years old. I cannot believe she did not know this would happen. I hope she is happy with herself.

Reply #94 posted 03/20/17 10:06am

rednblue

MMJas said:

laurarichardson said:

He was not a JW at the time the baby was born but he was raised as a Christian. That test could cause a miscarriage and he was okay if the child was a dwarf. I am certain he would not have allowed an abortion. It almost sounds like she wanted to get rid of the child which I doubt was going to happen. At any rate she needs to let this go and I hope after all this dies down in a few months she will take her money and heal.

I don't think you understood what I said there, or perhaps I did not make a clear point...

I think I understood your point, MMJas. If so, Prince not being JW when the baby was born was central to it. You said:

"Nobody should enter a new faith in that state of mind. Nobody should "influence" a person that vulnearable."

I couldn't agree more about that sort of manipulation.

Reply #95 posted 03/20/17 10:06am

laurarichardson

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

MMJas said:

Her friend claimed on that podcast that she was asked to do tell all books and refused because she did not want to diss/harm him. And that after Prince's death she could finally do the book in her own terms, meaning no dissing, because everyone would want to publish her book now.
That makes sense to me.

do you all not think a good friend of mayte is going to have bias towards her point of view and back up the motive and content of the book? It would have been a much more interesting and fair discussion if they had also included a good friend of prince...

But that is not going to happen because all of Prince's friends are telling tales and he may not have actually had any friends after he had no life after Mayte left. (LOL)

Reply #96 posted 03/20/17 10:09am

laurarichardson

Menes said:

precioux said:

I'm not bashing JW's, BUT...this is EXACTLY how they operate! I have a friend of mine who is a JW (she converted about 15 years ago). IMMIDIATELY after I lost my sister (I'm talking within 2 days), her and her hubby showed up on my front porch step at 8 a.m. dressed to the 9's trying to convert me.( Mind you, I was still crying my eyes out and in my bathrobe)

I respectfully told them that "this was NOT the time", but they INSISTED on entering my house. When I reiterated this scenario to her brother in law (whom I work with), he was furious, and told me "do NOT go to one of those meetings! They are playing on your sympathy and trying to "recruit you". smdh....Looking back, I'm astonished at the gall...she KNEW what kind of pain I was in! I'm guessing this is what Prince fell into sad

Howdy Precioux! About this impromptu meeting you had with the JW contingent, was there a collection plate involved in the conversion process? Lastly, did you inventory your belongings pursuant to the meeting?

Where did you guys grow up. All Christian denominations reach out to people know matter what is going on. Would have recoiled in horror if Mormons had showed up at your door?

Reply #97 posted 03/20/17 10:10am

precioux

Menes said:

precioux said:

I'm not bashing JW's, BUT...this is EXACTLY how they operate! I have a friend of mine who is a JW (she converted about 15 years ago). IMMIDIATELY after I lost my sister (I'm talking within 2 days), her and her hubby showed up on my front porch step at 8 a.m. dressed to the 9's trying to convert me.( Mind you, I was still crying my eyes out and in my bathrobe)

I respectfully told them that "this was NOT the time", but they INSISTED on entering my house. When I reiterated this scenario to her brother in law (whom I work with), he was furious, and told me "do NOT go to one of those meetings! They are playing on your sympathy and trying to "recruit you". smdh....Looking back, I'm astonished at the gall...she KNEW what kind of pain I was in! I'm guessing this is what Prince fell into sad

Howdy Precioux! About this impromptu meeting you had with the JW contingent, was there a collection plate involved in the conversion process? Lastly, did you inventory your belongings pursuant to the meeting?

Menes...I'm guessing you're trying to be cute with your facetious reply.

NEXT

Reply #98 posted 03/20/17 10:12am

laurarichardson

rednblue said:

MMJas said:

I don't think you understood what I said there, or perhaps I did not make a clear point...

I think I understood your point, MMJas. If so, Prince not being JW when the baby was born was central to it. You said:

"Nobody should enter a new faith in that state of mind. Nobody should "influence" a person that vulnearable."

I couldn't agree more about that sort of manipulation.

No, it is not central to anything. He was a Christian he was not going to abort that baby. Even if he knew all about the defect he still would have had a look of shock on his face. No amount of information in the world could prepare you for that.

Plenty of people do not have that test because it can cause a miscarriage. Do any of you have children? I would not care if my child had 3 heads. This insentiveness is just why she should not have gone into the details.

Reply #99 posted 03/20/17 10:15am

precioux

laurarichardson said:

Menes said:

Howdy Precioux! About this impromptu meeting you had with the JW contingent, was there a collection plate involved in the conversion process? Lastly, did you inventory your belongings pursuant to the meeting?

Where did you guys grow up. All Christian denominations reach out to people know matter what is going on. Would have recoiled in horror if Mormons had showed up at your door?

At that time in my grief, YES! I would've recoiled in horror that ANYONE would just show up at my house UNANNOUNCED at 8 a.m. That is just plain RUDE and DISRESPECTFUL, THEN to come in with bible in hand trying to convert, and quoting scripture, when this person KNEW I was not of that faith...is downright delusional!

Reply #100 posted 03/20/17 10:16am

precioux

rednblue said:

MMJas said:

I don't think you understood what I said there, or perhaps I did not make a clear point...

I think I understood your point, MMJas. If so, Prince not being JW when the baby was born was central to it. You said:

"Nobody should enter a new faith in that state of mind. Nobody should "influence" a person that vulnearable."

I couldn't agree more about that sort of manipulation.

thumbs up!

Reply #101 posted 03/20/17 10:18am

Menes

laurarichardson said:

Menes said:

Howdy Precioux! About this impromptu meeting you had with the JW contingent, was there a collection plate involved in the conversion process? Lastly, did you inventory your belongings pursuant to the meeting?

Where did you guys grow up. All Christian denominations reach out to people know matter what is going on. Would have recoiled in horror if Mormons had showed up at your door?

Other thatn JW , Mormons and maybe the SDA, who elese is knocking on doors without being invited to do so?

Reply #102 posted 03/20/17 10:19am

Menes

precioux said:

Menes said:

Howdy Precioux! About this impromptu meeting you had with the JW contingent, was there a collection plate involved in the conversion process? Lastly, did you inventory your belongings pursuant to the meeting?

Menes...I'm guessing you're trying to be cute with your facetious reply.

NEXT

It was a joke @ the expense of JW but you couldnt see that.

Reply #103 posted 03/20/17 10:20am

precioux

Menes said:

precioux said:

Menes...I'm guessing you're trying to be cute with your facetious reply.

NEXT

It was a joke @ the expense of JW but you couldnt see that.

I apologize, Menes hug heart

Reply #104 posted 03/20/17 10:26am

Heidi

laurarichardson said:

[...]

I looked at the Daily Mail today and the comments were really negative I bet there are no orgers making those comments. No right thinking person would not see the profit motive in what she is doing.

.

Let's not use the DM comments section as a reference for the general public, please! Not to pigeon-hole the entire DM readership, but the comments section on their site is almost always very negative, right-winged, antisocial, often racist, sexist, homophobic, etc. .. That's not a good ference!

Reply #105 posted 03/20/17 10:34am

rednblue

laurarichardson said:

rednblue said:

I think I understood your point, MMJas. If so, Prince not being JW when the baby was born was central to it. You said:

"Nobody should enter a new faith in that state of mind. Nobody should "influence" a person that vulnearable."

I couldn't agree more about that sort of manipulation.

No, it is not central to anything. He was a Christian he was not going to abort that baby. Even if he knew all about the defect he still would have had a look of shock on his face. No amount of information in the world could prepare you for that.

Plenty of people do not have that test because it can cause a miscarriage. Do any of you have children? I would not care if my child had 3 heads. This insentiveness is just why she should not have gone into the details.

I said only that it was central to the point MMJas made. Can MMJas be the judge of whether it was central to MMJas' point?

I have an 11-year-old son who has some strengths that help him. He is in the gifted classes at his school for math, English and other subjects. He also has a genetic condition that has caused him some difficulty and means that he will be very short. Most important of all, he is kind and caring. He has some "dysmorphic" features, and I do not shy away from describing his appearance. I love everything about him, but it doesn't mean I haven't been very afraid at times, as is true for all parents.

Reply #106 posted 03/20/17 10:49am

laurarichardson

precioux said:

laurarichardson said:

Where did you guys grow up. All Christian denominations reach out to people know matter what is going on. Would have recoiled in horror if Mormons had showed up at your door?

At that time in my grief, YES! I would've recoiled in horror that ANYONE would just show up at my house UNANNOUNCED at 8 a.m. That is just plain RUDE and DISRESPECTFUL, THEN to come in with bible in hand trying to convert, and quoting scripture, when this person KNEW I was not of that faith...is downright delusional!

Don't open the door. Plenty of times I not felt like dealing with them.

Reply #107 posted 03/20/17 10:50am

laurarichardson

Heidi said:

laurarichardson said:

[...]

I looked at the Daily Mail today and the comments were really negative I bet there are no orgers making those comments. No right thinking person would not see the profit motive in what she is doing.

.

Let's not use the DM comments section as a reference for the general public, please! Not to pigeon-hole the entire DM readership, but the comments section on their site is almost always very negative, right-winged, antisocial, often racist, sexist, homophobic, etc. .. That's not a good ference!

Well the comments were not fitting into those areas. More along the lines of attacking her motives.

Reply #108 posted 03/20/17 10:56am

laurarichardson

Menes said:

laurarichardson said:

Where did you guys grow up. All Christian denominations reach out to people know matter what is going on. Would have recoiled in horror if Mormons had showed up at your door?

Other thatn JW , Mormons and maybe the SDA, who elese is knocking on doors without being invited to do so?

I asked would she have recoiled in horror if some other denomination had come knocking because others like the ones you just mentioned do.

It is not the big deal she is making it out to be and it is not about taking advantage of anyone. Laser beams are not going to shoot out of anyone's eyes and you will not be hypnotized.

I firmly believed Prince came to Larry for some guidence. I do not believe for one minute a gun was placed to his head. He was serching for something and it would not have been any different if he went back to being a SDA which many of you should know is an offshoot of JWs.

I doubt anything Larry said was strange to him or foreign. From the very begining he was not equally yoaked with Mayte if she did not have faith. They were going to have problems. I am glad he did not walk away from having faith.

Reply #109 posted 03/20/17 11:05am

precioux

laurarichardson said:

 



precioux said:


 



laurarichardson said:


 


Where did you guys grow up. All Christian denominations reach out to people know matter what is going on. Would have recoiled in horror if Mormons had showed up at your door? 


 


 


 


 



At that time in my grief, YES! I would've recoiled in horror that ANYONE would just show up at my house UNANNOUNCED at 8 a.m. That is just plain RUDE and DISRESPECTFUL, THEN to come in with bible in hand trying to convert, and quoting scripture, when this person KNEW I was not of that faith...is downright delusional!



Don't open the door. Plenty of times I not felt like dealing with them. 



Laura, you've got an answer for everything, don't you? If you would've read my initial reply, I stated that this person was a friend of mine..it wasn't until we sat on my living room couch that I realized in my haze of grief that her and her husband's motives were to try to convert me in a time of unbearable vulnerability. And in my statement I iterated that this is what JW's DO! In your time of weakness, they pounce...and I'm sure this is the reason for P's conversion during his time of grief. It's pretty sick if you ask me, especially knowing I'm of a different faith that I am devoted to...and in response to your catty reply of "it's not all she's making it out to be", excuse me?! You were not there, so don't assume! Bottom line is that it was rude, disrespectful of MY FAITH, on top of being HIGHLY INAPPROPRIATE! ..anywho..back on topic! blahblah
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Reply #110 posted 03/20/17 11:06am

rogifan

PennyPurple said:

 



endiadj said:


Well, this will all be over soon. In a few months the hoopla over her and this book will die down. She'll have earned a few million to take care of herself and daughter. She'll be over her 15 minutes, again, and she won't be able to capitalize off of Prince's name anymore. I look forward to this time.

Yep, until Robin or Cat or someone else releases another book.


No one classy is going to release a book.
Paisley Park is in your heart
#PrinceForever 💜
Reply #111 posted 03/20/17 11:07am

Menes

laurarichardson said:

Menes said:

Other thatn JW , Mormons and maybe the SDA, who elese is knocking on doors without being invited to do so?

I asked would she have recoiled in horror if some other denomination had come knocking because others like the ones you just mentioned do.

It is not the big deal she is making it out to be and it is not about taking advantage of anyone. Laser beams are not going to shoot out of anyone's eyes and you will not be hypnotized.

I firmly believed Prince came to Larry for some guidence. I do not believe for one minute a gun was placed to his head. He was serching for something and it would not have been any different if he went back to being a SDA which many of you should know is an offshoot of JWs.

I doubt anything Larry said was strange to him or foreign. From the very begining he was not equally yoaked with Mayte if she did not have faith. They were going to have problems. I am glad he did not walk away from having faith.

I guess he wasn't "equally yoked" with Mani either, but didn't she convert? Is there any truth to JW playing a hand in any of the outcome of these two marriages he had?

Reply #112 posted 03/20/17 11:08am

laurarichardson

rogifan said:

PennyPurple said:

Yep, until Robin or Cat or someone else releases another book.

No one classy is going to release a book.

Well Robyn or Cat have not always shown their classy side (LOL)

Reply #113 posted 03/20/17 11:10am

laurarichardson

precioux said:

laurarichardson said:

Don't open the door. Plenty of times I not felt like dealing with them.

Laura, you've got an answer for everything, don't you? If you would've read my initial reply, I stated that this person was a friend of mine..it wasn't until we sat on my living room couch that I realized in my haze of grief that her and her husband's motives were to try to convert me in a time of unbearable vulnerability. And in my statement I iterated that this is what JW's DO! In your time of weakness, they pounce...and I'm sure this is the reason for P's conversion during his time of grief. It's pretty sick if you ask me, especially knowing I'm of a different faith that I am devoted to...anywho..back on topic!

I think you are wrong about Prince's conversion and you are projecting. He did not met Larry until a year after and I bet he wanted to be converted because he was seeking some answers in a very bad time in his life. Funny you think the JWs were exploiting him and not that first wife/widow of his.

Reply #114 posted 03/20/17 11:11am

iwantcandy

I just want to raise a point about the purpose of an amniocentesis for diagnostic purposes. Yes, there is a risk of miscarriage. It is TINY. A second-trimester amnio has a risk factor of .6%, about half a percent. This is not to say the risk should not be considered or someone's worries are invalid - of course they are valid if that is how they feel. But the implication that miscarriage is a huge tremendous risk with an amnio is simply not true.

Amnios are basically fact-finding missions, and people will do different things with the facts. Just because someone has an amnio does not automatically mean that if the news is bad, they will terminate the pregnancy. Some may choose that route, and there are all sorts of reasons for that, and that is their right. But other people do it knowing that regardless of the outcome they will not terminate - they simply want to know what they are dealing with so they an prepare, mentally, emotionally, medically. I had genetic testing during 2 of my 3 pregnancies due to my age (nowadays you don't have to jump straight to an amnio, they can do a less-invasive blood screen first). I gladly accepted all the tests they offered so that if something did turn up, we could educate ourselves and line up the best medical team in plenty of time. (Thankfully, nothing atypical came up.) That could very well be what Mayte wanted to do, and her wishes were overruled. And you know, Prince's wishes were obviously valid, too.

But the fact remains that poor Amiir lived a short, brutal and painful life. As a parent myself, I can not fathom seeing my baby go through that. I have nothing but the deepest sympathy for Mayte and Prince for having walked through that fire, and I firmly believe Mayte has every right to tell her story in any way she sees fit. It is her story to tell now that Prince is gone.

(Edited for spelling)

[Edited 3/20/17 11:11am]

Reply #115 posted 03/20/17 11:21am

precioux

laurarichardson said:

 



precioux said:


laurarichardson said:

 


Don't open the door. Plenty of times I not felt like dealing with them. 



Laura, you've got an answer for everything, don't you? If you would've read my initial reply, I stated that this person was a friend of mine..it wasn't until we sat on my living room couch that I realized in my haze of grief that her and her husband's motives were to try to convert me in a time of unbearable vulnerability. And in my statement I iterated that this is what JW's DO! In your time of weakness, they pounce...and I'm sure this is the reason for P's conversion during his time of grief. It's pretty sick if you ask me, especially knowing I'm of a different faith that I am devoted to...anywho..back on topic!

I think you are wrong about Prince's conversion and you are projecting. He did not met Larry until a year after and I bet he wanted to be converted because he was seeking some answers in a very bad time in his life. Funny you think the JWs were exploiting him and not that first wife/widow of his. 



EXACTLY HOW would the JW's have "exploited" M1, when P didn't convert until early 2000's, AFTER he divorced M1? You're not making sense...what's new?
Reply #116 posted 03/20/17 11:36am

Heidi

laurarichardson said:

I think you are wrong about Prince's conversion and you are projecting. He did not met Larry until a year after and I bet he wanted to be converted because he was seeking some answers in a very bad time in his life. Funny you think the JWs were exploiting him and not that first wife/widow of his.

He did already know Larry years earlier - as a musician - so they were already acquinaintedn if not friends. So we don't know when the conversion to JW started, but JW's do tend to preach and try to convert others.

Reply #117 posted 03/20/17 11:43am

precioux

Heidi said:

laurarichardson said:

I think you are wrong about Prince's conversion and you are projecting. He did not met Larry until a year after and I bet he wanted to be converted because he was seeking some answers in a very bad time in his life. Funny you think the JWs were exploiting him and not that first wife/widow of his.

He did already know Larry years earlier - as a musician - so they were already acquinaintedn if not friends. So we don't know when the conversion to JW started, but JW's do tend to preach and try to convert others.

Hi Heidi,

It has been stated that P converted sometime between 2001-2003 smile

Reply #118 posted 03/20/17 11:45am

Basco12

rogifan said:

PennyPurple said:

Yep, until Robin or Cat or someone else releases another book.

No one classy is going to release a book.

Agree. I wouldn't have and won't read, but I don't dislike Mayte

Reply #119 posted 03/20/17 12:00pm

annalizer

https://sites.google.com/site/prninterviews/home/ebony-january-1997

I'm reposting this info because I think it might shed some light on why Mayte decided to write her book, and in Maytes defense, Prince almost deifies her when he talks about her impact on his life. The other interviews listed from 1996-2000 answers questions about the divorce/annulment religion etc. their answers are a bit different, but shed even more light about their relationship. Again, in Maytes defense he spoke very highly of her until May of 2000, then married Manuela in December of 2001? I could speculate about what happened and would probably be right, but if I were Mayte I would have a problem with Prince saying those things in public about me, then getting married a short time later? It was obvious there were three people in their relationship and I'm sure as it usually goes, after a while Mayte retaliated which was the finale straw. In my opinion, I don't feel this will be in the book due to for whatever reason, she befriended Manuela, wouldn't expose her to this due to her having a family now.

These are the interviews of interest:

Star Tribune-November 1996-Why he married her.
Ebony -January 1997-How they met.
Blues & Soul December 1999- (odd ending in last statement)
Pulse (Tower Records) February 2000-Spain, divorce/annulment etc.
Instyle May 2000
Reply #120 posted 03/20/17 12:15pm

laurarichardson

annalizer said:

https://sites.google.com/...nuary-1997 I'm reposting this info because I think it might shed some light on why Mayte decided to write her book, and in Maytes defense, Prince almost deifies her when he talks about her impact on his life. The other interviews listed from 1996-2000 answers questions about the divorce/annulment religion etc. their answers are a bit different, but shed even more light about their relationship. Again, in Maytes defense he spoke very highly of her until May of 2000, then married Manuela in December of 2001? I could speculate about what happened and would probably be right, but if I were Mayte I would have a problem with Prince saying those things in public about me, then getting married a short time later? It was obvious there were three people in their relationship and I'm sure as it usually goes, after a while Mayte retaliated which was the finale straw. In my opinion, I don't feel this will be in the book due to for whatever reason, she befriended Manuela, wouldn't expose her to this due to her having a family now. These are the interviews of interest: Star Tribune-November 1996-Why he married her. Ebony -January 1997-How they met. Blues & Soul December 1999- (odd ending in last statement) Pulse (Tower Records) February 2000-Spain, divorce/annulment etc. Instyle May 2000

You are not saying anything that anyone could not figure out. I did not get to the part in the book about M2 but I am sure this is a women scorned getting her revenge. She found out he was going with M2 and retaliated Prince found out and went off the deep end.

He was an old school dude who felt it was okay for him to have more than one women and as long as the women were not seeing other men which is ridiculous.

I think he got butt hurt that she was going with another dude and decided to marry M2 and he made that decision in 2000. I know she said they still spent time together after he announced their annullment (which I still do not know how he got one of those)

I do not know why people do not see infidelity as the reason for burning up her stuff or knocking down his house and taking some of M2s things. I think his wives got tired of his running around and went out and tried to teach him a lesson.

Do not fool yourselves ladies and lot of guys who run around operate in this manner as long as they can do as they please everything is fine but as soon as the women gets with another dude all bets are off. I do not think this is just brothers but I know brothers and this is going to make the shit hit the fan.

I seriously doubt she goes into the detail about her infidelity if she does more power to her.

Reply #121 posted 03/20/17 12:22pm

laurarichardson

Menes said:

laurarichardson said:

I asked would she have recoiled in horror if some other denomination had come knocking because others like the ones you just mentioned do.

It is not the big deal she is making it out to be and it is not about taking advantage of anyone. Laser beams are not going to shoot out of anyone's eyes and you will not be hypnotized.

I firmly believed Prince came to Larry for some guidance. I do not believe for one minute a gun was placed to his head. He was searching for something and it would not have been any different if he went back to being a SDA which many of you should know is an offshoot of JWs.

I doubt anything Larry said was strange to him or foreign. From the very begining he was not equally yoked with Mayte if she did not have faith. They were going to have problems. I am glad he did not walk away from having faith.

I guess he wasn't "equally yoked" with Mani either, but didn't she convert? Is there any truth to JW playing a hand in any of the outcome of these two marriages he had?

No probaly not. I remember an rumor were someone said she really did not like those hollywood parties he would have when they were in L.A. She thought they were going to do charity work together and who knows he may have told her that but Musicology came along and he made big dollars. Started to get in that party life again.

I just think he made bad decisions when it came to women and the whole Hugh Hefner/Sister Wives nonsense would dome any relationship to failure.

Reply #122 posted 03/20/17 12:29pm

AnnaSantana

Sigh, they're calling Prince a pedophile on lipstickalley.com. sad

I shouldn't let it bother me, as I know it's not true, but, still....

Just fun....nothing ethereal.
Reply #123 posted 03/20/17 12:36pm

annalizer

laurarichardson said:

 



annalizer said:


https://sites.google.com/site/prninterviews/home/ebony-january-1997 I'm reposting this info because I think it might shed some light on why Mayte decided to write her book, and in Maytes defense, Prince almost deifies her when he talks about her impact on his life. The other interviews listed from 1996-2000 answers questions about the divorce/annulment religion etc. their answers are a bit different, but shed even more light about their relationship. Again, in Maytes defense he spoke very highly of her until May of 2000, then married Manuela in December of 2001? I could speculate about what happened and would probably be right, but if I were Mayte I would have a problem with Prince saying those things in public about me, then getting married a short time later? It was obvious there were three people in their relationship and I'm sure as it usually goes, after a while Mayte retaliated which was the finale straw. In my opinion, I don't feel this will be in the book due to for whatever reason, she befriended Manuela, wouldn't expose her to this due to her having a family now. These are the interviews of interest: Star Tribune-November 1996-Why he married her. Ebony -January 1997-How they met. Blues & Soul December 1999- (odd ending in last statement) Pulse (Tower Records) February 2000-Spain, divorce/annulment etc. Instyle May 2000

You are not saying anything that  anyone could not figure out. I did not get to the part in the book about M2 but I am sure this is a women scorned getting her revenge. She found out he was going with M2 and retaliated Prince found out and went off the deep end.


 


He was an old school dude who felt it was okay for him to have more than one women and as long as the women were not seeing other men which is  ridiculous.


 


I think  he got butt hurt that she was going with another dude and decided to marry M2 and he made that decision in 2000.  I know she said they still spent time together after he announced their annullment (which I still do not know how he got one of those) 


 


I do not know why people do not see infidelity as the reason for burning up her stuff or knocking down his house and taking some of M2s things. I think his wives got tired of his running around and went out and tried to teach him a lesson.


 


Do not fool yourselves ladies and lot of guys who run around operate in this manner as long as they can do as they please everything is fine but as soon as the women gets with another dude all bets are off.   I do not think this is just brothers but I know brothers and this is going to make the shit hit the fan. 


 


I seriously doubt she goes into the detail about her infidelity if she does more power to her.



You right, you right! My father was one of them and we love him, but his antics have had a lasting effect.smh
Reply #124 posted 03/20/17 12:39pm

annalizer

AnnaSantana said:

Sigh, they're calling Prince a pedophile on lipstickalley.com.  sad


 


I shouldn't let it bother me, as I know it's not true, but, still....



Obviously these people don't understand the law, although Prince did. He may have been horny, but he wasn't stupid!
Reply #125 posted 03/20/17 12:49pm

MMJas

laurarichardson said:

rednblue said:

I think I understood your point, MMJas. If so, Prince not being JW when the baby was born was central to it. You said:

"Nobody should enter a new faith in that state of mind. Nobody should "influence" a person that vulnearable."

I couldn't agree more about that sort of manipulation.

No, it is not central to anything. He was a Christian he was not going to abort that baby. Even if he knew all about the defect he still would have had a look of shock on his face. No amount of information in the world could prepare you for that.

Plenty of people do not have that test because it can cause a miscarriage. Do any of you have children? I would not care if my child had 3 heads. This insentiveness is just why she should not have gone into the details.

That's not what I was referring to at all, Laura. I think Prince's face of terror came from a place where before he had felt certain God had his back, that's how strong his faith was. He did not expect his son to be so deformed because basically apparently the doctors had only prepared them for the dwarfism possibility. What baby Amir had was much, much worse.

I never said anything about an abortion. I have no idea if they would have gone down that road. Nobody does, besides them and probably immediate family. It's getting really tiring hearing people who did not know him personally state things as facts, especially intimate thoughts, decisions and opinions from a man not many knew intimately.

We have no way of knowing what his thoughts were. Not even Mayte, who was his wife for 10 years and endured that terrible pain and loss with him, went there. Not even she suggests he was thinking this or that, feeling this or that. She says he prayed before his birth. He never let his son alone throughout the whole week long ordeal, even sparing her the worst part.
And then, while he's down, perhaps feeling conflicted about his own faith, about his own choices, perhaps, someone comes along and... you know the rest.

[Edited 3/20/17 12:52pm]

Reply #126 posted 03/20/17 12:52pm

ladygirl99

MMJas said:

laurarichardson said:

No, it is not central to anything. He was a Christian he was not going to abort that baby. Even if he knew all about the defect he still would have had a look of shock on his face. No amount of information in the world could prepare you for that.

Plenty of people do not have that test because it can cause a miscarriage. Do any of you have children? I would not care if my child had 3 heads. This insentiveness is just why she should not have gone into the details.

That's not what I was referring to at all, Laura. I think Prince's face of terror came from a place where before he had felt certain God had his back, that's how strong his faith was. He did not expect his son to be so deformed because basically apparently the doctors had only prepared them for the dwarfism possibility. What baby Amir had was much, much worse.

I never said anything about an abortion. I have no idea if they would have gone down that road. Nobody does, besides them and probably immediate family. It's getting really tiring hearing people who did not know him personally state things as facts, especially intimate thoughts, decisions and opinions from a man not many knew intimately.

We have no way of knowing what his thoughts were. Not even Mayte, who was his wife for 10 years and endured that terrible pain and loss with him, went there. Nor even she suggests he was thinking this or that, feeling this or that. She says he prayed before his birth. He never let his son alone throughout the whole week long ordeal, even sparing her the worst part.
And then, while he's down, perhaps feeling conflicted about his own faith, about his own choices, perhaps, someone comes along and... you know the rest.

yeahthat

Reply #127 posted 03/20/17 12:53pm

MMJas

precioux said:

rednblue said:

I think I understood your point, MMJas. If so, Prince not being JW when the baby was born was central to it. You said:

"Nobody should enter a new faith in that state of mind. Nobody should "influence" a person that vulnearable."

I couldn't agree more about that sort of manipulation.

thumbs up!

Exactly. Thank you, for a minute there I thought my English was letting me down.

[Edited 3/20/17 13:01pm]

Reply #128 posted 03/20/17 1:01pm

BillieBalloon

MMJas said:

 



laurarichardson said:


 



rednblue said:


 


 


I think I understood your point, MMJas.  If so, Prince not being JW when the baby was born was central to it.  You said:


 


"Nobody should enter a new faith in that state of mind. Nobody should "influence" a person that vulnearable."


 


 


 


I couldn't agree more about that sort of manipulation.



No, it is not central to anything. He was a Christian he was not going to abort that baby. Even if he knew all about the defect he still would have had a look of shock on his face. No amount of information in the world could prepare you for that. 


 


Plenty of people do not have that test because it can cause a miscarriage. Do any of you have children?   I would not care if my child had 3 heads.  This insentiveness is just why she should not have gone into the details. 



 


That's not what I was referring to at all, Laura.  I think Prince's face of terror came from a place where before he had felt certain God had his back, that's how strong his faith was. He did not expect his son to be so deformed because basically apparently the doctors had only prepared them for the dwarfism possibility. What baby Amir had was much, much worse.


 


I never said anything about an abortion. I have no idea if they would have gone down that road. Nobody does, besides them and probably immediate family. It's getting really tiring hearing people who did not know him personally state things as facts, especially intimate thoughts, decisions and opinions from a man not many knew intimately.


 


 We have no way of knowing what his thoughts were. Not even Mayte, who was his wife for 10 years and endured that terrible pain and loss with him, went there. Not even she suggests he was thinking this or that, feeling this or that. She says he prayed before his birth. He never let his son alone throughout the whole week long ordeal, even sparing her the worst part. 
And then, while he's down, perhaps feeling conflicted about his own faith, about his own choices, perhaps, someone comes along and... you know the rest. 

[Edited 3/20/17 12:52pm]




Prince and Mayte married 14th feb 1996. Their marriage was annulled in 1998 and the whole thing was officially over in 2000.

.
[Edited 3/20/17 13:08pm]
Baby, you're a star.

Meet me in another world, space and joy
Reply #129 posted 03/20/17 1:03pm

CatB

purplethunder3121 said:

CatB said:

Menes said:

Please don't write a book. biggrin


Actually I have been writing about it.


Uh, oh. Here, we go. lol



lol

Don't worry, some people actually only write to process things. What I share is for free, there's no cashing in on him. I made a promise to him that I intend to keep.



"Time is space spent with U"
Reply #130 posted 03/20/17 1:07pm

rogifan

laurarichardson said:

 



rogifan said:


PennyPurple said:

 


Yep, until Robin or Cat or someone else releases another book.



No one classy is going to release a book.

 


Well Robyn or Cat have not always shown their classy side (LOL) 


My comment didn't mean they were classy....kind of the opposite. wink
Paisley Park is in your heart
#PrinceForever 💜
Reply #131 posted 03/20/17 1:08pm

Heidi

precioux said:

Heidi said:

He did already know Larry years earlier - as a musician - so they were already acquinaintedn if not friends. So we don't know when the conversion to JW started, but JW's do tend to preach and try to convert others.

Hi Heidi,

It has been stated that P converted sometime between 2001-2003 smile

Yes I know that ... I remember! But that is when he officially converted. He did interviews with Mayte, Larry and Chaka already in 1998, so clearly he and Larry were already close friends at that point. Look it up - it's on youTube. So who says they weren't already friends in late 1996, when Prince was grieving ? Who says Larry wasn't already a close friend at that point ?

Reply #132 posted 03/20/17 1:18pm

joytotheworld

CatB said:

purplethunder3121 said:

Uh, oh. Here, we go. lol



lol

Don't worry, some people actually only write to process things. What I share is for free, there's no cashing in on him. I made a promise to him that I intend to keep.



I hope you will decide to share it one day whenever you are ready and if you ever decide to share it. Peace.

Reply #133 posted 03/20/17 1:29pm

MMJas

Heidi said:

precioux said:

Hi Heidi,

It has been stated that P converted sometime between 2001-2003 smile

Yes I know that ... I remember! But that is when he officially converted. He did interviews with Mayte, Larry and Chaka already in 1998, so clearly he and Larry were already close friends at that point. Look it up - it's on youTube. So who says they weren't already friends in late 1996, when Prince was grieving ? Who says Larry wasn't already a close friend at that point ?

Exactly. Give the man (Prince) some credit, I'm sure he did not convert before he was fully... can't seem to find the word in English...

[Edited 3/20/17 13:43pm]

Reply #134 posted 03/20/17 2:27pm

HerecomethePurpleYoda

luv4u said:

ladygirl99 said:

Wait a second on the last thread the word is Mayte might pulled the book? Is that possible with the book printed? Sounds like Black Album part 2.



Disregard what that poster posted. They have nothing to back this up.

It is NOT true.

There is nothing on the internet to back this up.

Why do we need something on the internet to back this up?

Maybe it's not on the internet?

Maybe it's true?

Maybe we know Mayte?

Maybe it will snow next month?

Reply #135 posted 03/20/17 2:30pm

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2

HerecomethePurpleYoda said:

 



luv4u said:


 



ladygirl99 said:


Wait a second on the last thread the word is Mayte might pulled the book? Is that possible with the book printed? Sounds like Black Album part 2.





Disregard what that poster posted.  They have nothing to back this up.

It is NOT true. 


 


There is nothing on the internet to back this up.



 


 


Why do we need something on the internet to back this up?


Maybe it's not on the internet?


Maybe it's true?


Maybe we know Mayte?


Maybe it will snow next month?






From yoda's mouth to allah's ears...
Reply #136 posted 03/20/17 2:48pm

laurarichardson

MMJas said:

 



laurarichardson said:


 



rednblue said:


 


 


I think I understood your point, MMJas.  If so, Prince not being JW when the baby was born was central to it.  You said:


 


"Nobody should enter a new faith in that state of mind. Nobody should "influence" a person that vulnearable."


 


 


 


I couldn't agree more about that sort of manipulation.



No, it is not central to anything. He was a Christian he was not going to abort that baby. Even if he knew all about the defect he still would have had a look of shock on his face. No amount of information in the world could prepare you for that. 


 


Plenty of people do not have that test because it can cause a miscarriage. Do any of you have children?   I would not care if my child had 3 heads.  This insentiveness is just why she should not have gone into the details. 



 


That's not what I was referring to at all, Laura.  I think Prince's face of terror came from a place where before he had felt certain God had his back, that's how strong his faith was. He did not expect his son to be so deformed because basically apparently the doctors had only prepared them for the dwarfism possibility. What baby Amir had was much, much worse.


 


I never said anything about an abortion. I have no idea if they would have gone down that road. Nobody does, besides them and probably immediate family. It's getting really tiring hearing people who did not know him personally state things as facts, especially intimate thoughts, decisions and opinions from a man not many knew intimately.


 


 We have no way of knowing what his thoughts were. Not even Mayte, who was his wife for 10 years and endured that terrible pain and loss with him, went there. Not even she suggests he was thinking this or that, feeling this or that. She says he prayed before his birth. He never let his son alone throughout the whole week long ordeal, even sparing her the worst part. 
And then, while he's down, perhaps feeling conflicted about his own faith, about his own choices, perhaps, someone comes along and... you know the rest. 

[Edited 3/20/17 12:52pm]


If I had no way of knowing what his thoughts were then you have no way of knowing his thoughts when he saw his son. I do not believe he felt conflicted I believe he had faith to his dying day and many of his own comments out if own back up what I am saying. I know it is cool to knock religion but I believe he was always a Christian.
Reply #137 posted 03/20/17 2:49pm

morningsong

HerecomethePurpleYoda said:

luv4u said:



Disregard what that poster posted. They have nothing to back this up.

It is NOT true.

There is nothing on the internet to back this up.

Why do we need something on the internet to back this up?

Maybe it's not on the internet?

Maybe it's true?

Maybe we know Mayte?

Maybe it will snow next month?




Oh that's what you meant. It was a wish statement.

“Do I dare Disturb the universe?”
― T.S. Eliot

“Only by acceptance of the past, can you alter it”
― T.S. Eliot
Reply #138 posted 03/20/17 2:56pm

Menes

CatB said:

purplethunder3121 said:

Uh, oh. Here, we go. lol



lol

Don't worry, some people actually only write to process things. What I share is for free, there's no cashing in on him. I made a promise to him that I intend to keep.



Must've been a fair amount of time that you spent with him . From what you've shared here, it doesn't seem as though you would be writing it for nefarious or monetary purposes. What is the format that you will be releasing it in?

Reply #139 posted 03/20/17 3:16pm

PennyPurple

HerecomethePurpleYoda said:

luv4u said:



Disregard what that poster posted. They have nothing to back this up.

It is NOT true.

There is nothing on the internet to back this up.

Why do we need something on the internet to back this up?

Maybe it's not on the internet?

Maybe it's true?

Maybe we know Mayte?

Maybe it will snow next month?

Nah, I don't believe she'll pull it.

Reply #140 posted 03/20/17 3:19pm

moonsister

CatB said:

 



purplethunder3121 said:


 



CatB said:


 


 



Menes said:


 


Please don't write a book.  biggrin


 



 


 



Actually I have been writing about it.



 



 


 


Uh, oh.  Here, we go. lol



 


 




lol

Don't worry, some people actually only write to process things. What I share is for free, there's no cashing in on him. I made a promise to him that I intend to keep.





Please start your own thread, butting in with a response to an old comment is making you seem desperate for attention.
Reply #141 posted 03/20/17 3:20pm

ladygirl99

HerecomethePurpleYoda said:

luv4u said:



Disregard what that poster posted. They have nothing to back this up.

It is NOT true.

There is nothing on the internet to back this up.

Why do we need something on the internet to back this up?

Maybe it's not on the internet?

Maybe it's true?

Maybe we know Mayte?

Maybe it will snow next month?

Whatever, unless we get more than so-called one source, I am going to continue to treat it as that book will be released next month.

Reply #142 posted 03/20/17 3:34pm

Menes

annalizer said:

https://sites.google.com/...nuary-1997 I'm reposting this info because I think it might shed some light on why Mayte decided to write her book, and in Maytes defense, Prince almost deifies her when he talks about her impact on his life. The other interviews listed from 1996-2000 answers questions about the divorce/annulment religion etc. their answers are a bit different, but shed even more light about their relationship. Again, in Maytes defense he spoke very highly of her until May of 2000, then married Manuela in December of 2001? I could speculate about what happened and would probably be right, but if I were Mayte I would have a problem with Prince saying those things in public about me, then getting married a short time later? It was obvious there were three people in their relationship and I'm sure as it usually goes, after a while Mayte retaliated which was the finale straw. In my opinion, I don't feel this will be in the book due to for whatever reason, she befriended Manuela, wouldn't expose her to this due to her having a family now. These are the interviews of interest: Star Tribune-November 1996-Why he married her. Ebony -January 1997-How they met. Blues & Soul December 1999- (odd ending in last statement) Pulse (Tower Records) February 2000-Spain, divorce/annulment etc. Instyle May 2000

I'm still trying to wrap my noggin around why the marriage was annuled? Was it a religious annulment? I know some catholics who have engaged in the practice of such. Seems like right after the miscarriage, things went south quite quickly. 3 years of marriage- 2 unfortunate incidents, and wham! Annuled.

Reply #143 posted 03/20/17 3:40pm

SpookyNopetopus

laurarichardson said:

Menes said:

Other thatn JW , Mormons and maybe the SDA, who elese is knocking on doors without being invited to do so?

I asked would she have recoiled in horror if some other denomination had come knocking because others like the ones you just mentioned do.

It is not the big deal she is making it out to be and it is not about taking advantage of anyone. Laser beams are not going to shoot out of anyone's eyes and you will not be hypnotized.

I firmly believed Prince came to Larry for some guidence. I do not believe for one minute a gun was placed to his head. He was serching for something and it would not have been any different if he went back to being a SDA which many of you should know is an offshoot of JWs.

I doubt anything Larry said was strange to him or foreign. From the very begining he was not equally yoaked with Mayte if she did not have faith. They were going to have problems. I am glad he did not walk away from having faith.

I disagree with you on a lot of things in this thread, Laura, but here is one instance where I totally agree with you. What the hell, why are people blaming Larry Graham for Prince being a JW? Seriously, either Prince was a grown ass man able to make decisions for himself or he wasn't. Pick one, people, pick one. That whole line of anti-reasoning is just... it's ridiculous.

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Reply #144 posted 03/20/17 3:46pm

annalizer

Menes said:

 



annalizer said:


https://sites.google.com/site/prninterviews/home/ebony-january-1997 I'm reposting this info because I think it might shed some light on why Mayte decided to write her book, and in Maytes defense, Prince almost deifies her when he talks about her impact on his life. The other interviews listed from 1996-2000 answers questions about the divorce/annulment religion etc. their answers are a bit different, but shed even more light about their relationship. Again, in Maytes defense he spoke very highly of her until May of 2000, then married Manuela in December of 2001? I could speculate about what happened and would probably be right, but if I were Mayte I would have a problem with Prince saying those things in public about me, then getting married a short time later? It was obvious there were three people in their relationship and I'm sure as it usually goes, after a while Mayte retaliated which was the finale straw. In my opinion, I don't feel this will be in the book due to for whatever reason, she befriended Manuela, wouldn't expose her to this due to her having a family now. These are the interviews of interest: Star Tribune-November 1996-Why he married her. Ebony -January 1997-How they met. Blues & Soul December 1999- (odd ending in last statement) Pulse (Tower Records) February 2000-Spain, divorce/annulment etc. Instyle May 2000

I'm still trying to wrap my noggin around why the marriage was annuled? Was it a religious annulment? I know some catholics who have engaged in the practice of such. Seems like right after the miscarriage, things went south quite quickly. 3 years of marriage- 2 unfortunate incidents, and wham! Annuled.



Yeah. It was quick. The annulment could have been a legal (financial)matter and in consistent Prince patterns, he might like/love you, but half? I don't think so.
Reply #145 posted 03/20/17 3:52pm

disch

FYI "annulment" as a legal matter is pretty limited; it really only applies to situations where there was fraud involved (for example one spouse was still married to someone else).

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Despite what Prince said, what he and Mayte did was "divorce."

annalizer said:

Menes said:

I'm still trying to wrap my noggin around why the marriage was annuled? Was it a religious annulment? I know some catholics who have engaged in the practice of such. Seems like right after the miscarriage, things went south quite quickly. 3 years of marriage- 2 unfortunate incidents, and wham! Annuled.

Yeah. It was quick. The annulment could have been a legal (financial)matter and in consistent Prince patterns, he might like/love you, but half? I don't think so.

Reply #146 posted 03/20/17 3:57pm

annalizer

SpookyNopetopus said:

 



laurarichardson said:


 



Menes said:


 


Other thatn JW , Mormons and maybe the SDA, who elese is knocking on doors without being invited to do so?



I asked would she have recoiled in horror if some other denomination had come knocking because others like the ones you just mentioned do.  


 


It is not the big deal she is making it out to be and it is not about taking advantage of anyone. Laser beams are not going to shoot out of anyone's eyes and you will not be hypnotized. 


 


I firmly believed Prince came to Larry for some guidence. I do not believe for one minute a gun was placed to his head. He was serching for something and it would not have been any different if he went back to being a SDA which many of you should know is an offshoot of JWs. 


 


I doubt anything Larry said was strange to him or foreign. From the very begining he was not equally yoaked with Mayte if she did not have faith. They were going to have problems. I am glad he did not walk away from having faith. 



I disagree with you on a lot of things in this thread, Laura, but here is one instance where I totally agree with you. What the hell, why are people blaming Larry Graham for Prince being a JW? Seriously, either Prince was a grown ass man able to make decisions for himself or he wasn't. Pick one, people, pick one. That whole line of anti-reasoning is just... it's ridiculous. 



I agree. There were three people that had major personal influences in his life. His Father, Mayte and Larry. These are the only people in his own words,he deeply connected with, but with the latter two in time he seemed to wean himself spirituality off of.
Reply #147 posted 03/20/17 4:01pm

annalizer

disch said:

FYI "annulment" as a legal matter is pretty limited; it really only applies to situations where there was fraud involved (for example one spouse was still married to someone else).


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Despite what Prince said, what he and Mayte did was "divorce."



annalizer said:


Menes said:

 


I'm still trying to wrap my noggin around why the marriage was annuled? Was it a religious annulment? I know some catholics who have engaged in the practice of such. Seems like right after the miscarriage, things went south quite quickly. 3 years of marriage- 2 unfortunate incidents, and wham! Annuled.



Yeah. It was quick. The annulment could have been a legal (financial)matter and in consistent Prince patterns, he might like/love you, but half? I don't think so.

 


I don't know anything about annulments,but why Prince & Mayte kept referring to it and then an actual divorce is strange.
Reply #148 posted 03/20/17 4:12pm

206Michelle

CherryMoon57 said:

I think we should be grateful that Mayte has taken the time to share her story in a book. I am definitely interested in reading another angle of Prince's life which may even help us understand him better. If the unglamorous details worry you, you still have a choice not to read the book. Most fans have been relentlessly asking for more details about Prince's passing and now they get some details about his life they are scandalized.

As for Mayte, I respect her and her choices. She comes accross as a very spontaneous, energetic, creative and inspiring lady, she's a fighter and whoever criticises her for not working speaks without knowing. She is a professional dance teacher (yes it counts!) used to work really hard whilst touring with Prince and has another job at heart which is to save dog's lives.

Her story could be an interesting one and I am definitely looking forward to reading it. Gossip publications have a tendency to publish the sensational first in order to sell more copies of their own magazine so the decision to publish this information first could have been led or at least influenced by the respective papers' editorial teams.

I wonder if she would receive the same criticism had she been a man writing a book about his celebrity ex-wife...



[Edited 3/20/17 5:02am]

yes You wrote your thoughts beautifully, CherryMoon. I totally agree!

Don't die without knowing the cross.
Reply #149 posted 03/20/17 4:19pm

BillieBalloon

NotACleverName said:

Purplestar88 said:

 



NouveauDance said:


 


rogifan said:


Why is it so important to people that this book come out? Mayte had plenty of opportunities to tell her story when Prince was alive. If it's so important for her story to be told why did she wait until Prince was on the other side to release it?

Regardless of any opinions on her motivations for publishing the book now, it's very likely she was under a gag order or he would've set the lawyers on her if she tried to do so before.



Her friend claims Prince never stop her from releasing the book. So what is the real story on that?


My guess is the real story is as Dave told it.....Mayte was approached by an (unnamed) publisher to write a salacious tell all. She refused based on the fact that she would "never disrespect Prince and their relationship" (paraphrasing). Upon Prince's passing, she was approached again (different publisher) but she advised this new publisher the project would proceed only if she could tell her story in the way she deemed appropriate. He, Dave, also mentioned that she left out details of their time together. Maybe some info she felt would be too controversial or sensitive. Can't say for sure as I am not privy to her thoughts. Dave also mentioned that there was NEVER an NDA between Prince and Mayte. Very telling, imo, in that I feel Prince knew her heart and therefore, was not concerned that she would ever reveal derogatory facts (if any occurred) about their time together.



Why does these article from 24.06.2015 say shes writing a book if she never agreed to do one before Prince died?



http://rhythmraveradio.com/?p=5494


http://www.centrictv.com/entertainment/celebrity-news/articles/2015/06/24/prince-s-ex-wife-to-pen-a-tell-all.html


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[Edited 3/20/17 16:32pm]
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Reply #150 posted 03/20/17 4:19pm

206Michelle

benni said:

Purplestar88 said:

And also dead or alive publishers went juicey and controversial things in the book. It looks like she feed into some of that, so she might as well release it when he was alive since he did not stop her and she is dissing he on the low low in some parts of the book it seems.


Except while he was alive, publishers only wanted the most controversial storylines. Once he left us, publishers knew any story about Prince would sell, and it wouldn't have to be a tell all. She could dictate her terms as to what she would and would not include in the book once he passed, prior to that, publishers would have wanted the most salacious details and would not have published if they believed it wasn't juicy enough. This is true with any star of worth, especially those stars that are as protective of their image as Prince.

benni, great points about the dynamics of selling the book.

Don't die without knowing the cross.
Reply #151 posted 03/20/17 4:38pm

206Michelle

laurarichardson said:

MMJas said:

Exactly my point. Hence Prince's face turning from pure love to horror. In those split seconds, he went from TOTALLY believing God had his back so to speak to... omg. This has just happened.

And that's what angers me concerning him becoming a JW. Nobody should enter a new faith in that state of mind. Nobody should "influence" a person that vulnearable.

I wonder if in later years Prince moved away from that influence in any way and if that's why he began again singing about sex and having a more natural and new wage approach, i.e. clothes, necklaces, sunglasses, mandalas, the stripped down P&M shows?

[Edited 3/20/17 7:22am]

He was not a JW at the time the baby was born but he was raised as a Christian. That test could cause a miscarriage and he was okay if the child was a dwarf. I am certain he would not have allowed an abortion. It almost sounds like she wanted to get rid of the child which I doubt was going to happen. At any rate she needs to let this go and I hope after all this dies down in a few months she will take her money and heal.

Laura, How on earth do you come to the conclusion that, "It almost sounds like she wanted to get rid of the child"? That is a very strong statement to make about Mayte. You must be basing your opinion off of the bootleg version of the book, because the excerpt in the People article says nothing and suggests nothing to support your conclusion that Mayte felt this way. disbelief

Don't die without knowing the cross.
Reply #152 posted 03/20/17 4:42pm

Menes

annalizer said:

disch said:

FYI "annulment" as a legal matter is pretty limited; it really only applies to situations where there was fraud involved (for example one spouse was still married to someone else).

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Despite what Prince said, what he and Mayte did was "divorce."

I don't know anything about annulments,but why Prince & Mayte kept referring to it and then an actual divorce is strange.

Yea, I was just looking more into the time frame from the articles you posted. Whatever it was, it brought about an abrupt ending to it. I did however read (from one of your articles ) that he thought Larry's presence completed his innerself and Mayte completed his outerself , thereby making him complete. Who knew.

Reply #153 posted 03/20/17 4:44pm

206Michelle

precioux said:

rogifan said:

Why is it so important to people that this book come out? Mayte had plenty of opportunities to tell her story when Prince was alive. If it's so important for her story to be told why did she wait until Prince was on the other side to release it?

She did an interview in 2013 and in the interview she stated that she was under a NDA....I'm presuming that's why. If need be, I can try to relocate the article I read last night.

Here is the excerpt:

"Mayte opens with some frightening reasons why we shouldn't talk about her very famous ex-husband-most of which involve the word lawsuit. Also sprinkled in there was something about a confidentiality agreement and how he protects his private life(http://genlux.com/mayte-garcia/)

[Edited 3/20/17 8:35am]

I also thought about the same genlux article because I also remember her mentioning in that article the possibility of a lawsuit if she talked about Prince.

Don't die without knowing the cross.
Reply #154 posted 03/20/17 4:49pm

206Michelle

morningsong said:

rogifan said:
Why is it so important to people that this book come out? Mayte had plenty of opportunities to tell her story when Prince was alive. If it's so important for her story to be told why did she wait until Prince was on the other side to release it?
With all the rumor and innuendo at this point most people want to hear from someone who was at least there. I mean you still have publications calling the baby Boy Gregory even though for almost a year now his name has been known. I mean if one can't get the name right what else are they misinformed about but you can't stop them from putting out into the world anything they want. Most of the rumors aren't even flattering to Prince but so many aren't taking issue with all that. That's what I don't get, why read about anything and everything from any where else but get hurt when you know beyond a reasonable doubt this is coming from someone who was there? At this point I'd rather have a quarter of the truth than a mountain more of other people's stories. If Mayte is lying about doing it out of love we'll see it. If she's not, it'll nip a lot of BS that's going around. [Edited 3/20/17 9:34am]

yeahthat Well stated, morning song.

Don't die without knowing the cross.
Reply #155 posted 03/20/17 4:52pm

BillieBalloon

206Michelle said:

 



precioux said:


 



rogifan said:


Why is it so important to people that this book come out? Mayte had plenty of opportunities to tell her story when Prince was alive. If it's so important for her story to be told why did she wait until Prince was on the other side to release it?

She did an interview in 2013 and in the interview she stated that she was under a NDA....I'm presuming that's why. If need be, I can try to relocate the article I read last night.


 


Here is the excerpt:


 


"Mayte opens with some frightening reasons why we shouldn't talk about her very famous ex-husband-most of which involve the word lawsuit. Also sprinkled in there was something about a confidentiality agreement and how he protects his private life(http://genlux.com/mayte-garcia/)


[Edited 3/20/17 8:35am]



I also thought about the same genlux article because I also remember her mentioning in that article the possibility of a lawsuit if she talked about Prince.  




Also HE she wasnt allowed to say much because she told the producers she had signed an NDA. I read that here at the org at the time everyone was talking about the reality show.
Baby, you're a star.

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Reply #156 posted 03/20/17 4:55pm

PennyPurple

I can't believe that people are throwing such a fit about this book. What is it to you if she writes a book? How does it harm you personally?

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Her story needs to be told, good, bad or ugly. I hope she doesn't pull the book. She needs to move forward with it.

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Nobody knows what Prince was thinking. No matter how much you state your opinions as facts, they are not facts.

Reply #157 posted 03/20/17 5:06pm

Purplestar88

PennyPurple said:

I can't believe that people are throwing such a fit about this book. What is it to you if she writes a book? How does it harm you personally?

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Her story needs to be told, good, bad or ugly. I hope she doesn't pull the book. She needs to move forward with it.

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Nobody knows what Prince was thinking. No matter how much you state your opinions as facts, they are not facts.

I don't feel people are having a fit. They are expressing their feelings. That is not a crime. Where is this comming from that she is pulling the book? This does not make sense.

Reply #158 posted 03/20/17 5:13pm

206Michelle

MMJas said:

laurarichardson said:

No, it is not central to anything. He was a Christian he was not going to abort that baby. Even if he knew all about the defect he still would have had a look of shock on his face. No amount of information in the world could prepare you for that.

Plenty of people do not have that test because it can cause a miscarriage. Do any of you have children? I would not care if my child had 3 heads. This insentiveness is just why she should not have gone into the details.

That's not what I was referring to at all, Laura. I think Prince's face of terror came from a place where before he had felt certain God had his back, that's how strong his faith was. He did not expect his son to be so deformed because basically apparently the doctors had only prepared them for the dwarfism possibility. What baby Amir had was much, much worse.

I never said anything about an abortion. I have no idea if they would have gone down that road. Nobody does, besides them and probably immediate family. It's getting really tiring hearing people who did not know him personally state things as facts, especially intimate thoughts, decisions and opinions from a man not many knew intimately.

We have no way of knowing what his thoughts were. Not even Mayte, who was his wife for 10 years and endured that terrible pain and loss with him, went there. Not even she suggests he was thinking this or that, feeling this or that. She says he prayed before his birth. He never let his son alone throughout the whole week long ordeal, even sparing her the worst part.
And then, while he's down, perhaps feeling conflicted about his own faith, about his own choices, perhaps, someone comes along and... you know the rest.

[Edited 3/20/17 12:52pm]

MMJas, I totally agree with you about everything you have said here. Regarding Prince's face of terror, I think it is understandable that he had that kind of look on his face given that (a) he was not aware that the baby had Pfeiffer Syndrome Type 2 and (b) because Pfeiffer Syndrome Type 2 causes some really significant deformities to the face and rest of the body.

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It's pretty easy to do an internet search for pictures of babies who have Pfeiffer Syndrome Type 2. The pictures make it pretty clear that Pfeiffer Syndrome Type 2 is not a pretty condition. I even read an article about the family of a 6-year-old boy who lives in Flordia and has Pfeiffer Syndrome Type 2. The boy's name is William. William's mother, Lisa Feller, said the following in the article: Feller is matter-of-fact about it. “When he was born, it was very difficult to look at him,” she said. (Source: http://jacksonville.com/n...condition)

Don't die without knowing the cross.
Reply #159 posted 03/20/17 5:17pm

206Michelle

Menes said:

annalizer said:

https://sites.google.com/...nuary-1997 I'm reposting this info because I think it might shed some light on why Mayte decided to write her book, and in Maytes defense, Prince almost deifies her when he talks about her impact on his life. The other interviews listed from 1996-2000 answers questions about the divorce/annulment religion etc. their answers are a bit different, but shed even more light about their relationship. Again, in Maytes defense he spoke very highly of her until May of 2000, then married Manuela in December of 2001? I could speculate about what happened and would probably be right, but if I were Mayte I would have a problem with Prince saying those things in public about me, then getting married a short time later? It was obvious there were three people in their relationship and I'm sure as it usually goes, after a while Mayte retaliated which was the finale straw. In my opinion, I don't feel this will be in the book due to for whatever reason, she befriended Manuela, wouldn't expose her to this due to her having a family now. These are the interviews of interest: Star Tribune-November 1996-Why he married her. Ebony -January 1997-How they met. Blues & Soul December 1999- (odd ending in last statement) Pulse (Tower Records) February 2000-Spain, divorce/annulment etc. Instyle May 2000

I'm still trying to wrap my noggin around why the marriage was annuled? Was it a religious annulment? I know some catholics who have engaged in the practice of such. Seems like right after the miscarriage, things went south quite quickly. 3 years of marriage- 2 unfortunate incidents, and wham! Annuled.

From http://www.genlux.com/mayte-garcia/ :

Mayte refutes an internet article stating that the marriage was annulled. “No! We did not annul the marriage,” she says emphatically, “You can’t annul after four years of marriage and a child. You can’t.”

[Edited 3/20/17 17:23pm]

Don't die without knowing the cross.
Reply #160 posted 03/20/17 5:18pm

annalizer

Menes said:

 



annalizer said:


disch said:

FYI "annulment" as a legal matter is pretty limited; it really only applies to situations where there was fraud involved (for example one spouse was still married to someone else).


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Despite what Prince said, what he and Mayte did was "divorce."


 



I don't know anything about annulments,but why Prince & Mayte kept referring to it and then an actual divorce is strange.

Yea, I was just looking more into the time frame from the articles you posted. Whatever it was, it brought about an abrupt ending to it. I did however read (from one of your articles ) that he thought Larry's presence completed his innerself and Mayte completed his outerself , thereby making him complete. Who knew.

OMG! Prince was already married to Larry? Naw just kiddind. I know he meant Larry on a spiritual level, but I wonder how Mayte felt about her having the outside (physical)statement😳
Reply #161 posted 03/20/17 5:24pm

annalizer

206Michelle said:

 



Menes said:


 



annalizer said:


https://sites.google.com/site/prninterviews/home/ebony-january-1997 I'm reposting this info because I think it might shed some light on why Mayte decided to write her book, and in Maytes defense, Prince almost deifies her when he talks about her impact on his life. The other interviews listed from 1996-2000 answers questions about the divorce/annulment religion etc. their answers are a bit different, but shed even more light about their relationship. Again, in Maytes defense he spoke very highly of her until May of 2000, then married Manuela in December of 2001? I could speculate about what happened and would probably be right, but if I were Mayte I would have a problem with Prince saying those things in public about me, then getting married a short time later? It was obvious there were three people in their relationship and I'm sure as it usually goes, after a while Mayte retaliated which was the finale straw. In my opinion, I don't feel this will be in the book due to for whatever reason, she befriended Manuela, wouldn't expose her to this due to her having a family now. These are the interviews of interest: Star Tribune-November 1996-Why he married her. Ebony -January 1997-How they met. Blues & Soul December 1999- (odd ending in last statement) Pulse (Tower Records) February 2000-Spain, divorce/annulment etc. Instyle May 2000

I'm still trying to wrap my noggin around why the marriage was annuled? Was it a religious annulment? I know some catholics who have engaged in the practice of such. Seems like right after the miscarriage, things went south quite quickly. 3 years of marriage- 2 unfortunate incidents, and wham! Annuled.



 


From http://www.genlux.com/mayte-garcia/:


Mayte refutes an internet article stating that the marriage was annulled. “No! We did not annul the marriage,” she says emphatically, “You can’t annul after four years of marriage and a child. You can’t.”

I've seen that article. It's bizarre they kept changing their story.
Reply #162 posted 03/20/17 5:25pm

awake4now

206Michelle said:

benni said:


Except while he was alive, publishers only wanted the most controversial storylines. Once he left us, publishers knew any story about Prince would sell, and it wouldn't have to be a tell all. She could dictate her terms as to what she would and would not include in the book once he passed, prior to that, publishers would have wanted the most salacious details and would not have published if they believed it wasn't juicy enough. This is true with any star of worth, especially those stars that are as protective of their image as Prince.

benni, great points about the dynamics of selling the book.

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Then why not tell the story w/o these new provocative details? Probably b/c most already know that story.

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So new provocative details are included, some not even first-hand according to the excerpts released by the publisher. And he is not here to confirm, deny, or throw a lawyer at it.

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Hence the scandalous headlines and the resulting discussion here.

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Reply #163 posted 03/20/17 5:25pm

laurarichardson

206Michelle said:

 



laurarichardson said:


 



MMJas said:


 


 


Exactly my point. Hence Prince's face turning from pure love to horror. In those split seconds, he went from TOTALLY believing God had his back so to speak to... omg. This has just happened.


 


And that's what angers me concerning him becoming a JW. Nobody should enter a new faith in that state of mind. Nobody should "influence" a person that vulnearable. 


 


I wonder if in later years Prince moved away from that influence in any way and if that's why he began again singing about sex and having a more natural and new wage approach, i.e. clothes, necklaces, sunglasses, mandalas, the stripped down P&M shows? 


 


[Edited 3/20/17 7:22am]



He was not a JW at the time the baby was born but he was raised as a Christian. That test could cause a miscarriage and he was okay if the child was a dwarf. I am certain he would not have allowed an abortion. It almost sounds like she wanted to get rid of the child which I doubt was going to happen. At any rate she needs to let this go and I hope after all this dies down in a few months she will take her money and heal.



Laura, How on earth do you come to the conclusion that, "It almost sounds like she wanted to get rid of the child"? That is a very strong statement to make about Mayte. You must be basing your opinion off of the bootleg version of the book, because the excerpt in the People article says nothing and suggests nothing to support your conclusion that Mayte felt this way. disbelief 


All I have is the bootlegg version and to be fair she never said she wanted an abortion but what else could they have done? If she knew what the problem was before hand it would not have made it any less upsetting. Why is she carrying on about that est 20 years later.
Reply #164 posted 03/20/17 5:31pm

Menes

annalizer said:

206Michelle said:

From http://www.genlux.com/mayte-garcia/:

Mayte refutes an internet article stating that the marriage was annulled. “No! We did not annul the marriage,” she says emphatically, “You can’t annul after four years of marriage and a child. You can’t.”

I've seen that article. It's bizarre they kept changing their story.

According to one of those articles you posted, she refused to put the name of the father on the death certificate. Strange.

Reply #165 posted 03/20/17 5:37pm

laurarichardson

annalizer said:

206Michelle said:

 



Menes said:


 



annalizer said:


https://sites.google.com/site/prninterviews/home/ebony-january-1997 I'm reposting this info because I think it might shed some light on why Mayte decided to write her book, and in Maytes defense, Prince almost deifies her when he talks about her impact on his life. The other interviews listed from 1996-2000 answers questions about the divorce/annulment religion etc. their answers are a bit different, but shed even more light about their relationship. Again, in Maytes defense he spoke very highly of her until May of 2000, then married Manuela in December of 2001? I could speculate about what happened and would probably be right, but if I were Mayte I would have a problem with Prince saying those things in public about me, then getting married a short time later? It was obvious there were three people in their relationship and I'm sure as it usually goes, after a while Mayte retaliated which was the finale straw. In my opinion, I don't feel this will be in the book due to for whatever reason, she befriended Manuela, wouldn't expose her to this due to her having a family now. These are the interviews of interest: Star Tribune-November 1996-Why he married her. Ebony -January 1997-How they met. Blues & Soul December 1999- (odd ending in last statement) Pulse (Tower Records) February 2000-Spain, divorce/annulment etc. Instyle May 2000

I'm still trying to wrap my noggin around why the marriage was annuled? Was it a religious annulment? I know some catholics who have engaged in the practice of such. Seems like right after the miscarriage, things went south quite quickly. 3 years of marriage- 2 unfortunate incidents, and wham! Annuled.



 


From http://www.genlux.com/mayte-garcia/:


Mayte refutes an internet article stating that the marriage was annulled. “No! We did not annul the marriage,” she says emphatically, “You can’t annul after four years of marriage and a child. You can’t.”

I've seen that article. It's bizarre they kept changing their story.

See it is the constant changing of the story. Only thing I can think is he divorce her by putting a listing in the paper basically you do this when you claim abandonment.
Reply #166 posted 03/20/17 5:40pm

206Michelle

Menes said:

annalizer said:

206Michelle said: I've seen that article. It's bizarre they kept changing their story.

According to one of those articles you posted, she refused to put the name of the father on the death certificate. Strange.

Menes, Are you speaking about the News of the World articles? If so, yes, I remember reading about her refusing to put his name on the death certificate also.

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There is also a Star Tribune article that says basically the same thing:

A death certificate filed in Hennepin County on Nov. 4 lists the child's first name as "Boy" and the last name "Gregory." It lists the mother's name as Mia Gregory and left blank the boxes identifying the child's father.

It lists the child's cause of death to be from complications caused by Pfieffer's syndrome, Type 2, a deadly and rare skull deformity resulting from a genetic mutation.

Source: http://www.startribune.co.../11466661/

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My best guess as to why Prince's name isn't on the death certificate is that he didn't want it on there for privacy reasons. The omission of his name is consistent with Prince being a very private person as well as his statements to the effect of "No one will know the names of our children." Again, this is just my best guess, but my guess makes sense to me based on what I know about Prince's desire for privacy.

Don't die without knowing the cross.
Reply #167 posted 03/20/17 5:42pm

Menes

awake4now said:

206Michelle said:

benni, great points about the dynamics of selling the book.

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Then why not tell the story w/o these new provocative details? Probably b/c most already know that story.

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So new provocative details are included, some not even first-hand according to the excerpts released by the publisher. And he is not here to confirm, deny, or throw a lawyer at it.

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Hence the scandalous headlines and the resulting discussion here.

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I do have a provocative and quite cryptic old clip that I'm saving( its her giving an interview in Spanish in Puerto Rico) and , er, let's just say, there's a hint of what was to come. I will wait awhile before I drop anything here.

Reply #168 posted 03/20/17 5:50pm

Misslink88

AnnaSantana said:

Sigh, they're calling Prince a pedophile on lipstickalley.com. sad

I shouldn't let it bother me, as I know it's not true, but, still....

Correction....Mayte's fans are calling him a pedophile. His fans are trying to explain she didn't even move to MN until she was almost 18, with her parent's consent, to work as a dancer. Mayte said herself they didn't do anything til she was 19. The only reason this is an issue is because Mayte said he had "legal guardianship" or whatever. I've been reading some of the posts in the Prince forum. Everyone on the Org already knows when she moved to MN.

God is my Sugar Daddy.
Reply #169 posted 03/20/17 5:50pm

PennyPurple

Menes said:

I do have a provocative and quite cryptic old clip that I'm saving( its her giving an interview in Spanish in Puerto Rico) and , er, let's just say, there's a hint of what was to come. I will wait awhile before I drop anything here.

Why wait? In fact, why do you have to 'drop' it on here? Sounds a bit like Laura, I've got the goods but I'm gonna wait to post them. LOL It's kinda of a stalker-ish tendency. For goodness sakes, let the Lady be.

Reply #170 posted 03/20/17 5:53pm

Misslink88

Menes said:

I do have a provocative and quite cryptic old clip that I'm saving( its her giving an interview in Spanish in Puerto Rico) and , er, let's just say, there's a hint of what was to come. I will wait awhile before I drop anything here.

Anticipation......

God is my Sugar Daddy.
Reply #171 posted 03/20/17 5:54pm

annalizer

Menes said:

 



annalizer said:


206Michelle said:

 


 


From http://www.genlux.com/mayte-garcia/:


Mayte refutes an internet article stating that the marriage was annulled. “No! We did not annul the marriage,” she says emphatically, “You can’t annul after four years of marriage and a child. You can’t.”



I've seen that article. It's bizarre they kept changing their story.

According to one of those articles you posted, she refused to put the name of the father on the death certificate. Strange. 


According to the Mojica (check spelling)sisters he didn't want her to. Something about privacy, but still strange.
Reply #172 posted 03/20/17 5:55pm

206Michelle

annalizer said:

Menes said:

According to one of those articles you posted, she refused to put the name of the father on the death certificate. Strange.

According to the Mojica (check spelling)sisters he didn't want her to. Something about privacy, but still strange.

I totally agree that the omission of his name from the death certificate was strange.

Don't die without knowing the cross.
Reply #173 posted 03/20/17 6:01pm

Menes

PennyPurple said:

Menes said:

I do have a provocative and quite cryptic old clip that I'm saving( its her giving an interview in Spanish in Puerto Rico) and , er, let's just say, there's a hint of what was to come. I will wait awhile before I drop anything here.

Why wait? In fact, why do you have to 'drop' it on here? Sounds a bit like Laura, I've got the goods but I'm gonna wait to post them. LOL It's kinda of a stalker-ish tendency. For goodness sakes, let the Lady be.

You are entitled to your opinion , right? I respect it. It would be easy enough for me to interpret you from your post as a neurotic, histrionic that goes to great lengths to place your cranium up Mayte's ass. But you see, I respct your post. So, if I want to drop it when I say I will drop it, what are you accomplishing by branding it a "kinda stalker-ish tendency", except to prove how far up her ass you are? Let's stay friends. Its not worth it.

Reply #174 posted 03/20/17 6:03pm

annalizer

206Michelle said:

 



annalizer said:


Menes said:

 


According to one of those articles you posted, she refused to put the name of the father on the death certificate. Strange. 



According to the Mojica (check spelling)sisters he didn't want her to. Something about privacy, but still strange.

I totally agree that the omission of his name from the death certificate was strange. 

Now that I think about it, it wouldn't be strange to Prince if he didn't view his child as deceased, so why sign a death certificate? Strange, but it wouldn't surprise me if that was his reason.
Reply #175 posted 03/20/17 6:08pm

Menes

annalizer said:

206Michelle said:

I totally agree that the omission of his name from the death certificate was strange.

Now that I think about it, it wouldn't be strange to Prince if he didn't view his child as deceased, so why sign a death certificate? Strange, but it wouldn't surprise me if that was his reason.

Yea, but he had it cremated the very next day. He had to have acknowleded the child was gone then. She had no time to grieve it in her arms according to her. Drip drip.

Reply #176 posted 03/20/17 6:09pm

206Michelle

annalizer said:

206Michelle said:

I totally agree that the omission of his name from the death certificate was strange.

Now that I think about it, it wouldn't be strange to Prince if he didn't view his child as deceased, so why sign a death certificate? Strange, but it wouldn't surprise me if that was his reason.

Annalizer, that's a really good point.

Don't die without knowing the cross.
Reply #177 posted 03/20/17 6:14pm

annalizer

Menes said:

 



annalizer said:


206Michelle said:

 


I totally agree that the omission of his name from the death certificate was strange. 



Now that I think about it, it wouldn't be strange to Prince if he didn't view his child as deceased, so why sign a death certificate? Strange, but it wouldn't surprise me if that was his reason.

Yea, but he had it cremated the very next day. He had to have acknowleded the child was gone then. She had no time to grieve it in her arms according to her. Drip drip.

Yeah, I thought about that also, but I guess maybe the cremation would have left the smallest trace, but then the ashes are left? Sooooo...
Reply #178 posted 03/20/17 6:16pm

206Michelle

Menes said:

annalizer said:

206Michelle said: Now that I think about it, it wouldn't be strange to Prince if he didn't view his child as deceased, so why sign a death certificate? Strange, but it wouldn't surprise me if that was his reason.

Yea, but he had it cremated the very next day. He had to have acknowleded the child was gone then. She had no time to grieve it in her arms according to her. Drip drip.

I mean no disrespect or rudeness, Menes, but Amiir was a person. Perhaps "him" would be more appropriate than "it."

Don't die without knowing the cross.
Reply #179 posted 03/20/17 6:16pm

laurarichardson

moonsister said:

CatB said:

 



purplethunder3121 said:


 



CatB said:


 


 



Menes said:


 


Please don't write a book.  biggrin


 



 


 



Actually I have been writing about it.



 



 


 


Uh, oh.  Here, we go. lol



 


 




lol

Don't worry, some people actually only write to process things. What I share is for free, there's no cashing in on him. I made a promise to him that I intend to keep.





Please start your own thread, butting in with a response to an old comment is making you seem desperate for attention.

-- Mad because she is not trying to make a quick buck.
Reply #180 posted 03/20/17 6:18pm

laurarichardson

BillieBalloon said:

NotACleverName said:


My guess is the real story is as Dave told it.....Mayte was approached by an (unnamed) publisher to write a salacious tell all. She refused based on the fact that she would "never disrespect Prince and their relationship" (paraphrasing). Upon Prince's passing, she was approached again (different publisher) but she advised this new publisher the project would proceed only if she could tell her story in the way she deemed appropriate. He, Dave, also mentioned that she left out details of their time together. Maybe some info she felt would be too controversial or sensitive. Can't say for sure as I am not privy to her thoughts. Dave also mentioned that there was NEVER an NDA between Prince and Mayte. Very telling, imo, in that I feel Prince knew her heart and therefore, was not concerned that she would ever reveal derogatory facts (if any occurred) about their time together.



Why does these article from 24.06.2015 say shes writing a book if she never agreed to do one before Prince died?



http://rhythmraveradio.com/?p=5494


http://www.centrictv.com/entertainment/celebrity-news/articles/2015/06/24/prince-s-ex-wife-to-pen-a-tell-all.html


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[Edited 3/20/17 16:32pm]

Because she was going to put one out before he died and Dave is telling more tall tales he almost acts as if the Internet does not exsist.
Reply #181 posted 03/20/17 6:20pm

PennyPurple

Menes said:

PennyPurple said:

Why wait? In fact, why do you have to 'drop' it on here? Sounds a bit like Laura, I've got the goods but I'm gonna wait to post them. LOL It's kinda of a stalker-ish tendency. For goodness sakes, let the Lady be.

You are entitled to your opinion , right? I respect it. It would be easy enough for me to interpret you from your post as a neurotic, histrionic that goes to great lengths to place your cranium up Mayte's ass. But you see, I respct your post. So, if I want to drop it when I say I will drop it, what are you accomplishing by branding it a "kinda stalker-ish tendency", except to prove how far up her ass you are? Let's stay friends. Its not worth it.

Aww Menes I still love you!!! love ...

Reply #182 posted 03/20/17 6:20pm

Menes

annalizer said:

Menes said:

Yea, but he had it cremated the very next day. He had to have acknowleded the child was gone then. She had no time to grieve it in her arms according to her. Drip drip.

Yeah, I thought about that also, but I guess maybe the cremation would have left the smallest trace, but then the ashes are left? Sooooo...

I think one was grieving way differently than the other and that caused a major rift. I dont know how true this is but I also heerd in the podcast by Dave that JW stepped in at some point either to assist in dissolving or to fetch him something other than her . I don't remember . It's out there.

Reply #183 posted 03/20/17 6:21pm

Menes

PennyPurple said:

Menes said:

You are entitled to your opinion , right? I respect it. It would be easy enough for me to interpret you from your post as a neurotic, histrionic that goes to great lengths to place your cranium up Mayte's ass. But you see, I respct your post. So, if I want to drop it when I say I will drop it, what are you accomplishing by branding it a "kinda stalker-ish tendency", except to prove how far up her ass you are? Let's stay friends. Its not worth it.

Aww Menes I still love you!!! love ...

Oh, I knew that. biggrin

Reply #184 posted 03/20/17 6:29pm

CatB

joytotheworld said:

CatB said:



lol

Don't worry, some people actually only write to process things. What I share is for free, there's no cashing in on him. I made a promise to him that I intend to keep.



I hope you will decide to share it one day whenever you are ready and if you ever decide to share it. Peace.

Menes said:

Must've been a fair amount of time that you spent with him . From what you've shared here, it doesn't seem as though you would be writing it for nefarious or monetary purposes. What is the format that you will be releasing it in?



Thank you. I have no intentions to "sell". That's why I am still not sure if and how to share. I can only say so far that I have begun to write it all down for myself and in doing so, never used his name but referred to him as "He" like in my diaries. In the process friends have asked me if I could share it as a book and this is how it came about. It's collected diary entries and memories that have come back during the writing and I like the idea to keep his name out and write it novel style, to share what I can but not "give him away". It is important to me, it is my way to remember him but I don't want to make it a big deal. That's why - back to Mayte.







"Time is space spent with U"
Reply #185 posted 03/20/17 6:34pm

annalizer

Menes said:

 



annalizer said:


Menes said:

 


Yea, but he had it cremated the very next day. He had to have acknowleded the child was gone then. She had no time to grieve it in her arms according to her. Drip drip.



Yeah, I thought about that also, but I guess maybe the cremation would have left the smallest trace, but then the ashes are left? Sooooo...

I think one was grieving way differently than the other and that caused a major rift. I dont know how true this is but I also heerd in the podcast by Dave that JW stepped in at some point either to assist in dissolving or to fetch him something other than her . I don't remember . It's out there.



Parents do grieve differently. I'm going through this as we speak with a couple who lost their son last march and the father shockingly blamed her for the death in therapy where she was stunned that he felt that way. He was 14 and passed in his sleep. His reasoning was she mothered him too much. I know, crazy! As far as JW stepping if true, that's nuts, but with that whole situation it might have made sense to him at the time. Who knows.
Reply #186 posted 03/20/17 6:39pm

precioux

laurarichardson said:

206Michelle said:

 



laurarichardson said:


 



MMJas said:


 


 


Exactly my point. Hence Prince's face turning from pure love to horror. In those split seconds, he went from TOTALLY believing God had his back so to speak to... omg. This has just happened.


 


And that's what angers me concerning him becoming a JW. Nobody should enter a new faith in that state of mind. Nobody should "influence" a person that vulnearable. 


 


I wonder if in later years Prince moved away from that influence in any way and if that's why he began again singing about sex and having a more natural and new wage approach, i.e. clothes, necklaces, sunglasses, mandalas, the stripped down P&M shows? 


 


[Edited 3/20/17 7:22am]



He was not a JW at the time the baby was born but he was raised as a Christian. That test could cause a miscarriage and he was okay if the child was a dwarf. I am certain he would not have allowed an abortion. It almost sounds like she wanted to get rid of the child which I doubt was going to happen. At any rate she needs to let this go and I hope after all this dies down in a few months she will take her money and heal.



Laura, How on earth do you come to the conclusion that, "It almost sounds like she wanted to get rid of the child"? That is a very strong statement to make about Mayte. You must be basing your opinion off of the bootleg version of the book, because the excerpt in the People article says nothing and suggests nothing to support your conclusion that Mayte felt this way. disbelief 


All I have is the bootlegg version and to be fair she never said she wanted an abortion but what else could they have done? If she knew what the problem was before hand it would not have made it any less upsetting. Why is she carrying on about that est 20 years later.


What a hypocrite! You're on this board non stop bashing others that "may" buy Mayte's book, and trashing Mayte left and right, but YOU seem to be the only one concerned enough around here to find a bootleg copy of it online and read it yourself = certifiable definition of "oxymoron"...smdh
[Edited 3/20/17 18:46pm]
Reply #187 posted 03/20/17 6:52pm

Menes

206Michelle said:

Menes said:

Yea, but he had it cremated the very next day. He had to have acknowleded the child was gone then. She had no time to grieve it in her arms according to her. Drip drip.

I mean no disrespect or rudeness, Menes, but Amiir was a person. Perhaps "him" would be more appropriate than "it."

Point taken.

Reply #188 posted 03/20/17 6:55pm

PennyPurple

precioux said:

laurarichardson said:
All I have is the bootlegg version and to be fair she never said she wanted an abortion but what else could they have done? If she knew what the problem was before hand it would not have made it any less upsetting. Why is she carrying on about that est 20 years later.
What a hypocrite! You're on this board non stop bashing others that "may" buy Mayte's book, and trashing Mayte left and right, but YOU seem to be the only one concerned enough around here to find a bootleg copy of it online and read it yourself = certifiable definition of "oxymoron"...smdh [Edited 3/20/17 18:46pm]

yeahthat

Reply #189 posted 03/20/17 7:20pm

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2

PennyPurple said:

 



precioux said:


laurarichardson said:
All I have is the bootlegg version and to be fair she never said she wanted an abortion but what else could they have done? If she knew what the problem was before hand it would not have made it any less upsetting. Why is she carrying on about that est 20 years later.

What a hypocrite! You're on this board non stop bashing others that "may" buy Mayte's book, and trashing Mayte left and right, but YOU seem to be the only one concerned enough around here to find a bootleg copy of it online and read it yourself = certifiable definition of "oxymoron"...smdh [Edited 3/20/17 18:46pm]

yeahthat




You should check your dictionary before insulting people, your usage of oxymoron is incorrect
Reply #190 posted 03/20/17 7:31pm

laurarichardson

precioux said:

laurarichardson said:


All I have is the bootlegg version and to be fair she never said she wanted an abortion but what else could they have done? If she knew what the problem was before hand it would not have made it any less upsetting. Why is she carrying on about that est 20 years later.


What a hypocrite! You're on this board non stop bashing others that "may" buy Mayte's book, and trashing Mayte left and right, but YOU seem to be the only one concerned enough around here to find a bootleg copy of it online and read it yourself = certifiable definition of "oxymoron"...smdh
[Edited 3/20/17 18:46pm]

--I am not going to criticize a book I have not bothered to read. You are praising a book you have not read. I am not trashing her I do not line what she is doing and she is not above criticism. You are carrying on as if you are being attacked. Who do you think has issues.
Reply #191 posted 03/20/17 7:31pm

Purplestar88

laurarichardson said:

BillieBalloon said:
Why does these article from 24.06.2015 say shes writing a book if she never agreed to do one before Prince died? http://rhythmraveradio.com/?p=5494 http://www.centrictv.com/...l-all.html . [Edited 3/20/17 16:32pm]
Because she was going to put one out before he died and Dave is telling more tall tales he almost acts as if the Internet does not exsist.

That's why in my earlier post I ask what is the real story on her doing the book. Her friend claims Prince never stop her from releasing the book or talking about him. She was talking about writing the the book before his death. If Prince never stop her why did she wait so long to write it but some people are saying he stop her from doing and saying what she wanted when it is not the case according to her. And then now she is saying she did not go though with book deals because they were pushing for salacious details but turn around and do the thing you claim you were against. This does not add up.

Reply #192 posted 03/20/17 7:32pm

laurarichardson

PennyPurple said:

 



precioux said:


laurarichardson said:
All I have is the bootlegg version and to be fair she never said she wanted an abortion but what else could they have done? If she knew what the problem was before hand it would not have made it any less upsetting. Why is she carrying on about that est 20 years later.

What a hypocrite! You're on this board non stop bashing others that "may" buy Mayte's book, and trashing Mayte left and right, but YOU seem to be the only one concerned enough around here to find a bootleg copy of it online and read it yourself = certifiable definition of "oxymoron"...smdh [Edited 3/20/17 18:46pm]

yeahthat


You need to check the dictionary as well before you cosign.
Reply #193 posted 03/20/17 7:33pm

PennyPurple

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

PennyPurple said:

yeahthat

You should check your dictionary before insulting people, your usage of oxymoron is incorrect

Not really. What they are doing is creating organized chaos.

Reply #194 posted 03/20/17 7:37pm

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2

PennyPurple said:

 



LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:


PennyPurple said:

 


yeahthat



You should check your dictionary before insulting people, your usage of oxymoron is incorrect

Not really. What they are doing is creating organized chaos.





Which is also not the definition of an oxymoron, strike 2
Reply #195 posted 03/20/17 7:45pm

PennyPurple

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

PennyPurple said:

Not really. What they are doing is creating organized chaos.

Which is also not the definition of an oxymoron, strike 2

Ypu might want to check that.

Reply #196 posted 03/20/17 7:49pm

Menes

Purplestar88 said:

laurarichardson said:

BillieBalloon said: Because she was going to put one out before he died and Dave is telling more tall tales he almost acts as if the Internet does not exsist.

That's why in my earlier post I ask what is the real story on her doing the book. Her friend claims Prince never stop her from releasing the book or talking about him. She was talking about writing the the book before his death. If Prince never stop her why did she wait so long to write it but some people are saying he stop her from doing and saying what she wanted when it is not the case according to her. And then now she is saying she did not go though with book deals because they were pushing for salacious details but turn around and do the thing you claim you were against. This does not add up.

Purplestar88 states:" She was talking about writing the book before his death" ,and, " now she is saying she did not go through with the book deals because they were pushing for salacious details but turned around and did the same thing you claim you were against". There lies the conundrum which very few people care to explain. What changed?

Reply #197 posted 03/20/17 7:52pm

laurarichardson

PennyPurple said:

 



Menes said:


 



I do have a provocative and quite cryptic old clip that I'm saving( its her giving an interview in Spanish in Puerto Rico) and , er, let's just say, there's a hint of what was to come. I will wait awhile before I drop anything here. 



Why wait? In fact, why do you have to 'drop' it on here? Sounds a bit like Laura, I've got the goods but I'm gonna wait to post them. LOL It's kinda of a stalker-ish tendency. For goodness sakes, let the Lady be.


It takes time to gather info and since the mods are constantly closing and deleting stuff on this board you cannot just post everything. Trust me people are gathering info on Mayte and her minons which is very easy to do.
Reply #198 posted 03/20/17 8:13pm

SBartist

laurarichardson said:

206Michelle said:

Laura, How on earth do you come to the conclusion that, "It almost sounds like she wanted to get rid of the child"? That is a very strong statement to make about Mayte. You must be basing your opinion off of the bootleg version of the book, because the excerpt in the People article says nothing and suggests nothing to support your conclusion that Mayte felt this way. disbelief

All I have is the bootlegg version and to be fair she never said she wanted an abortion but what else could they have done? If she knew what the problem was before hand it would not have made it any less upsetting. Why is she carrying on about that est 20 years later.

Just chiming in here, because I have been following Pt 1 and Pt 2 along. Laura - your comment is so wrong and inappropriate. No wonder rumors get started with cr@p statements like your post. How many other rumors have you started???? SMH

Reply #199 posted 03/20/17 8:23pm

SBartist

precioux said:

laurarichardson said:
All I have is the bootlegg version and to be fair she never said she wanted an abortion but what else could they have done? If she knew what the problem was before hand it would not have made it any less upsetting. Why is she carrying on about that est 20 years later.
What a hypocrite! [Edited 3/20/17 18:46pm][/b]

yeahthat

[Edited 3/20/17 20:25pm]

Reply #200 posted 03/20/17 9:00pm

Purplestar88

SBartist said:

laurarichardson said:

206Michelle said: All I have is the bootlegg version and to be fair she never said she wanted an abortion but what else could they have done? If she knew what the problem was before hand it would not have made it any less upsetting. Why is she carrying on about that est 20 years later.

Just chiming in here, because I have been following Pt 1 and Pt 2 along. Laura - your comment is so wrong and inappropriate. No wonder rumors get started with cr@p statements like your post. How many other rumors have you started???? SMH

What rumors? She is just stating her impression of the situation.

Reply #201 posted 03/20/17 9:44pm

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame

CatB said:



Thank you. I have no intentions to "sell". That's why I am still not sure if and how to share. I can only say so far that I have begun to write it all down for myself and in doing so, never used his name but referred to him as "He" like in my diaries. In the process friends have asked me if I could share it as a book and this is how it came about. It's collected diary entries and memories that have come back during the writing and I like the idea to keep his name out and write it novel style, to share what I can but not "give him away". It is important to me, it is my way to remember him but I don't want to make it a big deal. That's why - back to Mayte.

I think you are full of kugati.

stoned stoned

Reply #202 posted 03/20/17 9:49pm

SBartist

Purplestar88 said:

SBartist said:

Just chiming in here, because I have been following Pt 1 and Pt 2 along. Laura - your comment is so wrong and inappropriate. No wonder rumors get started with cr@p statements like your post. How many other rumors have you started???? SMH

What rumors? She is just stating her impression of the situation.

Sorry - I am not familiar with how to add multiple quotes to a thread:

laurarichardson said:


MMJas said:




Exactly my point. Hence Prince's face turning from pure love to horror. In those split seconds, he went from TOTALLY believing God had his back so to speak to... omg. This has just happened.



And that's what angers me concerning him becoming a JW. Nobody should enter a new faith in that state of mind. Nobody should "influence" a person that vulnearable.



I wonder if in later years Prince moved away from that influence in any way and if that's why he began again singing about sex and having a more natural and new wage approach, i.e. clothes, necklaces, sunglasses, mandalas, the stripped down P&M shows?



[Edited 3/20/17 7:22am]


He was not a JW at the time the baby was born but he was raised as a Christian. That test could cause a miscarriage and he was okay if the child was a dwarf. I am certain he would not have allowed an abortion. It almost sounds like she wanted to get rid of the child which I doubt was going to happen. At any rate she needs to let this go and I hope after all this dies down in a few months she will take her money and heal.

***

***

***

^The bold quote by laura^

People read this cr@p and go with it. That is how rumors get spread. And if you don't think so, at a minimum it was a very rude comment.

[Edited 3/20/17 21:49pm]

Reply #203 posted 03/20/17 10:55pm

Lovejunky

SBartist said:

laurarichardson said:

206Michelle said: All I have is the bootlegg version and to be fair she never said she wanted an abortion but what else could they have done? If she knew what the problem was before hand it would not have made it any less upsetting. Why is she carrying on about that est 20 years later.

Just chiming in here, because I have been following Pt 1 and Pt 2 along. Laura - your comment is so wrong and inappropriate. No wonder rumors get started with cr@p statements like your post. How many other rumors have you started???? SMH

Laura..I love you and your input...

in this instance I have to agree with the sentiments of others.

SOmetimes you are just that bit TOO HARSH an it hurts people...

Now..If you dont give a damn about that ...well fine..

but be aware...You speak a lot of Real and pure truth...

but sometimes your ego overcomes you and you just seem like a person who is so devoid of love and affection, I wonder how you survive out there.....

Im sorry if THIS Sounds harsh....I love you, you are brilliant...

however nothing wrong being mindful of other peoples feelings...

x

“LOVE IS THE MASTERPLAN”
Reply #204 posted 03/20/17 11:26pm

Menes

Lovejunky said:

SBartist said:

Just chiming in here, because I have been following Pt 1 and Pt 2 along. Laura - your comment is so wrong and inappropriate. No wonder rumors get started with cr@p statements like your post. How many other rumors have you started???? SMH

Laura..I love you and your input...

in this instance I have to agree with the sentiments of others.

SOmetimes you are just that bit TOO HARSH an it hurts people...

Now..If you dont give a damn about that ...well fine..

but be aware...You speak a lot of Real and pure truth...

but sometimes your ego overcomes you and you just seem like a person who is so devoid of love and affection, I wonder how you survive out there.....

Im sorry if THIS Sounds harsh....I love you, you are brilliant...

however nothing wrong being mindful of other peoples feelings...

x

And how harsh have most of us here been with her, to include me? I can move on from the epic knock down fights I've had with her without bitching about how much she's hurting my feelings on a forum. She gives it as much as she gets it and she damn sure gets it alot. People attack her all the time for days on end. Once, I hammered Laura for 3 days straight. She gave it right back to me for those same 3 days. We still don't agree on a lot of things but I would rather have her in a foxhole in a time of war than some of these cupcakes seeking an emotional crutch in a forum. Certain sensitive souls who are predisposed to fragility and need mommy's protective pouch ,need to leave all of that damn baggage at the door. Go buy a puppy if you need that much love! This is not a therapy hall with levels of care based upon your emotional state. I need a drink.

Reply #205 posted 03/21/17 12:26am

Lovejunky

Menes said:

Lovejunky said:

Laura..I love you and your input...

in this instance I have to agree with the sentiments of others.

SOmetimes you are just that bit TOO HARSH an it hurts people...

Now..If you dont give a damn about that ...well fine..

but be aware...You speak a lot of Real and pure truth...

but sometimes your ego overcomes you and you just seem like a person who is so devoid of love and affection, I wonder how you survive out there.....

Im sorry if THIS Sounds harsh....I love you, you are brilliant...

however nothing wrong being mindful of other peoples feelings...

x

And how harsh have most of us here been with her, to include me? I can move on from the epic knock down fights I've had with her without bitching about how much she's hurting my feelings on a forum. She gives it as much as she gets it and she damn sure gets it alot. People attack her all the time for days on end. Once, I hammered Laura for 3 days straight. She gave it right back to me for those same 3 days. We still don't agree on a lot of things but I would rather have her in a foxhole in a time of war than some of these cupcakes seeking an emotional crutch in a forum. Certain sensitive souls who are predisposed to fragility and need mommy's protective pouch ,need to leave all of that damn baggage at the door. Go buy a puppy if you need that much love! This is not a therapy hall with levels of care based upon your emotional state. I need a drink.

Whoa !

lol

“LOVE IS THE MASTERPLAN”
Reply #206 posted 03/21/17 12:26am

Lovejunky

Menes said:

Lovejunky said:

Laura..I love you and your input...

in this instance I have to agree with the sentiments of others.

SOmetimes you are just that bit TOO HARSH an it hurts people...

Now..If you dont give a damn about that ...well fine..

but be aware...You speak a lot of Real and pure truth...

but sometimes your ego overcomes you and you just seem like a person who is so devoid of love and affection, I wonder how you survive out there.....

Im sorry if THIS Sounds harsh....I love you, you are brilliant...

however nothing wrong being mindful of other peoples feelings...

x

And how harsh have most of us here been with her, to include me? I can move on from the epic knock down fights I've had with her without bitching about how much she's hurting my feelings on a forum. She gives it as much as she gets it and she damn sure gets it alot. People attack her all the time for days on end. Once, I hammered Laura for 3 days straight. She gave it right back to me for those same 3 days. We still don't agree on a lot of things but I would rather have her in a foxhole in a time of war than some of these cupcakes seeking an emotional crutch in a forum. Certain sensitive souls who are predisposed to fragility and need mommy's protective pouch ,need to leave all of that damn baggage at the door. Go buy a puppy if you need that much love! This is not a therapy hall with levels of care based upon your emotional state. I need a drink.

Whoa !

lol

“LOVE IS THE MASTERPLAN”
Reply #207 posted 03/21/17 1:13am

BillieBalloon

SBartist said:

 



laurarichardson said:


206Michelle said:

 


Laura, How on earth do you come to the conclusion that, "It almost sounds like she wanted to get rid of the child"? That is a very strong statement to make about Mayte. You must be basing your opinion off of the bootleg version of the book, because the excerpt in the People article says nothing and suggests nothing to support your conclusion that Mayte felt this way. disbelief 



All I have is the bootlegg version and to be fair she never said she wanted an abortion but what else could they have done? If she knew what the problem was before hand it would not have made it any less upsetting. Why is she carrying on about that est 20 years later.

 


Just chiming in here, because I have been following Pt 1 and Pt 2 along.  Laura - your comment is so wrong and inappropriate. No wonder rumors get started with cr@p statements like your post.  How many other rumors have you started????  SMH




Would you class Mayte saying Prince burned the babys ashes on a fire as a rumour?

Remember, this is info somebody told her that had heard it from someone else.
Now if you want to talk about rumour mongering, lets address this one as well.
Baby, you're a star.

Meet me in another world, space and joy
Reply #208 posted 03/21/17 1:51am

laurarichardson

Menes said:

 



Lovejunky said:


 



SBartist said:


 


 


Just chiming in here, because I have been following Pt 1 and Pt 2 along.  Laura - your comment is so wrong and inappropriate. No wonder rumors get started with cr@p statements like your post.  How many other rumors have you started????  SMH



Laura..I love you and your input...


 


in this instance I have to agree with the sentiments of others.


 


SOmetimes you are just that bit TOO HARSH an it hurts people...


 


Now..If you dont give a damn about that ...well fine..


 


but be aware...You speak a lot of Real and pure truth...


 


but sometimes your ego overcomes you and you just seem like a person who is so devoid of love and affection, I wonder how you survive out there.....


 


 


Im sorry if THIS Sounds harsh....I love you, you are brilliant...


 


however nothing wrong being mindful of other peoples feelings...


 


x



And how harsh have most of us here been with her, to include me? I can move on from the epic knock down fights I've had with her without bitching about how much she's hurting my feelings on a forum. She gives it as much as she gets it and she damn sure gets it alot. People attack her all the time for days on end. Once, I hammered Laura for 3 days straight. She gave it right back to me for those same 3 days. We still don't agree on a lot of things but I would rather have her in a foxhole in a time of war than some of these cupcakes seeking an emotional crutch in a forum. Certain sensitive souls who are predisposed to fragility and need mommy's protective pouch ,need to leave all of that damn baggage at the door. Go buy a puppy if you need that much love! This is not a therapy hall with levels of care based upon your emotional state. I need a drink.


---Thank you😀 I have no idea why people that things so personal. This is all discussion and debate. I never come out cussing anyone out unless they come at me first and I do not talk about anybody's mama. I try to back up my comments with facts some of which I cannot post to this forum or it is just my opinion. You can never beat facts with emotionalism.
Reply #209 posted 03/21/17 1:55am

laurarichardson

BillieBalloon said:

SBartist said:

 



laurarichardson said:


206Michelle said:

 


Laura, How on earth do you come to the conclusion that, "It almost sounds like she wanted to get rid of the child"? That is a very strong statement to make about Mayte. You must be basing your opinion off of the bootleg version of the book, because the excerpt in the People article says nothing and suggests nothing to support your conclusion that Mayte felt this way. disbelief 



All I have is the bootlegg version and to be fair she never said she wanted an abortion but what else could they have done? If she knew what the problem was before hand it would not have made it any less upsetting. Why is she carrying on about that est 20 years later.

 


Just chiming in here, because I have been following Pt 1 and Pt 2 along.  Laura - your comment is so wrong and inappropriate. No wonder rumors get started with cr@p statements like your post.  How many other rumors have you started????  SMH




Would you class Mayte saying Prince burned the babys ashes on a fire as a rumour?

Remember, this is info somebody told her that had heard it from someone else.
Now if you want to talk about rumour mongering, lets address this one as well.

Tell it. How does one burn ashes? If anything he probably scattered them and it is weird that she did not ask about now. What if the family has the Urn? Why did she not try to get it in the first place. I checked out his cousin Charles Smith Facebook page seems like comments ate directed at what he calls liars. Cannot help but think his family is steamed.
Reply #210 posted 03/21/17 1:55am

Lovejunky

double post

[Edited 3/21/17 2:59am]

“LOVE IS THE MASTERPLAN”
Reply #211 posted 03/21/17 2:58am

Lovejunky

Lovejunky said:

laurarichardson said:

Menes said: ---Thank you😀 I have no idea why people that things so personal. This is all discussion and debate. I never come out cussing anyone out unless they come at me first and I do not talk about anybody's mama. I try to back up my comments with facts some of which I cannot post to this forum or it is just my opinion. You can never beat facts with emotionalism.

and you know I support you.

And Ive never taken anything you said personal..but then you have never been overly crisp to me...

I might turn into a cry baby too if you were... razz

“LOVE IS THE MASTERPLAN”
Reply #212 posted 03/21/17 3:12am

laurarichardson

Lovejunky said:

 



Lovejunky said:


 



laurarichardson said:


Menes said: ---Thank you😀 I have no idea why people that things so personal. This is all discussion and debate. I never come out cussing anyone out unless they come at me first and I do not talk about anybody's mama. I try to back up my comments with facts some of which I cannot post to this forum or it is just my opinion. You can never beat facts with emotionalism.

and you know I support you.


And Ive never taken anything you said personal..but then you have never been overly crisp to me...


 


I might turn into a cry baby too if you were... razz


 


 



 


Not going to be crisp with you😀. One good thing I noticed yesterday was very little news stories about the book trending in Google news. Lot's of good interviews with the Revolution.'Andre Cymone, and Dave Chapple.
Reply #213 posted 03/21/17 3:31am

MMJas

laurarichardson said:

MMJas said:

That's not what I was referring to at all, Laura. I think Prince's face of terror came from a place where before he had felt certain God had his back, that's how strong his faith was. He did not expect his son to be so deformed because basically apparently the doctors had only prepared them for the dwarfism possibility. What baby Amir had was much, much worse.

I never said anything about an abortion. I have no idea if they would have gone down that road. Nobody does, besides them and probably immediate family. It's getting really tiring hearing people who did not know him personally state things as facts, especially intimate thoughts, decisions and opinions from a man not many knew intimately.

We have no way of knowing what his thoughts were. Not even Mayte, who was his wife for 10 years and endured that terrible pain and loss with him, went there. Not even she suggests he was thinking this or that, feeling this or that. She says he prayed before his birth. He never let his son alone throughout the whole week long ordeal, even sparing her the worst part.
And then, while he's down, perhaps feeling conflicted about his own faith, about his own choices, perhaps, someone comes along and... you know the rest.

[Edited 3/20/17 12:52pm]

If I had no way of knowing what his thoughts were then you have no way of knowing his thoughts when he saw his son. I do not believe he felt conflicted I believe he had faith to his dying day and many of his own comments out if own back up what I am saying. I know it is cool to knock religion but I believe he was always a Christian.

Precisely. I was sharing my opinion, not stating facts.

But I'm gonna leave it at that. Don't want to discuss religion with anyone, we are coming from two totally different places here. smile

Reply #214 posted 03/21/17 3:33am

MMJas

disch said:

FYI "annulment" as a legal matter is pretty limited; it really only applies to situations where there was fraud involved (for example one spouse was still married to someone else).

-

Despite what Prince said, what he and Mayte did was "divorce."

annalizer said:

Menes said: Yeah. It was quick. The annulment could have been a legal (financial)matter and in consistent Prince patterns, he might like/love you, but half? I don't think so.

I find it hard that someone can annul a marriage after years of marriage and having had a child together.... So most likely he just said it, but was not true.

[Edited 3/21/17 3:54am]

Reply #215 posted 03/21/17 4:23am

PennyPurple

laurarichardson said:

BillieBalloon said:
Would you class Mayte saying Prince burned the babys ashes on a fire as a rumour? Remember, this is info somebody told her that had heard it from someone else. Now if you want to talk about rumour mongering, lets address this one as well.
Tell it. How does one burn ashes? If anything he probably scattered them and it is weird that she did not ask about now. What if the family has the Urn? Why did she not try to get it in the first place. I checked out his cousin Charles Smith Facebook page seems like comments ate directed at what he calls liars. Cannot help but think his family is steamed.

There is a BIG difference from scattering the ashes to throwing them in a fire......

.

Charles Smith?? Isn't he the one that Prince hadn't talked to for years? The one who doesn't pass up any interview, for his 15 minutes of fame?

Reply #216 posted 03/21/17 4:45am

Lovejunky

laurarichardson said:

Lovejunky said:

Not going to be crisp with you😀. One good thing I noticed yesterday was very little news stories about the book trending in Google news. Lot's of good interviews with the Revolution.'Andre Cymone, and Dave Chapple.

see...this is what I really like about you Laura....

You never bite the ones who dont deserve it...

“LOVE IS THE MASTERPLAN”
Reply #217 posted 03/21/17 5:04am

joytotheworld

Menes said:

Purplestar88 said:

That's why in my earlier post I ask what is the real story on her doing the book. Her friend claims Prince never stop her from releasing the book or talking about him. She was talking about writing the the book before his death. If Prince never stop her why did she wait so long to write it but some people are saying he stop her from doing and saying what she wanted when it is not the case according to her. And then now she is saying she did not go though with book deals because they were pushing for salacious details but turn around and do the thing you claim you were against. This does not add up.

Purplestar88 states:" She was talking about writing the book before his death" ,and, " now she is saying she did not go through with the book deals because they were pushing for salacious details but turned around and did the same thing you claim you were against". There lies the conundrum which very few people care to explain. What changed?

Perhaps because they may not be considered salacious details to everyone. I'd hate to see what the reaction would be from some were she to write multiple volumes...it's riduculous now.

Reply #218 posted 03/21/17 5:13am

laurarichardson

PennyPurple said:

 



laurarichardson said:


BillieBalloon said:
Would you class Mayte saying Prince burned the babys ashes on a fire as a rumour? Remember, this is info somebody told her that had heard it from someone else. Now if you want to talk about rumour mongering, lets address this one as well.

Tell it. How does one burn ashes? If anything he probably scattered them and it is weird that she did not ask about now. What if the family has the Urn? Why did she not try to get it in the first place. I checked out his cousin Charles Smith Facebook page seems like comments ate directed at what he calls liars. Cannot help but think his family is steamed.

There is a BIG difference from scattering the ashes to throwing them in a fire.....


.


Charles Smith?? Isn't he the one that Prince hadn't talked to for years? The one who doesn't pass up any interview, for his 15 minutes of fame?


*** She did not see him throw anything. Someone told her and she did not even say who. How do you burn ashes? My guess is he scattered/discarded and got rid of the urn. The question is has she ever tried to contact the family members to see if the urn was in his personal belongings? Or is it more productive to bitch about it in a book. As far as Charles is concerned we have no idea what is relationship with Prince like. He is family so he has access to information we do not have and he is refers to someone lying. He is also promoting the hashtag Justice For Prince and is disgruntled about something. Do you really think his family is going to okay with her actions. Even the will comments if she thinks there is a will she should be taking that info to the court. Not using the info to sell books.
[Edited 3/21/17 5:35am]
Reply #219 posted 03/21/17 5:18am

fortuneandserendipity

Let's get back on track here. This thread is about Mayte (not tooth fairies) nod

photo giphy_zpshcawvuda.gif

"Musically way ahead of any of us" - Elton John on P

"I am a dyed-in-the-wool Englishman!" - Mozart (EU hater)


If most of the vault is like 'OLD FRIENDS 4 SALE' (8/10) prepare to be amazed, if it's more like NPG CLUB albums then don't expect much
Reply #220 posted 03/21/17 5:21am

PennyPurple

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

There is a BIG difference from scattering the ashes to throwing them in a fire......

.

Charles Smith?? Isn't he the one that Prince hadn't talked to for years? The one who doesn't pass up any interview, for his 15 minutes of fame?

*** She did see him throw anything. Someone told her and she died not even say who. How do you burn ashes? My guess is he scattered/discarded and got rid of the urn. The question is has she ever tried to contact the family members to see if the urn personal belongings? Or is it more productive to bitch about it in a book. As far as Charles is concerned we have no idea what is relationship with Prince like. He is family so he has access to information we do not have and he is refers g to someone lying. He is also promoting the hashtag Justice For Prince and is disgruntled about something. Do you really think his family is going to okay with her actions. Even the will comments if she thinks there is a will she should be taking that info to the court. Not using the info to sell books.

Just because Charles Smith is family, doesn't mean he has access to any info. How do we know that she didn't tell anybody that there was a will? We simply do not know.

Reply #221 posted 03/21/17 5:21am

fortuneandserendipity

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[Edited 3/21/17 13:36pm]

"Musically way ahead of any of us" - Elton John on P

"I am a dyed-in-the-wool Englishman!" - Mozart (EU hater)


If most of the vault is like 'OLD FRIENDS 4 SALE' (8/10) prepare to be amazed, if it's more like NPG CLUB albums then don't expect much
Reply #222 posted 03/21/17 5:34am

laurarichardson

PennyPurple said:

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said: *** She did see him throw anything. Someone told her and she died not even say who. How do you burn ashes? My guess is he scattered/discarded and got rid of the urn. The question is has she ever tried to contact the family members to see if the urn personal belongings? Or is it more productive to bitch about it in a book. As far as Charles is concerned we have no idea what is relationship with Prince like. He is family so he has access to information we do not have and he is refers g to someone lying. He is also promoting the hashtag Justice For Prince and is disgruntled about something. Do you really think his family is going to okay with her actions. Even the will comments if she thinks there is a will she should be taking that info to the court. Not using the info to sell books.

Just because Charles Smith is family, doesn't mean he has access to any info. How do we know that she didn't tell anybody that there was a will? We simply do not know.

So the family members know nothing and Mayte who was not married to him for 20 damm years has all the info? Please stop and think about this for one minute.

Reply #223 posted 03/21/17 5:41am

laurarichardson

MMJas said:

disch said:

FYI "annulment" as a legal matter is pretty limited; it really only applies to situations where there was fraud involved (for example one spouse was still married to someone else).

-

Despite what Prince said, what he and Mayte did was "divorce."

I find it hard that someone can annul a marriage after years of marriage and having had a child together.... So most likely he just said it, but was not true.

[Edited 3/21/17 3:54am]

I believe that were divored and he did not want to say so in public. She had better hope the Star Tribune does not start digging around.

Here is another lie. She is bringing him an aspirin in this interview yet she scoffs at the fact that he said he had migrians. How could you live/travel with someone and not know their health issues? I swear she acts like the internet does not exsist.


“Looking back now and being much older I can see it was something else,” Garcia, now 43, tells PEOPLE. “I never saw him do anything – not even take an aspirin.”

http://people.com/music/prince-ex-wife-mayte-garcia-never-saw-drugs-admits-disturbing-incidents/


From The Irish Times, 1998

Mayte enters with a pill and a cup of tea. “Gotta take my vitamins,” he says. “Actually, it’s an aspirin. Too much talking gives me a headache.”

Reply #224 posted 03/21/17 5:46am

Purplestar88

joytotheworld said:

Menes said:

Purplestar88 states:" She was talking about writing the book before his death" ,and, " now she is saying she did not go through with the book deals because they were pushing for salacious details but turned around and did the same thing you claim you were against". There lies the conundrum which very few people care to explain. What changed?

Perhaps because they may not be considered salacious details to everyone. I'd hate to see what the reaction would be from some were she to write multiple volumes...it's riduculous now.

Of course what is condsider salacious to me might not be salaious to you or everyone else but my point is she was going round for years like Prince was holding her back from talking and writing in details about him but her and her friend is saying something different now. I don't think is right for her to do that. If he never stoped her why is she using Prince as a clutch as to way she never went into details. She made the decision not to into details, so why is she still saying it was out of reguard for Prince why she didn't. I don't like that she is going on her high horse saying she did not want to there with the salacious details but clearly she went there in the end away.

Reply #225 posted 03/21/17 5:50am

1Sasha

Just as an aside: one of the Kennedys had his marriage annulled so he could marry the next wife in the church. This was after many years and children. So it can happen in the Catholic Church, which was not Prince's religion.

With the exception of Kirk, I don't know anyone in Prince's inner circle who might have known "everything." I don't think Mayte knew a lot of what was going on ... Yes, she was young, but Prince was secretive and he compartmentalized the people he came in contact with, plus he had all the money and power. He couldn't have pulled that off with an older woman, but a teenager into her early 20s - very easy to do. Especially if her family was on the gravy train, too (which I don't know about). I am going to read the book, but I don't think it will have much bearing on the 2016 Prince.

Reply #226 posted 03/21/17 5:54am

MMJas

laurarichardson said:

MMJas said:

I find it hard that someone can annul a marriage after years of marriage and having had a child together.... So most likely he just said it, but was not true.

[Edited 3/21/17 3:54am]

I believe that were divored and he did not want to say so in public. She had better hope the Star Tribune does not start digging around.

Here is another lie. She is bringing him an aspirin in this interview yet she scoffs at the fact that he said he had migrians. How could you live/travel with someone and not know their health issues? I swear she acts like the internet does not exsist.


“Looking back now and being much older I can see it was something else,” Garcia, now 43, tells PEOPLE. “I never saw him do anything – not even take an aspirin.”

http://people.com/music/prince-ex-wife-mayte-garcia-never-saw-drugs-admits-disturbing-incidents/


From The Irish Times, 1998

Mayte enters with a pill and a cup of tea. “Gotta take my vitamins,” he says. “Actually, it’s an aspirin. Too much talking gives me a headache.”

Maybe, yes.

Concerning the migraine: was not aware that she scoffed him for suffering from migraines. Where did you read that? As far as I could tell, she remembers him saying he was suffering from migraines whereas in fact she now thinks it perhaps was a totally different issue.

And who knows, perhaps that was a vitamin indeed she gave him and he then said it was an aspirin just to be funny, to make a point about being sick of talking.

All I'm saying is we can read into things ad aeternum. What we read between the lines says a lot about where we are coming from and what our thoughts and positions are regarding specific issues. And, ultimately, we are all like John Snow. wink

Reply #227 posted 03/21/17 6:01am

joytotheworld

laurarichardson said:

MMJas said:

I find it hard that someone can annul a marriage after years of marriage and having had a child together.... So most likely he just said it, but was not true.

[Edited 3/21/17 3:54am]

I believe that were divored and he did not want to say so in public. She had better hope the Star Tribune does not start digging around.

Here is another lie. She is bringing him an aspirin in this interview yet she scoffs at the fact that he said he had migrians. How could you live/travel with someone and not know their health issues? I swear she acts like the internet does not exsist.


“Looking back now and being much older I can see it was something else,” Garcia, now 43, tells PEOPLE. “I never saw him do anything – not even take an aspirin.”

http://people.com/music/prince-ex-wife-mayte-garcia-never-saw-drugs-admits-disturbing-incidents/


From The Irish Times, 1998

Mayte enters with a pill and a cup of tea. “Gotta take my vitamins,” he says. “Actually, it’s an aspirin. Too much talking gives me a headache.”

Please....that was almost 20 years ago. If you remember everything and tiny things such as that from 19-20 years ago, if so more power to you. Frankly, it is getting to the point of who gives damn? I sure don't. In fact I have ordered more copies of the book for friends. Who knows, maybe Prince lied. People let us know what they want us to know and what they don't is none of our business. Looks like in some respects, drawing at straws.

Reply #228 posted 03/21/17 6:06am

laurarichardson

joytotheworld said:

laurarichardson said:

I believe that were divored and he did not want to say so in public. She had better hope the Star Tribune does not start digging around.

Here is another lie. She is bringing him an aspirin in this interview yet she scoffs at the fact that he said he had migrians. How could you live/travel with someone and not know their health issues? I swear she acts like the internet does not exsist.


“Looking back now and being much older I can see it was something else,” Garcia, now 43, tells PEOPLE. “I never saw him do anything – not even take an aspirin.”

http://people.com/music/prince-ex-wife-mayte-garcia-never-saw-drugs-admits-disturbing-incidents/


From The Irish Times, 1998

Mayte enters with a pill and a cup of tea. “Gotta take my vitamins,” he says. “Actually, it’s an aspirin. Too much talking gives me a headache.”

Please....that was almost 20 years ago. If you remember everything and tiny things such as that from 19-20 years ago, if so more power to you. Frankly, it is getting to the point of who gives damn? I sure don't. In fact I have ordered more copies of the book for friends. Who knows, maybe Prince lied. People let us know what they want us to know and what they don't is none of our business. Looks like in some respects, drawing at straws.

It is not about remembering it is in print. Do you think the reporter made up this exchange? She went and got the pill for him. Don't you think she would have known what it was? Pills have information printed on them? She states in the book that she had no idea about what he was taking. Maybe he was not telling tall tales. Maybe he took aspirian and pain killlers because he had pain. The lack of caring about what his issues were so she can exploit it is wrong on all levels.

Reply #229 posted 03/21/17 6:07am

laurarichardson

MMJas said:

laurarichardson said:

I believe that were divored and he did not want to say so in public. She had better hope the Star Tribune does not start digging around.

Here is another lie. She is bringing him an aspirin in this interview yet she scoffs at the fact that he said he had migrians. How could you live/travel with someone and not know their health issues? I swear she acts like the internet does not exsist.


“Looking back now and being much older I can see it was something else,” Garcia, now 43, tells PEOPLE. “I never saw him do anything – not even take an aspirin.”

http://people.com/music/prince-ex-wife-mayte-garcia-never-saw-drugs-admits-disturbing-incidents/


From The Irish Times, 1998

Mayte enters with a pill and a cup of tea. “Gotta take my vitamins,” he says. “Actually, it’s an aspirin. Too much talking gives me a headache.”

Maybe, yes.

Concerning the migraine: was not aware that she scoffed him for suffering from migraines. Where did you read that? As far as I could tell, she remembers him saying he was suffering from migraines whereas in fact she now thinks it perhaps was a totally different issue.

And who knows, perhaps that was a vitamin indeed she gave him and he then said it was an aspirin just to be funny, to make a point about being sick of talking.

All I'm saying is we can read into things ad aeternum. What we read between the lines says a lot about where we are coming from and what our thoughts and positions are regarding specific issues. And, ultimately, we are all like John Snow. wink

The fact that she does not think so now but in this article she was bringing him an aspirian. You realize their is whole hoardes of stuff from the internet that debunks a lot of what she is saying. People are pulling this info. It is not going to go away.

[Edited 3/21/17 6:08am]

Reply #230 posted 03/21/17 6:14am

laurarichardson

1Sasha said:

Just as an aside: one of the Kennedys had his marriage annulled so he could marry the next wife in the church. This was after many years and children. So it can happen in the Catholic Church, which was not Prince's religion.

With the exception of Kirk, I don't know anyone in Prince's inner circle who might have known "everything." I don't think Mayte knew a lot of what was going on ... Yes, she was young, but Prince was secretive and he compartmentalized the people he came in contact with, plus he had all the money and power. He couldn't have pulled that off with an older woman, but a teenager into her early 20s - very easy to do. Especially if her family was on the gravy train, too (which I don't know about). I am going to read the book, but I don't think it will have much bearing on the 2016 Prince.

__ I think Morris Hayes knows a lot. See the Times article below. So many disturbing things I would not know where to start. The fact that she and her sister were molested explains a lot about her. Also they way I am reading this she seemed to be fine with being in his harem before he married her. Why!!!! I have yet to figure out what he had on these women that they put up with this sister/wife crap. She also said he hynotized her and I think she mean literally. eek . What would make her think he was going to change? Also does she not realize that the other sister/wives are going to come for her since she is shading them in the book.

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http://www.thetimes.co.uk...-fbj8k70fw

picture of Prince the day he and Garcia got their dog Mila




We meet on a sunny morning in the San Fernando Valley at her local dog park. These days, as well as working as a belly-dancing instructor, Garcia, 43, is the founder of a small dog-rescue charity. She springs like a particularly limber puppy onto the top of a picnic table and sits down. I climb up too and spend the next two hours wishing I had something to stop my sheet of questions blowing away every time the wind gets up.
Birds are singing loudly. A nearby sign warns “Caution Rattlesnakes”.
Garcia has one lithe dancer’s leg stretched out between us and the other tucked beneath her. Her eyes stare intently from behind thick-framed spectacles and a dense mane of dark hair is pulled back in a loose bun.
She speaks in a soft, sing-song voice punctuated by frequent bouts of giggles, but there is tragedy running through her story.
Covering her left wrist is a huge tattoo of Prince’s symbol interwoven with the first letter of her name, a logo that he wore on the back of his white wedding suit and had monogrammed all over their home – on the china, the curtains, napkins and towels – before he burnt everything that reminded him of her after their marriage failed, including the ashes of their son, Amiir, who died in infancy.
She had the tattoo done two weeks after Prince died. “My mom was like, ‘You should have gone bigger.’ ”




Garcia’s mother, who comes across as a whirlwind of ambition and energy in the book, lives downstairs from her. She’s married to Garcia’s father again – for the third time – in the latest twist in a chaotic relationship, but apparently “they can’t stand each other”.
Home life revolves around Gia, Garcia’s five-year-old adopted daughter, and their animals: a guinea pig, two cats, seven birds and seven dogs. “I could charge you $5 for a petting zoo,” she deadpans.
There’s a blown-up picture on the living-room wall of her with Prince and a clutch of awards in her office, she says, but otherwise little sign of the life she once led.
Two things stand out about how she talks about Prince. For starters, it’s often in the present tense, even though he has been dead almost a year. I’m not sure how conscious she is of it. She cries at night still, weeping partly for her lost soulmate, partly for the two children he gave her who did not survive (a second pregnancy ended in a miscarriage).
The other thing I notice is that she barely refers to him by name at all.
She avoided doing it even as his wife, or when dancing in dozens of music videos, on five world tours and a couple of hundred after-shows. Right from their first meeting, she understood on some level that, “If I would have called him Prince, I would have started screaming and jumping up and down, so I separated the rock star from the man in the hotel room.” She never called him anything.
Garcia was born on a military base in Alabama. Her father was a pilot; her mother a dance teacher. Garcia began dancing at three and was belly-dancing for money at seven, going on to earn a mild dose of fame by dancing with a sword on her head for the same primetime talent show that introduced a five-year-old Tiger Woods to the world.
Around the same time she was abused by a family friend, who would later molest her older sister, Jan. “I think that’s one of the reasons why I stayed a virgin and didn’t date.”
Her parents divorced and her father moved to a new base in Germany. When her mother realised that she had made a mistake, the family flew out to join him. Garcia’s sideline career took off there and she had saved $100,000 by the time she was 16. Belly-dancing continued to dominate her free time when she was not in class, coincidentally attending the same American high school in Wiesbaden where the future Priscilla Presley studied between meeting Elvis and marrying him.
It was her sister who was a real Prince fan, and who persuaded the family to drive across Europe to see him perform in Barcelona in July 1990. But when Garcia saw Prince on stage, everything changed. The power of his performance was like “a marathon jumping into a tornado swallowed by wild horses”, she writes. It wasn’t a crush. “I just remember thinking, ‘I need to meet him, and I need to dance for him.’ ”
skip


In her book, Garcia is discreet about sex. I ask her what was it like to go to bed with the man who sang about 23 positions in a one-night stand?
“Very, very tender,” she says, after a pause. “I can’t say for all the other women. For me, it was always very tender and attentive and sweet. Even though I danced on stage with handcuffs, there was never any of that.”
He did not sing to her in bed, although he did play his song Let’s Have a Baby when they were trying to conceive. He wore eyeliner and women’s cologne, “but it worked. He was very masculine.”
Prince, she says, had two personalities. On one side there was the “insatiable sex thing”. She never saw that Prince. “I saw the boyfriend. Nothing crazy. Loving.

Respectful.” She did not envy the women who catered to his other side. “I was held high on this pedestal, and I liked it.”
The life they had together sometimes felt normal. Prince loved to impersonate people and prank-call local shops or guests at Paisley Park. They would go to the supermarket in the middle of the night and could eat in local restaurants if they had a private room, though mostly they ordered takeaways. Once they became vegans, they found a pair of green-fingered housewives who grew them more vegetables than they knew what to do with. Prince loved sport, particularly basketball, despite his height, and boxing. He had been in fights at school during a difficult upbringing and liked to wrestle with Garcia.
They spent much of their time closed off from the world in Paisley Park, a place that could feel like an out-of-town business park, only with its own sound stage, studios, editing facilities, basketball court, hair salon and a “constant murmur” of doves. They would stay up till the early hours and sleep in the day. A trip to the shops with Prince was always like an episode of Supermarket Sweep, trying to grab anything that appealed before the other customers noticed him.
She learnt early on that nobody challenged Prince. “I would see other people do it, and then they would get cast out. OK, note to myself. Don’t do that. Don’t talk to him this way, because you’re going to get that.”
He once wrote her a letter explaining that, “When I have a disagreement with someone – it’s usually only one. Then they’re gone.” Whereas he didn’t mind fighting “with u because I know we’ll always be 2gether”.
In practice, though, she never stood up to her husband until the very end of their marriage. It’s one of the reasons she enjoyed being hypnotised by him: it was the only time that he would let her talk without interrupting.

Prince and Garcia officially divorced in 2000. “I don’t know how I got past all that,” she says now, narrowing her eyes. Having come into the marriage as an 18-year-old of substantial means, she left with next to nothing. Her mistake was to assume that Prince would be there if she ever needed financial help. Now to realise that he’s gone and he won’t be is “heartbreaking”. She is particularly confused by the absence of a will, “Because when I was married to him, he had one.”
There have been other boyfriends since 2000 – notably Pamela Anderson’s ex-husband Tommy Lee, of the band Mötley Crüe – but none that could take the place of Prince, her first love and the father of her dead son. His own death came as a total shock to Garcia. Because he was “very well guarded” from the public and she was no longer “in the circle”, she didn’t realise the extent to which he had become reliant on powerful opioids to dull the chronic pain caused by his athletic stage performances.

Reply #231 posted 03/21/17 6:26am

PennyPurple

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

Just because Charles Smith is family, doesn't mean he has access to any info. How do we know that she didn't tell anybody that there was a will? We simply do not know.

So the family members know nothing and Mayte who was not married to him for 20 damm years has all the info? Please stop and think about this for one minute.

STOP twisting it. I didn't say family members know nothing. I said Charles Smith may not have access to any info. Hadn't it been years since he had any dealings with Prince?

Reply #232 posted 03/21/17 6:32am

laurarichardson

PennyPurple said:

laurarichardson said:

So the family members know nothing and Mayte who was not married to him for 20 damm years has all the info? Please stop and think about this for one minute.

STOP twisting it. I didn't say family members know nothing. I said Charles Smith may not have access to any info. Hadn't it been years since he had any dealings with Prince?

I asked a question thus the use of a question mark. Thiis what I mean about people getting in their feelings and not debating and discussing. Because he may not have had any dealings with Prince does not mean he does not know what is going on with the investigation or what went on between Prince and his first wife. He would know more then you or I.

Reply #233 posted 03/21/17 6:37am

PennyPurple

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

STOP twisting it. I didn't say family members know nothing. I said Charles Smith may not have access to any info. Hadn't it been years since he had any dealings with Prince?

I asked a question thus the use of a question mark. Thiis what I mean about people getting in their feelings and not debating and discussing. Because he may not have had any dealings with Prince does not mean he does not know what is going on with the investigation or what went on between Prince and his first wife. He would know more then you or I.

Not in my feelings at all. Just tired of you twisting every single thing that any poster says, unless it's in agreement with you.

Reply #234 posted 03/21/17 7:07am

joytotheworld

laurarichardson said:

joytotheworld said:

Please....that was almost 20 years ago. If you remember everything and tiny things such as that from 19-20 years ago, if so more power to you. Frankly, it is getting to the point of who gives damn? I sure don't. In fact I have ordered more copies of the book for friends. Who knows, maybe Prince lied. People let us know what they want us to know and what they don't is none of our business. Looks like in some respects, drawing at straws.

It is not about remembering it is in print. Do you think the reporter made up this exchange? She went and got the pill for him. Don't you think she would have known what it was? Pills have information printed on them? She states in the book that she had no idea about what he was taking. Maybe he was not telling tall tales. Maybe he took aspirian and pain killlers because he had pain. The lack of caring about what his issues were so she can exploit it is wrong on all levels.

I dont' know if he had pain for sure. I believe he did, but who knows he was not that forthcoming. She may have known about it at the time, but 19 -20 years later....I will let her off the hook.What I don't care about is whether or not did she or didnt she, why doesn't she, why did she? To ME, it doesnt' matter. Please don't tell me what is right or wrong for me. I personally don't think she is exploiting him. If you think that is the case, so are the rest of them. Sheila, The Time, NPG, et al. to ME regardless of their association to Prince. It's a BOOK and it is not a life or death issue to ME. I just want to read the BOOK and not a bootleg copy or excerpt and draw MY own conclusions. I have been a fan of his since the begnning and the book in no way changes that for ME. It seems everything is either black or white and there is little to no gray where some are concerned. It is likely not the last book that one of his associates, proteges, bandmember or perhaps even a family member may write. If the case, i hope there is this much fervor about that. Frankly, I can't stand one of his former proteges but I am not all over the site badmouthing her every chance I get ad nauseum.

Reply #235 posted 03/21/17 7:35am

laurarichardson

joytotheworld said:

laurarichardson said:

It is not about remembering it is in print. Do you think the reporter made up this exchange? She went and got the pill for him. Don't you think she would have known what it was? Pills have information printed on them? She states in the book that she had no idea about what he was taking. Maybe he was not telling tall tales. Maybe he took aspirian and pain killlers because he had pain. The lack of caring about what his issues were so she can exploit it is wrong on all levels.

I dont' know if he had pain for sure. I believe he did, but who knows he was not that forthcoming. She may have known about it at the time, but 19 -20 years later....I will let her off the hook.What I don't care about is whether or not did she or didnt she, why doesn't she, why did she? To ME, it doesnt' matter. Please don't tell me what is right or wrong for me. I personally don't think she is exploiting him. If you think that is the case, so are the rest of them. Sheila, The Time, NPG, et al. to ME regardless of their association to Prince. It's a BOOK and it is not a life or death issue to ME. I just want to read the BOOK and not a bootleg copy or excerpt and draw MY own conclusions. I have been a fan of his since the begnning and the book in no way changes that for ME. It seems everything is either black or white and there is little to no gray where some are concerned. It is likely not the last book that one of his associates, proteges, bandmember or perhaps even a family member may write. If the case, i hope there is this much fervor about that. Frankly, I can't stand one of his former proteges but I am not all over the site badmouthing her every chance I get ad nauseum.

Who would be forthcoming about the health to the public? There is no grey here. Some things are the truth and some are lies. The Time and Sheila E are out playing music which they did with Prince and without him for years how is doing your job exploiting. The are also not out hawking books. No one is bad mouthing her she and Dave are doing a great job on there own.

Reply #236 posted 03/21/17 7:55am

Misslink88

Menes

And how harsh have most of us here been with her, to include me? I can move on from the epic knock down fights I've had with her without bitching about how much she's hurting my feelings on a forum. She gives it as much as she gets it and she damn sure gets it alot. People attack her all the time for days on end. Once, I hammered Laura for 3 days straight. She gave it right back to me for those same 3 days. We still don't agree on a lot of things but I would rather have her in a foxhole in a time of war than some of these cupcakes seeking an emotional crutch in a forum. Certain sensitive souls who are predisposed to fragility and need mommy's protective pouch, need to leave all of that damn baggage at the door. Go buy a puppy if you need that much love! This is not a therapy hall with levels of care based upon your emotional state. I need a drink.

That should be on the front page and mandatory reading for all members.

God is my Sugar Daddy.
Reply #237 posted 03/21/17 8:04am

MMJas

joytotheworld said:

laurarichardson said:

It is not about remembering it is in print. Do you think the reporter made up this exchange? She went and got the pill for him. Don't you think she would have known what it was? Pills have information printed on them? She states in the book that she had no idea about what he was taking. Maybe he was not telling tall tales. Maybe he took aspirian and pain killlers because he had pain. The lack of caring about what his issues were so she can exploit it is wrong on all levels.

I dont' know if he had pain for sure. I believe he did, but who knows he was not that forthcoming. She may have known about it at the time, but 19 -20 years later....I will let her off the hook.What I don't care about is whether or not did she or didnt she, why doesn't she, why did she? To ME, it doesnt' matter. Please don't tell me what is right or wrong for me. I personally don't think she is exploiting him. If you think that is the case, so are the rest of them. Sheila, The Time, NPG, et al. to ME regardless of their association to Prince. It's a BOOK and it is not a life or death issue to ME. I just want to read the BOOK and not a bootleg copy or excerpt and draw MY own conclusions. I have been a fan of his since the begnning and the book in no way changes that for ME. It seems everything is either black or white and there is little to no gray where some are concerned. It is likely not the last book that one of his associates, proteges, bandmember or perhaps even a family member may write. If the case, i hope there is this much fervor about that. Frankly, I can't stand one of his former proteges but I am not all over the site badmouthing her every chance I get ad nauseum.

And there is sooooo much grey...

Reply #238 posted 03/21/17 8:10am

Menes

Purplestar88 said:

joytotheworld said:

Perhaps because they may not be considered salacious details to everyone. I'd hate to see what the reaction would be from some were she to write multiple volumes...it's riduculous now.

Of course what is condsider salacious to me might not be salaious to you or everyone else but my point is she was going round for years like Prince was holding her back from talking and writing in details about him but her and her friend is saying something different now. I don't think is right for her to do that. If he never stoped her why is she using Prince as a clutch as to way she never went into details. She made the decision not to into details, so why is she still saying it was out of reguard for Prince why she didn't. I don't like that she is going on her high horse saying she did not want to there with the salacious details but clearly she went there in the end away.

We shall see how she reacts if people start revisiting her past and revising it in the publics eye to make some money. I am 100 percent sure she was no saint. Certain words are being used to describe her books as "a love story" "coming from a loving place", "other worldly connection" etc. Such descriptions ususally share a quasi-symbiotic relationship with words like loyalty , trust, truth, and lastly, honor. This is not over .

Reply #239 posted 03/21/17 8:26am

precioux

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

yeahthat

You need to check the dictionary as well before you cosign.

LMFAO! laura, every other word you TYPE is misspelled! Most of the time, just trying to read your illegible posts on this board is intellectually taxing dunce

Lesson for the day:

Oxymoron:

a figure of speech in which apparently contradictory terms appear in conjunjunction.

I stand by my original post, where I stated that you flat out contradict yourself by bashing evreryone on here that "may" buy Mayte's book, but yet you have a bootleg copy of it and are referencing snippets from it to bash Mayte even further. (In another post you even stated you aren't reading the "bootleg"...what are you waiting for the release date? See the contradiction there?)

Don't get butt hurt, or emtional about it, cupcake.... maybe just take a refresher course of 2nd GRADE!

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Reply #240 posted 03/21/17 8:34am

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame

disch said:

FYI "annulment" as a legal matter is pretty limited; it really only applies to situations where there was fraud involved (for example one spouse was still married to someone else).

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Despite what Prince said, what he and Mayte did was "divorce."

annalizer said:

Menes said: Yeah. It was quick. The annulment could have been a legal (financial)matter and in consistent Prince patterns, he might like/love you, but half? I don't think so.

What disch said is true.

It is extremely difficult to get a marriage annulled.

I seriously doubt their marriage was annulled under Minnesota laws it had to be a divorce.

Reply #241 posted 03/21/17 8:42am

PennyPurple

Was the rumor started here at the Org where he threw the baby's ashes into the fire????? Because that is NOT what the excerpt in People Magazine says.

No where does it say that he or the assistant burned the baby's ashes, clothes or pictures.

People are up in arms here for nothing. This wasn't said. People are just trying to cause trouble for Mayte, and that's not cool.

We don't even know IF he indeed even had the baby's ashes.

She got pregnant once more in 1997, but the pregnancy wasn't viable, and she was told she needed a D&C. Prince, who had begun studying the teachings of JW's, a religion he ultimately joined, opposed medical intervention; she went ahead anyway. by the following year he was keeping company with Manuela Testolini, a consultant for his charity. He was becoming more strident in his religious beliefs, writing in a song that he believed God was displeased with his early life and Amiir's death was part of the price he had to pay. But it was his request to have their marriage annulled, so they could "continue it in a less traditional fashion", that proved to be the last straw. After their divorce in 2000, Garcia was told, Prince had his assistant burn everything that reminded him of Garcia or the baby. On New Year's Eve 2001 he and Manuela wed.

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[Edited 3/21/17 8:46am]

Reply #242 posted 03/21/17 8:44am

Menes

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

disch said:

FYI "annulment" as a legal matter is pretty limited; it really only applies to situations where there was fraud involved (for example one spouse was still married to someone else).

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Despite what Prince said, what he and Mayte did was "divorce."

What disch said is true.

It is extremely difficult to get a marriage annulled.

I seriously doubt their marriage was annulled under Minnesota laws it had to be a divorce.

I think I have the article written in the Star Tribune concerning the modfications that were made concerning Prince's marriage vows and how he felt about "contracts". There were some changes made to reflect how and what he interpreted their marriage to be. I dont know if the timing coincides with an impending divorce but it was rather strange how that came about.

Reply #243 posted 03/21/17 8:50am

joytotheworld

laurarichardson said:

joytotheworld said:

I dont' know if he had pain for sure. I believe he did, but who knows he was not that forthcoming. She may have known about it at the time, but 19 -20 years later....I will let her off the hook.What I don't care about is whether or not did she or didnt she, why doesn't she, why did she? To ME, it doesnt' matter. Please don't tell me what is right or wrong for me. I personally don't think she is exploiting him. If you think that is the case, so are the rest of them. Sheila, The Time, NPG, et al. to ME regardless of their association to Prince. It's a BOOK and it is not a life or death issue to ME. I just want to read the BOOK and not a bootleg copy or excerpt and draw MY own conclusions. I have been a fan of his since the begnning and the book in no way changes that for ME. It seems everything is either black or white and there is little to no gray where some are concerned. It is likely not the last book that one of his associates, proteges, bandmember or perhaps even a family member may write. If the case, i hope there is this much fervor about that. Frankly, I can't stand one of his former proteges but I am not all over the site badmouthing her every chance I get ad nauseum.

Who would be forthcoming about the health to the public? There is no grey here. Some things are the truth and some are lies. The Time and Sheila E are out playing music which they did with Prince and without him for years how is doing your job exploiting. The are also not out hawking books. No one is bad mouthing her she and Dave are doing a great job on there own.

Why should she have to be as forthcoming about what she wrote about and explain every little detail either? I personally think he was ill and MAY have been self-medicating. I don't think he intended for April 21, 2016 to be his last day on earth. There is grey...for example, the factor of the passage of time that has gone by. The bandmembers, associates, etc are still making money off the connection to Prince. I forgot that there are Prince experts and those that knew him personally for many years on this site. I intend to enjoy reading the book and will likely purchase other material, recordings ect that interest me from the Prince connections/connectors. Did I say it was you that was badmouthing her? No, there are plenty others that are willing to jump in. LIke I said I dont care what the issues are that people think exist with the contents of the book or whether they think it disparages Prince...it doesn't change anything for me. Hope you have a good day.

Reply #244 posted 03/21/17 8:52am

precioux

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

disch said:

FYI "annulment" as a legal matter is pretty limited; it really only applies to situations where there was fraud involved (for example one spouse was still married to someone else).

-

Despite what Prince said, what he and Mayte did was "divorce."

What disch said is true.

It is extremely difficult to get a marriage annulled.

I seriously doubt their marriage was annulled under Minnesota laws it had to be a divorce.

BINGO!

I believe there are 4 (?) "requirements" under Minnesota law in order for an annulment to take place, and none of the factors of P &M1's marriage fell into those requirements. Legally, an annulment could not have taken place

Reply #245 posted 03/21/17 9:10am

laurarichardson

precioux said:

 



ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:


 



disch said:


FYI "annulment" as a legal matter is pretty limited; it really only applies to situations where there was fraud involved (for example one spouse was still married to someone else).


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Despite what Prince said, what he and Mayte did was "divorce."


 



What disch said is true.


It is extremely difficult to get a marriage annulled.


I seriously doubt their marriage was annulled under Minnesota laws it had to be a divorce.


 



BINGO!


I believe there are 4 (?) "requirements" under Minnesota law in order for an annulment to take place, and none of the factors of P &M1's marriage fell into those requirements. Legally, an annulment could not have taken place 


**** I believe they are divorced and think about how she looks not even knowing if she is divorced or if the marriage was annulled.
Reply #246 posted 03/21/17 9:12am

laurarichardson

joytotheworld said:

 



laurarichardson said:


 



joytotheworld said:


 


I dont' know if he had pain for sure.  I believe he did, but who knows he was not that forthcoming. She may have known about it at the time, but 19 -20 years later....I will let her off the hook.What I don't care about is whether or not did she or didnt she, why doesn't she, why did she? To ME, it doesnt' matter.  Please don't tell me what is right or wrong for me.  I personally don't think she is exploiting him.  If you think that is the case, so are the rest of them. Sheila, The Time, NPG, et al. to ME regardless of their association to Prince.  It's a BOOK and it is not a life or death issue to ME.  I just want to read the BOOK and not a bootleg copy or excerpt and draw MY own conclusions.  I have been a fan of his since the begnning and the book in no way changes that for ME. It seems everything is either black or white and there is little to no gray where some are concerned. It is likely not the last book that one of his associates, proteges, bandmember or perhaps even a family member may write.  If the case, i hope there is this much fervor about that.  Frankly, I can't stand one of his former proteges but I am not all over the site badmouthing her every chance I get ad nauseum.



Who would be forthcoming about the health to the public? There is no grey here. Some things are the truth and some are lies. The Time and Sheila E are out playing music which they did with Prince and without him for years how is doing your job exploiting. The are also not out hawking books. No one is bad mouthing her she and Dave are doing a great job on there own.



Why should she have to be as forthcoming about what she wrote about and explain every little detail either?  I personally think he was ill and MAY have been self-medicating.  I don't think he intended for April 21, 2016 to be his last day on earth.  There is grey...for example, the factor of the passage of time that has gone by. The bandmembers, associates, etc are still making money off the connection to Prince. I forgot that there are Prince experts and those that knew him personally for many years on this site.  I intend to enjoy reading the book and will likely purchase other material, recordings ect that interest me from the Prince connections/connectors.  Did I say it was you that was badmouthing her? No, there are plenty others that are willing to jump in.  LIke I said I dont care what the issues are that people think exist with the contents of the book or whether they think it disparages Prince...it doesn't change anything for me. Hope you have a  good day.


You are correcr she should not be giving any information at all because she does not know anything.
Reply #247 posted 03/21/17 9:14am

laurarichardson

precioux said:

 



laurarichardson said:


PennyPurple said:

 


yeahthat



You need to check the dictionary as well before you cosign.

LMFAO! laura, every other word you TYPE is misspelled! Most of the time,  just trying to read your illegible posts on this board is intellectually taxing dunce


 


Lesson for the day:


 


Oxymoron:


 a figure of speech in which apparently contradictory terms appear in conjunjunction.


 


 I stand by my original post, where I stated that you flat out contradict yourself by bashing evreryone on here that "may" buy Mayte's book, but yet you have a bootleg copy of it and are referencing snippets from it to bash Mayte even further. (In another post you even stated you aren't reading the "bootleg"...what are you waiting for the release date? See the contradiction there?)


 


Don't get butt hurt, or emtional about it, cupcake.... maybe just take a refresher course of 2nd GRADE!


 

[Edited 3/21/17 8:33am]


The auto correct on the phone is messed up. I have moved to my tablet now.
Reply #248 posted 03/21/17 9:15am

disch

And I'm certain Mayte's well aware that she's divorced and that Prince's "annulment" talk at the time was just his attempt at PR/image management.

precioux said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

What disch said is true.

It is extremely difficult to get a marriage annulled.

I seriously doubt their marriage was annulled under Minnesota laws it had to be a divorce.

BINGO!

I believe there are 4 (?) "requirements" under Minnesota law in order for an annulment to take place, and none of the factors of P &M1's marriage fell into those requirements. Legally, an annulment could not have taken place

Reply #249 posted 03/21/17 9:16am

precioux

laurarichardson said:

Menes said:

And how harsh have most of us here been with her, to include me? I can move on from the epic knock down fights I've had with her without bitching about how much she's hurting my feelings on a forum. She gives it as much as she gets it and she damn sure gets it alot. People attack her all the time for days on end. Once, I hammered Laura for 3 days straight. She gave it right back to me for those same 3 days. We still don't agree on a lot of things but I would rather have her in a foxhole in a time of war than some of these cupcakes seeking an emotional crutch in a forum. Certain sensitive souls who are predisposed to fragility and need mommy's protective pouch ,need to leave all of that damn baggage at the door. Go buy a puppy if you need that much love! This is not a therapy hall with levels of care based upon your emotional state. I need a drink.

---Thank you😀 I have no idea why people that things so personal. This is all discussion and debate. I never come out cussing anyone out unless they come at me first and I do not talk about anybody's mama. I try to back up my comments with facts some of which I cannot post to this forum or it is just my opinion. You can never beat facts with emotionalism.

The true point here is that you can not turn SUPPOSITION into FACT, just to uphold YOUR narrative...

should I start naming ALL of the suppositions you've posted on this thread alone by "unnamed sources" that you quote as FACT?

Reply #250 posted 03/21/17 9:16am

laurarichardson

Menes said:

 



Purplestar88 said:


 



joytotheworld said:


 


Perhaps because they may not be considered salacious details to everyone. I'd hate to see what the reaction would be from some were she to write multiple volumes...it's riduculous now.



Of course what is condsider salacious to me might not be salaious to you or everyone else but my point is she was going round for years like Prince was holding her back from talking and writing in details about him but her and her friend is saying something different now. I don't think is right for her to do that. If he never stoped her why is she using Prince as a clutch as to way she never went into details. She made the decision not to into details, so why is she still saying it was out of reguard for Prince why she didn't. I don't like that she is going on her high horse saying she did not want to there with the salacious details but clearly she went there in the end away.



We shall see how she reacts if people start revisiting her past and revising it in the publics eye to make some money. I am 100 percent sure she was no saint. Certain words are being used to describe her books as "a love story" "coming from a loving place", "other worldly connection" etc. Such descriptions ususally share a quasi-symbiotic relationship with words like loyalty , trust, truth, and lastly, honor. This is not over .


---- It is happening right now.
Reply #251 posted 03/21/17 9:16am

DD55

laurarichardson said:

MMJas said:

Maybe, yes.

Concerning the migraine: was not aware that she scoffed him for suffering from migraines. Where did you read that? As far as I could tell, she remembers him saying he was suffering from migraines whereas in fact she now thinks it perhaps was a totally different issue.

And who knows, perhaps that was a vitamin indeed she gave him and he then said it was an aspirin just to be funny, to make a point about being sick of talking.

All I'm saying is we can read into things ad aeternum. What we read between the lines says a lot about where we are coming from and what our thoughts and positions are regarding specific issues. And, ultimately, we are all like John Snow. wink

The fact that she does not think so now but in this article she was bringing him an aspirian. You realize their is whole hoardes of stuff from the internet that debunks a lot of what she is saying. People are pulling this info. It is not going to go away.

[Edited 3/21/17 6:08am]

"This is not going to go away" What??? Seriously, give it a rest already.

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Everyone is going on about ‘lies’, well everyone lies! And I don’t mean that in a negative way. It’s just in life sometimes you gloss over issues and reveal different things to different people at different times. We, the average person, get away with it because it’s usually not in print. For example a causal acquaintance may ask you about where you work, you say XYZ company and it is a good company. Meanwhile you tell your very good friends (who you trust) the truth, that you hate your job and the company is awful. Did you lie, yes but you just don’t give the same level of details to everyone. Plus you don’t know if that causal accquaintance is related to your boss or will go all over town repeating what you said.

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I would guess that she went along with whatever narrative Prince wanted her to, and over time slowly added details previously unknown, or spoke more candidly thus giving the appearance of the story changing.

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Then there is the whole issue of context. You can’t take a quote and apply it to any and all situations or events. I think digging up old articles and trying to expose ‘lies' is a waste of time. Most of you have acknowledged that Prince lied often. Just take the book for what it is, enjoy getting to know your beloved Prince a little bit more and call it a day.

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I’m sure we will see more books written in the future. I would be willing to bet that several of the people you guys have mentioned who knew and worked with Prince are typing away as we speak.

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I am going to buy the book.

Peace.

(corrected typo)

[Edited 3/21/17 9:37am]

Reply #252 posted 03/21/17 9:28am

precioux

disch said:

And I'm certain Mayte's well aware that she's divorced and that Prince's "annulment" talk at the time was just his attempt at PR/image management.

precioux said:

BINGO!

I believe there are 4 (?) "requirements" under Minnesota law in order for an annulment to take place, and none of the factors of P &M1's marriage fell into those requirements. Legally, an annulment could not have taken place

Yes, it's pretty silly to think Mayte doesn't "know" she's divorced...

Your thoughts on P's PR/image?

Stating that the marriage was annulled is quite a jab, not only to himself, but also to Mayte, being that an annullment voids the marriage as well as any children born into that marriage.

So, was he tryig to take a jab a Mayte, maybe tried to legally "erase" any evidence of the marriage for his own self preservation...

OR, do you think this annulment tactic was to "wipe the slate clean" in order to marry M2 with no ramifications in the JW religion?

Reply #253 posted 03/21/17 9:31am

Menes

DD55 said:

laurarichardson said:

The fact that she does not think so now but in this article she was bringing him an aspirian. You realize their is whole hoardes of stuff from the internet that debunks a lot of what she is saying. People are pulling this info. It is not going to go away.

[Edited 3/21/17 6:08am]

"This is not going to go away" What??? Seriously, give it a rest already.

.

Everyone is going on a out ‘lies’, well everyone lies! And I don’t mean that in a negative way. It’s just in life sometimes you gloss over issues and reveal different things to different people at different times. We, the average person, get away with it because it’s usually not in print. For example a causal acquaintance may ask you about where you work, you say XYZ company and it is a good company. Meanwhile you tell your very good friends (who you trust) the truth, that you hate your job and the company is awful. Did you lie, yes but you just don’t give the same level of details to everyone. Plus you don’t know if that causal accquaintance is related to your boss or will go all over town repeating what you said.

.

I would guess that she went along with whatever narrative Prince wanted her to, and over time slowly added details previously unknown, or spoke more candidly thus giving the appearance of the story changing.

.

Then there is the whole issue of context. You can’t take a quote and apply it to any and all situations or events. I think digging up old articles and trying to expose ‘lies' is a waste of time. Most of you have acknowledged that Prince lied often. Just take the book for what it is, enjoy getting to know your beloved Prince a little bit more and call it a day.

.

I’m sure we will see more books written in the future. I would be willing to bet that several of the people you guys have mentioned who knew and worked with Prince are typing away as we speak.

.

I am going to buy the book.

Peace.

If I were to pick two people who I thought would write a book, it would have been Tyka and Kirk. After Mayte's book, a publisher would need to think long and hard about how they would generate revenue from a book about Prince. I dont even think that museum is going to do to well in generating revenue in a few years. The world is moving too fast.

Reply #254 posted 03/21/17 9:31am

HerecomethePurpleYoda

DD55 said:

I’m sure we will see more books written in the future. I would be willing to bet that several of the people you guys have mentioned who knew and worked with Prince are typing away as we speak.

Yep. typing

Reply #255 posted 03/21/17 9:33am

MMJas

laurarichardson said:

Menes said:

We shall see how she reacts if people start revisiting her past and revising it in the publics eye to make some money. I am 100 percent sure she was no saint. Certain words are being used to describe her books as "a love story" "coming from a loving place", "other worldly connection" etc. Such descriptions ususally share a quasi-symbiotic relationship with words like loyalty , trust, truth, and lastly, honor. This is not over .

---- It is happening right now.

Where?

Reply #256 posted 03/21/17 9:38am

PennyPurple

precioux said:

disch said:

And I'm certain Mayte's well aware that she's divorced and that Prince's "annulment" talk at the time was just his attempt at PR/image management.

Yes, it's pretty silly to think Mayte doesn't "know" she's divorced...

Your thoughts on P's PR/image?

Stating that the marriage was annulled is quite a jab, not only to himself, but also to Mayte, being that an annullment voids the marriage as well as any children born into that marriage.

So, was he tryig to take a jab a Mayte, maybe tried to legally "erase" any evidence of the marriage for his own self preservation...

OR, do you think this annulment tactic was to "wipe the slate clean" in order to marry M2 with no ramifications in the JW religion?

I agree Precioux. Here is what she said in the People Magazine article.

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It was his request to have the marriage annulled-so they could "continue it in a less traditional fashion"- That proved to be the last straw.

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He was taking a jab at her, as if the marriage didn't mean anything and was nothing at all.

Reply #257 posted 03/21/17 9:39am

PennyPurple

laurarichardson said:

You are correcr she should not be giving any information at all because she does not know anything.

She knows a lot Laura. She was married to him. You were not.

Reply #258 posted 03/21/17 9:40am

Lovejunky

Menes said:

DD55 said:

"This is not going to go away" What??? Seriously, give it a rest already.

.

Everyone is going on a out ‘lies’, well everyone lies! And I don’t mean that in a negative way. It’s just in life sometimes you gloss over issues and reveal different things to different people at different times. We, the average person, get away with it because it’s usually not in print. For example a causal acquaintance may ask you about where you work, you say XYZ company and it is a good company. Meanwhile you tell your very good friends (who you trust) the truth, that you hate your job and the company is awful. Did you lie, yes but you just don’t give the same level of details to everyone. Plus you don’t know if that causal accquaintance is related to your boss or will go all over town repeating what you said.

.

I would guess that she went along with whatever narrative Prince wanted her to, and over time slowly added details previously unknown, or spoke more candidly thus giving the appearance of the story changing.

.

Then there is the whole issue of context. You can’t take a quote and apply it to any and all situations or events. I think digging up old articles and trying to expose ‘lies' is a waste of time. Most of you have acknowledged that Prince lied often. Just take the book for what it is, enjoy getting to know your beloved Prince a little bit more and call it a day.

.

I’m sure we will see more books written in the future. I would be willing to bet that several of the people you guys have mentioned who knew and worked with Prince are typing away as we speak.

.

I am going to buy the book.

Peace.

If I were to pick two people who I thought would write a book, it would have been Tyka and Kirk. After Mayte's book, a publisher would need to think long and hard about how they would generate revenue from a book about Prince. I dont even think that museum is going to do to well in generating revenue in a few years. The world is moving too fast.

I agree with this to a certain extent...

I think that when Prince Said "y,all aint ready for this"He was being very literal...

His Legacy may lay low for a few years...But I see a day where he will re emerge in full power and claim his rightful position.

Not only as an unparralleled Musical Genius but as a human being who evolved and orbited out of here right before our very eyes !

He could have ruled the World

“LOVE IS THE MASTERPLAN”
Reply #259 posted 03/21/17 9:45am

Lovejunky

PennyPurple said:

precioux said:

Yes, it's pretty silly to think Mayte doesn't "know" she's divorced...

Your thoughts on P's PR/image?

Stating that the marriage was annulled is quite a jab, not only to himself, but also to Mayte, being that an annullment voids the marriage as well as any children born into that marriage.

So, was he tryig to take a jab a Mayte, maybe tried to legally "erase" any evidence of the marriage for his own self preservation...

OR, do you think this annulment tactic was to "wipe the slate clean" in order to marry M2 with no ramifications in the JW religion?

I agree Precioux. Here is what she said in the People Magazine article.

.

It was his request to have the marriage annulled-so they could "continue it in a less traditional fashion"- That proved to be the last straw.

.

He was taking a jab at her, as if the marriage didn't mean anything and was nothing at all.

It is a Jab isnt it,? No matter which way you look at it.

“LOVE IS THE MASTERPLAN”
Reply #260 posted 03/21/17 9:46am

joytotheworld

PennyPurple said:

precioux said:

Yes, it's pretty silly to think Mayte doesn't "know" she's divorced...

Your thoughts on P's PR/image?

Stating that the marriage was annulled is quite a jab, not only to himself, but also to Mayte, being that an annullment voids the marriage as well as any children born into that marriage.

So, was he tryig to take a jab a Mayte, maybe tried to legally "erase" any evidence of the marriage for his own self preservation...

OR, do you think this annulment tactic was to "wipe the slate clean" in order to marry M2 with no ramifications in the JW religion?

I agree Precioux. Here is what she said in the People Magazine article.

.

It was his request to have the marriage annulled-so they could "continue it in a less traditional fashion"- That proved to be the last straw.

.

He was taking a jab at her, as if the marriage didn't mean anything and was nothing at all.

Sounds like cake and eat it too.

Reply #261 posted 03/21/17 9:47am

PennyPurple

Lovejunky said:

PennyPurple said:

I agree Precioux. Here is what she said in the People Magazine article.

.

It was his request to have the marriage annulled-so they could "continue it in a less traditional fashion"- That proved to be the last straw.

.

He was taking a jab at her, as if the marriage didn't mean anything and was nothing at all.

It is a Jab isnt it,? No matter which way you look at it.

I think so Lovejunky. He knew the marriage couldn't be annulled, and it wasn't. Like Mayte said, it was the last straw....when he said that to her.

Reply #262 posted 03/21/17 9:58am

Menes

Lovejunky said:

PennyPurple said:

I agree Precioux. Here is what she said in the People Magazine article.

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It was his request to have the marriage annulled-so they could "continue it in a less traditional fashion"- That proved to be the last straw.

.

He was taking a jab at her, as if the marriage didn't mean anything and was nothing at all.

It is a Jab isnt it,? No matter which way you look at it.

Yes it is. That "jab" wasn't thrown out of thin air. There was a purpose for the jab being thrown. All you have to do is sync up the dates and events to coincide with when the "jab" was thrown. Newton's third law can be interchanged with the laws of karma here.

Reply #263 posted 03/21/17 10:00am

PennyPurple

Menes said:

Lovejunky said:

It is a Jab isnt it,? No matter which way you look at it.

Yes it is. That "jab" wasn't thrown out of thin air. There was a purpose for the jab being thrown. All you have to do is sync up the dates and events to coincide with when the "jab" was thrown. Newton's third law can be interchanged with the laws of karma here.

He was cheating with Mani.

Reply #264 posted 03/21/17 10:06am

XxAxX

PennyPurple said:

 



Lovejunky said:


 



PennyPurple said:


 


I agree Precioux. Here is what she said in the People Magazine article.


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It was his request to have the marriage annulled-so they could "continue it in a less traditional fashion"- That proved to be the last straw.


.


He was taking a jab at her, as if the marriage didn't mean anything and was nothing at all.



 


It is a Jab isnt it,? No matter which way you look at it.


 


 



I think so Lovejunky. He knew the marriage couldn't be annulled, and it wasn't. Like Mayte said, it was the last straw....when he said that to her.


That would have shattered me after all that had happened, especially knowing he was cheating with Mani. Poor Mayte. I always felt she got a raw deal there
Reply #265 posted 03/21/17 10:07am

Menes

PennyPurple said:

Menes said:

Yes it is. That "jab" wasn't thrown out of thin air. There was a purpose for the jab being thrown. All you have to do is sync up the dates and events to coincide with when the "jab" was thrown. Newton's third law can be interchanged with the laws of karma here.

He was cheating with Mani.

I want you to remember you said that this day. You are so easy to walk down. You shall soon see that you are not impartial and react with neurotic ferver based on an impulse because you have done no research concerning the entire story. You stir up shit, you get shit.

Reply #266 posted 03/21/17 10:08am

precioux

Pennypurple,

you asked where it was stated that P burnt the ashes of Ahmir...or was it rumor(?)

It is stated in this interview cited below:




laurarichardson said:

1Sasha said:

Just as an aside: one of the Kennedys had his marriage annulled so he could marry the next wife in the church. This was after many years and children. So it can happen in the Catholic Church, which was not Prince's religion.

With the exception of Kirk, I don't know anyone in Prince's inner circle who might have known "everything." I don't think Mayte knew a lot of what was going on ... Yes, she was young, but Prince was secretive and he compartmentalized the people he came in contact with, plus he had all the money and power. He couldn't have pulled that off with an older woman, but a teenager into her early 20s - very easy to do. Especially if her family was on the gravy train, too (which I don't know about). I am going to read the book, but I don't think it will have much bearing on the 2016 Prince.

__ I think Morris Hayes knows a lot. See the Times article below. So many disturbing things I would not know where to start. The fact that she and her sister were molested explains a lot about her. Also they way I am reading this she seemed to be fine with being in his harem before he married her. Why!!!! I have yet to figure out what he had on these women that they put up with this sister/wife crap. She also said he hynotized her and I think she mean literally. eek . What would make her think he was going to change? Also does she not realize that the other sister/wives are going to come for her since she is shading them in the book.

-------


http://www.thetimes.co.uk...-fbj8k70fw

picture of Prince the day he and Garcia got their dog Mila




We meet on a sunny morning in the San Fernando Valley at her local dog park. These days, as well as working as a belly-dancing instructor, Garcia, 43, is the founder of a small dog-rescue charity. She springs like a particularly limber puppy onto the top of a picnic table and sits down. I climb up too and spend the next two hours wishing I had something to stop my sheet of questions blowing away every time the wind gets up.
Birds are singing loudly. A nearby sign warns “Caution Rattlesnakes”.
Garcia has one lithe dancer’s leg stretched out between us and the other tucked beneath her. Her eyes stare intently from behind thick-framed spectacles and a dense mane of dark hair is pulled back in a loose bun.
She speaks in a soft, sing-song voice punctuated by frequent bouts of giggles, but there is tragedy running through her story.
Covering her left wrist is a huge tattoo of Prince’s symbol interwoven with the first letter of her name, a logo that he wore on the back of his white wedding suit and had monogrammed all over their home – on the china, the curtains, napkins and towels – before he burnt everything that reminded him of her after their marriage failed, including the ashes of their son, Amiir, who died in infancy.
She had the tattoo done two weeks after Prince died. “My mom was like, ‘You should have gone bigger.’ ”




Garcia’s mother, who comes across as a whirlwind of ambition and energy in the book, lives downstairs from her. She’s married to Garcia’s father again – for the third time – in the latest twist in a chaotic relationship, but apparently “they can’t stand each other”.
Home life revolves around Gia, Garcia’s five-year-old adopted daughter, and their animals: a guinea pig, two cats, seven birds and seven dogs. “I could charge you $5 for a petting zoo,” she deadpans.
There’s a blown-up picture on the living-room wall of her with Prince and a clutch of awards in her office, she says, but otherwise little sign of the life she once led.
Two things stand out about how she talks about Prince. For starters, it’s often in the present tense, even though he has been dead almost a year. I’m not sure how conscious she is of it. She cries at night still, weeping partly for her lost soulmate, partly for the two children he gave her who did not survive (a second pregnancy ended in a miscarriage).
The other thing I notice is that she barely refers to him by name at all.
She avoided doing it even as his wife, or when dancing in dozens of music videos, on five world tours and a couple of hundred after-shows. Right from their first meeting, she understood on some level that, “If I would have called him Prince, I would have started screaming and jumping up and down, so I separated the rock star from the man in the hotel room.” She never called him anything.
Garcia was born on a military base in Alabama. Her father was a pilot; her mother a dance teacher. Garcia began dancing at three and was belly-dancing for money at seven, going on to earn a mild dose of fame by dancing with a sword on her head for the same primetime talent show that introduced a five-year-old Tiger Woods to the world.
Around the same time she was abused by a family friend, who would later molest her older sister, Jan. “I think that’s one of the reasons why I stayed a virgin and didn’t date.”
Her parents divorced and her father moved to a new base in Germany. When her mother realised that she had made a mistake, the family flew out to join him. Garcia’s sideline career took off there and she had saved $100,000 by the time she was 16. Belly-dancing continued to dominate her free time when she was not in class, coincidentally attending the same American high school in Wiesbaden where the future Priscilla Presley studied between meeting Elvis and marrying him.
It was her sister who was a real Prince fan, and who persuaded the family to drive across Europe to see him perform in Barcelona in July 1990. But when Garcia saw Prince on stage, everything changed. The power of his performance was like “a marathon jumping into a tornado swallowed by wild horses”, she writes. It wasn’t a crush. “I just remember thinking, ‘I need to meet him, and I need to dance for him.’ ”
skip


In her book, Garcia is discreet about sex. I ask her what was it like to go to bed with the man who sang about 23 positions in a one-night stand?
“Very, very tender,” she says, after a pause. “I can’t say for all the other women. For me, it was always very tender and attentive and sweet. Even though I danced on stage with handcuffs, there was never any of that.”
He did not sing to her in bed, although he did play his song Let’s Have a Baby when they were trying to conceive. He wore eyeliner and women’s cologne, “but it worked. He was very masculine.”
Prince, she says, had two personalities. On one side there was the “insatiable sex thing”. She never saw that Prince. “I saw the boyfriend. Nothing crazy. Loving.

Respectful.” She did not envy the women who catered to his other side. “I was held high on this pedestal, and I liked it.”
The life they had together sometimes felt normal. Prince loved to impersonate people and prank-call local shops or guests at Paisley Park. They would go to the supermarket in the middle of the night and could eat in local restaurants if they had a private room, though mostly they ordered takeaways. Once they became vegans, they found a pair of green-fingered housewives who grew them more vegetables than they knew what to do with. Prince loved sport, particularly basketball, despite his height, and boxing. He had been in fights at school during a difficult upbringing and liked to wrestle with Garcia.
They spent much of their time closed off from the world in Paisley Park, a place that could feel like an out-of-town business park, only with its own sound stage, studios, editing facilities, basketball court, hair salon and a “constant murmur” of doves. They would stay up till the early hours and sleep in the day. A trip to the shops with Prince was always like an episode of Supermarket Sweep, trying to grab anything that appealed before the other customers noticed him.
She learnt early on that nobody challenged Prince. “I would see other people do it, and then they would get cast out. OK, note to myself. Don’t do that. Don’t talk to him this way, because you’re going to get that.”
He once wrote her a letter explaining that, “When I have a disagreement with someone – it’s usually only one. Then they’re gone.” Whereas he didn’t mind fighting “with u because I know we’ll always be 2gether”.
In practice, though, she never stood up to her husband until the very end of their marriage. It’s one of the reasons she enjoyed being hypnotised by him: it was the only time that he would let her talk without interrupting.

Prince and Garcia officially divorced in 2000. “I don’t know how I got past all that,” she says now, narrowing her eyes. Having come into the marriage as an 18-year-old of substantial means, she left with next to nothing. Her mistake was to assume that Prince would be there if she ever needed financial help. Now to realise that he’s gone and he won’t be is “heartbreaking”. She is particularly confused by the absence of a will, “Because when I was married to him, he had one.”
There have been other boyfriends since 2000 – notably Pamela Anderson’s ex-husband Tommy Lee, of the band Mötley Crüe – but none that could take the place of Prince, her first love and the father of her dead son. His own death came as a total shock to Garcia. Because he was “very well guarded” from the public and she was no longer “in the circle”, she didn’t realise the extent to which he had become reliant on powerful opioids to dull the chronic pain caused by his athletic stage performances.

Reply #267 posted 03/21/17 10:09am

PennyPurple

Menes said:

PennyPurple said:

He was cheating with Mani.

I want you to remember you said that this day. You are so easy to walk down. You shall soon see that you are not impartial and react with neurotic ferver based on an impulse because you have done no research concerning the entire story. You stir up shit, you get shit.

Him cheating with Mani IS a fact!!

Reply #268 posted 03/21/17 10:13am

PennyPurple

precioux said:

Pennypurple,

you asked where it was stated that P burnt the ashes of Ahmir...or was it rumor(?)

It is stated in this interview cited below:




laurarichardson said:

__ I think Morris Hayes knows a lot. See the Times article below. So many disturbing things I would not know where to start. The fact that she and her sister were molested explains a lot about her. Also they way I am reading this she seemed to be fine with being in his harem before he married her. Why!!!! I have yet to figure out what he had on these women that they put up with this sister/wife crap. She also said he hynotized her and I think she mean literally. eek . What would make her think he was going to change? Also does she not realize that the other sister/wives are going to come for her since she is shading them in the book.

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http://www.thetimes.co.uk...-fbj8k70fw

picture of Prince the day he and Garcia got their dog Mila




We meet on a sunny morning in the San Fernando Valley at her local dog park. These days, as well as working as a belly-dancing instructor, Garcia, 43, is the founder of a small dog-rescue charity. She springs like a particularly limber puppy onto the top of a picnic table and sits down. I climb up too and spend the next two hours wishing I had something to stop my sheet of questions blowing away every time the wind gets up.
Birds are singing loudly. A nearby sign warns “Caution Rattlesnakes”.
Garcia has one lithe dancer’s leg stretched out between us and the other tucked beneath her. Her eyes stare intently from behind thick-framed spectacles and a dense mane of dark hair is pulled back in a loose bun.
She speaks in a soft, sing-song voice punctuated by frequent bouts of giggles, but there is tragedy running through her story.
Covering her left wrist is a huge tattoo of Prince’s symbol interwoven with the first letter of her name, a logo that he wore on the back of his white wedding suit and had monogrammed all over their home – on the china, the curtains, napkins and towels – before he burnt everything that reminded him of her after their marriage failed, including the ashes of their son, Amiir, who died in infancy.
She had the tattoo done two weeks after Prince died. “My mom was like, ‘You should have gone bigger.’ ”




Garcia’s mother, who comes across as a whirlwind of ambition and energy in the book, lives downstairs from her. She’s married to Garcia’s father again – for the third time – in the latest twist in a chaotic relationship, but apparently “they can’t stand each other”.
Home life revolves around Gia, Garcia’s five-year-old adopted daughter, and their animals: a guinea pig, two cats, seven birds and seven dogs. “I could charge you $5 for a petting zoo,” she deadpans.
There’s a blown-up picture on the living-room wall of her with Prince and a clutch of awards in her office, she says, but otherwise little sign of the life she once led.
Two things stand out about how she talks about Prince. For starters, it’s often in the present tense, even though he has been dead almost a year. I’m not sure how conscious she is of it. She cries at night still, weeping partly for her lost soulmate, partly for the two children he gave her who did not survive (a second pregnancy ended in a miscarriage).
The other thing I notice is that she barely refers to him by name at all.
She avoided doing it even as his wife, or when dancing in dozens of music videos, on five world tours and a couple of hundred after-shows. Right from their first meeting, she understood on some level that, “If I would have called him Prince, I would have started screaming and jumping up and down, so I separated the rock star from the man in the hotel room.” She never called him anything.
Garcia was born on a military base in Alabama. Her father was a pilot; her mother a dance teacher. Garcia began dancing at three and was belly-dancing for money at seven, going on to earn a mild dose of fame by dancing with a sword on her head for the same primetime talent show that introduced a five-year-old Tiger Woods to the world.
Around the same time she was abused by a family friend, who would later molest her older sister, Jan. “I think that’s one of the reasons why I stayed a virgin and didn’t date.”
Her parents divorced and her father moved to a new base in Germany. When her mother realised that she had made a mistake, the family flew out to join him. Garcia’s sideline career took off there and she had saved $100,000 by the time she was 16. Belly-dancing continued to dominate her free time when she was not in class, coincidentally attending the same American high school in Wiesbaden where the future Priscilla Presley studied between meeting Elvis and marrying him.
It was her sister who was a real Prince fan, and who persuaded the family to drive across Europe to see him perform in Barcelona in July 1990. But when Garcia saw Prince on stage, everything changed. The power of his performance was like “a marathon jumping into a tornado swallowed by wild horses”, she writes. It wasn’t a crush. “I just remember thinking, ‘I need to meet him, and I need to dance for him.’ ”
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In her book, Garcia is discreet about sex. I ask her what was it like to go to bed with the man who sang about 23 positions in a one-night stand?
“Very, very tender,” she says, after a pause. “I can’t say for all the other women. For me, it was always very tender and attentive and sweet. Even though I danced on stage with handcuffs, there was never any of that.”
He did not sing to her in bed, although he did play his song Let’s Have a Baby when they were trying to conceive. He wore eyeliner and women’s cologne, “but it worked. He was very masculine.”
Prince, she says, had two personalities. On one side there was the “insatiable sex thing”. She never saw that Prince. “I saw the boyfriend. Nothing crazy. Loving.

Respectful.” She did not envy the women who catered to his other side. “I was held high on this pedestal, and I liked it.”
The life they had together sometimes felt normal. Prince loved to impersonate people and prank-call local shops or guests at Paisley Park. They would go to the supermarket in the middle of the night and could eat in local restaurants if they had a private room, though mostly they ordered takeaways. Once they became vegans, they found a pair of green-fingered housewives who grew them more vegetables than they knew what to do with. Prince loved sport, particularly basketball, despite his height, and boxing. He had been in fights at school during a difficult upbringing and liked to wrestle with Garcia.
They spent much of their time closed off from the world in Paisley Park, a place that could feel like an out-of-town business park, only with its own sound stage, studios, editing facilities, basketball court, hair salon and a “constant murmur” of doves. They would stay up till the early hours and sleep in the day. A trip to the shops with Prince was always like an episode of Supermarket Sweep, trying to grab anything that appealed before the other customers noticed him.
She learnt early on that nobody challenged Prince. “I would see other people do it, and then they would get cast out. OK, note to myself. Don’t do that. Don’t talk to him this way, because you’re going to get that.”
He once wrote her a letter explaining that, “When I have a disagreement with someone – it’s usually only one. Then they’re gone.” Whereas he didn’t mind fighting “with u because I know we’ll always be 2gether”.
In practice, though, she never stood up to her husband until the very end of their marriage. It’s one of the reasons she enjoyed being hypnotised by him: it was the only time that he would let her talk without interrupting.

Prince and Garcia officially divorced in 2000. “I don’t know how I got past all that,” she says now, narrowing her eyes. Having come into the marriage as an 18-year-old of substantial means, she left with next to nothing. Her mistake was to assume that Prince would be there if she ever needed financial help. Now to realise that he’s gone and he won’t be is “heartbreaking”. She is particularly confused by the absence of a will, “Because when I was married to him, he had one.”
There have been other boyfriends since 2000 – notably Pamela Anderson’s ex-husband Tommy Lee, of the band Mötley Crüe – but none that could take the place of Prince, her first love and the father of her dead son. His own death came as a total shock to Garcia. Because he was “very well guarded” from the public and she was no longer “in the circle”, she didn’t realise the extent to which he had become reliant on powerful opioids to dull the chronic pain caused by his athletic stage performances.

Thank you Precioux. People Magazine said something different.

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I believe it is not Mayte that is mixing up the story, but these magazines and newspaper, just wanting to print what ever they want, or what THEY read into it.

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I'll wait for the book to take it all in context.

Reply #269 posted 03/21/17 10:16am

Menes

PennyPurple said:

Menes said:

I want you to remember you said that this day. You are so easy to walk down. You shall soon see that you are not impartial and react with neurotic ferver based on an impulse because you have done no research concerning the entire story. You stir up shit, you get shit.

Him cheating with Mani IS a fact!!

And you think that's the entire story, correct? I am going to slow cook you until you peel in here.

Reply #270 posted 03/21/17 10:25am

PennyPurple

Menes said:

PennyPurple said:

Him cheating with Mani IS a fact!!

And you think that's the entire story, correct? I am going to slow cook you until you peel in here.

I ain't skeered. lol

Reply #271 posted 03/21/17 10:27am

disch

At the time, P tried to couch the "annulment" in spiritual language -- that they remained a couple but no longer believed in legal contracts etc. I don't know why took that apprach (he could've just stayed publicly silent about their whole marriage), but I would imagine he was trying to break up without it looking like a typical "break up." Perhaps Mayte sheds light on her perception of all this in her book.

precioux said:

disch said:

And I'm certain Mayte's well aware that she's divorced and that Prince's "annulment" talk at the time was just his attempt at PR/image management.

Yes, it's pretty silly to think Mayte doesn't "know" she's divorced...

Your thoughts on P's PR/image?

Stating that the marriage was annulled is quite a jab, not only to himself, but also to Mayte, being that an annullment voids the marriage as well as any children born into that marriage.

So, was he tryig to take a jab a Mayte, maybe tried to legally "erase" any evidence of the marriage for his own self preservation...

OR, do you think this annulment tactic was to "wipe the slate clean" in order to marry M2 with no ramifications in the JW religion?

Reply #272 posted 03/21/17 10:28am

Heidi

Yeah ... Mani already gets a "thank you" mention in the liner notes from his album released june '98 (the name escapes me, I'm too lazy to look it up)- and can someone tell me when the announcement of the (planned) annullment took place ?

Reply #273 posted 03/21/17 10:29am

precioux

Menes said:

PennyPurple said:

Him cheating with Mani IS a fact!!

And you think that's the entire story, correct? I am going to slow cook you until you peel in here.

bananadance ....don't waste your time, cupcake blunt

Reply #274 posted 03/21/17 10:44am

Menes

PennyPurple said:

Menes said:

And you think that's the entire story, correct? I am going to slow cook you until you peel in here.

I ain't skeered. lol

You shouldn't be. It's a forum. Balance it out.

Reply #275 posted 03/21/17 11:00am

laurarichardson

PennyPurple said:

 



laurarichardson said:



 



You are correcr she should not be giving any information at all because she does not know anything.

She knows a lot Laura. She was married to him. You were not.


____If she knows something how come she keeps saying she does not know anything. She thinks her marriage was annulled,she is not sure if he took drugs, and she is not sure about what happened to her own son's urn. She is the one with the" I am not sure " I am not putting the words in her mouth.
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Reply #276 posted 03/21/17 11:02am

precioux

Heidi said:

Yeah ... Mani already gets a "thank you" mention in the liner notes from his album released june '98 (the name escapes me, I'm too lazy to look it up)- and can someone tell me when the announcement of the (planned) annullment took place ? 


 





The annulment was announced in December, 1998 with Prince citing that he was "opposed to contracts"...

Then turns around and marries Mani the Mistress in 2001

falloff
Reply #277 posted 03/21/17 11:03am

PennyPurple

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

She knows a lot Laura. She was married to him. You were not.

____If she knows something how come she keeps saying she does not know anything. She thinks her marriage was annulled,she is not sure if he took drugs, and she is not sure about what happened to her own son's urn. She is the one with the" I am nit sure " I am not putting the words in her mouth. ,

? She doesn't think her marriage was annulled.....she said it was never annulled you can't annull a marriage of 4 years & 1 child.

Reply #278 posted 03/21/17 11:14am

benni

laurarichardson said:

1Sasha said:

Just as an aside: one of the Kennedys had his marriage annulled so he could marry the next wife in the church. This was after many years and children. So it can happen in the Catholic Church, which was not Prince's religion.

With the exception of Kirk, I don't know anyone in Prince's inner circle who might have known "everything." I don't think Mayte knew a lot of what was going on ... Yes, she was young, but Prince was secretive and he compartmentalized the people he came in contact with, plus he had all the money and power. He couldn't have pulled that off with an older woman, but a teenager into her early 20s - very easy to do. Especially if her family was on the gravy train, too (which I don't know about). I am going to read the book, but I don't think it will have much bearing on the 2016 Prince.

__ I think Morris Hayes knows a lot. See the Times article below. So many disturbing things I would not know where to start. The fact that she and her sister were molested explains a lot about her. Also they way I am reading this she seemed to be fine with being in his harem before he married her.



And just what does this say about her Laura? I am sure she expected him to remain faithful to her once they got married. Prior to their relationship, prior to her reaching legal age, she probably really didn't think a lot about him dating multiple women. Any woman that gets married expects that man to remain faithful, regardless of how they were prior to the marriage. Otherwise, why get married? But, I am curious, what exactly you think her being molested explains about her.

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Reply #279 posted 03/21/17 11:19am

laurarichardson

PennyPurple said:

 



Lovejunky said:


 



PennyPurple said:


 


I agree Precioux. Here is what she said in the People Magazine article.


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It was his request to have the marriage annulled-so they could "continue it in a less traditional fashion"- That proved to be the last straw.


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He was taking a jab at her, as if the marriage didn't mean anything and was nothing at all.



 


It is a Jab isnt it,? No matter which way you look at it.


 


 



I think so Lovejunky. He knew the marriage couldn't be annulled, and it wasn't. Like Mayte said, it was the last straw....when he said that to her.


--- There wanone last straw M2 was around in 98. He put M1 in Spain left her there ran around with M2 got a divorce by stating that M1 abandenment the marriage. According to Mayte she had no idea he was announcing their annulment and they still saw each other for a while after. In some states all you have to do is place an ad in the paper. I guarantee that somewhere there are records for a divorce or even worst they were not legally married to begin with. He got out of that marriage and all she got was a house so he did some slick move to.not lose his shirt. This guy juggled women the whole of his life he never really stopped and remember he was seeing NonaGaye and Carmenwhile seeing M1. I think Mayte figured out he was running around and went off to see someone else and he started flipping out and burning stuff.
Reply #280 posted 03/21/17 11:21am

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame

laurarichardson said:

--- There wanone last straw M2 was around in 98. He put M1 in Spain left her there ran around with M2 got a divorce by stating that M1 abandenment the marriage. According to Mayte she had no idea he was announcing their annulment and they still saw each other for a while after. In some states all you have to do is place an ad in the paper. I guarantee that somewhere there are records for a divorce or even worst they were not legally married to begin with. He got out of that marriage and all she got was a house so he did some slick move to.not lose his shirt. This guy juggled women the whole of his life he never really stopped and remember he was seeing NonaGaye and Carmenwhile seeing M1. I think Mayte figured out he was running around and went off to see someone else and he started flipping out and burning stuff.

Whaaat?

I am confused.

Put an ad in the paper?

Reply #281 posted 03/21/17 11:21am

PennyPurple

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

I think so Lovejunky. He knew the marriage couldn't be annulled, and it wasn't. Like Mayte said, it was the last straw....when he said that to her.

--- There wanone last straw M2 was around in 98. He put M1 in Spain left her there ran around with M2 got a divorce by stating that M1 abandenment the marriage. According to Mayte she had no idea he was announcing their annulment and they still saw each other for a while after. In some states all you have to do is place an ad in the paper. I guarantee that somewhere there are records for a divorce or even worst they were not legally married to begin with. He got out of that marriage and all she got was a house so he did some slick move to.not lose his shirt. This guy juggled women the whole of his life he never really stopped and remember he was seeing NonaGaye and Carmenwhile seeing M1. I think Mayte figured out he was running around and went off to see someone else and he started flipping out and burning stuff.

Yes, because he wanted his cake and to eat it too.

Reply #282 posted 03/21/17 11:24am

1Sasha

What is that saying - a tiger never changes his stripes? Who knows if he was ever faithful to any woman, be it a wife, girlfriend or protegee? The description of Mayte is similar to women I knew who married in the 50s and 60s: the husband handled the money, everything was in his name, the little lady was in the dark ... In this case, I don't think Mayte had a clue financially how large the empire was and how it operated. Prince ran her life - for God's sake, he (not she) refused medical testing of HER body. I can remember my mother walking into a car dealership in the 70s to order a new car, and the dealer (whom we had used many times before) called my father to tell him what my mother did. My dad told them to order whatever she wanted and to send him the bill. I don't think Prince ever operated like that. He was the boss, privately and professionally.

Reply #283 posted 03/21/17 11:29am

purplerabbithole

A couple thoughts...this is my attempt to be sympathetic to all parties (but using the only text we know --Mayte's words.)

1.) Good for her for getting the D and C..unreasonable of P to want her not to just because his new religion doesn't believe in it.

2.) Mayte's going ahead with the procedure also proves that P's control over people is only there when they allow it. She did it in 1997 and they remained married for a few more years. So, obviously, P wasn't locking her out of the house the second she did it.

3.) Mayte obviously chose not to convert to Jehovah Witness...this is also proof of a blossoming independence and ultimately P's inability to really control the environment around him

4.) Now, here is what I think P might have been thinking (obviously we can't read his mind but I think he deserves an attempt at understanding)

a.) his new found religion is actually an offshoot of his old seven day adventist..not surprising he would go there. IN this religion, they believe in a second resurrection where all the souls (including non-JW's) who perished anytime before the first resurrection will be returned to earth (healthy) and will live forever as long as they embrace God's teaching within a 1000 years ... perfect solution for a deceased son who was deformed and unable to receive religious teaching before he died. This promise is very alluring to someone who experiences loss. But is comes with a heavy price..complete devotion and adherence to a strict eligion. Mayte, rightfully, wasn't willing to do that. Prince desperately thought he needed her to. Since she wouldn't, he purged memories of her and his baby, probably thinking when I see my son again he will be healthy and non-deseased. This is what loss does to people. And unfortunately, Mayte was collatoral damage.

5.) DO we know if Prince was already knocking boots with Manuela by 1998. Does Mayte confirm or deny. Is it possible he and Manuela were emotionally cheating, not physically yet. The assumption that they were already cheating is kind of unfair. the fake annulement might have been a way to allow Prince to get with her in that way (but that came in 1999)

6.) Manuela deserves a voice here as well. Her statements about enablers, Prince's reference to her "smiling at friends when you really hate them, trying to convince me that I should too" in the Love song and her getting along with Mayte later on point to a woman who saw the error of her ways and turned on those she was originally aligned with. She comes off greedy in the divorce papers but she could have been a lot worse. She's been classy since.

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Reply #284 posted 03/21/17 11:32am

sonshine

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

 



laurarichardson said:



 



You are correcr she should not be giving any information at all because she does not know anything.

She knows a lot Laura. She was married to him. You were not.


____If she knows something how come she keeps saying she does not know anything. She thinks her marriage was annulled,she is not sure if he took drugs, and she is not sure about what happened to her own son's urn. She is the one with the" I am not sure " I am not putting the words in her mouth.
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You are so severely misinformed. Listen to the Prince podcast that was posted way back at the beginning of this thread. Lots of these incorrect things you are repeating and that have been wrongly reported in the media for years are set right. There was no annulment. There was never any question in her mind because there was no annullment. Their divorce record is sealed. That's why you can't see it. Your running commentary on prince and mayte makes it crystal clear why he guarded his privacy so ferociously. And an annulment thru the Catholic church is an entirely different thing than a legal/civil annullment. I have first hand knowledge of this.
Pull your cellphone out and call your next of kin, it's about to get funky in here!
Reply #285 posted 03/21/17 11:33am

laurarichardson

PennyPurple said:

 



laurarichardson said:


PennyPurple said:

 


She knows a lot Laura. She was married to him. You were not.



____If she knows something how come she keeps saying she does not know anything. She thinks her marriage was annulled,she is not sure if he took drugs, and she is not sure about what happened to her own son's urn. She is the one with the" I am nit sure " I am not putting the words in her mouth. ,

? She doesn't think her marriage was annulled.....she said it was never annulled you can't annull a marriage of 4 years & 1 child.


She has said in the past that the marriage was annulled now somewhere along the way she wised up. Who does not run out and get a divorce attorney immediately after he made that statement? How do you get divorced and get nothing in America unless you have a prenuptial agreement. Some of you do not want to admit that this chick is not the sharpest knife and she has done nothing but contradict herself




ir marriage was annulled
Reply #286 posted 03/21/17 11:36am

purplerabbithole

Legally, Prince could not make that decision for her. She may not have wanted to disagree with him but still ultimately it is her decision. No doctor is going to force a woman not to get a procedure because her husband says so. Mom could have stepped in here as well.

1Sasha said:

What is that saying - a tiger never changes his stripes? Who knows if he was ever faithful to any woman, be it a wife, girlfriend or protegee? The description of Mayte is similar to women I knew who married in the 50s and 60s: the husband handled the money, everything was in his name, the little lady was in the dark ... In this case, I don't think Mayte had a clue financially how large the empire was and how it operated. Prince ran her life - for God's sake, he (not she) refused medical testing of HER body. I can remember my mother walking into a car dealership in the 70s to order a new car, and the dealer (whom we had used many times before) called my father to tell him what my mother did. My dad told them to order whatever she wanted and to send him the bill. I don't think Prince ever operated like that. He was the boss, privately and professionally.

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Reply #287 posted 03/21/17 11:38am

benni

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

? She doesn't think her marriage was annulled.....she said it was never annulled you can't annull a marriage of 4 years & 1 child.

She has said in the past that the marriage was annulled now somewhere along the way she wised up. Who does not run out and get a divorce attorney immediately after he made that statement? How do you get divorced and get nothing in America unless you have a prenuptial agreement. Some of you do not want to admit that this chick is not the sharpest knife and she has done nothing but contradict herself ir marriage was annulled


I've been divorced twice, and got essentially nothing from both divorces. It happens. No pre-nups. Sorry, but you really don't know what you are talking about.

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Reply #288 posted 03/21/17 11:39am

sonshine

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

 



laurarichardson said:


PennyPurple said:

 


She knows a lot Laura. She was married to him. You were not.



____If she knows something how come she keeps saying she does not know anything. She thinks her marriage was annulled,she is not sure if he took drugs, and she is not sure about what happened to her own son's urn. She is the one with the" I am nit sure " I am not putting the words in her mouth. ,

? She doesn't think her marriage was annulled.....she said it was never annulled you can't annull a marriage of 4 years & 1 child.


She has said in the past that the marriage was annulled now somewhere along the way she wised up. Who does not run out and get a divorce attorney immediately after he made that statement? How do you get divorced and get nothing in America unless you have a prenuptial agreement. Some of you do not want to admit that this chick is not the sharpest knife and she has done nothing but contradict herself
When has she said this? Did you hear her say this? Did she say this directly to you?
You would be the first in line e to crucify her for taking anything from him in the divorce, and your are xrucifying her for not taking anything? How do you keep all your propaganda straight? It's got to be a fulltime job. Yet you still aren't doing it well.




ir marriage was annulled
Pull your cellphone out and call your next of kin, it's about to get funky in here!
Reply #289 posted 03/21/17 11:41am

DD55

1Sasha said:

What is that saying - a tiger never changes his stripes? Who knows if he was ever faithful to any woman, be it a wife, girlfriend or protegee? The description of Mayte is similar to women I knew who married in the 50s and 60s: the husband handled the money, everything was in his name, the little lady was in the dark ... In this case, I don't think Mayte had a clue financially how large the empire was and how it operated. Prince ran her life - for God's sake, he (not she) refused medical testing of HER body. I can remember my mother walking into a car dealership in the 70s to order a new car, and the dealer (whom we had used many times before) called my father to tell him what my mother did. My dad told them to order whatever she wanted and to send him the bill. I don't think Prince ever operated like that. He was the boss, privately and professionally.

I wonder if she signed joint federal and state tax returns, or married filing separately. He could have just shown her the last page and said sign here, or he could have at one point gotten power of attorney and just signed documents for her. Just wondering!!!! Since it’s tax time and of course there is all the talk of someone elses taxes. Those of you who read the book, did she address / discuss that point?

Reply #290 posted 03/21/17 11:42am

sonshine

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

 



laurarichardson said:


PennyPurple said:

 


She knows a lot Laura. She was married to him. You were not.



____If she knows something how come she keeps saying she does not know anything. She thinks her marriage was annulled,she is not sure if he took drugs, and she is not sure about what happened to her own son's urn. She is the one with the" I am nit sure " I am not putting the words in her mouth. ,

? She doesn't think her marriage was annulled.....she said it was never annulled you can't annull a marriage of 4 years & 1 child.


She has said in the past that the marriage was annulled now somewhere along the way she wised up. Who does not run out and get a divorce attorney immediately after he made that statement? How do you get divorced and get nothing in America unless you have a prenuptial agreement. Some of you do not want to admit that this chick is not the sharpest knife and she has done nothing but contradict herselfr marriage was annulled

Damn my post is messed up! I said:
When has she said this? Did you hear her say this? Did she say this directly to you?
You would be the first in line e to crucify her for taking anything from him in the divorce, and your are xrucifying her for not taking anything? How do you keep all your propaganda straight? It's got to be a fulltime job. Yet you still aren't doing it well.
Pull your cellphone out and call your next of kin, it's about to get funky in here!
Reply #291 posted 03/21/17 11:43am

BillieBalloon

PennyPurple said:

 



precioux said:


Pennypurple,


  you asked where it was stated that P burnt the ashes of Ahmir...or was it rumor(?)


It is stated in this interview cited below:







laurarichardson said:


 


__ I think Morris Hayes knows a lot. See the Times article below. So many disturbing things I would not know where to start. The fact that she and her sister were molested explains a lot about her. Also they way I am reading this she seemed to be fine with being in his harem before he married her. Why!!!! I have yet to figure out what he had on these women that they put up with this sister/wife crap. She also said he hynotized her and I think she mean literally. eek . What would make her think he was going to change? Also does she not realize that the other sister/wives are going to come for her since she is shading them in the book.


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http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/th...d-me-fbj8k70fw

picture of Prince the day he and Garcia got their dog Mila




We meet on a sunny morning in the San Fernando Valley at her local dog park. These days, as well as working as a belly-dancing instructor, Garcia, 43, is the founder of a small dog-rescue charity. She springs like a particularly limber puppy onto the top of a picnic table and sits down. I climb up too and spend the next two hours wishing I had something to stop my sheet of questions blowing away every time the wind gets up.
Birds are singing loudly. A nearby sign warns “Caution Rattlesnakes”.
Garcia has one lithe dancer’s leg stretched out between us and the other tucked beneath her. Her eyes stare intently from behind thick-framed spectacles and a dense mane of dark hair is pulled back in a loose bun.
She speaks in a soft, sing-song voice punctuated by frequent bouts of giggles, but there is tragedy running through her story.
Covering her left wrist is a huge tattoo of Prince’s symbol interwoven with the first letter of her name, a logo that he wore on the back of his white wedding suit and had monogrammed all over their home – on the china, the curtains, napkins and towels – before he burnt everything that reminded him of her after their marriage failed, including the ashes of their son, Amiir, who died in infancy.
She had the tattoo done two weeks after Prince died. “My mom was like, ‘You should have gone bigger.’ ”




Garcia’s mother, who comes across as a whirlwind of ambition and energy in the book, lives downstairs from her. She’s married to Garcia’s father again – for the third time – in the latest twist in a chaotic relationship, but apparently “they can’t stand each other”.
Home life revolves around Gia, Garcia’s five-year-old adopted daughter, and their animals: a guinea pig, two cats, seven birds and seven dogs. “I could charge you $5 for a petting zoo,” she deadpans.
There’s a blown-up picture on the living-room wall of her with Prince and a clutch of awards in her office, she says, but otherwise little sign of the life she once led.
Two things stand out about how she talks about Prince. For starters, it’s often in the present tense, even though he has been dead almost a year. I’m not sure how conscious she is of it. She cries at night still, weeping partly for her lost soulmate, partly for the two children he gave her who did not survive (a second pregnancy ended in a miscarriage).
The other thing I notice is that she barely refers to him by name at all.
She avoided doing it even as his wife, or when dancing in dozens of music videos, on five world tours and a couple of hundred after-shows. Right from their first meeting, she understood on some level that, “If I would have called him Prince, I would have started screaming and jumping up and down, so I separated the rock star from the man in the hotel room.” She never called him anything.
Garcia was born on a military base in Alabama. Her father was a pilot; her mother a dance teacher. Garcia began dancing at three and was belly-dancing for money at seven, going on to earn a mild dose of fame by dancing with a sword on her head for the same primetime talent show that introduced a five-year-old Tiger Woods to the world.
Around the same time she was abused by a family friend, who would later molest her older sister, Jan. “I think that’s one of the reasons why I stayed a virgin and didn’t date.”
Her parents divorced and her father moved to a new base in Germany. When her mother realised that she had made a mistake, the family flew out to join him. Garcia’s sideline career took off there and she had saved $100,000 by the time she was 16. Belly-dancing continued to dominate her free time when she was not in class, coincidentally attending the same American high school in Wiesbaden where the future Priscilla Presley studied between meeting Elvis and marrying him.
It was her sister who was a real Prince fan, and who persuaded the family to drive across Europe to see him perform in Barcelona in July 1990. But when Garcia saw Prince on stage, everything changed. The power of his performance was like “a marathon jumping into a tornado swallowed by wild horses”, she writes. It wasn’t a crush. “I just remember thinking, ‘I need to meet him, and I need to dance for him.’ ”
skip


In her book, Garcia is discreet about sex. I ask her what was it like to go to bed with the man who sang about 23 positions in a one-night stand?
“Very, very tender,” she says, after a pause. “I can’t say for all the other women. For me, it was always very tender and attentive and sweet. Even though I danced on stage with handcuffs, there was never any of that.”
He did not sing to her in bed, although he did play his song Let’s Have a Baby when they were trying to conceive. He wore eyeliner and women’s cologne, “but it worked. He was very masculine.”
Prince, she says, had two personalities. On one side there was the “insatiable sex thing”. She never saw that Prince. “I saw the boyfriend. Nothing crazy. Loving.

Respectful.” She did not envy the women who catered to his other side. “I was held high on this pedestal, and I liked it.”
The life they had together sometimes felt normal. Prince loved to impersonate people and prank-call local shops or guests at Paisley Park. They would go to the supermarket in the middle of the night and could eat in local restaurants if they had a private room, though mostly they ordered takeaways. Once they became vegans, they found a pair of green-fingered housewives who grew them more vegetables than they knew what to do with. Prince loved sport, particularly basketball, despite his height, and boxing. He had been in fights at school during a difficult upbringing and liked to wrestle with Garcia.
They spent much of their time closed off from the world in Paisley Park, a place that could feel like an out-of-town business park, only with its own sound stage, studios, editing facilities, basketball court, hair salon and a “constant murmur” of doves. They would stay up till the early hours and sleep in the day. A trip to the shops with Prince was always like an episode of Supermarket Sweep, trying to grab anything that appealed before the other customers noticed him.
She learnt early on that nobody challenged Prince. “I would see other people do it, and then they would get cast out. OK, note to myself. Don’t do that. Don’t talk to him this way, because you’re going to get that.”
He once wrote her a letter explaining that, “When I have a disagreement with someone – it’s usually only one. Then they’re gone.” Whereas he didn’t mind fighting “with u because I know we’ll always be 2gether”.
In practice, though, she never stood up to her husband until the very end of their marriage. It’s one of the reasons she enjoyed being hypnotised by him: it was the only time that he would let her talk without interrupting.

Prince and Garcia officially divorced in 2000. “I don’t know how I got past all that,” she says now, narrowing her eyes. Having come into the marriage as an 18-year-old of substantial means, she left with next to nothing. Her mistake was to assume that Prince would be there if she ever needed financial help. Now to realise that he’s gone and he won’t be is “heartbreaking”. She is particularly confused by the absence of a will, “Because when I was married to him, he had one.”
There have been other boyfriends since 2000 – notably Pamela Anderson’s ex-husband Tommy Lee, of the band Mötley Crüe – but none that could take the place of Prince, her first love and the father of her dead son. His own death came as a total shock to Garcia. Because he was “very well guarded” from the public and she was no longer “in the circle”, she didn’t realise the extent to which he had become reliant on powerful opioids to dull the chronic pain caused by his athletic stage performances.



 



Thank you Precioux. People Magazine said something different.


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I believe it is not Mayte that is mixing up the story, but these magazines and newspaper, just wanting to print what ever they want, or what THEY read into it.


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I'll wait for the book to take it all in context.




People magazine say the same thing the article above says:
Look Pennypurple:
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/people.com/music/prince-mayte-garcia-would-have-stayed-together-son-amiir-death/amp/
Baby, you're a star.

Meet me in another world, space and joy
Reply #292 posted 03/21/17 11:43am

purplerabbithole

It doesn't sound like she tried very hard to get more. Other wise, there would have been a long drug out drama over money etc. Either Prince had something on Mayte or Mayte just didn't want to be petty or both.

benni said:

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said: She has said in the past that the marriage was annulled now somewhere along the way she wised up. Who does not run out and get a divorce attorney immediately after he made that statement? How do you get divorced and get nothing in America unless you have a prenuptial agreement. Some of you do not want to admit that this chick is not the sharpest knife and she has done nothing but contradict herself ir marriage was annulled


I've been divorced twice, and got essentially nothing from both divorces. It happens. No pre-nups. Sorry, but you really don't know what you are talking about.

Reply #293 posted 03/21/17 11:50am

benni

purplerabbithole said:

It doesn't sound like she tried very hard to get more. Other wise, there would have been a long drug out drama over money etc. Either Prince had something on Mayte or Mayte just didn't want to be petty or both.

benni said:


I've been divorced twice, and got essentially nothing from both divorces. It happens. No pre-nups. Sorry, but you really don't know what you are talking about.


No, it doesn't sound like she tried very hard. I know I didn't. By the time we decided to divorce, I just wanted out of the marriage with whatever possessions I had when I entered the marriage. I never tried to get anything from either husband, because it was never about what they had to me, I loved them for the men they were, not the money they had. And for those that are saying her publishing this book now is just a money grab. Have they really thought about that? If Mayte had wanted to get money off of Prince, she had the perfect opportunity when they divorced. She'd lost a baby, miscarried another, he earned the majority of the monies coming into the marriage and since Mayte had gotten used to a certain lifestyle, she could have demanded alimony and a large settlement, and would have won. But she didn't do that. She didn't ask for anything. That says more to me about who she is, and how she didn't take advantage of Prince to get money through the divorce, than anything else.

Still #FeelingRejuvenated #FeelingInspired #FeelingLoved and #StillMissingPrince -- https://www.gofundme.com/...aSurvivors
Reply #294 posted 03/21/17 11:54am

sonshine

benni said:

 



purplerabbithole said:


It doesn't sound like she tried very hard to get more.  Other wise, there would have been a long drug out drama over money etc.  Either Prince had something on Mayte or Mayte just didn't want to be petty or both.


 


 



benni said:


 



I've been divorced twice, and got essentially nothing from both divorces.  It happens.  No pre-nups.  Sorry, but you really don't know what you are talking about. 



 




No, it doesn't sound like she tried very hard.  I know I didn't.  By the time we decided to divorce, I just wanted out of the marriage with whatever possessions I had when I entered the marriage.  I never tried to get anything from either husband, because it was never about what they had to me, I loved them for the men they were, not the money they had.  And for those that are saying her publishing this book now is just a money grab.  Have they really thought about that?  If Mayte had wanted to get money off of Prince, she had the perfect opportunity when they divorced.  She'd lost a baby, miscarried another, he earned the majority of the monies coming into the marriage and since Mayte had gotten used to a certain lifestyle, she could have demanded alimony and a large settlement, and would have won.  But she didn't do that.  She didn't ask for anything.  That says more to me about who she is, and how she didn't take advantage of Prince to get money through the divorce, than anything else.


+1
Pull your cellphone out and call your next of kin, it's about to get funky in here!
Reply #295 posted 03/21/17 11:58am

PennyPurple

BillieBalloon said:

PennyPurple said:

Thank you Precioux. People Magazine said something different.

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I believe it is not Mayte that is mixing up the story, but these magazines and newspaper, just wanting to print what ever they want, or what THEY read into it.

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I'll wait for the book to take it all in context.

People magazine say the same thing the article above says: Look Pennypurple: https://www.google.co.uk/...death/amp/

eek The People Magazine that I'm holding a hard copy of, doesn't say that. It says. After their divorce in 2000, Garcia was told, Prince had his assistant burn everything that reminded him of Garcia or the baby.

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That was word for word in the People Magazine printed copy.

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So see even People Magazine is reporting something different online and in print about the same story.

[Edited 3/21/17 11:58am]

Reply #296 posted 03/21/17 11:58am

laurarichardson

sonshine said:

laurarichardson said:


____If she knows something how come she keeps saying she does not know anything. She thinks her marriage was annulled,she is not sure if he took drugs, and she is not sure about what happened to her own son's urn. She is the one with the" I am not sure " I am not putting the words in her mouth.
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[Edited 3/21/17 11:21am]

You are so severely misinformed. Listen to the Prince podcast that was posted way back at the beginning of this thread. Lots of these incorrect things you are repeating and that have been wrongly reported in the media for years are set right. There was no annulment. There was never any question in her mind because there was no annullment. Their divorce record is sealed. That's why you can't see it. Your running commentary on prince and mayte makes it crystal clear why he guarded his privacy so ferociously. And an annulment thru the Catholic church is an entirely different thing than a legal/civil annullment. I have first hand knowledge of this.

I am not misinformed I know what she said in the past. Everybody else knew was divorced so why repeat that crap in the first place she made herself look crazy. Please stop listening to Dave he is that close to getting the cops called him for harrasing people for writing their own opinion on their Facebook page. Why do you think he went on the podcast.
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Reply #297 posted 03/21/17 11:59am

purplerabbithole

There were rumors I believe that she cheated too around that time. But you know, I don't blame her. He wasn't around and he was spending time with someone else (sexual or not, he was confiding in another woman.) The annulment talk and the 'non-traditional relationship' part might have been his way to start over in good stead with the JW's and eventually end the marriage...Was it a jab? Maybe, but who knows. Prince is a tough nut to crack sometimes. HE certainly should have opened up to Mayte more about what he was thinking -- it sounds.

benni said:

purplerabbithole said:

It doesn't sound like she tried very hard to get more. Other wise, there would have been a long drug out drama over money etc. Either Prince had something on Mayte or Mayte just didn't want to be petty or both.


No, it doesn't sound like she tried very hard. I know I didn't. By the time we decided to divorce, I just wanted out of the marriage with whatever possessions I had when I entered the marriage. I never tried to get anything from either husband, because it was never about what they had to me, I loved them for the men they were, not the money they had. And for those that are saying her publishing this book now is just a money grab. Have they really thought about that? If Mayte had wanted to get money off of Prince, she had the perfect opportunity when they divorced. She'd lost a baby, miscarried another, he earned the majority of the monies coming into the marriage and since Mayte had gotten used to a certain lifestyle, she could have demanded alimony and a large settlement, and would have won. But she didn't do that. She didn't ask for anything. That says more to me about who she is, and how she didn't take advantage of Prince to get money through the divorce, than anything else.

Reply #298 posted 03/21/17 12:02pm

precioux

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

laurarichardson said:

--- There wanone last straw M2 was around in 98. He put M1 in Spain left her there ran around with M2 got a divorce by stating that M1 abandenment the marriage. According to Mayte she had no idea he was announcing their annulment and they still saw each other for a while after. In some states all you have to do is place an ad in the paper. I guarantee that somewhere there are records for a divorce or even worst they were not legally married to begin with. He got out of that marriage and all she got was a house so he did some slick move to.not lose his shirt. This guy juggled women the whole of his life he never really stopped and remember he was seeing NonaGaye and Carmenwhile seeing M1. I think Mayte figured out he was running around and went off to see someone else and he started flipping out and burning stuff.

Whaaat?

I am confused.

Put an ad in the paper?



I'm pretty sure what laurar meant was that in some states, you can put an ad in the paper if you are unable to locate someone and see if the person resopnds to contest the divorce...



We need a dictionary to translate Laura/English batting eyes

Reply #299 posted 03/21/17 12:02pm

NotACleverName

No annulment. For the umpteenth time.....

Mayte's own words (article from 2013)..... "Mayte refutes an internet article stating that the marriage was annulled. “No! We did not annul the marriage,” she says emphatically, “You can’t annul after four years of marriage and a child. You can’t.” 

Entire interview can be found here: http://www.genlux.com/mayte-garcia/
"Go placidly amid the noise and the haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence......." ~ DESIDERATA ~ Max Ehrmann
Reply #300 posted 03/21/17 12:03pm

sonshine

laurarichardson said:

sonshine said:


You are so severely misinformed. Listen to the Prince podcast that was posted way back at the beginning of this thread. Lots of these incorrect things you are repeating and that have been wrongly reported in the media for years are set right. There was no annulment. There was never any question in her mind because there was no annullment. Their divorce record is sealed. That's why you can't see it. Your running commentary on prince and mayte makes it crystal clear why he guarded his privacy so ferociously. And an annulment thru the Catholic church is an entirely different thing than a legal/civil annullment. I have first hand knowledge of this.

I am not misinformed I know what she said in the past. Everybody else knew was divorced so why repeat that crap in tube first place she made herself look crazy. Please stop listening to Dave he is that close to getting the cops called him for harrasing people for writing their own opinion on their Facebook page. Why do you think he went on the podcast.

Again I'm asking you where did she say this? When? Were you there? Did she say this to you? No? Then you are the one who looks crazy here for making stuff up.
Pull your cellphone out and call your next of kin, it's about to get funky in here!
Reply #301 posted 03/21/17 12:03pm

purplethunder3121

neutral

Now that I'm free I let the wind blow me...
Reply #302 posted 03/21/17 12:06pm

benni

laurarichardson said:

sonshine said:
You are so severely misinformed. Listen to the Prince podcast that was posted way back at the beginning of this thread. Lots of these incorrect things you are repeating and that have been wrongly reported in the media for years are set right. There was no annulment. There was never any question in her mind because there was no annullment. Their divorce record is sealed. That's why you can't see it. Your running commentary on prince and mayte makes it crystal clear why he guarded his privacy so ferociously. And an annulment thru the Catholic church is an entirely different thing than a legal/civil annullment. I have first hand knowledge of this.
I am not misinformed I know what she said in the past. Everybody else knew was divorced so why repeat that crap in tube first place she made herself look crazy. Please stop listening to Dave he is that close to getting the cops called him for harrasing people for writing their own opinion on their Facebook page. Why do you think he went on the podcast.


If Apples has him blocked from her FB page, how can he be harrassing her? Also, please provide screen shots of his harrassment on FB. Otherwise, it's he said/she said, and you are just choosing which side of the story to relay or which side you CHOOSE to believe.

[Edited 3/21/17 12:07pm]

Still #FeelingRejuvenated #FeelingInspired #FeelingLoved and #StillMissingPrince -- https://www.gofundme.com/...aSurvivors
Reply #303 posted 03/21/17 12:09pm

sonshine

benni said:

 



laurarichardson said:


sonshine said:
You are so severely misinformed. Listen to the Prince podcast that was posted way back at the beginning of this thread. Lots of these incorrect things you are repeating and that have been wrongly reported in the media for years are set right. There was no annulment. There was never any question in her mind because there was no annullment. Their divorce record is sealed. That's why you can't see it. Your running commentary on prince and mayte makes it crystal clear why he guarded his privacy so ferociously. And an annulment thru the Catholic church is an entirely different thing than a legal/civil annullment. I have first hand knowledge of this.

I am not misinformed I know what she said in the past. Everybody else knew was divorced so why repeat that crap in tube first place she made herself look crazy. Please stop listening to Dave he is that close to getting the cops called him for harrasing people for writing their own opinion on their Facebook page. Why do you think he went on the podcast.


If Apples has him blocked from her FB page, how can he be harrassing her?  Also, please provide screen shots of his harrassment on FB. Otherwise, it's he said/she said, and you are just choosing which side of the story to relay or which side you CHOOSE to believe.  

[Edited 3/21/17 12:07pm]


Exactly! Besides Apples gives off a strong vibe of bat-shit crazy. Who could take her seriously anyway?
Pull your cellphone out and call your next of kin, it's about to get funky in here!
Reply #304 posted 03/21/17 12:19pm

laurarichardson

sonshine said:

laurarichardson said:


I am not misinformed I know what she said in the past. Everybody else knew was divorced so why repeat that crap in tube first place she made herself look crazy. Please stop listening to Dave he is that close to getting the cops called him for harrasing people for writing their own opinion on their Facebook page. Why do you think he went on the podcast.

Again I'm asking you where did she say this? When? Were you there? Did she say this to you? No? Then you are the one who looks crazy here for making stuff up.
.
I just found many articles that were published were she did not correct anything about the annulment for the longest time and she was still seeing him after he said it. What type of crazy person stands up and there and goes along with this in the first place.
Reply #305 posted 03/21/17 12:21pm

PennyPurple

laurarichardson said:

sonshine said:
Again I'm asking you where did she say this? When? Were you there? Did she say this to you? No? Then you are the one who looks crazy here for making stuff up.
. I just found many articles that were published were she did not correct anything about the annulment for the longest time and she was still seeing him after he said it. What type of crazy person stands up and there and goes along with this in the first place.

What type of crazy person would suggest it to her?

Reply #306 posted 03/21/17 12:25pm

NotACleverName

PennyPurple said:

 



laurarichardson said:


sonshine said:
Again I'm asking you where did she say this? When? Were you there? Did she say this to you? No? Then you are the one who looks crazy here for making stuff up.

. I just found many articles that were published were she did not correct anything about the annulment for the longest time and she was still seeing him after he said it. What type of crazy person stands up and there and goes along with this in the first place.

What type of crazy person would suggest it to her?


Where's the high five emoticon? Guess this will do... clapping
"Go placidly amid the noise and the haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence......." ~ DESIDERATA ~ Max Ehrmann
Reply #307 posted 03/21/17 12:28pm

laurarichardson

sonshine said:

benni said:

 



laurarichardson said:


sonshine said:
You are so severely misinformed. Listen to the Prince podcast that was posted way back at the beginning of this thread. Lots of these incorrect things you are repeating and that have been wrongly reported in the media for years are set right. There was no annulment. There was never any question in her mind because there was no annullment. Their divorce record is sealed. That's why you can't see it. Your running commentary on prince and mayte makes it crystal clear why he guarded his privacy so ferociously. And an annulment thru the Catholic church is an entirely different thing than a legal/civil annullment. I have first hand knowledge of this.

I am not misinformed I know what she said in the past. Everybody else knew was divorced so why repeat that crap in tube first place she made herself look crazy. Please stop listening to Dave he is that close to getting the cops called him for harrasing people for writing their own opinion on their Facebook page. Why do you think he went on the podcast.


If Apples has him blocked from her FB page, how can he be harrassing her?  Also, please provide screen shots of his harrassment on FB. Otherwise, it's he said/she said, and you are just choosing which side of the story to relay or which side you CHOOSE to believe.  

[Edited 3/21/17 12:07pm]


Exactly! Besides Apples gives off a strong vibe of bat-shit crazy. Who could take her seriously anyway?

People took screenshots of his harassing comments before she blocked him. Why do you think he made mention of it on the .poodcast. If she is crazy she still has right to say what she wants on her Facebook page. You know people are keeping the screenshots. You know he also sent out fake desist and cease letters concerning the bootleg copy after saying it did not exist and someone was making it up. Despite everything being in the people mag
Reply #308 posted 03/21/17 12:31pm

laurarichardson

PennyPurple said:

 



laurarichardson said:


sonshine said:
Again I'm asking you where did she say this? When? Were you there? Did she say this to you? No? Then you are the one who looks crazy here for making stuff up.

. I just found many articles that were published were she did not correct anything about the annulment for the longest time and she was still seeing him after he said it. What type of crazy person stands up and there and goes along with this in the first place.

What type of crazy person would suggest it to her?


-- The crazy guy that got out of two marriages without losing a bunch of cash.
Reply #309 posted 03/21/17 12:46pm

annalizer

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

 



laurarichardson said:


sonshine said:
Again I'm asking you where did she say this? When? Were you there? Did she say this to you? No? Then you are the one who looks crazy here for making stuff up.

. I just found many articles that were published were she did not correct anything about the annulment for the longest time and she was still seeing him after he said it. What type of crazy person stands up and there and goes along with this in the first place.

What type of crazy person would suggest it to her?


-- The crazy guy that got out of two marriages without losing a bunch of cash.


Oh Lort! Y'all made my mascara burn! 😂
Reply #310 posted 03/21/17 12:53pm

meltedman

laurarichardson said:

sonshine said:
Exactly! Besides Apples gives off a strong vibe of bat-shit crazy. Who could take her seriously anyway?
People took screenshots of his harassing comments before she blocked him. Why do you think he made mention of it on the .poodcast. If she is crazy she still has right to say what she wants on her Facebook page. You know people are keeping the screenshots. You know he also sent out fake desist and cease letters concerning the bootleg copy after saying it did not exist and someone was making it up. Despite everything being in the people mag

Laura...havent you had enough of the lies and fantasy you create? SHOW ME THE SCREENSHOTS because I have one that says otherwise....show me screenshots where I have harassed anyone?

Enough of your lies.....take a trip out of that fantasy world you live in and come back to reality....EVERYTHING YOU SAY IS UNEDUCATED GUESSES AND LIES...just want to make that straight to anyone reading this drivel she posts.

How are you connected to Prince or anybody in his world that you would know anything about this man other than the lyrics to his songs? Come on....let us know why people should take your word as truth....back up ya bullshit or step off.....sick of you and those like you already spreading lies and bullshit around like its truth when none of yall have any connection to Prince and his world whatsoever.

If you want to post opinion about things you like or dislike about Mayte's book or anything else...negative or positive...then so be it. Free speech allows that and I would respect you more for an opinion...not spreading lies as if they are truth when you have absolutely no way to verify the crap that flows from your keyboard.

Ok, had to get this off my chest.....enough of this FANATIC already.

[Edited 3/21/17 13:05pm]

Reply #311 posted 03/21/17 12:55pm

BillieBalloon

sonshine said:

laurarichardson said:


____If she knows something how come she keeps saying she does not know anything. She thinks her marriage was annulled,she is not sure if he took drugs, and she is not sure about what happened to her own son's urn. She is the one with the" I am not sure " I am not putting the words in her mouth.
,
[Edited 3/21/17 11:20am]
[Edited 3/21/17 11:21am]

You are so severely misinformed. Listen to the Prince podcast that was posted way back at the beginning of this thread. Lots of these incorrect things you are repeating and that have been wrongly reported in the media for years are set right. There was no annulment. There was never any question in her mind because there was no annullment. Their divorce record is sealed. That's why you can't see it. Your running commentary on prince and mayte makes it crystal clear why he guarded his privacy so ferociously. And an annulment thru the Catholic church is an entirely different thing than a legal/civil annullment. I have first hand knowledge of this.



Do you believe Mayte never had an NDA? A l8nk has been posted from an interview where she states she cant say much because of a confidentiality agreement. Its straight from the horses mouth.


As for the annullment, why would Prince say the marriage was annulled if it wasnt?

The marriage was annulled but on what grounds we dont know. Yes, she denies it but Prince says it happened. You choose to believe Mayte over Prince, go ahead. Lets see what the book says.
Baby, you're a star.

Meet me in another world, space and joy
Reply #312 posted 03/21/17 12:58pm

PennyPurple

BillieBalloon said:

sonshine said:
You are so severely misinformed. Listen to the Prince podcast that was posted way back at the beginning of this thread. Lots of these incorrect things you are repeating and that have been wrongly reported in the media for years are set right. There was no annulment. There was never any question in her mind because there was no annullment. Their divorce record is sealed. That's why you can't see it. Your running commentary on prince and mayte makes it crystal clear why he guarded his privacy so ferociously. And an annulment thru the Catholic church is an entirely different thing than a legal/civil annullment. I have first hand knowledge of this.
Do you believe Mayte never had an NDA? A l8nk has been posted from an interview where she states she cant say much because of a confidentiality agreement. Its straight from the horses mouth. As for the annullment, why would Prince say the marriage was annulled if it wasnt? The marriage was annulled but on what grounds we dont know. Yes, she denies it but Prince says it happened. You choose to believe Mayte over Prince, go ahead. Lets see what the book says.

Show where the marriage was annulled. Please produce the document.

Reply #313 posted 03/21/17 12:58pm

BillieBalloon

sonshine said:

benni said:

 



laurarichardson said:


sonshine said:
You are so severely misinformed. Listen to the Prince podcast that was posted way back at the beginning of this thread. Lots of these incorrect things you are repeating and that have been wrongly reported in the media for years are set right. There was no annulment. There was never any question in her mind because there was no annullment. Their divorce record is sealed. That's why you can't see it. Your running commentary on prince and mayte makes it crystal clear why he guarded his privacy so ferociously. And an annulment thru the Catholic church is an entirely different thing than a legal/civil annullment. I have first hand knowledge of this.

I am not misinformed I know what she said in the past. Everybody else knew was divorced so why repeat that crap in tube first place she made herself look crazy. Please stop listening to Dave he is that close to getting the cops called him for harrasing people for writing their own opinion on their Facebook page. Why do you think he went on the podcast.


If Apples has him blocked from her FB page, how can he be harrassing her?  Also, please provide screen shots of his harrassment on FB. Otherwise, it's he said/she said, and you are just choosing which side of the story to relay or which side you CHOOSE to believe.  

[Edited 3/21/17 12:07pm]


Exactly! Besides Apples gives off a strong vibe of bat-shit crazy. Who could take her seriously anyway?



Really? So shes lying? Is Dave a friend of yours?
Baby, you're a star.

Meet me in another world, space and joy
Reply #314 posted 03/21/17 1:04pm

meltedman

BillieBalloon said:

sonshine said:
Exactly! Besides Apples gives off a strong vibe of bat-shit crazy. Who could take her seriously anyway?
Really? So shes lying? Is Dave a friend of yours?

THIS IS DAVE, and yes she is lying big time.....where are these screen shots of me threatening her? Oh yeah, THEY DON'T EXIST because I never threatened her.

Reply #315 posted 03/21/17 1:11pm

purplerabbithole

When she said it was a divorce in 2013, did he deny that?

I am not sure Prince can be taken on faith in 1998. He was a bit of a mess.

BillieBalloon said:

sonshine said:
You are so severely misinformed. Listen to the Prince podcast that was posted way back at the beginning of this thread. Lots of these incorrect things you are repeating and that have been wrongly reported in the media for years are set right. There was no annulment. There was never any question in her mind because there was no annullment. Their divorce record is sealed. That's why you can't see it. Your running commentary on prince and mayte makes it crystal clear why he guarded his privacy so ferociously. And an annulment thru the Catholic church is an entirely different thing than a legal/civil annullment. I have first hand knowledge of this.
Do you believe Mayte never had an NDA? A l8nk has been posted from an interview where she states she cant say much because of a confidentiality agreement. Its straight from the horses mouth. As for the annullment, why would Prince say the marriage was annulled if it wasnt? The marriage was annulled but on what grounds we dont know. Yes, she denies it but Prince says it happened. You choose to believe Mayte over Prince, go ahead. Lets see what the book says.

Reply #316 posted 03/21/17 1:12pm

BillieBalloon

PennyPurple said:

 



BillieBalloon said:


sonshine said:
You are so severely misinformed. Listen to the Prince podcast that was posted way back at the beginning of this thread. Lots of these incorrect things you are repeating and that have been wrongly reported in the media for years are set right. There was no annulment. There was never any question in her mind because there was no annullment. Their divorce record is sealed. That's why you can't see it. Your running commentary on prince and mayte makes it crystal clear why he guarded his privacy so ferociously. And an annulment thru the Catholic church is an entirely different thing than a legal/civil annullment. I have first hand knowledge of this.

Do you believe Mayte never had an NDA? A l8nk has been posted from an interview where she states she cant say much because of a confidentiality agreement. Its straight from the horses mouth. As for the annullment, why would Prince say the marriage was annulled if it wasnt? The marriage was annulled but on what grounds we dont know. Yes, she denies it but Prince says it happened. You choose to believe Mayte over Prince, go ahead. Lets see what the book says.

Show where the marriage was annulled. Please produce the document.




Prince had the document.
Baby, you're a star.

Meet me in another world, space and joy
Reply #317 posted 03/21/17 1:14pm

PennyPurple

BillieBalloon said:

PennyPurple said:

Show where the marriage was annulled. Please produce the document.

Prince had the document.

How would you know?

Reply #318 posted 03/21/17 1:15pm

MD431Madcat

People

are

strange

Reply #319 posted 03/21/17 1:25pm

purplethunder3121

MD431Madcat said:

People

are

strange

hmm

Now that I'm free I let the wind blow me...
Reply #320 posted 03/21/17 1:26pm

precioux

meltedman said:

laurarichardson said:

sonshine said: People took screenshots of his harassing comments before she blocked him. Why do you think he made mention of it on the .poodcast. If she is crazy she still has right to say what she wants on her Facebook page. You know people are keeping the screenshots. You know he also sent out fake desist and cease letters concerning the bootleg copy after saying it did not exist and someone was making it up. Despite everything being in the people mag

Laura...havent you had enough of the lies and fantasy you create? SHOW ME THE SCREENSHOTS because I have one that says otherwise....show me screenshots where I have harassed anyone?

Enough of your lies.....take a trip out of that fantasy world you live in and come back to reality....EVERYTHING YOU SAY IS UNEDUCATED GUESSES AND LIES...just want to make that straight to anyone reading this drivel she posts.

How are you connected to Prince or anybody in his world that you would know anything about this man other than the lyrics to his songs? Come on....let us know why people should take your word as truth....back up ya bullshit or step off.....sick of you and those like you already spreading lies and bullshit around like its truth when none of yall have any connection to Prince and his world whatsoever.

If you want to post opinion about things you like or dislike about Mayte's book or anything else...negative or positive...then so be it. Free speech allows that and I would respect you more for an opinion...not spreading lies as if they are truth when you have absolutely no way to verify the crap that flows from your keyboard.

Ok, had to get this off my chest.....enough of this FANATIC already.

[Edited 3/21/17 13:05pm]



BAM!


THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Reply #321 posted 03/21/17 1:30pm

precioux

BillieBalloon said:

PennyPurple said:

Show where the marriage was annulled. Please produce the document.

Prince had the document.




Really? I don't think that was on the estate inventory list hmmm

And if the marriage between 2 people was annulled, I'm pretty sure both parties have a copy....and I have yet to see Mayte produce one, besides the fact that she flat out denies the annulment.

Reply #322 posted 03/21/17 1:31pm

precioux

NotACleverName said:

PennyPurple said:

What type of crazy person would suggest it to her?

Where's the high five emoticon? Guess this will do... clapping

highfive ...there's your "high five" emoticon

Reply #323 posted 03/21/17 1:34pm

Leopard52

BillieBalloon said:

sonshine said:
You are so severely misinformed. Listen to the Prince podcast that was posted way back at the beginning of this thread. Lots of these incorrect things you are repeating and that have been wrongly reported in the media for years are set right. There was no annulment. There was never any question in her mind because there was no annullment. Their divorce record is sealed. That's why you can't see it. Your running commentary on prince and mayte makes it crystal clear why he guarded his privacy so ferociously. And an annulment thru the Catholic church is an entirely different thing than a legal/civil annullment. I have first hand knowledge of this.
Do you believe Mayte never had an NDA? A l8nk has been posted from an interview where she states she cant say much because of a confidentiality agreement. Its straight from the horses mouth. As for the annullment, why would Prince say the marriage was annulled if it wasnt? The marriage was annulled but on what grounds we dont know. Yes, she denies it but Prince says it happened. You choose to believe Mayte over Prince, go ahead. Lets see what the book says.

You can't believe Prince about the annullment. You just have to have common sense for that one. Everyone knows that Prince wasn't above making up his own "truth". Don't they?

Reply #324 posted 03/21/17 1:35pm

CherryMoon57

benni said:

laurarichardson said:

sonshine said: I am not misinformed I know what she said in the past. Everybody else knew was divorced so why repeat that crap in tube first place she made herself look crazy. Please stop listening to Dave he is that close to getting the cops called him for harrasing people for writing their own opinion on their Facebook page. Why do you think he went on the podcast.


If Apples has him blocked from her FB page, how can he be harrassing her? Also, please provide screen shots of his harrassment on FB. Otherwise, it's he said/she said, and you are just choosing which side of the story to relay or which side you CHOOSE to believe.

[Edited 3/21/17 12:07pm]


Interestingly, Apollonia has also blocked Prince4Everyone on Twitter recently (on 2nd March to be more precise). All we did was include her in one our tweet about the campaign. We did the same with @PRNFamily and they retweeted the advert (and another one of our tweets). But when I went to check if Apollonia had retweeted ours later that day, I noticed that she had blocked us! It had me wondering if she didn't like the fact that we are promoting 'The Beautiful Ones' confuse

I never felt like we were 'harrassing' her... But then again tolerance levels differs from one person to another.

Help us take 'The Beautiful Ones' to the April charts! http://prince.org/msg/7/439188
Reply #325 posted 03/21/17 1:38pm

Leopard52

laurarichardson said:

sonshine said:
Exactly! Besides Apples gives off a strong vibe of bat-shit crazy. Who could take her seriously anyway?
People took screenshots of his harassing comments before she blocked him. Why do you think he made mention of it on the .poodcast. If she is crazy she still has right to say what she wants on her Facebook page. You know people are keeping the screenshots. You know he also sent out fake desist and cease letters concerning the bootleg copy after saying it did not exist and someone was making it up. Despite everything being in the people mag

There are so many years between Prince's relationships with these women! Why would Apples even

have an bad opinion on Mayte at all?

Reply #326 posted 03/21/17 1:46pm

blacknote

meltedman said:

BillieBalloon said:

sonshine said: Really? So shes lying? Is Dave a friend of yours?

THIS IS DAVE, and yes she is lying big time.....where are these screen shots of me threatening her? Oh yeah, THEY DON'T EXIST because I never threatened her.

Oh, shit.

Reply #327 posted 03/21/17 1:46pm

fortuneandserendipity

MD431Madcat said:

People

are

strange

"Musically way ahead of any of us" - Elton John on P

"I am a dyed-in-the-wool Englishman!" - Mozart (EU hater)


If most of the vault is like 'OLD FRIENDS 4 SALE' (8/10) prepare to be amazed, if it's more like NPG CLUB albums then don't expect much
Reply #328 posted 03/21/17 1:46pm

laurarichardson

BillieBalloon said:

sonshine said:


You are so severely misinformed. Listen to the Prince podcast that was posted way back at the beginning of this thread. Lots of these incorrect things you are repeating and that have been wrongly reported in the media for years are set right. There was no annulment. There was never any question in her mind because there was no annullment. Their divorce record is sealed. That's why you can't see it. Your running commentary on prince and mayte makes it crystal clear why he guarded his privacy so ferociously. And an annulment thru the Catholic church is an entirely different thing than a legal/civil annullment. I have first hand knowledge of this.



Do you believe Mayte never had an NDA? A l8nk has been posted from an interview where she states she cant say much because of a confidentiality agreement. Its straight from the horses mouth.


As for the annullment, why would Prince say the marriage was annulled if it wasnt?

The marriage was annulled but on what grounds we dont know. Yes, she denies it but Prince says it happened. You choose to believe Mayte over Prince, go ahead. Lets see what the book says.

Why am not surprised by the link. For the longest time she said nothing to refrute the annulment nonsense and now I wonder if the house was not a part of the NDA.
Reply #329 posted 03/21/17 1:50pm

precioux

blacknote said:

meltedman said:

THIS IS DAVE, and yes she is lying big time.....where are these screen shots of me threatening her? Oh yeah, THEY DON'T EXIST because I never threatened her.

Oh, shit.


hammer




popcorn

Reply #330 posted 03/21/17 1:53pm

laurarichardson

meltedman said:

 



BillieBalloon said:


sonshine said:
Exactly! Besides Apples gives off a strong vibe of bat-shit crazy. Who could take her seriously anyway?

Really? So shes lying? Is Dave a friend of yours?

 


 


 


THIS IS DAVE, and yes she is lying big time.....where are these screen shots of me threatening her?  Oh yeah, THEY DON'T EXIST because I never threatened her.


I said you harass people I never said you threatened anyone. I have seen the screen shots and people have told me also about them. I will see if I can get some on the board however you know you have been banned from Lipstick Alley for your comments. I know of a screen shot of Apples discussing you and your harassment Are you saying that you did not contact her because of something she said about Matye's auction? Are you saying the auction house is lying about why they took the stuff down and her spiteful comments? Do you really think there is a army of people lying on this women?
[Edited 3/21/17 13:55pm]
Reply #331 posted 03/21/17 1:53pm

fortuneandserendipity

I wish I hadn't posted the times link. This thread is now an attempt at character assasination eek

"Musically way ahead of any of us" - Elton John on P

"I am a dyed-in-the-wool Englishman!" - Mozart (EU hater)


If most of the vault is like 'OLD FRIENDS 4 SALE' (8/10) prepare to be amazed, if it's more like NPG CLUB albums then don't expect much
Reply #332 posted 03/21/17 1:56pm

precioux

laurarichardson said:

BillieBalloon said:
Do you believe Mayte never had an NDA? A l8nk has been posted from an interview where she states she cant say much because of a confidentiality agreement. Its straight from the horses mouth. As for the annullment, why would Prince say the marriage was annulled if it wasnt? The marriage was annulled but on what grounds we dont know. Yes, she denies it but Prince says it happened. You choose to believe Mayte over Prince, go ahead. Lets see what the book says.
Why am not surprised by the link. For the longest time she said nothing to refrute the annulment nonsense and now I wonder if the house was not a part of the NDA.

"For the longest time she said nothing to refute the annulment nonsense..."

I posted the link, to back my words up....the interview was from 2013, so exactly how does "for the longest time she said nothing to refute the annulment" play into your statement

Reply #333 posted 03/21/17 1:57pm

laurarichardson

fortuneandserendipity said:

I wish I hadn't posted the times link. This thread is now an attempt at character assasination eek


--You have to have character in order to carry out the assassination.
Reply #334 posted 03/21/17 1:57pm

disch

Guys, there was no legal annulment. Here's the exact situations in Minnesota that allow for annulment (they're very limited, and it's pretty clear that none apply to P & M's marriage): http://www.mncourts.gov/H...ation.aspx

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Now, he might have meant "annulment" in some spiritual sense, but legally? No.

BillieBalloon said:

PennyPurple said:

Show where the marriage was annulled. Please produce the document.

Prince had the document.

Reply #335 posted 03/21/17 1:58pm

laurarichardson

sonshine said:

laurarichardson said:


I am not misinformed I know what she said in the past. Everybody else knew was divorced so why repeat that crap in tube first place she made herself look crazy. Please stop listening to Dave he is that close to getting the cops called him for harrasing people for writing their own opinion on their Facebook page. Why do you think he went on the podcast.

Again I'm asking you where did she say this? When? Were you there? Did she say this to you? No? Then you are the one who looks crazy here for making stuff up.

So your fingertips are broken and you do not know how to Google. For years she did not stop the annulment nonsense.
Reply #336 posted 03/21/17 2:00pm

PennyPurple

disch said:

Guys, there was no legal annulment. Here's the exact situations in Minnesota that allow for annulment (they're very limited, and it's pretty clear that none apply to P & M's marriage): http://www.mncourts.gov/H...ation.aspx

-

Now, he might have meant "annulment" in some spiritual sense, but legally? No.

BillieBalloon said:

PennyPurple said: Prince had the document.

Exactly Disch. Some people just can't get it thru their heads, that Prince didn't always tell the truth.

Reply #337 posted 03/21/17 2:09pm

meltedman

laurarichardson said:

meltedman said:

THIS IS DAVE, and yes she is lying big time.....where are these screen shots of me threatening her? Oh yeah, THEY DON'T EXIST because I never threatened her.

I said you harass people I never said you threatened anyone. I have seen the screen shots and people have told me also about them. I will see if I can get some on the board however you know you have been banned from Lipstick Alley for your comments. I know of a screen shot of Apples discussing you and your harassment Are you saying that you did not contact her because of something she said about Matye's auction? Are you saying the auction house is lying about why they took the stuff down and her spiteful comments? Do you really think there is a army of people lying on this women? [Edited 3/21/17 13:55pm]

GO ahead post my screen shots and show how i supposedly harassed people.......present them because I never seen them. as for Lipstick Alley, that forum is a trashheap full of people who come from the same school of thought as you, that Prince does no wrong and you all KNOW WHAT HE WANTED(without even knowing the man outside of his music). . So don't get started on that horrible forum. If somebody shows any kind of support for Mayte, right away they get accused of being me....so the majority of people on that site are people who are puppets that cant think for themselves spreading hearsay and lies as gospel(says alot that that forum was formed as a result of those people being thrown off and banned from here)....And the auction house took ALL Prince auctions down. Not just hers. Their were other items in that auction that some people had no right too(like guitars and demo tapes)....and as far as her spiteful comments, please elaborate. Prince NEVER sued Mayte for anything..or tried to stop her from doing anything...dont you think if he had an NDA or wanted to stop her from doing anything, he wouldve enforced it when she was doing Hollywood Exes for 3 years. Come on and think for yourself for a change instead of going on hearsay and rumors as truth. If your gonna bring something to the table have the RECIEPTS to back it up...somebody show me a court order somewhere that Prince stopped Mayte from doing anything,oh yeah....you cant because they don't exist.

Ok im done with you, I got my post across, i know your still gonna come out here and spit your lies....if you really have a problem with me, look me up on Facebook and we can start a private chat, but I know you won't do that as you are a coward like the rest.

I pray for you that you get a grip on reality and join us here on planet earth, not the fantasy world you live in.

[Edited 3/21/17 15:26pm]

Reply #338 posted 03/21/17 2:09pm

disch

I agree with that Penny; Prince worked to build a public image that didn't necessarily always connect with reality.

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I do think, at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter if Prince and Mayte wanted to say their marriage was annuled or divorced or whatever. The legal technicalities don't really make a difference to anyone but them. The point was, they were no longer married (whether legally or in some other sense) and that because pretty irrefutable when Prince married someone else.

PennyPurple said:

disch said:

Guys, there was no legal annulment. Here's the exact situations in Minnesota that allow for annulment (they're very limited, and it's pretty clear that none apply to P & M's marriage): http://www.mncourts.gov/H...ation.aspx

-

Now, he might have meant "annulment" in some spiritual sense, but legally? No.

Exactly Disch. Some people just can't get it thru their heads, that Prince didn't always tell the truth.

Reply #339 posted 03/21/17 2:15pm

PennyPurple

disch said:

I agree with that Penny; Prince worked to build a public image that didn't necessarily always connect with reality.

-

I do think, at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter if Prince and Mayte wanted to say their marriage was annuled or divorced or whatever. The legal technicalities don't really make a difference to anyone but them. The point was, they were no longer married (whether legally or in some other sense) and that because pretty irrefutable when Prince married someone else.

PennyPurple said:

Exactly Disch. Some people just can't get it thru their heads, that Prince didn't always tell the truth.

I agree, but when people are saying that Prince had the annullment document, I know that's NOT true....sigh....people will say anything these days.

Reply #340 posted 03/21/17 2:23pm

disch

i hear ya -- this all gets silly and out of hand, both from the perspective of some people adamently defending the idea that everything Prince said publicly was literally true (it wasn't) AND that the precise legal status of his and Mayte's relationship matters to the public (it doesn't).

PennyPurple said:

disch said:

I agree with that Penny; Prince worked to build a public image that didn't necessarily always connect with reality.

-

I do think, at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter if Prince and Mayte wanted to say their marriage was annuled or divorced or whatever. The legal technicalities don't really make a difference to anyone but them. The point was, they were no longer married (whether legally or in some other sense) and that because pretty irrefutable when Prince married someone else.

I agree, but when people are saying that Prince had the annullment document, I know that's NOT true....sigh....people will say anything these days.

Reply #341 posted 03/21/17 2:34pm

BillieBalloon

PennyPurple said:

 



disch said:


I agree with that Penny; Prince worked to build a public image that didn't necessarily always connect with reality.


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I do think, at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter if Prince and Mayte wanted to say their marriage was annuled or divorced or whatever. The legal technicalities don't really make a difference to anyone but them. The point was, they were no longer married (whether legally or in some other sense) and that because pretty irrefutable when Prince married someone else. 



PennyPurple said:


 


Exactly Disch. Some people just can't get it thru their heads, that Prince didn't always tell the truth.



 



I agree, but when people are saying that Prince had the annullment document, I know that's NOT true....sigh....people will say anything these days.



How do you KNOW thats not true?
Baby, you're a star.

Meet me in another world, space and joy
Reply #342 posted 03/21/17 2:43pm

disch

how dooes someone KNOW it's not true that their marriage wasn't legally annulled?

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Because the law in Minnesota is clear about when annulment applies and it's pretty apparent the situations would not apply to P & M.

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Below is the exact summary if the legal requirements -- and in addition, even if any of these things are true, you can only apply for annulment within a very short period of time of discovering them:

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MN Statutes §§ 518.02 - 518.05 are the laws that control annulments and they say that a marriage may be annulled if:
A) One party was not able to give their voluntary consent to the marriage at the time of the marriage ceremony because:

  1. One party has a mental illness, insanity, or mental incapacity and the other party did not know about the mental illness, insanity, or mental incapacity at the time of the marriage ceremony; OR
  2. One party was under the influence of alcohol, drugs, or another “incapacitating” substance at the time of the marriage ceremony; OR
  3. Consent was obtained by force or fraud.

OR

B) One party is not able to “consummate” the marriage with sexual intercourse and the other party did not know this at the time of the marriage ceremony.

OR

C) One of the parties was under the legal age for marriage. The legal age for marriage in Minnesota is age 18; or age 16 or 17 only with the consent of the parents, a guardian, or the court, and approval of the application for a marriage license by a juvenile court judge. (See MN Statutes § 517.02.)

BillieBalloon said:

PennyPurple said:

I agree, but when people are saying that Prince had the annullment document, I know that's NOT true....sigh....people will say anything these days.

How do you KNOW thats not true?

Reply #343 posted 03/21/17 2:47pm

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame

disch said:

how dooes someone KNOW it's not true that their marriage wasn't legally annulled?

-

Because the law in Minnesota is clear about when annulment applies and it's pretty apparent the situations would not apply to P & M.

-

Below is the exact summary if the legal requirements -- and in addition, even if any of these things are true, you can only apply for annulment within a very short period of time of discovering them:

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MN Statutes §§ 518.02 - 518.05 are the laws that control annulments and they say that a marriage may be annulled if:
A) One party was not able to give their voluntary consent to the marriage at the time of the marriage ceremony because:

  1. One party has a mental illness, insanity, or mental incapacity and the other party did not know about the mental illness, insanity, or mental incapacity at the time of the marriage ceremony; OR
  2. One party was under the influence of alcohol, drugs, or another “incapacitating” substance at the time of the marriage ceremony; OR
  3. Consent was obtained by force or fraud.

OR

B) One party is not able to “consummate” the marriage with sexual intercourse and the other party did not know this at the time of the marriage ceremony.

OR

C) One of the parties was under the legal age for marriage. The legal age for marriage in Minnesota is age 18; or age 16 or 17 only with the consent of the parents, a guardian, or the court, and approval of the application for a marriage license by a juvenile court judge. (See MN Statutes § 517.02.)

BillieBalloon said:

PennyPurple said: How do you KNOW thats not true?

Correct again.

lol

Reply #344 posted 03/21/17 2:49pm

Menes

annalizer said:

206Michelle said:

From http://www.genlux.com/mayte-garcia/:

Mayte refutes an internet article stating that the marriage was annulled. “No! We did not annul the marriage,” she says emphatically, “You can’t annul after four years of marriage and a child. You can’t.”

I've seen that article. It's bizarre they kept changing their story.

So this is where I started... The confusion may be in the interpretation of what they both understood that word to be , or mean, as well as the reporting of the word being used in the first place. The word was used in context to re-writing their vows to tailor a spiritual life style. This is when he was going thru the change spritually with that "Larry" person we all know so well. I have both articles in the archive ( from the Star Tribune , the other, from a magazine) of him explaining what that meant for their spiriutal well being. According to the articles, he went so far as to spell out what the intention of the change was in a long letter. Of particular interest are the dates. This was before any talk of divorce or cheating allegations took place.

Reply #345 posted 03/21/17 3:00pm

disch

My suspicion is that what Prince (and Mayte) were saying publicly about the status of their marriage might not have reflected what was going on privately. Clearly they weren't exactly transparent publicly about other major issues in their relationship (e.g., the birth and death of their son). that's not a criticism of them; it's just an observation.

Menes said:

annalizer said:

206Michelle said: I've seen that article. It's bizarre they kept changing their story.

So this is where I started... The confusion may be in the interpretation of what they both understood that word to be , or mean, as well as the reporting of the word being used in the first place. The word was used in context to re-writing their vows to tailor a spiritual life style. This is when he was going thru the change spritually with that "Larry" person we all know so well. I have both articles in the archive ( from the Star Tribune , the other, from a magazine) of him explaining what that meant for their spiriutal well being. According to the articles, he went so far as to spell out what the intention of the change was in a long letter. Of particular interest are the dates. This was before any talk of divorce or cheating allegations took place.

[Edited 3/21/17 15:02pm]

Reply #346 posted 03/21/17 3:02pm

Menes

Also, can someone kindly remind me of exactly when was the date of the initial divorce(Mayte), and when Prince married Manuela? I want to make sure the canvas is painted just right before anything else gets misconstrued about statements made. Definitely three sides to this story. Thanks.

Reply #347 posted 03/21/17 3:03pm

PennyPurple

BillieBalloon said:

PennyPurple said:

I agree, but when people are saying that Prince had the annullment document, I know that's NOT true....sigh....people will say anything these days.

How do you KNOW thats not true?

You are just stirring. I know it's not true because of the LAW.

Reply #348 posted 03/21/17 3:07pm

PennyPurple

BillieBalloon said:

PennyPurple said:

Thank you Precioux. People Magazine said something different.

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I believe it is not Mayte that is mixing up the story, but these magazines and newspaper, just wanting to print what ever they want, or what THEY read into it.

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I'll wait for the book to take it all in context.

People magazine say the same thing the article above says: Look Pennypurple: https://www.google.co.uk/...death/amp/

NO, this is what the hard copy of the People Magazine said. I've even got it screenshot but I can't post that screenshot here for some reason.

The hard copy:

She got pregnant once more in 1997, but the pregnancy wasn't viable, and she was told she needed a D&C. Prince, who had begun studying the teachings of JW's, a religion he ultimately joined, opposed medical intervention; she went ahead anyway. by the following year he was keeping company with Manuela Testolini, a consultant for his charity. He was becoming more strident in his religious beliefs, writing in a song that he believed God was displeased with his early life and Amiir's death was part of the price he had to pay. But it was his request to have their marriage annulled, so they could "continue it in a less traditional fashion", that proved to be the last straw. After their divorce in 2000, Garcia was told, Prince had his assistant burn everything that reminded him of Garcia or the baby. On New Year's Eve 2001 he and Manuela wed.

Now the online article from People is saying something different then the hard copy.

Reply #349 posted 03/21/17 3:08pm

benni

disch said:

My suspicion is that what Prince (and Mayte) were saying publicly about the status of their marriage might not have reflected what was going on privately. Clearly they weren't exactly transparent publicly about other major issues in their relationship (e.g., the birth and death of their son). that's not a criticism of them; it's just an observation.

Menes said:

So this is where I started... The confusion may be in the interpretation of what they both understood that word to be , or mean, as well as the reporting of the word being used in the first place. The word was used in context to re-writing their vows to tailor a spiritual life style. This is when he was going thru the change spritually with that "Larry" person we all know so well. I have both articles in the archive ( from the Star Tribune , the other, from a magazine) of him explaining what that meant for their spiriutal well being. According to the articles, he went so far as to spell out what the intention of the change was in a long letter. Of particular interest are the dates. This was before any talk of divorce or cheating allegations took place.

[Edited 3/21/17 15:02pm]


I always looked at it as Prince's spiritual beliefs would not have supported divorce. Instead of "divorcing" he was getting an "annulment" as a way to sort of confuse the issue in his own mind, or to justify it to himself. "I don't believe in contracts, marriage is a contract, so we're going to annul this contract and get married spiritually." It sounds good in print, and romantic. He was always about protecting his image and a man that would look to divorce his wife soon after the loss of children would not have been viewed in a very positive manner. This way, his image was sort of intact to the general public any way.

Still #FeelingRejuvenated #FeelingInspired #FeelingLoved and #StillMissingPrince -- https://www.gofundme.com/...aSurvivors
Reply #350 posted 03/21/17 3:09pm

XxAxX

Menes said:

Also, can someone kindly remind me of exactly when was the date of the initial divorce(Mayte), and when Prince married Manuela? I want to make sure the canvas is painted just right before anything else gets misconstrued about statements made. Definitely three sides to this story. Thanks.



there's an old thread about how in 1999 there was some overlap http://prince.org/msg/7/17735?&pg=1 and as per mayte, i think the divorce was final in 2000?

Reply #351 posted 03/21/17 3:09pm

laurarichardson

precioux said:

 



laurarichardson said:


BillieBalloon said:
Do you believe Mayte never had an NDA? A l8nk has been posted from an interview where she states she cant say much because of a confidentiality agreement. Its straight from the horses mouth. As for the annullment, why would Prince say the marriage was annulled if it wasnt? The marriage was annulled but on what grounds we dont know. Yes, she denies it but Prince says it happened. You choose to believe Mayte over Prince, go ahead. Lets see what the book says.

Why am not surprised by the link. For the longest time she said nothing to refrute the annulment nonsense and now I wonder if the house was not a part of the NDA.

"For the longest time she said nothing to refute the annulment nonsense..."

I posted the link, to back my words up....the interview was from 2013, so exactly how does "for the longest time she said nothing to refute the annulment" play into your statement


--From so she said nothing from 2000 to 2013 and that is not a long time to you. ?
Reply #352 posted 03/21/17 3:13pm

laurarichardson

We all know there was no anullment. It is Prince and Mayte that put that out no one ever belived because it is not possible. In his mind he may felt that the marriage was annulled but not legally.

However, it you look in the Carver County court records you will find a l ist of the court proceedings for M2 divorce despite the sealing. You will find one traffic ticket for Prince, You will find a judgement, you will find real estate transactions, You can even find some trouble that John and Duane got into but you do not see one bit of information about guardianship or divorce from M1. Very strange because even if she did not contest the divorce their should be a listing.

disch said:

Guys, there was no legal annulment. Here's the exact situations in Minnesota that allow for annulment (they're very limited, and it's pretty clear that none apply to P & M's marriage): http://www.mncourts.gov/H...ation.aspx

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Now, he might have meant "annulment" in some spiritual sense, but legally? No.

BillieBalloon said:

PennyPurple said: Prince had the document.

Reply #353 posted 03/21/17 3:15pm

Menes

disch said:

My suspicion is that what Prince (and Mayte) were saying publicly about the status of their marriage might not have reflected what was going on privately. Clearly they weren't exactly transparent publicly about other major issues in their relationship (e.g., the birth and death of their son). that's not a criticism of them; it's just an observation.

Menes said:

So this is where I started... The confusion may be in the interpretation of what they both understood that word to be , or mean, as well as the reporting of the word being used in the first place. The word was used in context to re-writing their vows to tailor a spiritual life style. This is when he was going thru the change spritually with that "Larry" person we all know so well. I have both articles in the archive ( from the Star Tribune , the other, from a magazine) of him explaining what that meant for their spiriutal well being. According to the articles, he went so far as to spell out what the intention of the change was in a long letter. Of particular interest are the dates. This was before any talk of divorce or cheating allegations took place.

[Edited 3/21/17 15:02pm]

I can agree wit this, but the dates are an indication of where things were in the marriage. This was the before the turmoil. I think it would be astretch to say he tried to fool her into something or take advantage of her to get out of paying up in the event of a divroce. Now, is it possible that he was planning all along to do this? Sure .The problem with that is that he wasn't approaching the marriage from a religious perspective at the onset. This seems to be a religious edict of sorts pursant to JW becoming more involved in his life. He makes many religious references to that. So, If the interviewer(s) said to Mayte, " Tell us about the annulment of your marriage", her reaction would be as anticpated and is well documented. That shoud neutralize any other hogwash that is being said.

Reply #354 posted 03/21/17 3:19pm

laurarichardson

meltedman said:

laurarichardson said:

meltedman said: I said you harass people I never said you threatened anyone. I have seen the screen shots and people have told me also about them. I will see if I can get some on the board however you know you have been banned from Lipstick Alley for your comments. I know of a screen shot of Apples discussing you and your harassment Are you saying that you did not contact her because of something she said about Matye's auction? Are you saying the auction house is lying about why they took the stuff down and her spiteful comments? Do you really think there is a army of people lying on this women? [Edited 3/21/17 13:55pm]

GO ahead post my screen shots and show how i supposedly harassed people.......present them because I never seen them. as for Lipstick Alley, that forum is a trashheap full of people who come from the same school of thought as you, that Prince does no wrong and you all KNOW WHAT HE WANTED(without even knowing the man outside of his music). . So don't get started on that horrible forum. If somebody shows any kind of support for Mayte, right away they get accused of being me....so the majority of people on that site are people who are puppets that cant think for themselves spreading hearsay and lies as gospel(says alot that that forum was formed as a result of those people being thrown off and banned from here)....And the auction house took ALL Prince auctions down. Not just hers. Their were other items in that auction that some people had no right too(like guitars and demo tapes)....and as far as her spiteful comments, please elaborate. Prince NEVER sued Mayte for anything..or tried to stop her from doing anything...dont you think if he had an NDA or wanted to stop her from doing anything, he wouldve enforced it when she was doing Hollywood Exes for 3 years. Come on and think for yourself for a change instead of going on hearsay and rumors as truth. If your gonna bring something to the table have the RECIEPTS to back it up...somebody show me a court order somewhere that Prince stopped Mayte from doing anything,oh yeah....you cant because they don't exist.

Ok im done with you, I got my post across, i know your still gonna come out here and spit your lies....if you really have a problem with me, look me up on Facebook and we can start a private chat, but I know you won't do that as you are a coward like the rest.

I pray for you that you get a grip on reality and join us here on planet earth, not the fantasy world you live in.

See below. This info in from the auction site. But you know Prince never stopped from doing anything she wanted to do.

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In March 2016, one month before Prince died, we at NateDSanders.com Auction House, had Prince worn jewelry at auction consigned by his first wife, Mayte Garcia. We knew that Prince was very litigious so we were worried about having Prince worn jewelry at a public auction given that he sued almost every frivolous thing. We asked Mayte if he was going to sue and she said: “Prince doesn’t want to mess with me.” A month later, Prince sued, and we pulled the items from the auction. It wasn’t that we didn’t think that we could win the auction, it just wasn’t worth the time and money to fight Prince. A month after that, Prince died. Now, Prince worn jewelry would be worth fighting a lawsuit for as his jewelry could sell for $10,000, $20,000, $30,000 and up. Back then, Prince worn jewelry was much harder to sell. His death brought great demand for his memorabilia. Here are descriptions and pictures of the Prince worn jewelry at our auction:"
> ========
> Source: http://natedsanders.com/b...n-jewelry/

[Edited 3/21/17 15:19pm]

Reply #355 posted 03/21/17 3:24pm

nelcp777

disch said:

how dooes someone KNOW it's not true that their marriage wasn't legally annulled?

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Because the law in Minnesota is clear about when annulment applies and it's pretty apparent the situations would not apply to P & M.

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Below is the exact summary if the legal requirements -- and in addition, even if any of these things are true, you can only apply for annulment within a very short period of time of discovering them:

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MN Statutes §§ 518.02 - 518.05 are the laws that control annulments and they say that a marriage may be annulled if:
A) One party was not able to give their voluntary consent to the marriage at the time of the marriage ceremony because:

  1. One party has a mental illness, insanity, or mental incapacity and the other party did not know about the mental illness, insanity, or mental incapacity at the time of the marriage ceremony; OR
  2. One party was under the influence of alcohol, drugs, or another “incapacitating” substance at the time of the marriage ceremony; OR
  3. Consent was obtained by force or fraud.

OR

B) One party is not able to “consummate” the marriage with sexual intercourse and the other party did not know this at the time of the marriage ceremony.

OR

C) One of the parties was under the legal age for marriage. The legal age for marriage in Minnesota is age 18; or age 16 or 17 only with the consent of the parents, a guardian, or the court, and approval of the application for a marriage license by a juvenile court judge. (See MN Statutes § 517.02.)

BillieBalloon said:

PennyPurple said: How do you KNOW thats not true?

Thanks for the clarity/information.

Reply #356 posted 03/21/17 3:24pm

PennyPurple

laurarichardson said:

We all know there was no anullment. It is Prince and Mayte that put that out no one ever belived because it is not possible. In his mind he may felt that the marriage was annulled but not legally.

However, it you look in the Carver County court records you will find a l ist of the court proceedings for M2 divorce despite the sealing. You will find one traffic ticket for Prince, You will find a judgement, you will find real estate transactions, You can even find some trouble that John and Duane got into but you do not see one bit of information about guardianship or divorce from M1. Very strange because even if she did not contest the divorce their should be a listing.

disch said:

Guys, there was no legal annulment. Here's the exact situations in Minnesota that allow for annulment (they're very limited, and it's pretty clear that none apply to P & M's marriage): http://www.mncourts.gov/H...ation.aspx

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Now, he might have meant "annulment" in some spiritual sense, but legally? No.

You might want to let Billie know there was no annulment. She seems to know that Prince had the annulment document in his possession.

Reply #357 posted 03/21/17 3:25pm

Menes

laurarichardson said:

meltedman said:

GO ahead post my screen shots and show how i supposedly harassed people.......present them because I never seen them. as for Lipstick Alley, that forum is a trashheap full of people who come from the same school of thought as you, that Prince does no wrong and you all KNOW WHAT HE WANTED(without even knowing the man outside of his music). . So don't get started on that horrible forum. If somebody shows any kind of support for Mayte, right away they get accused of being me....so the majority of people on that site are people who are puppets that cant think for themselves spreading hearsay and lies as gospel(says alot that that forum was formed as a result of those people being thrown off and banned from here)....And the auction house took ALL Prince auctions down. Not just hers. Their were other items in that auction that some people had no right too(like guitars and demo tapes)....and as far as her spiteful comments, please elaborate. Prince NEVER sued Mayte for anything..or tried to stop her from doing anything...dont you think if he had an NDA or wanted to stop her from doing anything, he wouldve enforced it when she was doing Hollywood Exes for 3 years. Come on and think for yourself for a change instead of going on hearsay and rumors as truth. If your gonna bring something to the table have the RECIEPTS to back it up...somebody show me a court order somewhere that Prince stopped Mayte from doing anything,oh yeah....you cant because they don't exist.

Ok im done with you, I got my post across, i know your still gonna come out here and spit your lies....if you really have a problem with me, look me up on Facebook and we can start a private chat, but I know you won't do that as you are a coward like the rest.

I pray for you that you get a grip on reality and join us here on planet earth, not the fantasy world you live in.

See below. This info in from the auction site. But you know Prince never stopped from doing anything she wanted to do.

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In March 2016, one month before Prince died, we at NateDSanders.com Auction House, had Prince worn jewelry at auction consigned by his first wife, Mayte Garcia. We knew that Prince was very litigious so we were worried about having Prince worn jewelry at a public auction given that he sued almost every frivolous thing. We asked Mayte if he was going to sue and she said: “Prince doesn’t want to mess with me.” A month later, Prince sued, and we pulled the items from the auction. It wasn’t that we didn’t think that we could win the auction, it just wasn’t worth the time and money to fight Prince. A month after that, Prince died. Now, Prince worn jewelry would be worth fighting a lawsuit for as his jewelry could sell for $10,000, $20,000, $30,000 and up. Back then, Prince worn jewelry was much harder to sell. His death brought great demand for his memorabilia. Here are descriptions and pictures of the Prince worn jewelry at our auction:"
> ========
> Source: http://natedsanders.com/b...n-jewelry/

[Edited 3/21/17 15:19pm]

and in addition, lets file that under the shit she was hawking @ the pawnshop previously and what she said about not getting any money from Prince. It's gonna get better.

Reply #358 posted 03/21/17 3:32pm

lavie

laurarichardson said:

We all know there was no anullment. It is Prince and Mayte that put that out no one ever belived because it is not possible. In his mind he may felt that the marriage was annulled but not legally.

However, it you look in the Carver County court records you will find a l ist of the court proceedings for M2 divorce despite the sealing. You will find one traffic ticket for Prince, You will find a judgement, you will find real estate transactions, You can even find some trouble that John and Duane got into but you do not see one bit of information about guardianship or divorce from M1. Very strange because even if she did not contest the divorce their should be a listing.

disch said:

Guys, there was no legal annulment. Here's the exact situations in Minnesota that allow for annulment (they're very limited, and it's pretty clear that none apply to P & M's marriage): http://www.mncourts.gov/H...ation.aspx

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Now, he might have meant "annulment" in some spiritual sense, but legally? No.

Maybe no annulment and maybe no divorce either as it is entirely possible there was never a legal marriage to begin with. Could explain why she didn't get much besides the house in Espana and also why nobody can seem to find a record of the divorce as even if sealed (as in the case of Manuela), you'd still be able to see there was a divorce.

I am reminded of that time, remember when Eddie Murphy got "married" to Tracey Edmonds? They had this ceremony and it was featured in magazines and stuff and 14 days later, they called it quits. It turned out it, the wedding ceremony was just for show and not legal and when the relationship was over, they simply moved on their merry ways.

Anyway, doesn't really matter because Prince did legally marry someone else subsequent to their split.

[Edited 3/21/17 15:33pm]

Have U had your + today?
Reply #359 posted 03/21/17 3:40pm

Mumio

Menes said:

laurarichardson said:

See below. This info in from the auction site. But you know Prince never stopped from doing anything she wanted to do.

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In March 2016, one month before Prince died, we at NateDSanders.com Auction House, had Prince worn jewelry at auction consigned by his first wife, Mayte Garcia. We knew that Prince was very litigious so we were worried about having Prince worn jewelry at a public auction given that he sued almost every frivolous thing. We asked Mayte if he was going to sue and she said: “Prince doesn’t want to mess with me.” A month later, Prince sued, and we pulled the items from the auction. It wasn’t that we didn’t think that we could win the auction, it just wasn’t worth the time and money to fight Prince. A month after that, Prince died. Now, Prince worn jewelry would be worth fighting a lawsuit for as his jewelry could sell for $10,000, $20,000, $30,000 and up. Back then, Prince worn jewelry was much harder to sell. His death brought great demand for his memorabilia. Here are descriptions and pictures of the Prince worn jewelry at our auction:"
> ========
> Source: http://natedsanders.com/b...n-jewelry/

[Edited 3/21/17 15:19pm]

and in addition, lets file that under the shit she was hawking @ the pawnshop previously and what she said about not getting any money from Prince. It's gonna get better.



omg popcorn lol

Reply #360 posted 03/21/17 3:59pm

Menes

lavie said:

laurarichardson said:

We all know there was no anullment. It is Prince and Mayte that put that out no one ever belived because it is not possible. In his mind he may felt that the marriage was annulled but not legally.

However, it you look in the Carver County court records you will find a l ist of the court proceedings for M2 divorce despite the sealing. You will find one traffic ticket for Prince, You will find a judgement, you will find real estate transactions, You can even find some trouble that John and Duane got into but you do not see one bit of information about guardianship or divorce from M1. Very strange because even if she did not contest the divorce their should be a listing.

Maybe no annulment and maybe no divorce either as it is entirely possible there was never a legal marriage to begin with. Could explain why she didn't get much besides the house in Espana and also why nobody can seem to find a record of the divorce as even if sealed (as in the case of Manuela), you'd still be able to see there was a divorce.

I am reminded of that time, remember when Eddie Murphy got "married" to Tracey Edmonds? They had this ceremony and it was featured in magazines and stuff and 14 days later, they called it quits. It turned out it, the wedding ceremony was just for show and not legal and when the relationship was over, they simply moved on their merry ways.

Anyway, doesn't really matter because Prince did legally marry someone else subsequent to their split.

[Edited 3/21/17 15:33pm]

Oh, I hear ya! Well she did say she she had no money , and had gotten no money from Prince. Now to some, this might show Prince to be a miser and cold hearted, driving poor Mayte to the edge of oblivion. UNTIL YOU DIG IT UP REAL GOOD. You have to use a bit of dating analysis (lol) and analyze when she made the statement. Then contrast that with anything she got during the marriage and pursant to the divorce years ago. Let's just say she didn't leave broke, but rather, became broke and then complained about how horrible her financial situation was compared to others who were not broke. They all got something from Prince, so why am I broke? Kinda like the guy who wants credit on Prince's album because he lifted a pencil in the studio. Prince pays him for lifting the pencil but the guy still believes he is entitled to more (lifting the pencil revenue).

Reply #361 posted 03/21/17 4:01pm

206Michelle

benni said:

purplerabbithole said:

It doesn't sound like she tried very hard to get more. Other wise, there would have been a long drug out drama over money etc. Either Prince had something on Mayte or Mayte just didn't want to be petty or both.


No, it doesn't sound like she tried very hard. I know I didn't. By the time we decided to divorce, I just wanted out of the marriage with whatever possessions I had when I entered the marriage. I never tried to get anything from either husband, because it was never about what they had to me, I loved them for the men they were, not the money they had. And for those that are saying her publishing this book now is just a money grab. Have they really thought about that? If Mayte had wanted to get money off of Prince, she had the perfect opportunity when they divorced. She'd lost a baby, miscarried another, he earned the majority of the monies coming into the marriage and since Mayte had gotten used to a certain lifestyle, she could have demanded alimony and a large settlement, and would have won. But she didn't do that. She didn't ask for anything. That says more to me about who she is, and how she didn't take advantage of Prince to get money through the divorce, than anything else.

yeahthat

Don't die without knowing the cross.
Reply #362 posted 03/21/17 4:02pm

BillieBalloon

PennyPurple said:

 



laurarichardson said:


We all know there was no anullment. It is Prince and Mayte that put that out no one ever belived because it is not possible. In his mind he may felt that the marriage was annulled but not legally.


However, it you look in the Carver County court records you will find a l ist of the court proceedings for M2 divorce despite the sealing. You will find one traffic ticket for Prince, You will find a judgement, you will find real estate transactions, You can even find some trouble that John and Duane got into but you do not see one bit of information about guardianship or divorce from M1. Very strange because even if she did not contest the divorce their should be a listing.



disch said:


Guys, there was no legal annulment. Here's the exact situations in Minnesota that allow for annulment (they're very limited, and it's pretty clear that none apply to P & M's marriage): http://www.mncourts.gov/Help-Topics/Annulment-and-Legal-Separation.aspx


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Now, he might have meant "annulment" in some spiritual sense, but legally? No.


 



 



You might want to let Billie know there was no annulment. She seems to know that Prince had the annulment document in his possession.




Hey Penny, I know how to read.
Baby, you're a star.

Meet me in another world, space and joy
Reply #363 posted 03/21/17 4:08pm

Mumio

Menes said:

And how harsh have most of us here been with her, to include me? I can move on from the epic knock down fights I've had with her without bitching about how much she's hurting my feelings on a forum. She gives it as much as she gets it and she damn sure gets it alot. People attack her all the time for days on end. Once, I hammered Laura for 3 days straight. She gave it right back to me for those same 3 days. We still don't agree on a lot of things but I would rather have her in a foxhole in a time of war than some of these cupcakes seeking an emotional crutch in a forum. Certain sensitive souls who are predisposed to fragility and need mommy's protective pouch ,need to leave all of that damn baggage at the door. Go buy a puppy if you need that much love! This is not a therapy hall with levels of care based upon your emotional state. I need a drink.


Menes, I'm glad you said this because I've also had harsh words with her in the past. It's been awhile since those times and after watching her in action, I'd definitely want her on my side. I've got respect for her nod

Reply #364 posted 03/21/17 4:10pm

PennyPurple

BillieBalloon said:

PennyPurple said:

You might want to let Billie know there was no annulment. She seems to know that Prince had the annulment document in his possession.

Hey Penny, I know how to read.

lol Uhh...sure....

BillieBalloon said:

Prince had the document.

Reply #365 posted 03/21/17 4:16pm

Menes

BillieBalloon said:

PennyPurple said:

You might want to let Billie know there was no annulment. She seems to know that Prince had the annulment document in his possession.

Hey Penny, I know how to read.

While technically the marriage was not "annuled" ,apparenty there does exist proof that he made "null" the existing vows and subsequently wrote a version that better suited their definition of a marriage that coincides with their spiritual harmony. It is still a document between two people to make null and void that which was. For emphasis, if the interviewer used the word annulment to Mayte instead of saying "did you and Prince( or Prince) re-write your vows and replaced it with your own vows"? I don't think she would have been as jarring in her answer. We can blame the interviewer for this one.

Reply #366 posted 03/21/17 4:18pm

annalizer

http://www.eonline.com/news/37459/prince-2-86-marriage

This is in December of 1998. Maybe they got an actual divorce and stayed together until 2000?
🤔
Reply #367 posted 03/21/17 4:18pm

206Michelle

disch said:

My suspicion is that what Prince (and Mayte) were saying publicly about the status of their marriage might not have reflected what was going on privately. Clearly they weren't exactly transparent publicly about other major issues in their relationship (e.g., the birth and death of their son). that's not a criticism of them; it's just an observation.

Menes said:

So this is where I started... The confusion may be in the interpretation of what they both understood that word to be , or mean, as well as the reporting of the word being used in the first place. The word was used in context to re-writing their vows to tailor a spiritual life style. This is when he was going thru the change spritually with that "Larry" person we all know so well. I have both articles in the archive ( from the Star Tribune , the other, from a magazine) of him explaining what that meant for their spiriutal well being. According to the articles, he went so far as to spell out what the intention of the change was in a long letter. Of particular interest are the dates. This was before any talk of divorce or cheating allegations took place.

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yeahthat You hit the nail on the head, disch.

Don't die without knowing the cross.
Reply #368 posted 03/21/17 4:20pm

tmo1965

lavie said:

laurarichardson said:

We all know there was no anullment. It is Prince and Mayte that put that out no one ever belived because it is not possible. In his mind he may felt that the marriage was annulled but not legally.

However, it you look in the Carver County court records you will find a l ist of the court proceedings for M2 divorce despite the sealing. You will find one traffic ticket for Prince, You will find a judgement, you will find real estate transactions, You can even find some trouble that John and Duane got into but you do not see one bit of information about guardianship or divorce from M1. Very strange because even if she did not contest the divorce their should be a listing.

Maybe no annulment and maybe no divorce either as it is entirely possible there was never a legal marriage to begin with. Could explain why she didn't get much besides the house in Espana and also why nobody can seem to find a record of the divorce as even if sealed (as in the case of Manuela), you'd still be able to see there was a divorce.

I am reminded of that time, remember when Eddie Murphy got "married" to Tracey Edmonds? They had this ceremony and it was featured in magazines and stuff and 14 days later, they called it quits. It turned out it, the wedding ceremony was just for show and not legal and when the relationship was over, they simply moved on their merry ways.

Anyway, doesn't really matter because Prince did legally marry someone else subsequent to their split.

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I could be completely wrong, but it seems that I remember reading somewhere that the M1 divorce was done in New York. I remember trying to search NYC court documents but I believe that you can't search their divorce records online, or maybe I was looking in the wrong place.

Reply #369 posted 03/21/17 4:23pm

Menes

annalizer said:

http://www.eonline.com/ne...6-marriage This is in December of 1998. Maybe they got an actual divorce and stayed together until 2000? 🤔

You're getting pretty good , Anna, and will find that the "love story" is all over the place and has 3 sides to it. Some eyes wil get peeled right back after she drops her book because she will only tell her side.

Reply #370 posted 03/21/17 4:33pm

Misslink88

tmo1965 said:

I could be completely wrong, but it seems that I remember reading somewhere that the M1 divorce was done in New York. I remember trying to search NYC court documents but I believe that you can't search their divorce records online, or maybe I was looking in the wrong place.

Wouldn't meet the residency requirements:

  • If you were married in another state, either you or your spouse must have lived in New York for at least two continuous years before the filing date of your divorce.

God is my Sugar Daddy.
Reply #371 posted 03/21/17 4:39pm

206Michelle

annalizer said:

http://www.eonline.com/ne...6-marriage This is in December of 1998. Maybe they got an actual divorce and stayed together until 2000? 🤔

Maybe they separated in 1998 and the "annullment" was just public relations move? I don't know; hopefully, Mayte will address this issue in her book.

Don't die without knowing the cross.
Reply #372 posted 03/21/17 4:41pm

PennyPurple

annalizer said:

http://www.eonline.com/ne...6-marriage This is in December of 1998. Maybe they got an actual divorce and stayed together until 2000? 🤔

Or..maybe it took awhile to get the divorce, since divorce's aren't instant and maybe 2000 is the year the divorce was finalized.

Reply #373 posted 03/21/17 4:44pm

Menes

XxAxX said:

Menes said:

Also, can someone kindly remind me of exactly when was the date of the initial divorce(Mayte), and when Prince married Manuela? I want to make sure the canvas is painted just right before anything else gets misconstrued about statements made. Definitely three sides to this story. Thanks.



there's an old thread about how in 1999 there was some overlap http://prince.org/msg/7/17735?&pg=1 and as per mayte, i think the divorce was final in 2000?

Yes, there was. There was a lot going on and some of it is pretty salacious. I am sure sweet ole' Mayte will insert it in the love story'. I mean, she wouldn't put anything disparaging in the book about Prince, yet omit disparaging things about herself , now would she? No , no, she wouldnt do that. Just wouldn't. After all, how could there be any lick of evidence that things can appear mutual to some, yet lopsided to others? I have to remind myself that she was a sweet, young ,innocent angel as is portrayed when she was his wife and thereafter. Of course, that alone should compel me to believe that she is not capable of any infractions compared to what Prince allegedly did, or was like. It's good to be objective, so I will keep an open mind, and a closed mouth, for now. Thanks for showing me that. I will file it away.

Reply #374 posted 03/21/17 5:07pm

Menes

Misslink88 said:

tmo1965 said:

I could be completely wrong, but it seems that I remember reading somewhere that the M1 divorce was done in New York. I remember trying to search NYC court documents but I believe that you can't search their divorce records online, or maybe I was looking in the wrong place.

Wouldn't meet the residency requirements:

  • If you were married in another state, either you or your spouse must have lived in New York for at least two continuous years before the filing date of your divorce.

This video is great and insightful for a few reasons. You can't and shouldn't want to make this stuff up. Isn't she just so pretty sitting there? Such an innocent delicate flower. I am going back in my corner.

prince - Press Conference... - YouTube

Reply #375 posted 03/21/17 5:08pm

MD431Madcat

Reply #376 posted 03/21/17 5:11pm

disch

i have to admit, I've lost train of why some posters here are so incensed about this particular issue (annulment vs. divorce and the date that these things occured). What difference does it make at this point about the specific legal status of their relationship on specific dates? Clearly they had a marital relationship for a number of years, and then by around 2000, they didn't. And clearly they both were very cagey and vague with the public about exactly what was going in their relationship/family, in a number of ways. That's not exactly new news.

206Michelle said:

annalizer said:

http://www.eonline.com/ne...6-marriage This is in December of 1998. Maybe they got an actual divorce and stayed together until 2000? 🤔

Maybe they separated in 1998 and the "annullment" was just public relations move? I don't know; hopefully, Mayte will address this issue in her book.

Reply #377 posted 03/21/17 5:21pm

PeteSilas

Mumio said:

Menes said:

And how harsh have most of us here been with her, to include me? I can move on from the epic knock down fights I've had with her without bitching about how much she's hurting my feelings on a forum. She gives it as much as she gets it and she damn sure gets it alot. People attack her all the time for days on end. Once, I hammered Laura for 3 days straight. She gave it right back to me for those same 3 days. We still don't agree on a lot of things but I would rather have her in a foxhole in a time of war than some of these cupcakes seeking an emotional crutch in a forum. Certain sensitive souls who are predisposed to fragility and need mommy's protective pouch ,need to leave all of that damn baggage at the door. Go buy a puppy if you need that much love! This is not a therapy hall with levels of care based upon your emotional state. I need a drink.


Menes, I'm glad you said this because I've also had harsh words with her in the past. It's been awhile since those times and after watching her in action, I'd definitely want her on my side. I've got respect for her nod

damn right, i call her bloodhound lorna because all the info she has, generally, i'd say i know more than 95 percent of prince fans and probably more than 65 percent on this site but lorna is in that 35 percent that beats me out.

We Are The Greatest!
Reply #378 posted 03/21/17 5:22pm

Vashtix

PennyPurple said:

I certainly hope that Mayte does NOT pull this book. She has the right to tell her story and she shouldn't be silenced.

I think she has to realize and accept there are people who will see her as an ex wife who will not let go and is bitter her ex husband moved on and lived a great life without her in it.

It suprises me that there are those who cannot accept Prince moved on. They want to keep in the 1990s. The man Mayte married is not the 57 year old man who died last year.

SO

that being said I do hope there can be discussion without disrespect to varying opinions.

Reply #379 posted 03/21/17 5:33pm

Vashtix

PennyPurple said:

I certainly hope that Mayte does NOT pull this book. She has the right to tell her story and she shouldn't be silenced.

I think she has to realize and accept there are people who will see her as an ex wife who will not let go and is bitter her ex husband moved on and lived a great life without her in it.

It suprises me that there are those who cannot accept Prince moved on. They want to keep in the 1990s. The man Mayte married is not the 57 year old man who died last year.

SO

that being said I do hope there can be discussion without disrespect to varying opinions.

Reply #380 posted 03/21/17 5:38pm

Vashtix

disch said:

i have to admit, I've lost train of why some posters here are so incensed about this particular issue (annulment vs. divorce and the date that these things occured). What difference does it make at this point about the specific legal status of their relationship on specific dates? Clearly they had a marital relationship for a number of years, and then by around 2000, they didn't. And clearly they both were very cagey and vague with the public about exactly what was going in their relationship/family, in a number of ways. That's not exactly new news.

206Michelle said:

Maybe they separated in 1998 and the "annullment" was just public relations move? I don't know; hopefully, Mayte will address this issue in her book.

The questions people are asking are valid ; Mayte writing the book and including information she has opened the door for inquiry and people delving back into what has been documented by Mayte herself.

The public is not dumb. People and podcasts and other mags can act like they have a scoop but Mayte has been around and even did a reality TV show.

I would think a decent interviewer would have looked back at things document during that era and asked the questions some people are asking now but they seem to just want a sensational, defaming Prince story.

Reply #381 posted 03/21/17 5:52pm

PennyPurple

Vashtix said:

PennyPurple said:

I certainly hope that Mayte does NOT pull this book. She has the right to tell her story and she shouldn't be silenced.

I think she has to realize and accept there are people who will see her as an ex wife who will not let go and is bitter her ex husband moved on and lived a great life without her in it.

It suprises me that there are those who cannot accept Prince moved on. They want to keep in the 1990s. The man Mayte married is not the 57 year old man who died last year.

SO

that being said I do hope there can be discussion without disrespect to varying opinions.

I just don't get all the hate that is being thrown her way. Certain posters here are saying a lot of untrue things, just to be cruel. I don't think that's ok. I feel everyone has a story, and they should be able to tell it if they want to good, or bad. There is no need for the hate. Nobody is perfect.

Reply #382 posted 03/21/17 6:02pm

PennyPurple

Vashtix said:

disch said:

i have to admit, I've lost train of why some posters here are so incensed about this particular issue (annulment vs. divorce and the date that these things occured). What difference does it make at this point about the specific legal status of their relationship on specific dates? Clearly they had a marital relationship for a number of years, and then by around 2000, they didn't. And clearly they both were very cagey and vague with the public about exactly what was going in their relationship/family, in a number of ways. That's not exactly new news.

The questions people are asking are valid ; Mayte writing the book and including information she has opened the door for inquiry and people delving back into what has been documented by Mayte herself.

The public is not dumb. People and podcasts and other mags can act like they have a scoop but Mayte has been around and even did a reality TV show.

I would think a decent interviewer would have looked back at things document during that era and asked the questions some people are asking now but they seem to just want a sensational, defaming Prince story.

Let's face it. Prince hasn't always been truthful. I'm not saying he's a liar, I'm saying he'd say anything to get out of telling the public anything about his life, and when he did tell us something it was always in 'code'. I say he skirted around the truth quite a bit. So on one hand you can say 'well Mayte said this 20 years ago, but now she is saying this'. She was schooled and groomed by Prince, he taught her well how to skirt around issues.

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And another thing, I don't see things like I did 20 years ago. We grow, we change, my opinioins aren't the same as they were 20 years ago. Life happens and those life happenings change peoples views.

Reply #383 posted 03/21/17 6:08pm

awake4now

PennyPurple said:

Vashtix said:

I think she has to realize and accept there are people who will see her as an ex wife who will not let go and is bitter her ex husband moved on and lived a great life without her in it.

It suprises me that there are those who cannot accept Prince moved on. They want to keep in the 1990s. The man Mayte married is not the 57 year old man who died last year.

SO

that being said I do hope there can be discussion without disrespect to varying opinions.

I just don't get all the hate that is being thrown her way. Certain posters here are saying a lot of untrue things, just to be cruel. I don't think that's ok. I feel everyone has a story, and they should be able to tell it if they want to good, or bad. There is no need for the hate. Nobody is perfect.

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There are plenty of posts with constructive criticisms and legitimate complaints about the book, its release, and promotion campaign as well. But some people conveniently dance around those statements or ignore those questions b/c it doesn't suit their narrative of "oh what a poor little victim, we should support the book no matter what."

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Reply #384 posted 03/21/17 6:11pm

Vashtix

PennyPurple said

Vashtix said:

I think she has to realize and accept there are people who will see her as an ex wife who will not let go and is bitter her ex husband moved on and lived a great life without her in it.

It suprises me that there are those who cannot accept Prince moved on. They want to keep in the 1990s. The man Mayte married is not the 57 year old man who died last year.

SO

that being said I do hope there can be discussion without disrespect to varying opinions.

I just don't get all the hate that is being thrown her way. Certain posters here are saying a lot of untrue things, just to be cruel. I don't think that's ok. I feel everyone has a story, and they should be able to tell it if they want to good, or bad. There is no need for the hate. Nobody is perfect.

People are hurt that she has appeared to try to say things about Prince in a indirect way about drug use, and messing with a minor,. It is offensive to me as a fan. I think people expected her to not diss him. He is being called everything but the child of God and accused of horrible things.

Prince was human so he was not perfection however, there is something called intergrity and care. Just because you have the right to do something does not mean you should do it. You have to weigh the costs. To use a tired old cliche - every action causes a reaction.

What has evolved is reaction to words from Mayte's book. Yes, she can say whatever she wants however she wants to whomever she wants. The thing is Prince did not just belong to her. He belonged to everyone and some of us are still very much in mourning-YES I said still.

For a woman who keeps saying she loves him it has been quite the surprise. If you love someone you care and protect them. She knew he was private, she knew he did not want to have details about the baby. Prince still has close family and friends still living and it is a betrayal of much of who Prince was when he was alive.

Yes she has the right but just because you have a right does not make it right. Loving something means you care and protect no matter what - everyone will see it differently but the dislike toward Mayte is because for many she was careless toward a man many hold very, very dear and it hurts.

Reply #385 posted 03/21/17 6:28pm

PennyPurple

awake4now said:

PennyPurple said:

I just don't get all the hate that is being thrown her way. Certain posters here are saying a lot of untrue things, just to be cruel. I don't think that's ok. I feel everyone has a story, and they should be able to tell it if they want to good, or bad. There is no need for the hate. Nobody is perfect.

.

There are plenty of posts with constructive criticisms and legitimate complaints about the book, its release, and promotion campaign as well. But some people conveniently dance around those statements or ignore those questions b/c it doesn't suit their narrative of "oh what a poor little victim, we should support the book no matter what."

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Constructive criticisms? or down right lies?

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,It almost sounds like she wanted to get rid of the child which I doubt was going to happen~Laura

Mayte probably wanted an abortion? Is that constructive criticism? NOPE.

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Their marriage was annulled? Constructive criticism? NOPE

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The baby has been referred to as an 'it'. Constructive criticism? NOPE

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C-Sections doesn't require you to go home with pain pills, so maybe it was Mayte who had the problem?? Constructive criticism? NOPE

Do you see the hate? Some have even went as far as saying they have the 'goods' on Mayte and they are just waiting to drop it. ?? HUH? These people are just making up flat out lies, all to tarnish Mayte or stop the publication of this book. It is insane the lengths people are going to. Totally insane.

Reply #386 posted 03/21/17 6:35pm

awake4now

PennyPurple said:

awake4now said:

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There are plenty of posts with constructive criticisms and legitimate complaints about the book, its release, and promotion campaign as well. But some people conveniently dance around those statements or ignore those questions b/c it doesn't suit their narrative of "oh what a poor little victim, we should support the book no matter what."

.

Constructive criticisms? or down right lies?

.

,It almost sounds like she wanted to get rid of the child which I doubt was going to happen~Laura

Mayte probably wanted an abortion? Is that constructive criticism? NOPE.

.

Their marriage was annulled? Constructive criticism? NOPE

.

The baby has been referred to as an 'it'. Constructive criticism? NOPE

.

C-Sections doesn't require you to go home with pain pills, so maybe it was Mayte who had the problem?? Constructive criticism? NOPE

Do you see the hate? Some have even went as far as saying they have the 'goods' on Mayte and they are just waiting to drop it. ?? HUH? These people are just making up flat out lies, all to tarnish Mayte or stop the publication of this book. It is insane the lengths people are going to. Totally insane.

.

And you just proved my point > Once again, avoiding challenging statements and cherry picking those statements that allow you to vent indignation on behalf of a particular narrative.

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Reply #387 posted 03/21/17 6:36pm

PennyPurple

Vashtix said:

PennyPurple said

I just don't get all the hate that is being thrown her way. Certain posters here are saying a lot of untrue things, just to be cruel. I don't think that's ok. I feel everyone has a story, and they should be able to tell it if they want to good, or bad. There is no need for the hate. Nobody is perfect.

People are hurt that she has appeared to try to say things about Prince in a indirect way about drug use, and messing with a minor,. It is offensive to me as a fan. I think people expected her to not diss him. He is being called everything but the child of God and accused of horrible things.

Prince was human so he was not perfection however, there is something called intergrity and care. Just because you have the right to do something does not mean you should do it. You have to weigh the costs. To use a tired old cliche - every action causes a reaction.

What has evolved is reaction to words from Mayte's book. Yes, she can say whatever she wants however she wants to whomever she wants. The thing is Prince did not just belong to her. He belonged to everyone and some of us are still very much in mourning-YES I said still.

For a woman who keeps saying she loves him it has been quite the surprise. If you love someone you care and protect them. She knew he was private, she knew he did not want to have details about the baby. Prince still has close family and friends still living and it is a betrayal of much of who Prince was when he was alive.

Yes she has the right but just because you have a right does not make it right. Loving something means you care and protect no matter what - everyone will see it differently but the dislike toward Mayte is because for many she was careless toward a man many hold very, very dear and it hurts.

To that bolded above....HUH? That's HER life, it's what she lived. If it is offensive to you as fan, how do you think she feels, as the person who had all of this happen to her?

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For goodness sakes, out of spite, he had someone throw the baby ashes in a fire, he didn't have Maytes feelings at heart when he did this, but it's all her fault because she put in the book what someone told her. Hell, wasn't Prince man enough to tell her himself? NO

Reply #388 posted 03/21/17 6:39pm

PennyPurple

awake4now said:

PennyPurple said:

Constructive criticisms? or down right lies?

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,It almost sounds like she wanted to get rid of the child which I doubt was going to happen~Laura

Mayte probably wanted an abortion? Is that constructive criticism? NOPE.

.

Their marriage was annulled? Constructive criticism? NOPE

.

The baby has been referred to as an 'it'. Constructive criticism? NOPE

.

C-Sections doesn't require you to go home with pain pills, so maybe it was Mayte who had the problem?? Constructive criticism? NOPE

Do you see the hate? Some have even went as far as saying they have the 'goods' on Mayte and they are just waiting to drop it. ?? HUH? These people are just making up flat out lies, all to tarnish Mayte or stop the publication of this book. It is insane the lengths people are going to. Totally insane.

.

And you just proved my point > Once again, avoiding challenging statements and cherry picking those statements that allow you to vent indignation on behalf of a particular narrative.

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disbelief hammer OMG.

Reply #389 posted 03/21/17 6:40pm

joytotheworld

Vashtix said:

PennyPurple said

I just don't get all the hate that is being thrown her way. Certain posters here are saying a lot of untrue things, just to be cruel. I don't think that's ok. I feel everyone has a story, and they should be able to tell it if they want to good, or bad. There is no need for the hate. Nobody is perfect.

People are hurt that she has appeared to try to say things about Prince in a indirect way about drug use, and messing with a minor,. It is offensive to me as a fan. I think people expected her to not diss him. He is being called everything but the child of God and accused of horrible things.

Prince was human so he was not perfection however, there is something called intergrity and care. Just because you have the right to do something does not mean you should do it. You have to weigh the costs. To use a tired old cliche - every action causes a reaction.

What has evolved is reaction to words from Mayte's book. Yes, she can say whatever she wants however she wants to whomever she wants. The thing is Prince did not just belong to her. He belonged to everyone and some of us are still very much in mourning-YES I said still.

For a woman who keeps saying she loves him it has been quite the surprise. If you love someone you care and protect them. She knew he was private, she knew he did not want to have details about the baby. Prince still has close family and friends still living and it is a betrayal of much of who Prince was when he was alive.

Yes she has the right but just because you have a right does not make it right. Loving something means you care and protect no matter what - everyone will see it differently but the dislike toward Mayte is because for many she was careless toward a man many hold very, very dear and it hurts.

You have read the book then? Please provide where she accused him of messing with a minor. What was printed and what I read did not appear to be indirect. I hve not read it yet, only excerpts and nothing appeared to be underhanded. I have purchased the book and additional copies for friends. Everyone knows that Prince liked them young that has nothing to do with Mayte other than she was in the age group he liked. Prince brought that on himself. Prince is dead and he can't always control people.

His family had opportunity to see her on at least two occasions and if would seem that the subject was broached concerning the book. Do you really think the book came as a surprise to them? Oh surprise, Nelson family. I would venture to say that out of respect and love she made them aware. I do not sell her short. Perhaps what she has to say will shed more light on their HISTORY. They had to live it and while it started out happily, it did not end that way. There appears to be no empathy or compassion for either of them. Just the pettiness of tearing the book apart and the author.

Speaking of actions, if some of the orgers are taking the book's contents personally that is on them, not Mayte. That doesnt make the hate ok just cuz some people dont like what she wrote.

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Reply #390 posted 03/21/17 6:45pm

Misslink88

PennyPurple said:

Vashtix said:

People are hurt that she has appeared to try to say things about Prince in a indirect way about drug use, and messing with a minor,. It is offensive to me as a fan. I think people expected her to not diss him. He is being called everything but the child of God and accused of horrible things.

Prince was human so he was not perfection however, there is something called intergrity and care. Just because you have the right to do something does not mean you should do it. You have to weigh the costs. To use a tired old cliche - every action causes a reaction.

What has evolved is reaction to words from Mayte's book. Yes, she can say whatever she wants however she wants to whomever she wants. The thing is Prince did not just belong to her. He belonged to everyone and some of us are still very much in mourning-YES I said still.

For a woman who keeps saying she loves him it has been quite the surprise. If you love someone you care and protect them. She knew he was private, she knew he did not want to have details about the baby. Prince still has close family and friends still living and it is a betrayal of much of who Prince was when he was alive.

Yes she has the right but just because you have a right does not make it right. Loving something means you care and protect no matter what - everyone will see it differently but the dislike toward Mayte is because for many she was careless toward a man many hold very, very dear and it hurts.

To that bolded above....HUH? That's HER life, it's what she lived. If it is offensive to you as fan, how do you think she feels, as the person who had all of this happen to her?

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For goodness sakes, out of spite, he had someone throw the baby ashes in a fire, he didn't have Maytes feelings at heart when he did this, but it's all her fault because she put in the book what someone told her. Hell, wasn't Prince man enough to tell her himself? NO

Hold on a second. Nothing happened "to" her. She volunteered by sending an audition tape. She lived the life on the road and then she married him. None of the photos I've seen have ever had a gun to her head. If it was happening "to" her and it was a problem, she should have addressed it then. As for what someone told her happened to the baby's ashes, she should have gotten a confirmation that it did happened and then put it in the book. Who knows what agenda the person who told her had for telling her that.

God is my Sugar Daddy.
Reply #391 posted 03/21/17 6:45pm

Mumio

PennyPurple said:

awake4now said:

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There are plenty of posts with constructive criticisms and legitimate complaints about the book, its release, and promotion campaign as well. But some people conveniently dance around those statements or ignore those questions b/c it doesn't suit their narrative of "oh what a poor little victim, we should support the book no matter what."

.

Constructive criticisms? or down right lies?

.

,It almost sounds like she wanted to get rid of the child which I doubt was going to happen~Laura

Mayte probably wanted an abortion? Is that constructive criticism? NOPE.

.

Their marriage was annulled? Constructive criticism? NOPE

.

The baby has been referred to as an 'it'. Constructive criticism? NOPE

.

C-Sections doesn't require you to go home with pain pills, so maybe it was Mayte who had the problem?? Constructive criticism? NOPE

Do you see the hate? Some have even went as far as saying they have the 'goods' on Mayte and they are just waiting to drop it. ?? HUH? These people are just making up flat out lies, all to tarnish Mayte or stop the publication of this book. It is insane the lengths people are going to. Totally insane.


You can say it just because you want to say it, but you do not know for a fact that any of the 'goods' you are referring to are flat out lies. Or have you seen the 'goods' yet? Your comment indicates you have not but maybe I am misunderstanding what you said? We're just gonna have to wait and see what's coming. I'm a Prince fan first and will always give him the benefit of the doubt before any of his women. That's just how it is.

Reply #392 posted 03/21/17 6:50pm

Mumio

Vashtix said:

People are hurt that she has appeared to try to say things about Prince in a indirect way about drug use, and messing with a minor,. It is offensive to me as a fan. I think people expected her to not diss him. He is being called everything but the child of God and accused of horrible things.

Prince was human so he was not perfection however, there is something called intergrity and care. Just because you have the right to do something does not mean you should do it. You have to weigh the costs. To use a tired old cliche - every action causes a reaction.

What has evolved is reaction to words from Mayte's book. Yes, she can say whatever she wants however she wants to whomever she wants. The thing is Prince did not just belong to her. He belonged to everyone and some of us are still very much in mourning-YES I said still.

For a woman who keeps saying she loves him it has been quite the surprise. If you love someone you care and protect them. She knew he was private, she knew he did not want to have details about the baby. Prince still has close family and friends still living and it is a betrayal of much of who Prince was when he was alive.

Yes she has the right but just because you have a right does not make it right. Loving something means you care and protect no matter what - everyone will see it differently but the dislike toward Mayte is because for many she was careless toward a man many hold very, very dear and it hurts.


nod Excellent Vashtix, you captured much of what I'd express myself. Thank you.

Reply #393 posted 03/21/17 6:53pm

laurarichardson

lavie said:

 



laurarichardson said:


We all know there was no anullment. It is Prince and Mayte that put that out no one ever belived because it is not possible. In his mind he may felt that the marriage was annulled but not legally.


However, it you look in the Carver County court records you will find a l ist of the court proceedings for M2 divorce despite the sealing. You will find one traffic ticket for Prince, You will find a judgement, you will find real estate transactions, You can even find some trouble that John and Duane got into but you do not see one bit of information about guardianship or divorce from M1. Very strange because even if she did not contest the divorce their should be a listing.



disch said:


Guys, there was no legal annulment. Here's the exact situations in Minnesota that allow for annulment (they're very limited, and it's pretty clear that none apply to P & M's marriage): http://www.mncourts.gov/Help-Topics/Annulment-and-Legal-Separation.aspx


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Now, he might have meant "annulment" in some spiritual sense, but legally? No.


 



 



 


 


Maybe no annulment and maybe no divorce either as it is entirely possible there was never a legal marriage to begin with.  Could explain why she didn't get much besides the house in Espana and also why nobody can seem to find a record of the divorce as even if sealed (as in the case of Manuela), you'd still be able to see there was a divorce.


 


I am reminded of that time, remember when Eddie Murphy got "married" to Tracey Edmonds?  They had this ceremony and it was featured in magazines and stuff and 14 days later, they called it quits.  It turned out it, the wedding ceremony was just for show and not legal and when the relationship was over, they simply moved on their merry ways.  


 


Anyway, doesn't really matter because Prince did legally marry someone else subsequent to their split.

[Edited 3/21/17 15:33pm]


You maybe on to something. Was he even legally married to her. I know their is a rumor that the marriage certifcate was not signed by him. What slick move did he make to be divorced twice within a decade and walk with his pocket still full.
Reply #394 posted 03/21/17 6:57pm

laurarichardson

PennyPurple said:

 



awake4now said:


 



PennyPurple said:


 


I just don't get all the hate that is being thrown her way. Certain posters here are saying a lot of untrue things, just to be cruel. I don't think that's ok. I feel everyone has a story, and they should be able to tell it if they want to good, or bad. There is no need for the hate. Nobody is perfect.



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There are plenty of posts with constructive criticisms and legitimate complaints about the book, its release, and promotion campaign as well. But some people conveniently dance around those statements or ignore those questions b/c it doesn't suit their narrative of "oh what a poor little victim, we should support the book no matter what."


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Constructive criticisms? or down right lies?


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,It almost sounds like she wanted to get rid of the child which I doubt was going to happen~Laura


Mayte probably wanted  an abortion? Is that constructive criticism? NOPE.


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Their marriage was annulled? Constructive criticism? NOPE


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The baby has been referred to as an 'it'. Constructive criticism? NOPE


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C-Sections doesn't require you to go home with pain pills, so maybe it was Mayte who had the problem?? Constructive criticism? NOPE


 


Do you see the hate? Some have even went as far as saying they have the 'goods' on Mayte and they are just waiting to drop it. ?? HUH? These people are just making up flat out lies, all to tarnish Mayte or stop the publication of this book. It is insane the lengths people are going to. Totally insane.


 


 


 


Sorry Matye is the one carrying on about that test as if that would have made a difference which it would not have what would her choice have been if she knew about the birth defect before hand. Why even go there?
Reply #395 posted 03/21/17 6:57pm

PennyPurple

And here we go, speculation that they weren't even married.....

Reply #396 posted 03/21/17 7:00pm

206Michelle

PennyPurple said:

Vashtix said:

The questions people are asking are valid ; Mayte writing the book and including information she has opened the door for inquiry and people delving back into what has been documented by Mayte herself.

The public is not dumb. People and podcasts and other mags can act like they have a scoop but Mayte has been around and even did a reality TV show.

I would think a decent interviewer would have looked back at things document during that era and asked the questions some people are asking now but they seem to just want a sensational, defaming Prince story.

Let's face it. Prince hasn't always been truthful. I'm not saying he's a liar, I'm saying he'd say anything to get out of telling the public anything about his life, and when he did tell us something it was always in 'code'. I say he skirted around the truth quite a bit. So on one hand you can say 'well Mayte said this 20 years ago, but now she is saying this'. She was schooled and groomed by Prince, he taught her well how to skirt around issues.

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And another thing, I don't see things like I did 20 years ago. We grow, we change, my opinioins aren't the same as they were 20 years ago. Life happens and those life happenings change peoples views.

yes yes to what I bolded, PennyPurple, those are my thoughts exactly.

Don't die without knowing the cross.
Reply #397 posted 03/21/17 7:02pm

PennyPurple

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

Constructive criticisms? or down right lies?

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,It almost sounds like she wanted to get rid of the child which I doubt was going to happen~Laura

Mayte probably wanted an abortion? Is that constructive criticism? NOPE.

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Their marriage was annulled? Constructive criticism? NOPE

.

The baby has been referred to as an 'it'. Constructive criticism? NOPE

.

C-Sections doesn't require you to go home with pain pills, so maybe it was Mayte who had the problem?? Constructive criticism? NOPE

Do you see the hate? Some have even went as far as saying they have the 'goods' on Mayte and they are just waiting to drop it. ?? HUH? These people are just making up flat out lies, all to tarnish Mayte or stop the publication of this book. It is insane the lengths people are going to. Totally insane.

Sorry Matye is the one carrying on about that test as if that would have made a difference which it would not have what would her choice have been if she knew about the birth defect before hand. Why even go there?

The test itself would not have fixed anything. Having the test would have told them exactly what they were dealing with, so they could've been prepared, instead of being 'horrified' by what they saw because they weren't expecting it. The Drs. thought the baby was going to be a dwarf, they both said there would be no problem with that, they didn't expect the baby to have severe health problems that were deadly.

Reply #398 posted 03/21/17 7:03pm

Purplestar88

PennyPurple said:

awake4now said:

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There are plenty of posts with constructive criticisms and legitimate complaints about the book, its release, and promotion campaign as well. But some people conveniently dance around those statements or ignore those questions b/c it doesn't suit their narrative of "oh what a poor little victim, we should support the book no matter what."

.

Constructive criticisms? or down right lies?

.

,It almost sounds like she wanted to get rid of the child which I doubt was going to happen~Laura

Mayte probably wanted an abortion? Is that constructive criticism? NOPE.

.

Their marriage was annulled? Constructive criticism? NOPE

.

The baby has been referred to as an 'it'. Constructive criticism? NOPE

.

C-Sections doesn't require you to go home with pain pills, so maybe it was Mayte who had the problem?? Constructive criticism? NOPE

Do you see the hate? Some have even went as far as saying they have the 'goods' on Mayte and they are just waiting to drop it. ?? HUH? These people are just making up flat out lies, all to tarnish Mayte or stop the publication of this book. It is insane the lengths people are going to. Totally insane.

I feel people are expressing their opinions and impression of the book so far. She is not above criticism and no one can stop the book. The book is like any work of art. It will get criticism and praise. If she telling the truth, she should stand by it and not worry anout what people have to say about it. So far the media is not demonizing her so why are people acting opinions that are disproving is going to affect her bottom line.

Reply #399 posted 03/21/17 7:04pm

precioux

laurarichardson said:

precioux said:

 



laurarichardson said:


BillieBalloon said:
Do you believe Mayte never had an NDA? A l8nk has been posted from an interview where she states she cant say much because of a confidentiality agreement. Its straight from the horses mouth. As for the annullment, why would Prince say the marriage was annulled if it wasnt? The marriage was annulled but on what grounds we dont know. Yes, she denies it but Prince says it happened. You choose to believe Mayte over Prince, go ahead. Lets see what the book says.

Why am not surprised by the link. For the longest time she said nothing to refrute the annulment nonsense and now I wonder if the house was not a part of the NDA.

"For the longest time she said nothing to refute the annulment nonsense..."

I posted the link, to back my words up....the interview was from 2013, so exactly how does "for the longest time she said nothing to refute the annulment" play into your statement


--From so she said nothing from 2000 to 2013 and that is not a long time to you. ?



Lol...you're so transparent that I can determine ahead of time what your next "comeback" will be...and I was correct in my thinking.

1.Mayte addressed the annulment 4 years ago..4 years is a long time in my book...

2.Why don't you post a "receipt" as I did, and show me where Mayte was ever questioned or interviewed between 2000 & 2013 and admitted to the annulment
Reply #400 posted 03/21/17 7:05pm

PennyPurple

Purplestar88 said:

PennyPurple said:

Constructive criticisms? or down right lies?

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,It almost sounds like she wanted to get rid of the child which I doubt was going to happen~Laura

Mayte probably wanted an abortion? Is that constructive criticism? NOPE.

.

Their marriage was annulled? Constructive criticism? NOPE

.

The baby has been referred to as an 'it'. Constructive criticism? NOPE

.

C-Sections doesn't require you to go home with pain pills, so maybe it was Mayte who had the problem?? Constructive criticism? NOPE

Do you see the hate? Some have even went as far as saying they have the 'goods' on Mayte and they are just waiting to drop it. ?? HUH? These people are just making up flat out lies, all to tarnish Mayte or stop the publication of this book. It is insane the lengths people are going to. Totally insane.

I feel people are expressing their opinions and impression of the book so far. She is not above criticism and no one can stop the book. The book is like any work of art. It will get criticism and praise. If she telling the truth, she should stand by it and not worry anout what people have to say about it. So far the media is not demonizing her so why are people acting opinions that are disproving is going to affect her bottom line.

The book isn't even out. Nobody has read the book yet. I've got the book on order. When I read it, and I find that any of my impressions were wrong, I'll gladly let ya'll know.

You are right, nobody on this Earth is above criticism, but character assassination over a book that hasn't even been read yet, is a bit to much. Let's wait and see for ourselves what is in that book.

[Edited 3/21/17 19:11pm]

Reply #401 posted 03/21/17 7:06pm

joytotheworld

Misslink88 said:

PennyPurple said:

To that bolded above....HUH? That's HER life, it's what she lived. If it is offensive to you as fan, how do you think she feels, as the person who had all of this happen to her?

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For goodness sakes, out of spite, he had someone throw the baby ashes in a fire, he didn't have Maytes feelings at heart when he did this, but it's all her fault because she put in the book what someone told her. Hell, wasn't Prince man enough to tell her himself? NO

Hold on a second. Nothing happened "to" her. She volunteered by sending an audition tape. She lived the life on the road and then she married him. None of the photos I've seen have ever had a gun to her head. If it was happening "to" her and it was a problem, she should have addressed it then. As for what someone told her happened to the baby's ashes, she should have gotten a confirmation that it did happened and then put it in the book. Who knows what agenda the person who told her had for telling her that.

Perhaps she did address what was perceived as a problem? Do you know that she didnt?

Reply #402 posted 03/21/17 7:06pm

206Michelle

Misslink88 said:

PennyPurple said:

To that bolded above....HUH? That's HER life, it's what she lived. If it is offensive to you as fan, how do you think she feels, as the person who had all of this happen to her?

.

For goodness sakes, out of spite, he had someone throw the baby ashes in a fire, he didn't have Maytes feelings at heart when he did this, but it's all her fault because she put in the book what someone told her. Hell, wasn't Prince man enough to tell her himself? NO

Hold on a second. Nothing happened "to" her. She volunteered by sending an audition tape. She lived the life on the road and then she married him. None of the photos I've seen have ever had a gun to her head. If it was happening "to" her and it was a problem, she should have addressed it then. As for what someone told her happened to the baby's ashes, she should have gotten a confirmation that it did happened and then put it in the book. Who knows what agenda the person who told her had for telling her that.

Maybe there is information about what happened to Amiir's ashes in the book. But we wouldn't know that because the book hasn't been released yet.

Don't die without knowing the cross.
Reply #403 posted 03/21/17 7:08pm

Vashtix

Mumio said:

Vashtix said:

People are hurt that she has appeared to try to say things about Prince in a indirect way about drug use, and messing with a minor,. It is offensive to me as a fan. I think people expected her to not diss him. He is being called everything but the child of God and accused of horrible things.

Prince was human so he was not perfection however, there is something called intergrity and care. Just because you have the right to do something does not mean you should do it. You have to weigh the costs. To use a tired old cliche - every action causes a reaction.

What has evolved is reaction to words from Mayte's book. Yes, she can say whatever she wants however she wants to whomever she wants. The thing is Prince did not just belong to her. He belonged to everyone and some of us are still very much in mourning-YES I said still.

For a woman who keeps saying she loves him it has been quite the surprise. If you love someone you care and protect them. She knew he was private, she knew he did not want to have details about the baby. Prince still has close family and friends still living and it is a betrayal of much of who Prince was when he was alive.

Yes she has the right but just because you have a right does not make it right. Loving something means you care and protect no matter what - everyone will see it differently but the dislike toward Mayte is because for many she was careless toward a man many hold very, very dear and it hurts.


nod Excellent Vashtix, you captured much of what I'd express myself. Thank you.

NP and thank you.

Reply #404 posted 03/21/17 7:12pm

disch

I second all this. I'm completely confused by people sneering that Mayte said one thing 20 years ago and is saying something else now. Hell, 20 years ago Prince himself said to Oprah that all was well with his baby as he showed off the nursery, even thought the baby had already passed away. And that's not the only example of his preference for circuitous or hazy communication, which I think Mayte adapted at the time. (And I'm not some "fan" of Mayte; I just don't see her as having said anything so far that strikes me as some outlandish lie, and I don't think I know more about her life with Prince than she does).

206Michelle said:

PennyPurple said:

Let's face it. Prince hasn't always been truthful. I'm not saying he's a liar, I'm saying he'd say anything to get out of telling the public anything about his life, and when he did tell us something it was always in 'code'. I say he skirted around the truth quite a bit. So on one hand you can say 'well Mayte said this 20 years ago, but now she is saying this'. She was schooled and groomed by Prince, he taught her well how to skirt around issues.

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And another thing, I don't see things like I did 20 years ago. We grow, we change, my opinioins aren't the same as they were 20 years ago. Life happens and those life happenings change peoples views.

yes yes to what I bolded, PennyPurple, those are my thoughts exactly.

Reply #405 posted 03/21/17 7:15pm

PennyPurple

206Michelle said:

PennyPurple said:

Let's face it. Prince hasn't always been truthful. I'm not saying he's a liar, I'm saying he'd say anything to get out of telling the public anything about his life, and when he did tell us something it was always in 'code'. I say he skirted around the truth quite a bit. So on one hand you can say 'well Mayte said this 20 years ago, but now she is saying this'. She was schooled and groomed by Prince, he taught her well how to skirt around issues.

.

And another thing, I don't see things like I did 20 years ago. We grow, we change, my opinioins aren't the same as they were 20 years ago. Life happens and those life happenings change peoples views.

yes yes to what I bolded, PennyPurple, those are my thoughts exactly.

hug

Reply #406 posted 03/21/17 7:15pm

Vashtix

PennyPurple said:

Vashtix said:

People are hurt that she has appeared to try to say things about Prince in a indirect way about drug use, and messing with a minor,. It is offensive to me as a fan. I think people expected her to not diss him. He is being called everything but the child of God and accused of horrible things.

Prince was human so he was not perfection however, there is something called intergrity and care. Just because you have the right to do something does not mean you should do it. You have to weigh the costs. To use a tired old cliche - every action causes a reaction.

What has evolved is reaction to words from Mayte's book. Yes, she can say whatever she wants however she wants to whomever she wants. The thing is Prince did not just belong to her. He belonged to everyone and some of us are still very much in mourning-YES I said still.

For a woman who keeps saying she loves him it has been quite the surprise. If you love someone you care and protect them. She knew he was private, she knew he did not want to have details about the baby. Prince still has close family and friends still living and it is a betrayal of much of who Prince was when he was alive.

Yes she has the right but just because you have a right does not make it right. Loving something means you care and protect no matter what - everyone will see it differently but the dislike toward Mayte is because for many she was careless toward a man many hold very, very dear and it hurts.

To that bolded above....HUH? That's HER life, it's what she lived. If it is offensive to you as fan, how do you think she feels, as the person who had all of this happen to her?

.

For goodness sakes, out of spite, he had someone throw the baby ashes in a fire, he didn't have Maytes feelings at heart when he did this, but it's all her fault because she put in the book what someone told her. Hell, wasn't Prince man enough to tell her himself? NO

I am not addressing her feelings. I was addressing why I feel there is turmoil and people are not appreciative of book. I cannot discuss her feelings right now because I do not have words or the mindset to do so in a way that would not offend.

Reply #407 posted 03/21/17 7:23pm

Purplestar88

PennyPurple said:

Purplestar88 said:

I feel people are expressing their opinions and impression of the book so far. She is not above criticism and no one can stop the book. The book is like any work of art. It will get criticism and praise. If she telling the truth, she should stand by it and not worry anout what people have to say about it. So far the media is not demonizing her so why are people acting opinions that are disproving is going to affect her bottom line.

The book isn't even out. Nobody has read the book yet. I've got the book on order. When I read it, and I find that any of my impressions were wrong, I'll gladly let ya'll know.

I think that's fair. Read the book and see what is your impression is. The book is not out yet but some of the details are out. Disproving opinions is not going to affect her bottom line. She has to take responsibility for her actions and the problems/issue she had with Prince. One thing I know is she not an angel or a victim.

Reply #408 posted 03/21/17 7:29pm

PennyPurple

Purplestar88 said:

PennyPurple said:

The book isn't even out. Nobody has read the book yet. I've got the book on order. When I read it, and I find that any of my impressions were wrong, I'll gladly let ya'll know.

I think that's fair. Read the book and see what is your impression is. The book is not out yet but some of the details are out. Disproving opinions is not going to affect her bottom line. She has to take responsibility for her actions and the problems/issue she had with Prince. One thing I know is she not an angel or a victim.

See even the press isn't saying the same thing. People Magazine writes one thing online and in print they write something totally different. I have that magazine in my hands, what they said online, is not in print. Even the press can't get it right.

No she isn't an angel, but I'm not going to say she wasn't a victim, Imma gonna wait for the book.

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I just think that some of these posts have really went overboard.

Reply #409 posted 03/21/17 7:38pm

Vashtix

joytotheworld said:

Vashtix said:

People are hurt that she has appeared to try to say things about Prince in a indirect way about drug use, and messing with a minor,. It is offensive to me as a fan. I think people expected her to not diss him. He is being called everything but the child of God and accused of horrible things.

Prince was human so he was not perfection however, there is something called intergrity and care. Just because you have the right to do something does not mean you should do it. You have to weigh the costs. To use a tired old cliche - every action causes a reaction.

What has evolved is reaction to words from Mayte's book. Yes, she can say whatever she wants however she wants to whomever she wants. The thing is Prince did not just belong to her. He belonged to everyone and some of us are still very much in mourning-YES I said still.

For a woman who keeps saying she loves him it has been quite the surprise. If you love someone you care and protect them. She knew he was private, she knew he did not want to have details about the baby. Prince still has close family and friends still living and it is a betrayal of much of who Prince was when he was alive.

Yes she has the right but just because you have a right does not make it right. Loving something means you care and protect no matter what - everyone will see it differently but the dislike toward Mayte is because for many she was careless toward a man many hold very, very dear and it hurts.

You have read the book then? Please provide where she accused him of messing with a minor. What was printed and what I read did not appear to be indirect. I hve not read it yet, only excerpts and nothing appeared to be underhanded. I have purchased the book and additional copies for friends. Everyone knows that Prince liked them young that has nothing to do with Mayte other than she was in the age group he liked. Prince brought that on himself. Prince is dead and he can't always control people.

His family had opportunity to see her on at least two occasions and if would seem that the subject was broached concerning the book. Do you really think the book came as a surprise to them? Oh surprise, Nelson family. I would venture to say that out of respect and love she made them aware. I do not sell her short. Perhaps what she has to say will shed more light on their HISTORY. They had to live it and while it started out happily, it did not end that way. There appears to be no empathy or compassion for either of them. Just the pettiness of tearing the book apart and the author.

Speaking of actions, if some of the orgers are taking the book's contents personally that is on them, not Mayte. That doesnt make the hate ok just cuz some people dont like what she wrote.

[Edited 3/21/17 19:03pm]

I was speaking on why there is dislike for the book. It is my opinion on why there is a negative wind rising about the book. I said she has a right but it does not make it right. It is hurting many people. That is valid.

Anything that is put out in the universe will effect others- none of us are an island. We are indeed our brother's keepers and should take more care for one another I think; not doing so to me is being short sighted and selfish. Please note- I said to me.

Of course the choice is an individual one; you choose how you treat and value your fellow man by how you personally handle being your brother's keeper. It is everyone's individual choice.

Reply #410 posted 03/21/17 7:53pm

Purplestar88

PennyPurple said:

Purplestar88 said:

I think that's fair. Read the book and see what is your impression is. The book is not out yet but some of the details are out. Disproving opinions is not going to affect her bottom line. She has to take responsibility for her actions and the problems/issue she had with Prince. One thing I know is she not an angel or a victim.

See even the press isn't saying the same thing. People Magazine writes one thing online and in print they write something totally different. I have that magazine in my hands, what they said online, is not in print. Even the press can't get it right.

No she isn't an angel, but I'm not going to say she wasn't a victim, Imma gonna wait for the book.

.

I just think that some of these posts have really went overboard.

I don't know how she could be a victim when she put a tattoo of his symbol on her arm and went to some of events after his death. This is not the actions of someone who felt she was victimized in anyway.

[Edited 3/21/17 19:56pm]

Reply #411 posted 03/21/17 8:00pm

SpookyNopetopus

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

Constructive criticisms? or down right lies?

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,It almost sounds like she wanted to get rid of the child which I doubt was going to happen~Laura

Mayte probably wanted an abortion? Is that constructive criticism? NOPE.

.

Their marriage was annulled? Constructive criticism? NOPE

.

The baby has been referred to as an 'it'. Constructive criticism? NOPE

.

C-Sections doesn't require you to go home with pain pills, so maybe it was Mayte who had the problem?? Constructive criticism? NOPE

Do you see the hate? Some have even went as far as saying they have the 'goods' on Mayte and they are just waiting to drop it. ?? HUH? These people are just making up flat out lies, all to tarnish Mayte or stop the publication of this book. It is insane the lengths people are going to. Totally insane.

Sorry Matye is the one carrying on about that test as if that would have made a difference which it would not have what would her choice have been if she knew about the birth defect before hand. Why even go there?

I don't know, I would have wanted some forewarning of what was going on with my child -- having seen a picture of the particular syndrome this poor child had, I can totally get being horrified. I mean, my heart dropped to my toes just seeing the picture. It was frightening, and heartbreaking. I coudln't look for more than a second. Not in the 'horror movie' aspect, but in the 'oh my god, what's happening, what do I do, I don't know what is going to happen to my baby OH MY GOD.' I also would have wanted to be educated on what to expect, what could I possibly do to help make him more comfortable, whatever else might go on.

I'd totally freak out, because this is a completely unexpected, heartbreaking thing to see.

I totally get having faith and all, and I totally get wanting to know so that, well, you KNOW.

Maybe you wouldn't want to know beforehand, but don't expect every other person to not want to know. Just on a human basis.

I imagine myself inside your bedroom; oh, I imagine myself in your sky.
kitty cop
Reply #412 posted 03/21/17 8:01pm

lavie

Purplestar88 said:

PennyPurple said:

See even the press isn't saying the same thing. People Magazine writes one thing online and in print they write something totally different. I have that magazine in my hands, what they said online, is not in print. Even the press can't get it right.

No she isn't an angel, but I'm not going to say she wasn't a victim, Imma gonna wait for the book.

.

I just think that some of these posts have really went overboard.

I don't know how she could be a victim when she put a tattoo of his symbol on her arm and went to some of events after his death. This is not the actions of someone who felt she was victimized in anyway.

[Edited 3/21/17 19:56pm]

100% right there. On top of that, she said on social media that in her mind she is still married to Prince!

Have U had your + today?
Reply #413 posted 03/21/17 8:08pm

Menes

Purplestar88 said:

PennyPurple said:

See even the press isn't saying the same thing. People Magazine writes one thing online and in print they write something totally different. I have that magazine in my hands, what they said online, is not in print. Even the press can't get it right.

No she isn't an angel, but I'm not going to say she wasn't a victim, Imma gonna wait for the book.

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I just think that some of these posts have really went overboard.

I don't know how she could be a victim when she put a tattoo of his symbol on her arm and went to some of events after his death. This is not the actions of someone who felt she by victimize in anyway.

Yea, lots of women would have traded places with her to be the "victim". If she was duped , tricked, or, harmed in the sense of a crime , by some "otherworldy" event , we would've heard about that one by now. It's an opinion shared by some about the possibllitiy that she could be a "victim" as demonstrated right now. So it is the same when some of us would be willing to say that Mayte was manipulative and cunning when writing this book ? Futhermore, she could be deemed incredulous since she wouldn't make these claimes while he was alive. At least not for money and in such a public way. You're no different by inserting your opinion in a negative way by using the word, "victim". Better yet, why don't you explain what you mean by "victim". Clear that up for us since you were so bold enough to state it. How was she victimized?

Reply #414 posted 03/21/17 8:11pm

lavie

laurarichardson said:

lavie said:

Maybe no annulment and maybe no divorce either as it is entirely possible there was never a legal marriage to begin with. Could explain why she didn't get much besides the house in Espana and also why nobody can seem to find a record of the divorce as even if sealed (as in the case of Manuela), you'd still be able to see there was a divorce.

I am reminded of that time, remember when Eddie Murphy got "married" to Tracey Edmonds? They had this ceremony and it was featured in magazines and stuff and 14 days later, they called it quits. It turned out it, the wedding ceremony was just for show and not legal and when the relationship was over, they simply moved on their merry ways.

Anyway, doesn't really matter because Prince did legally marry someone else subsequent to their split.

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You maybe on to something. Was he even legally married to her. I know their is a rumor that the marriage certifcate was not signed by him. What slick move did he make to be divorced twice within a decade and walk with his pocket still full.

He was a crafty muthaf--- lol

Have U had your + today?
Reply #415 posted 03/21/17 8:13pm

joytotheworld

Vashtix said:

joytotheworld said:

You have read the book then? Please provide where she accused him of messing with a minor. What was printed and what I read did not appear to be indirect. I hve not read it yet, only excerpts and nothing appeared to be underhanded. I have purchased the book and additional copies for friends. Everyone knows that Prince liked them young that has nothing to do with Mayte other than she was in the age group he liked. Prince brought that on himself. Prince is dead and he can't always control people.

His family had opportunity to see her on at least two occasions and if would seem that the subject was broached concerning the book. Do you really think the book came as a surprise to them? Oh surprise, Nelson family. I would venture to say that out of respect and love she made them aware. I do not sell her short. Perhaps what she has to say will shed more light on their HISTORY. They had to live it and while it started out happily, it did not end that way. There appears to be no empathy or compassion for either of them. Just the pettiness of tearing the book apart and the author.

Speaking of actions, if some of the orgers are taking the book's contents personally that is on them, not Mayte. That doesnt make the hate ok just cuz some people dont like what she wrote.

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I was speaking on why there is dislike for the book. It is my opinion on why there is a negative wind rising about the book. I said she has a right but it does not make it right. It is hurting many people. That is valid.

Anything that is put out in the universe will effect others- none of us are an island. We are indeed our brother's keepers and should take more care for one another I think; not doing so to me is being short sighted and selfish. Please note- I said to me.

Of course the choice is an individual one; you choose how you treat and value your fellow man by how you personally handle being your brother's keeper. It is everyone's individual choice.

Yes, I agree with your philosophy on treating others unfortunately not everyone does as you know. I do not think that Prince treated and valued Mayte in the end regardless of the circumstances. I believe he was selfish and think he tried to make up for some of his earlier negative actions with people in his past during the last few years of his life. A womanizer is not a good thing by any means or being unfaithful when married. It seems that was well known and he didnt care that it was known, but that doesnt make it right cuz he didnt care who knew it. As you are aware, not everyone thinksthe book is a negative. It is a small drop in a very big pond and will be forgotten about when the next associate's book is published or when the DEA has something to say about the investigation.

Reply #416 posted 03/21/17 8:24pm

kmama07

annalizer said:

disch said:

FYI "annulment" as a legal matter is pretty limited; it really only applies to situations where there was fraud involved (for example one spouse was still married to someone else).


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Despite what Prince said, what he and Mayte did was "divorce."



annalizer said:


Menes said:

 


I'm still trying to wrap my noggin around why the marriage was annuled? Was it a religious annulment? I know some catholics who have engaged in the practice of such. Seems like right after the miscarriage, things went south quite quickly. 3 years of marriage- 2 unfortunate incidents, and wham! Annuled.



Yeah. It was quick. The annulment could have been a legal (financial)matter and in consistent Prince patterns, he might like/love you, but half? I don't think so.

 


I don't know anything about annulments,but why Prince & Mayte kept referring to it and then an actual divorce is strange.
Not any stranger than the two of them on the Oprah Winfrey show ( AFTER their son died ) pretending their son was alive...
Reply #417 posted 03/21/17 8:25pm

TurnItUp

Vashtix said:

PennyPurple said

I just don't get all the hate that is being thrown her way. Certain posters here are saying a lot of untrue things, just to be cruel. I don't think that's ok. I feel everyone has a story, and they should be able to tell it if they want to good, or bad. There is no need for the hate. Nobody is perfect.

People are hurt that she has appeared to try to say things about Prince in a indirect way about drug use, and messing with a minor,. It is offensive to me as a fan. I think people expected her to not diss him. He is being called everything but the child of God and accused of horrible things.

Prince was human so he was not perfection however, there is something called intergrity and care. Just because you have the right to do something does not mean you should do it. You have to weigh the costs. To use a tired old cliche - every action causes a reaction.

What has evolved is reaction to words from Mayte's book. Yes, she can say whatever she wants however she wants to whomever she wants. The thing is Prince did not just belong to her. He belonged to everyone and some of us are still very much in mourning-YES I said still.

For a woman who keeps saying she loves him it has been quite the surprise. If you love someone you care and protect them. She knew he was private, she knew he did not want to have details about the baby. Prince still has close family and friends still living and it is a betrayal of much of who Prince was when he was alive.

Yes she has the right but just because you have a right does not make it right. Loving something means you care and protect no matter what - everyone will see it differently but the dislike toward Mayte is because for many she was careless toward a man many hold very, very dear and it hurts.

Who cares if it's offensive to you. Who are you? We're all fans here. We're gonna hear stuff about him now that he's gone. Instead of concentrating on Mayte's book. Concentrate on his legacy which is THE MUSIC. If Mayte wants to tell her story she can. You weren't his wife. She was. Now because comments like this I'm ready for the book to come out and I HOPE it's a bestseller.

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Reply #418 posted 03/21/17 8:25pm

Menes

lavie said:

Purplestar88 said:

I don't know how she could be a victim when she put a tattoo of his symbol on her arm and went to some of events after his death. This is not the actions of someone who felt she was victimized in anyway.

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100% right there. On top of that, she said on social media that in her mind she is still married to Prince!

"In her mind" , she feels slighted . Still harping about the man 20 years later . Poor thing has been a mess since Larry laid hands on Prince and took away all her dreams.

Reply #419 posted 03/21/17 8:34pm

annalizer

Menes said:

 



lavie said:


 



Purplestar88 said:


 


I don't know how she could be a victim when she put a tattoo of his symbol on her arm and went to some of events after his death. This is not the actions of someone who felt she was victimized in anyway.


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100% right there.  On top of that, she said on social media that in her mind she is still married to Prince!    


 


 



"In her mind" , she feels slighted . Still harping about the man 20 years later . Poor thing has been a mess since Larry laid hands on Prince and took away all her dreams.



"Laid hands on"😆 you're a mess!
Reply #420 posted 03/21/17 8:36pm

joytotheworld

TurnItUp said:

Vashtix said:

People are hurt that she has appeared to try to say things about Prince in a indirect way about drug use, and messing with a minor,. It is offensive to me as a fan. I think people expected her to not diss him. He is being called everything but the child of God and accused of horrible things.

Prince was human so he was not perfection however, there is something called intergrity and care. Just because you have the right to do something does not mean you should do it. You have to weigh the costs. To use a tired old cliche - every action causes a reaction.

What has evolved is reaction to words from Mayte's book. Yes, she can say whatever she wants however she wants to whomever she wants. The thing is Prince did not just belong to her. He belonged to everyone and some of us are still very much in mourning-YES I said still.

For a woman who keeps saying she loves him it has been quite the surprise. If you love someone you care and protect them. She knew he was private, she knew he did not want to have details about the baby. Prince still has close family and friends still living and it is a betrayal of much of who Prince was when he was alive.

Yes she has the right but just because you have a right does not make it right. Loving something means you care and protect no matter what - everyone will see it differently but the dislike toward Mayte is because for many she was careless toward a man many hold very, very dear and it hurts.

Who cares if it's offensive to you. Who are you? We're all fans here. We're gonna hear stuff about him now that he's gone. Instead of concentrating on Mayte's book. Concentrate on his legacy which is THE MUSIC. If Mayte wants to tell her story she can. You weren't his wife. She was. Now because comments like this I'm ready for the book to come out and I HOPE it's a bestseller.

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Thanks for that comment! Well said.

Reply #421 posted 03/21/17 8:38pm

PennyPurple

Menes said:

Purplestar88 said:

I don't know how she could be a victim when she put a tattoo of his symbol on her arm and went to some of events after his death. This is not the actions of someone who felt she by victimize in anyway.

Yea, lots of women would have traded places with her to be the "victim". If she was duped , tricked, or, harmed in the sense of a crime , by some "otherworldy" event , we would've heard about that one by now. It's an opinion shared by some about the possibllitiy that she could be a "victim" as demonstrated right now. So it is the same when some of us would be willing to say that Mayte was manipulative and cunning when writing this book ? Futhermore, she could be deemed incredulous since she wouldn't make these claimes while he was alive. At least not for money and in such a public way. You're no different by inserting your opinion in a negative way by using the word, "victim". Better yet, why don't you explain what you mean by "victim". Clear that up for us since you were so bold enough to state it. How was she victimized?

I was responding to Purplestar's post saying that she wasn't an angel or a victim.

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I'll make up my own mind, after I read the book as to whether or not she was a victim. As far as the angel part goes, none of us are angels.

Reply #422 posted 03/21/17 8:39pm

lavie

Menes said:

lavie said:

100% right there. On top of that, she said on social media that in her mind she is still married to Prince!

"In her mind" , she feels slighted . Still harping about the man 20 years later . Poor thing has been a mess since Larry laid hands on Prince and took away all her dreams.

You are a mess lol The Larry laying hands part made me giggle out loud!

Have U had your + today?
Reply #423 posted 03/21/17 8:41pm

Menes

PennyPurple said:

awake4now said:

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There are plenty of posts with constructive criticisms and legitimate complaints about the book, its release, and promotion campaign as well. But some people conveniently dance around those statements or ignore those questions b/c it doesn't suit their narrative of "oh what a poor little victim, we should support the book no matter what."

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Constructive criticisms? or down right lies?

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,It almost sounds like she wanted to get rid of the child which I doubt was going to happen~Laura

Mayte probably wanted an abortion? Is that constructive criticism? NOPE.

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Their marriage was annulled? Constructive criticism? NOPE

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The baby has been referred to as an 'it'. Constructive criticism? NOPE

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C-Sections doesn't require you to go home with pain pills, so maybe it was Mayte who had the problem?? Constructive criticism? NOPE

Do you see the hate? Some have even went as far as saying they have the 'goods' on Mayte and they are just waiting to drop it. ?? HUH? These people are just making up flat out lies, all to tarnish Mayte or stop the publication of this book. It is insane the lengths people are going to. Totally insane.

But , but , wait, you said she was a Victim! How was she victimized? Do YOU see the hate? Is this to tarnish Prince? Is this insane? Please tell us , how was she a victim. See how this works? Lol, the cranium goes deeper and deeper into that hole.

Reply #424 posted 03/21/17 8:47pm

Menes

PennyPurple said:

Menes said:

Yea, lots of women would have traded places with her to be the "victim". If she was duped , tricked, or, harmed in the sense of a crime , by some "otherworldy" event , we would've heard about that one by now. It's an opinion shared by some about the possibllitiy that she could be a "victim" as demonstrated right now. So it is the same when some of us would be willing to say that Mayte was manipulative and cunning when writing this book ? Futhermore, she could be deemed incredulous since she wouldn't make these claimes while he was alive. At least not for money and in such a public way. You're no different by inserting your opinion in a negative way by using the word, "victim". Better yet, why don't you explain what you mean by "victim". Clear that up for us since you were so bold enough to state it. How was she victimized?

I was responding to Purplestar's post saying that she wasn't an angel or a victim.

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I'll make up my own mind, after I read the book as to whether or not she was a victim. As far as the angel part goes, none of us are angels.

Too late! You said" I am not going to say she wasn't a victim" , which implies that you have reason to believe she was a victim. Victim of what? Now you're clamping down on that statement tighter than a crab's ass? You ran your feelings up in here? They will limp all of their asses back. Let's stay friends. It's not worth it.

Reply #425 posted 03/21/17 8:51pm

Purplestar88

PennyPurple said:

Menes said:

Yea, lots of women would have traded places with her to be the "victim". If she was duped , tricked, or, harmed in the sense of a crime , by some "otherworldy" event , we would've heard about that one by now. It's an opinion shared by some about the possibllitiy that she could be a "victim" as demonstrated right now. So it is the same when some of us would be willing to say that Mayte was manipulative and cunning when writing this book ? Futhermore, she could be deemed incredulous since she wouldn't make these claimes while he was alive. At least not for money and in such a public way. You're no different by inserting your opinion in a negative way by using the word, "victim". Better yet, why don't you explain what you mean by "victim". Clear that up for us since you were so bold enough to state it. How was she victimized?

I was responding to Purplestar's post saying that she wasn't an angel or a victim.

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I'll make up my own mind, after I read the book as to whether or not she was a victim. As far as the angel part goes, none of us are angels.

Not to be rude, but it does not matter what she says in the book, you can't be a victim and do all the things she has done, especially after his death. How you take something that is so much apart of them(love symbol) and tatoo it on her body (she might has put his face or name on her arm) and then playing the victim card. It does not add up or make sense.

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Reply #426 posted 03/21/17 9:06pm

Menes

Purplestar88 said:

PennyPurple said:

I was responding to Purplestar's post saying that she wasn't an angel or a victim.

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I'll make up my own mind, after I read the book as to whether or not she was a victim. As far as the angel part goes, none of us are angels.

Not to be rude, but it does not matter what she says in the book, you can't be a victim and do all the things she has done, especially after his death. How you take something that is so much apart of them(love symbol) and tatoo it on her body (she might has put his face or name on her arm) and then playing the victim card. It does not add up or make sense.

[Edited 3/21/17 20:53pm]

It would only make sense if you are of similar mind. "Victims", gotta stick together , ya know? I put that word in quotes because it is not only easy to abuse this word , but it is a clear indication of a " state of mind". Now we gotta go figure out if Prince "victimized" Mayte. They are women who are really victimized by men , Mayte is not one of them.

Reply #427 posted 03/21/17 9:08pm

annalizer

I Feel if this book gives Mayte some closure, so be it, but after all these years she might be still trying to figure out that relationship. I would have been totally confused from what I've gathered so far, it's like watching a Bruce Lee movie when the audio never matched the video. They'd say things, but their actions were different.
Reply #428 posted 03/21/17 9:08pm

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame

Menes said

In her mind" , she feels slighted . Still harping about the man 20 years later . Poor thing has been a mess since Larry laid hands on Prince and took away all her dreams.

jester jester jester jester

Reply #429 posted 03/21/17 9:13pm

kmama07

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

 



awake4now said:


 



PennyPurple said:


 


I just don't get all the hate that is being thrown her way. Certain posters here are saying a lot of untrue things, just to be cruel. I don't think that's ok. I feel everyone has a story, and they should be able to tell it if they want to good, or bad. There is no need for the hate. Nobody is perfect.



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There are plenty of posts with constructive criticisms and legitimate complaints about the book, its release, and promotion campaign as well. But some people conveniently dance around those statements or ignore those questions b/c it doesn't suit their narrative of "oh what a poor little victim, we should support the book no matter what."


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Constructive criticisms? or down right lies?


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,It almost sounds like she wanted to get rid of the child which I doubt was going to happen~Laura


Mayte probably wanted  an abortion? Is that constructive criticism? NOPE.


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Their marriage was annulled? Constructive criticism? NOPE


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The baby has been referred to as an 'it'. Constructive criticism? NOPE


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C-Sections doesn't require you to go home with pain pills, so maybe it was Mayte who had the problem?? Constructive criticism? NOPE


 


Do you see the hate? Some have even went as far as saying they have the 'goods' on Mayte and they are just waiting to drop it. ?? HUH? These people are just making up flat out lies, all to tarnish Mayte or stop the publication of this book. It is insane the lengths people are going to. Totally insane.


 


 


 


Sorry Matye is the one carrying on about that test as if that would have made a difference which it would not have what would her choice have been if she knew about the birth defect before hand. Why even go there?
I haven't read anything about book other than what's been discussed here, and I'm sure some staunch diehards will accuse me of "projecting" but here goes anyway: having a test like that makes no difference in diagnosis of the fetus/child. However, it could make a HUGE difference in the emotional state of the mother/father. Having time to prepare for the inevitable can make a tremendous difference in how one is able to approach the challenges of caring for a child with special needs. That is why some people choose to "go there" with the test.
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Reply #430 posted 03/21/17 9:23pm

Menes

annalizer said:

I Feel if this book gives Mayte some closure, so be it, but after all these years she might be still trying to figure out that relationship. I would have been totally confused from what I've gathered so far, it's like watching a Bruce Lee movie when the audio never matched the video. They'd say things, but their actions were different.

When it was good, it was good, but when it got bad , it got bad. It's still bad to this day. You can't mention those two without mentioning a roller coaster ride somewhere in the middle. He was her everything and she completed his "outerself" according to him. The thought of divorcing ripped her to shreds. She ate , drank, and breathe Prince. She tried getting him out of her system in many ways. He on the other hand ,was teflon . That had to have burned her up. Fast forward 20 years later, and in her mind, this is the only ticket left to mental and financial freedom of sorts. I do believe she was urged to do this for many years and the timing presented itself.

Reply #431 posted 03/21/17 9:24pm

purplerabbithole

If I were in her shoes, I would get the amnio...but imagine if it did accidently result in a miscarriage. That would be rough (particularly if the father wasn't completely behind the amnio.) Its a tough situation.

kmama07 said:

laurarichardson said:
Sorry Matye is the one carrying on about that test as if that would have made a difference which it would not have what would her choice have been if she knew about the birth defect before hand. Why even go there?
I haven't read anything about book other than what's been discussed here, and I'm sure some staunch diehards will accuse me of "projecting" but here goes anyway: having a test like that makes no difference in diagnosis of the fetus/child. However, it could make a HUGE difference in the emotional state of the mother/father. Having time to prepare for the inevitable can make a tremendous difference in how one is able to approach the challenges of caring for a child with special needs. [Edited 3/21/17 21:16pm]

Reply #432 posted 03/21/17 9:26pm

purplerabbithole

Teflon? YOu really think he was that unfeeling? If so, what did she see in him in the first place? Just fame and fortune?

Menes said:

annalizer said:

I Feel if this book gives Mayte some closure, so be it, but after all these years she might be still trying to figure out that relationship. I would have been totally confused from what I've gathered so far, it's like watching a Bruce Lee movie when the audio never matched the video. They'd say things, but their actions were different.

When it was good, it was good, but when it got bad , it got bad. It's still bad to this day. You can't mention those two without mentioning a roller coaster ride somewhere in the middle. He was her everything and she completed his "outerself" according to him. The thought of divorcing ripped her to shreds. She ate , drank, and breathe Prince. She tried getting him out of her system in many ways. He on the other hand ,was teflon . That had to have burned her up. Fast forward 20 years later, and in her mind, this is the only ticket left to mental and financial freedom of sorts. I do believe she was urged to do this for many years and the timing presented itself.

Reply #433 posted 03/21/17 9:28pm

annalizer

Menes said:

 



annalizer said:


I Feel if this book gives Mayte some closure, so be it, but after all these years she might be still trying to figure out that relationship. I would have been totally confused from what I've gathered so far, it's like watching a Bruce Lee movie when the audio never matched the video. They'd say things, but their actions were different.

When it was good, it was good, but when it got bad , it got bad. It's still bad to this day. You can't mention those two without mentioning a roller coaster ride somewhere in the middle. He was her everything and she completed his "outerself" according to him. The thought of divorcing ripped her to shreds. She ate , drank, and breathe Prince. She tried getting him out of her system in many ways. He on the other hand ,was teflon . That had to have burned her up. Fast forward 20 years later, and in her mind, this is the only ticket left to mental and financial freedom of sorts. I do believe she was urged to do this for many years and the timing presented itself. 



Well. I guess this what he meant about the "price" of his candle!
Reply #434 posted 03/21/17 10:14pm

Misslink88

206Michelle said:

Misslink88 said:

Hold on a second. Nothing happened "to" her. She volunteered by sending an audition tape. She lived the life on the road and then she married him. None of the photos I've seen have ever had a gun to her head. If it was happening "to" her and it was a problem, she should have addressed it then. As for what someone told her happened to the baby's ashes, she should have gotten a confirmation that it did happened and then put it in the book. Who knows what agenda the person who told her had for telling her that.

Maybe there is information about what happened to Amiir's ashes in the book. But we wouldn't know that because the book hasn't been released yet.

Yes, it would be nice to know why, in over 20 years, she never walked into a lawyer's office to have a letter sent asking for 1/2 the remains.

God is my Sugar Daddy.
Reply #435 posted 03/22/17 12:02am

purplerabbithole

Reply #436 posted 03/22/17 12:24am

Lovejunky

purplerabbithole said:

https://soundcloud.com/us...rom-prince read by Mayte...

She LOVED HIM so very much.....

Obvious..you can hear it in her voice...very deeply..

I have so much compassion for her....She was torn to shreds, as someone mentioned earlier...

She hasnt recovered...

“LOVE IS THE MASTERPLAN”
Reply #437 posted 03/22/17 12:38am

purplerabbithole

Maybe she didn't want them. God, people have different responses or needs when it comes to the remains of the deceased. Maybe it was too painful to look at them. I believe deep in my heart that neither Mayte nor Prince were non-chalant about their son's ashes. They may not have honored them the way most of us think is appropriate but its their son. HOw they honor that kid in their hearts is what mattered.

My theory...She wanted to talk about him and make his presense/name/history known to other people. Prince wanted to think of him as a spirit seperate from this sinful world and who he will see again in eternal life (healthy and whole).

Misslink88 said:

206Michelle said:

Maybe there is information about what happened to Amiir's ashes in the book. But we wouldn't know that because the book hasn't been released yet.

Yes, it would be nice to know why, in over 20 years, she never walked into a lawyer's office to have a letter sent asking for 1/2 the remains.

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Reply #438 posted 03/22/17 2:01am

BillieBalloon

PennyPurple said:

 



Vashtix said:


 



PennyPurple said


I just don't get all the hate that is being thrown her way. Certain posters here are saying a lot of untrue things, just to be cruel. I don't think that's ok. I feel everyone has a story, and they should be able to tell it if they want to good, or bad. There is no need for the hate. Nobody is perfect.



People are hurt that she has appeared to try to say things about Prince in a indirect way about drug use, and messing with a minor,. It is offensive to me as a fan.  I think people expected her to not diss him. He is being called everything but the child of God and accused of horrible things.


Prince was human so he was not perfection however, there is something called intergrity and care. Just because you have the right to do something does not mean you should do it. You have to weigh the costs. To use a tired old cliche - every action causes a reaction. 


 


What has evolved is reaction to words from Mayte's book. Yes, she can say whatever she wants however she wants to whomever she wants. The thing is Prince did not just belong to her. He belonged to everyone and some of us are still very much in mourning-YES I said still.


 


For a woman who keeps saying she loves him it has been quite the surprise. If you love someone  you care and protect them. She knew he was private, she knew he did not want to have details about the baby. Prince still has close family and friends still living and it is a betrayal of much of who Prince was when he was alive. 


 


Yes she has the right but just because you have a right does not make it right. Loving something means you care and protect no matter what - everyone will see it differently but the dislike toward Mayte is because for many she was careless toward a man many hold very, very  dear and it hurts.


 


 


 



To that bolded above....HUH? That's HER life, it's what she lived. If it is offensive to you as fan, how do you think she feels, as the person who had all of this happen to her?


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For goodness sakes, out of spite, he had someone throw the baby ashes in a fire, he didn't have Maytes feelings at heart when he did this, but it's all her fault because she put in the book what someone told her. Hell, wasn't Prince man enough to tell her himself? NO




Oh is that your idea of constructive criticism? Repeating hearsay, rumour and unverified gossip as if it were fact?

Now youre even calling Prince a wimp because he didnt tell Mayte what he had done. Youre doing the same thing youre accusing others of.
Baby, you're a star.

Meet me in another world, space and joy
Reply #439 posted 03/22/17 2:03am

MMJas

PennyPurple said:

BillieBalloon said:

PennyPurple said: People magazine say the same thing the article above says: Look Pennypurple: https://www.google.co.uk/...death/amp/

NO, this is what the hard copy of the People Magazine said. I've even got it screenshot but I can't post that screenshot here for some reason.

The hard copy:

She got pregnant once more in 1997, but the pregnancy wasn't viable, and she was told she needed a D&C. Prince, who had begun studying the teachings of JW's, a religion he ultimately joined, opposed medical intervention; she went ahead anyway. by the following year he was keeping company with Manuela Testolini, a consultant for his charity. He was becoming more strident in his religious beliefs, writing in a song that he believed God was displeased with his early life and Amiir's death was part of the price he had to pay. But it was his request to have their marriage annulled, so they could "continue it in a less traditional fashion", that proved to be the last straw. After their divorce in 2000, Garcia was told, Prince had his assistant burn everything that reminded him of Garcia or the baby. On New Year's Eve 2001 he and Manuela wed.

Now the online article from People is saying something different then the hard copy.

This right here is soo messed up. I'm glad Mayte had the strenght in her to recognize the crazy in all this and go ahead with the medical intervention. At the end of the day, it was HER life, HER ability to perhaps give birth again that was at risk. Good for her.

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Reply #440 posted 03/22/17 3:49am

laurarichardson

kmama07 said:

laurarichardson said:


Sorry Matye is the one carrying on about that test as if that would have made a difference which it would not have what would her choice have been if she knew about the birth defect before hand. Why even go there?
I haven't read anything about book other than what's been discussed here, and I'm sure some staunch diehards will accuse me of "projecting" but here goes anyway: having a test like that makes no difference in diagnosis of the fetus/child. However, it could make a HUGE difference in the emotional state of the mother/father. Having time to prepare for the inevitable can make a tremendous difference in how one is able to approach the challenges of caring for a child with special needs. That is why some people choose to "go there" with the test.
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But they did not go there and from what she said about him praying he had already accepted that it was God's will. What happened it was not anybody's fault you accept it and move on. She is literally mad at him 20 years later and also attacking how he grieved. Sorry I think it is wrong.
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Reply #441 posted 03/22/17 3:57am

BillieBalloon

Misslink88 said:

 



206Michelle said:


 



Misslink88 said:


 


Hold on a second.  Nothing happened "to" her.  She volunteered by sending an audition tape.  She lived the life on the road and then she married him.  None of the photos I've seen have ever had a gun to her head.  If it was happening "to" her and it was a problem, she should have addressed it then.  As for what someone told her happened to the baby's ashes, she should have gotten a confirmation that it  did happened and then put it in the book.  Who knows what agenda the person who told her had for telling her that.



Maybe there is information about what happened to Amiir's ashes in the book. But we wouldn't know that because the book hasn't been released yet.



Yes, it would be nice to know why, in over 20 years, she never walked into a lawyer's office to have a letter sent asking for 1/2 the remains.  




No judge in the land would have denied her half the remains.
Baby, you're a star.

Meet me in another world, space and joy
Reply #442 posted 03/22/17 4:00am

laurarichardson

MMJas said:

 



PennyPurple said:


 



BillieBalloon said:


PennyPurple said: People magazine say the same thing the article above says: Look Pennypurple: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/people.com/music/prince-mayte-garcia-would-have-stayed-together-son-amiir-death/amp/

NO, this is what the hard copy of the People Magazine said. I've even got it screenshot but I can't post that screenshot here for some reason.


The hard copy:


She got pregnant once more in 1997, but the pregnancy wasn't viable, and she was told she needed a D&C. Prince, who had begun studying the teachings of JW's, a religion he ultimately joined, opposed medical intervention; she went ahead anyway. by the following year he was keeping company with Manuela Testolini, a consultant for his charity. He was becoming more strident in his religious beliefs, writing in a song that he believed God was displeased with his early life and Amiir's death was part of the price he had to pay. But it was his request to have their marriage annulled, so they could "continue it in a less traditional fashion", that proved to be the last straw. After their divorce in 2000, Garcia was told, Prince had his assistant burn everything that reminded him of Garcia or the baby. On New Year's Eve 2001 he and Manuela wed.


 


Now the online article from People is saying something different then the hard copy.



 


This right here is soo messed up. I'm glad Mayte had the strenght in her to recognize the crazy in all this and go ahead with the medical intervention. At the end of the day, it was HER life, HER ability to perhaps give birth again that was at risk. Good for her. 

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Read about D&Cs. If she had it after the miscarriage fine. If she had it to terminate the pregnancy that marriage was over rigth then and there. I do not think any marriage can survive it. She had a right to do it but when you are married it is not all about you that was his baby as well as hers.
https://www.fitpregnancy.com/pregnancy/getting-pregnant/how-risky-having-dc-after-miscarriage
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Also see this article below. Most people of faith do not agree with these procedures and keep in mind this was going on before he was a JW. I am not a JW and I do not agree with it.
http://www.lifenews.com/2017/03/21/singer-prince-refused-to-put-his-unborn-baby-at-risk-with-amniocentesis-no-were-not-doing-that/
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Reply #443 posted 03/22/17 4:03am

laurarichardson

BillieBalloon said:

Misslink88 said:

 



206Michelle said:


 



Misslink88 said:


 


Hold on a second.  Nothing happened "to" her.  She volunteered by sending an audition tape.  She lived the life on the road and then she married him.  None of the photos I've seen have ever had a gun to her head.  If it was happening "to" her and it was a problem, she should have addressed it then.  As for what someone told her happened to the baby's ashes, she should have gotten a confirmation that it  did happened and then put it in the book.  Who knows what agenda the person who told her had for telling her that.



Maybe there is information about what happened to Amiir's ashes in the book. But we wouldn't know that because the book hasn't been released yet.



Yes, it would be nice to know why, in over 20 years, she never walked into a lawyer's office to have a letter sent asking for 1/2 the remains.  




No judge in the land would have denied her half the remains.

///I am puzzled by this as well this women acts as if there are no lawyers or laws that could have assisted her. At what point do you take responsibility for anything. I am not going to get my own lawyer for my divorce ( meaning you get no money) I am not going to try and get my son's ashes. ( meaning anger and regret later)
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Reply #444 posted 03/22/17 4:17am

laurarichardson

precioux said:

laurarichardson said:


--From so she said nothing from 2000 to 2013 and that is not a long time to you. ?



Lol...you're so transparent that I can determine ahead of time what your next "comeback" will be...and I was correct in my thinking.

1.Mayte addressed the annulment 4 years ago..4 years is a long time in my book...

2.Why don't you post a "receipt" as I did, and show me where Mayte was ever questioned or interviewed between 2000 & 2013 and admitted to the annulment

-/ She addressed it 4 years ago from 1998. That is a long time. There are numerous articles were the annulment is mentioned and she has said not a word. There is even one were she said she was at liberty to discuss it at all. She is standing next to him when he announced it for goodness sake. I have already posted her vindictive comments concerning the auction and her bringing him aspirin after scoffing at the idea that he even had migraines. When I post these things I get no response from you or the rest of the naysayers. I am gathering more comments this women has made and will posting in fact I will send them to you directly. She has contradicted herself so many times over the years it is unreal.
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Reply #445 posted 03/22/17 4:45am

Vashtix

TurnItUp said:

Vashtix said:

People are hurt that she has appeared to try to say things about Prince in a indirect way about drug use, and messing with a minor,. It is offensive to me as a fan. I think people expected her to not diss him. He is being called everything but the child of God and accused of horrible things.

Prince was human so he was not perfection however, there is something called intergrity and care. Just because you have the right to do something does not mean you should do it. You have to weigh the costs. To use a tired old cliche - every action causes a reaction.

What has evolved is reaction to words from Mayte's book. Yes, she can say whatever she wants however she wants to whomever she wants. The thing is Prince did not just belong to her. He belonged to everyone and some of us are still very much in mourning-YES I said still.

For a woman who keeps saying she loves him it has been quite the surprise. If you love someone you care and protect them. She knew he was private, she knew he did not want to have details about the baby. Prince still has close family and friends still living and it is a betrayal of much of who Prince was when he was alive.

Yes she has the right but just because you have a right does not make it right. Loving something means you care and protect no matter what - everyone will see it differently but the dislike toward Mayte is because for many she was careless toward a man many hold very, very dear and it hurts.

Who cares if it's offensive to you. Who are you? We're all fans here. We're gonna hear stuff about him now that he's gone. Instead of concentrating on Mayte's book. Concentrate on his legacy which is THE MUSIC. If Mayte wants to tell her story she can. You weren't his wife. She was. Now because comments like this I'm ready for the book to come out and I HOPE it's a bestseller.

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The bolded statement validates why there is negativity growing toward this book. Who cares if it is offensive to me? appears no one and I am human being with feelings. The choice made to make fun and belittle my opinion is uncalled for - there are more tactful, respectful ways of addressing a difference of opinion without coming at me. I will continue to have my own views and thoughts and trying to discount mine because they do not match yours is wrong.

I will always appreciate a discussion of differing opinions. I do not appreciate being personally asked who am I - I am a human being with thoughts and feelings. Those words attempting to dehumanize a person is when the most horrible of incidents happen. We are all God's children. It is ashame when that -who cares?- mentality about one another appears. We are our brother's keeper.

Mayte's choices throughtout her life have been hers alone. She wrote a book. She has opened the door to many things by what she chose to say and the presentation of those things.

It is not a personal attack on her. People discuss books that is why there are so many book clubs.

It is par for the course of putting your business/book in the street so to speak.

I do not have time to waste hoping bad for anyone. The line about how much she sells is irrelevant to me. That does not matter to me.

About she has the right-

We are on the earth together for a little time. I do think we should have love for each other in all things. We should have care and not be shortsighted. Again, you may have the right but it does not make it right. If things will offend my fellow man or give pause or pain to someone down the line I need to weigh heavily the results and residual effects and maybe have the higher mind and forego my right.

MY opinion, who am I? A fellow human being with my own thoughts and feelings who clearly has been told nobody cares. I do think there are still people who do care.

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Reply #446 posted 03/22/17 4:49am

Vashtix

Misslink88 said:

PennyPurple said:

To that bolded above....HUH? That's HER life, it's what she lived. If it is offensive to you as fan, how do you think she feels, as the person who had all of this happen to her?

.

For goodness sakes, out of spite, he had someone throw the baby ashes in a fire, he didn't have Maytes feelings at heart when he did this, but it's all her fault because she put in the book what someone told her. Hell, wasn't Prince man enough to tell her himself? NO

Hold on a second. Nothing happened "to" her. She volunteered by sending an audition tape. She lived the life on the road and then she married him. None of the photos I've seen have ever had a gun to her head. If it was happening "to" her and it was a problem, she should have addressed it then. As for what someone told her happened to the baby's ashes, she should have gotten a confirmation that it did happened and then put it in the book. Who knows what agenda the person who told her had for telling her that.

That is not a fact and that right there is what I mean about cold and careless, what is the point of saying that ?

What good does that do to put heresy in the universe?

Prince was a human being and loved that baby too. That kind of rumor will be picked apart if there were any journalists worth anything- if she did not see it herself it should never come out of her mouth. That is careless.

Reply #447 posted 03/22/17 4:50am

laurarichardson

Vashtix said:

TurnItUp said:

Who cares if it's offensive to you. Who are you? We're all fans here. We're gonna hear stuff about him now that he's gone. Instead of concentrating on Mayte's book. Concentrate on his legacy which is THE MUSIC. If Mayte wants to tell her story she can. You weren't his wife. She was. Now because comments like this I'm ready for the book to come out and I HOPE it's a bestseller.

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The bolded statement validates why there is negativity growing toward this book. Who cares if it is offensive to me? appears no one and I am human being with feelings. The choice made to make fun and belittle my opinion is uncalled for - there are more tactful, respectful ways of addressing a difference of opinion without coming at me. I will continue to have my own views and thoughts and trying to discount mine because they do not match yours is wrong.

I will always appreciate a discussion of differing opinions. I do not appreciate being personally asked who am I - I am a human being with thoughts and feelings. Those words attempting to dehumanize a person is when the most horrible of incidents happen. We are all God's children. It is ashame when that who cares mentality about one another appears. We are our brother's keeper.

Mayte's choices throughtout her life have been hers alone. She wrote a book. She has opened the door to many things by what she chose to say and the presentation of those things.

It is not a personal attack on her. People discuss books that is why there are so many book clubs.

It is par for the course of putting your business/book in the street to speak.

I do not have time to waste hoping bad for anyone the line about how much she sells is irrelevant to me. That does not matter to me.

About she has the right.

We are the on the earth together for a little time. I do think we should have love for each other in all things. We should have care and not be shortsighted. Again, you may have the right but it does not make it right. If things will offend my fellow man or give pause or pain to someone down the line I need to weigh heavily the results and residual effects and maybe have the higher mind and forego my right.

MY opinion, who am I? A fellow human being with my own thoughts and feelings who clearly has been told nobody cares. I do think there are still people who do care.

Very well put

Reply #448 posted 03/22/17 5:24am

rednblue

laurarichardson said:

Vashtix said:

The bolded statement validates why there is negativity growing toward this book. Who cares if it is offensive to me? appears no one and I am human being with feelings. The choice made to make fun and belittle my opinion is uncalled for - there are more tactful, respectful ways of addressing a difference of opinion without coming at me. I will continue to have my own views and thoughts and trying to discount mine because they do not match yours is wrong.

I will always appreciate a discussion of differing opinions. I do not appreciate being personally asked who am I - I am a human being with thoughts and feelings. Those words attempting to dehumanize a person is when the most horrible of incidents happen. We are all God's children. It is ashame when that who cares mentality about one another appears. We are our brother's keeper.

Mayte's choices throughtout her life have been hers alone. She wrote a book. She has opened the door to many things by what she chose to say and the presentation of those things.

It is not a personal attack on her. People discuss books that is why there are so many book clubs.

It is par for the course of putting your business/book in the street to speak.

I do not have time to waste hoping bad for anyone the line about how much she sells is irrelevant to me. That does not matter to me.

About she has the right.

We are the on the earth together for a little time. I do think we should have love for each other in all things. We should have care and not be shortsighted. Again, you may have the right but it does not make it right. If things will offend my fellow man or give pause or pain to someone down the line I need to weigh heavily the results and residual effects and maybe have the higher mind and forego my right.

MY opinion, who am I? A fellow human being with my own thoughts and feelings who clearly has been told nobody cares. I do think there are still people who do care.

Very well put

Menes said:

And how harsh have most of us here been with her, to include me? I can move on from the epic knock down fights I've had with her without bitching about how much she's hurting my feelings on a forum. She gives it as much as she gets it and she damn sure gets it alot. People attack her all the time for days on end. Once, I hammered Laura for 3 days straight. She gave it right back to me for those same 3 days. We still don't agree on a lot of things but I would rather have her in a foxhole in a time of war than some of these cupcakes seeking an emotional crutch in a forum. Certain sensitive souls who are predisposed to fragility and need mommy's protective pouch ,need to leave all of that damn baggage at the door. Go buy a puppy if you need that much love! This is not a therapy hall with levels of care based upon your emotional state. I need a drink.

I believe that Menes is a fierce critic of Mayte. Correct me if I'm wrong.

I think the above bolded could be conveniently applied to anyone (me included) who cares so much about the Prince world, but doesn't know anyone in it. I think we should try to be sensitive with one another (predisposed to sensitivity has its good side), and I don't think that's wimpy, though it's easy to be snappy and proud saying that it is.

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Reply #449 posted 03/22/17 6:37am

1Sasha

The only two people who know what really happened in their relationship are Mayte and Prince. Do I think he was the best husband in the world, from what I have read? No. He was controlling and dictatorial; plus, he had all the money which allowed him to wield all the power. Do I think she was the best wife in the world, from what I have read? I think she tried to be a good wife, but she was a kid and the situation would have been hard for a 35-year-old woman to handle. That's my perspective from the outside. They were broken, and nothing could have put them back together. So she wrote a book about her life 20-25 years ago. Again I say: it is her right to do this, and let her do it.

Reply #450 posted 03/22/17 6:38am

laurarichardson

PennyPurple said:

And here we go, speculation that they weren't even married.....


--Go to the Carver County website and find the info. You can see that docs concerning his second divorce are there but due to being sealed you cannot see the details for M1 nothing. She had better hope the Star Tribune does not come sniffing around because if she had kept her mouth closed she would not be facing inquiries. She should have learned that silence is sometimes golden.
Reply #451 posted 03/22/17 6:52am

PennyPurple

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

And here we go, speculation that they weren't even married.....

--Go to the Carver County website and find the info. You can see that docs concerning his second divorce are there but due to being sealed you cannot see the details for M1 nothing. She had better hope the Star Tribune does not come sniffing around because if she had kept her mouth closed she would not be facing inquiries. She should have learned that silence is sometimes golden.

My computer at my work won't let me paste the picture here. There is a copy of their Marriage Certificate. Google. Prince Rogers Nelson Marriage Certificate, then go to Images. It's right there PLAIN AS DAY.

This nonsense needs to stop.

Director of Licensing; Hennepin County, MN

Cartridge numer 958B

Image 1067

Witnesses: Kirk Johnson, Janelle Garcia

Recorded by: Violet L. *can't make out the last name

Date 02/16/1996

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Reply #452 posted 03/22/17 7:30am

Misslink88

You think she didn't want them so that is why she asked about them until she finally found out that he alledgedly did something to them and then she wanted them? I agree with you that how they honor their child in their hearts is the most important, hence the reason for my confusion about adding the allegation that he burnt ashes in her book.

purplerabbithole said:

Maybe she didn't want them. God, people have different responses or needs when it comes to the remains of the deceased. Maybe it was too painful to look at them. I believe deep in my heart that neither Mayte nor Prince were non-chalant about their son's ashes. They may not have honored them the way most of us think is appropriate but its their son. HOw they honor that kid in their hearts is what mattered.

My theory...She wanted to talk about him and make his presense/name/history known to other people. Prince wanted to think of him as a spirit seperate from this sinful world and who he will see again in eternal life (healthy and whole).

Misslink88 said:

Yes, it would be nice to know why, in over 20 years, she never walked into a lawyer's office to have a letter sent asking for 1/2 the remains.

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God is my Sugar Daddy.
Reply #453 posted 03/22/17 7:32am

laurarichardson

PennyPurple said:

 



laurarichardson said:


PennyPurple said:

And here we go, speculation that they weren't even married.....



--Go to the Carver County website and find the info. You can see that docs concerning his second divorce are there but due to being sealed you cannot see the details for M1 nothing. She had better hope the Star Tribune does not come sniffing around because if she had kept her mouth closed she would not be facing inquiries. She should have learned that silence is sometimes golden.

My computer at my work won't let me paste the picture here. There is a copy of their Marriage Certificate. Google. Prince Rogers Nelson Marriage Certificate, then go to Images. It's right there PLAIN AS DAY.


 


This nonsense needs to stop.


 


Director of Licensing; Hennepin County, MN


Cartridge numer 958B


Image 1067


 


Witnesses: Kirk Johnson, Janelle Garcia


Recorded by: Violet L. *can't make out the last name


Date  02/16/1996


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Is it signed by him? Also my post also concerns divorce docs do you see divorce docs? Because no one can seem to find them and their being sealed would have nothing to do with them not being listed. Do you see guardianship/adoption ( stupid media is saying he adopted her meanwhile she is not listed as an heir.) papers? See she opened and can worms here.
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Reply #454 posted 03/22/17 7:36am

rogifan

1Sasha said:

The only two people who know what really happened in their relationship are Mayte and Prince.  Do I think he was the best husband in the world, from what I have read?  No.  He was controlling and dictatorial; plus, he had all the money which allowed him to wield all the power.  Do I think she was the best wife in the world, from what I have read?  I think she tried to be a good wife, but she was a kid and the situation would have been hard for a 35-year-old woman to handle.  That's my perspective from the outside.  They were broken, and nothing could have put them back together.  So she wrote a book about her life 20-25 years ago. Again I say:  it is her right to do this, and let her do it. 


Just because someone has a right to do something doesn't mean they should. The only reason anyone would even publish this book is because she was married to Prince. All the tabloids care about is what she says about her time with Prince. It's all about him. No one would even know who she is if not for him.
Paisley Park is in your heart
#PrinceForever 💜
Reply #455 posted 03/22/17 7:39am

laurarichardson

rogifan said:

1Sasha said:

The only two people who know what really happened in their relationship are Mayte and Prince.  Do I think he was the best husband in the world, from what I have read?  No.  He was controlling and dictatorial; plus, he had all the money which allowed him to wield all the power.  Do I think she was the best wife in the world, from what I have read?  I think she tried to be a good wife, but she was a kid and the situation would have been hard for a 35-year-old woman to handle.  That's my perspective from the outside.  They were broken, and nothing could have put them back together.  So she wrote a book about her life 20-25 years ago. Again I say:  it is her right to do this, and let her do it. 


Just because someone has a right to do something doesn't mean they should. The only reason anyone would even publish this book is because she was married to Prince. All the tabloids care about is what she says about her time with Prince. It's all about him. No one would even know who she is if not for him.

-/Exactly that is the reason is face is on the front cover which the stupid estate managers could have stopped. 😳
Reply #456 posted 03/22/17 7:39am

purplerabbithole

Was she still working on this memoir when Manuela/P's divorce papers were released. Remember how Manuela fought against their release. Is it possible that Mayte didn't know about the burning of ashing until after those papers came out. She was hurt by what she read and then Manuela described the reasoning behind the action to her to make her feel better...that Prince was in pain. So, Mayte included it in the book to further reveal the impact that the loss had on Prince. The articles stated that the burning took place in 2000 but it doesnt say when she found out. It might have been years later. Or it could have been when she and Manuela were 'friends' and they both happen to discuss Prince's issues years later.

Misslink88 said:

You think she didn't want them so that is why she asked about them until she finally found out that he alledgedly did something to them and then she wanted them? I agree with you that how they honor their child in their hearts is the most important, hence the reason for my confusion about adding the allegation that he burnt ashes in her book.

purplerabbithole said:

Maybe she didn't want them. God, people have different responses or needs when it comes to the remains of the deceased. Maybe it was too painful to look at them. I believe deep in my heart that neither Mayte nor Prince were non-chalant about their son's ashes. They may not have honored them the way most of us think is appropriate but its their son. HOw they honor that kid in their hearts is what mattered.

My theory...She wanted to talk about him and make his presense/name/history known to other people. Prince wanted to think of him as a spirit seperate from this sinful world and who he will see again in eternal life (healthy and whole).

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Reply #457 posted 03/22/17 7:52am

lavie

PennyPurple said:

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said: --Go to the Carver County website and find the info. You can see that docs concerning his second divorce are there but due to being sealed you cannot see the details for M1 nothing. She had better hope the Star Tribune does not come sniffing around because if she had kept her mouth closed she would not be facing inquiries. She should have learned that silence is sometimes golden.

My computer at my work won't let me paste the picture here. There is a copy of their Marriage Certificate. Google. Prince Rogers Nelson Marriage Certificate, then go to Images. It's right there PLAIN AS DAY.

This nonsense needs to stop.

Director of Licensing; Hennepin County, MN

Cartridge numer 958B

Image 1067

Witnesses: Kirk Johnson, Janelle Garcia

Recorded by: Violet L. *can't make out the last name

Date 02/16/1996

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Have you ever gotten married before? That's a marriage license. That's what you get before you actually get legally married. Once the marriage occurs, then you get a marriage certificate that must be signed by both parties and the witnesses, as well as the officiant. The officiant then files this with the county within a few days after the marriage occurs. You'll need both. This still does not answer the question why there are no listings for a divorce or annulment.

Have U had your + today?
Reply #458 posted 03/22/17 7:54am

annalizer

Laura stated above about silence being golden, is the whole key to why this discussion even exists. If Mayte would've had the courage to speak up then, she probably wouldn't have written her book at all, but unfortunately for her "silence", is the the main issue.
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Reply #459 posted 03/22/17 8:02am

PennyPurple

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

My computer at my work won't let me paste the picture here. There is a copy of their Marriage Certificate. Google. Prince Rogers Nelson Marriage Certificate, then go to Images. It's right there PLAIN AS DAY.

This nonsense needs to stop.

Director of Licensing; Hennepin County, MN

Cartridge numer 958B

Image 1067

Witnesses: Kirk Johnson, Janelle Garcia

Recorded by: Violet L. *can't make out the last name

Date 02/16/1996

[Edited 3/22/17 6:57am]

[Edited 3/22/17 6:57am]

Is it signed by him? Also my post also concerns divorce docs do you see divorce docs? Because no one can seem to find them and their being sealed would have nothing to do with them not being listed. Do you see guardianship/adoption ( stupid media is saying he adopted her meanwhile she is not listed as an heir.) papers? See she opened and can worms here. [Edited 3/22/17 7:35am] [Edited 3/22/17 7:37am]

The marriage license (application to marry) is the only document that requires the bride and grooms signatures. The marriage certificate, the witnesses sign.

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My daughter just got married in October, her and the groom were required to sign the application for the marriage license. Their certificate is only signed my the minister and the witnesses. There isn't even a place on the marriage certificates for the bride and groom to sign, as there is not a place on Prince and Maytes for them to sign either.

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Reply #460 posted 03/22/17 8:13am

PennyPurple

lavie said:

PennyPurple said:

My computer at my work won't let me paste the picture here. There is a copy of their Marriage Certificate. Google. Prince Rogers Nelson Marriage Certificate, then go to Images. It's right there PLAIN AS DAY.

This nonsense needs to stop.

Director of Licensing; Hennepin County, MN

Cartridge numer 958B

Image 1067

Witnesses: Kirk Johnson, Janelle Garcia

Recorded by: Violet L. *can't make out the last name

Date 02/16/1996

[Edited 3/22/17 6:57am]

[Edited 3/22/17 6:57am]

Have you ever gotten married before? That's a marriage license. That's what you get before you actually get legally married. Once the marriage occurs, then you get a marriage certificate that must be signed by both parties and the witnesses, as well as the officiant. The officiant then files this with the county within a few days after the marriage occurs. You'll need both. This still does not answer the question why there are no listings for a divorce or annulment.

NO, that is a copy of their Marriage Certificate, that has been filed with the County. What you get before you get married is a LICENSE..to be married. The LICENSE requires the bride and grooms signatures. The Marriage Certificate does not, nor does it have a place for the bride and groom to sign. It is only signed by the Minister and the witnesses.

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Once you go to the courthouse and get the marriage license and it is signed by the bride and groom and the county, they issue you a certificate, you take the certificate to the minister, who then after you are married, will sign it and obtain the witnesses signatures, then the minister files it with the county.

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It has been filed with the county and recorded in the county records, on 2/16/1996.

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I'm not answering the question about the divorce, nor have I mentioned the divorce. I'm talking about the marriage between he & Mayte. I've answered anothers post about them not (maybe) being legally married. Which is hogwash.

Reply #461 posted 03/22/17 8:17am

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame

lavie said:

Have you ever gotten married before? That's a marriage license. That's what you get before you actually get legally married. Once the marriage occurs, then you get a marriage certificate that must be signed by both parties and the witnesses, as well as the officiant. The officiant then files this with the county within a few days after the marriage occurs. You'll need both. This still does not answer the question why there are no listings for a divorce or annulment.

It clearly states "Marriage Certificate"

You dont sign the certificate.

The officiant and the witnesses sign the certificate.

You only need to sign the license, not the certificate.

Reply #462 posted 03/22/17 8:21am

PennyPurple

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

lavie said:

Have you ever gotten married before? That's a marriage license. That's what you get before you actually get legally married. Once the marriage occurs, then you get a marriage certificate that must be signed by both parties and the witnesses, as well as the officiant. The officiant then files this with the county within a few days after the marriage occurs. You'll need both. This still does not answer the question why there are no listings for a divorce or annulment.

It clearly states "Marriage Certificate"

You dont sign the certificate.

The officiant and the witnesses sign the certificate.

You only need to sign the license, not the certificate.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you!!!! kiss2

Reply #463 posted 03/22/17 8:29am

Misslink88

What she read was the same as everyone here did when the docs first came out. "Yes, like mayte's stuff was in larry's back yard". I'm sure u can find the pic on one of the Mani divorce threads. "Stuff" didn't say anything about ashes nor was there a 2000 year date for the burning mentioned in the conversation. Would you please provide a link for what articles stated this happened in 2000?

purplerabbithole said:

Was she still working on this memoir when Manuela/P's divorce papers were released. Remember how Manuela fought against their release. Is it possible that Mayte didn't know about the burning of ashing until after those papers came out. She was hurt by what she read and then Manuela described the reasoning behind the action to her to make her feel better...that Prince was in pain. So, Mayte included it in the book to further reveal the impact that the loss had on Prince. The articles stated that the burning took place in 2000 but it doesnt say when she found out. It might have been years later. Or it could have been when she and Manuela were 'friends' and they both happen to discuss Prince's issues years later.

Misslink88 said:

You think she didn't want them so that is why she asked about them until she finally found out that he alledgedly did something to them and then she wanted them? I agree with you that how they honor their child in their hearts is the most important, hence the reason for my confusion about adding the allegation that he burnt ashes in her book.

God is my Sugar Daddy.
Reply #464 posted 03/22/17 8:33am

lavie

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

lavie said:

Have you ever gotten married before? That's a marriage license. That's what you get before you actually get legally married. Once the marriage occurs, then you get a marriage certificate that must be signed by both parties and the witnesses, as well as the officiant. The officiant then files this with the county within a few days after the marriage occurs. You'll need both. This still does not answer the question why there are no listings for a divorce or annulment.

It clearly states "Marriage Certificate"

You dont sign the certificate.

The officiant and the witnesses sign the certificate.

You only need to sign the license, not the certificate.

When I got married, we had to sign our marriage certificate as well but I wasn't married in Minnesota. Also, here's a marriage certificate from Hennepin County (2012). There is a line for the bridegroom and bride to sign, is there not? I mean, you could argue that this wasn't the case in 1996, I guess..but if Minnesota didn't make the bride and groom sign their marriage certificates in 1996 they certainly did in 2012 at least.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-U5zvDnjcq8w/UivwLboFXMI/AAAAAAAAO2k/MdEQcQ7qHs0/s1600/Isaac+Early+Marriage+Cert.jpg

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Reply #465 posted 03/22/17 8:39am

NotACleverName

Vashtix said:

 



TurnItUp said:



Vashtix said:

People are hurt that she has appeared to try to say things about Prince in a indirect way about drug use, and messing with a minor,. It is offensive to me as a fan.  I think people expected her to not diss him. He is being called everything but the child of God and accused of horrible things.

Prince was human so he was not perfection however, there is something called intergrity and care. Just because you have the right to do something does not mean you should do it. You have to weigh the costs. To use a tired old cliche - every action causes a reaction. 

What has evolved is reaction to words from Mayte's book. Yes, she can say whatever she wants however she wants to whomever she wants. The thing is Prince did not just belong to her. He belonged to everyone and some of us are still very much in mourning-YES I said still.

For a woman who keeps saying she loves him it has been quite the surprise. If you love someone  you care and protect them. She knew he was private, she knew he did not want to have details about the baby. Prince still has close family and friends still living and it is a betrayal of much of who Prince was when he was alive. 

Yes she has the right but just because you have a right does not make it right. Loving something means you care and protect no matter what - everyone will see it differently but the dislike toward Mayte is because for many she was careless toward a man many hold very, very  dear and it hurts.



 

Who cares if it's offensive to you. Who are you? We're all fans here. We're gonna hear stuff about him now that he's gone. Instead of concentrating on Mayte's book. Concentrate on his legacy which is THE MUSIC. If Mayte wants to tell her story she can. You weren't his wife. She was. Now because comments like this I'm ready for the book to come out and I HOPE it's a bestseller.


[Edited 3/21/17 20:27pm]



The bolded statement validates why there is negativity growing toward this book. Who cares if it is offensive to me?  appears no one and I am human being with feelings. The choice made to make fun and belittle my opinion is uncalled for - there are more tactful, respectful ways of addressing a difference of opinion without coming at me. I will continue to have my own views and thoughts and trying to discount mine because they do not match yours is wrong.

I will always appreciate a discussion of differing opinions. I do not appreciate being personally asked who am I - I am a human being with thoughts and feelings. Those words attempting to dehumanize a person is when the most horrible of incidents happen. We are all God's children. It is ashame when that -who cares?- mentality about one another appears. We are our brother's keeper.

Mayte's choices throughtout her life have been hers alone. She wrote a book. She has opened the door to many things by what she chose to say and the presentation of those things.

It is not a personal attack on her. People discuss books that is why there are so many book clubs.  

It is par for the course of putting your business/book in the street so to speak. 

I do not have time to waste hoping bad for anyone. The line about how much she sells is irrelevant to me. That does not matter to me.  

About she has the right-

We are on the earth together for a little time. I do think we should have love for each other in all things. We should have care and not be shortsighted. Again, you may have the right but it does not make it right. If things will offend my fellow man or give pause or pain to someone down the line I need to weigh heavily the results and residual effects and maybe have the higher mind and forego my right. 

MY opinion, who am I? A fellow human being with my own thoughts and feelings who clearly has been told nobody cares.  I do think there are still people who do care.

[Edited 3/22/17 5:03am]


Do tell, Vashtix, why you should be afforded the courtesy of expressing an opinion without another challenging you but Mayte does not? People are coming at Mayte and they are not being respectful, kind, considerate, thoughtful, caring, etc. She is a human being with feelings, too. She is, also, a child of God. She has a right to speak her truth. Let me say that again for emphasis.....she has a right to speak HER truth. The choice to make fun of and belittle her opinion is uncalled for (sound familiar?). Where is the compassion for her? Why do you deserve to be addressed in a tactful and respectful manner but she does not? And just because people have the right to express an opinion full of hate and anger, doesn't always make it right to do so. Sometimes the art of holding your tongue goes a long, long way in helping to foster good will toward your fellow man.

And guess what? People are attacking her in a personal manner. They are choosing to make it personal. They are interpreting her words in a way they choose. They are making the choice to call Prince disgusting names.

Some of the comments here are so telling of why our world is so f'ed up. The hate and vitriol astounds me. It truly does.
"Go placidly amid the noise and the haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence......." ~ DESIDERATA ~ Max Ehrmann
Reply #466 posted 03/22/17 9:00am

precioux

Which leads me to question...is THAT why Mani was so up in arms about the divorce docs becoming unsealed???? The unsealed docs do state in a PM between her and P "Was my stuff burned in LG's backyard like M1?"...since that was revealed, I'm wondering if M2 paid her attorneys to redact the portion that may have revealed M2 as being the "assistant" who burned Ahmir's urn. Maybe ISLIJAG can answer this question

Misslink88 said:

What she read was the same as everyone here did when the docs first came out. "Yes, like mayte's stuff was in larry's back yard". I'm sure u can find the pic on one of the Mani divorce threads. "Stuff" didn't say anything about ashes nor was there a 2000 year date for the burning mentioned in the conversation. Would you please provide a link for what articles stated this happened in 2000?

purplerabbithole said:

Was she still working on this memoir when Manuela/P's divorce papers were released. Remember how Manuela fought against their release. Is it possible that Mayte didn't know about the burning of ashing until after those papers came out. She was hurt by what she read and then Manuela described the reasoning behind the action to her to make her feel better...that Prince was in pain. So, Mayte included it in the book to further reveal the impact that the loss had on Prince. The articles stated that the burning took place in 2000 but it doesnt say when she found out. It might have been years later. Or it could have been when she and Manuela were 'friends' and they both happen to discuss Prince's issues years later.

Reply #467 posted 03/22/17 9:05am

precioux

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

And here we go, speculation that they weren't even married.....

--Go to the Carver County website and find the info. You can see that docs concerning his second divorce are there but due to being sealed you cannot see the details for M1 nothing. She had better hope the Star Tribune does not come sniffing around because if she had kept her mouth closed she would not be facing inquiries. She should have learned that silence is sometimes golden.

You would be doing yourself a great favor if you could heed your own misogynistic advice bored2

Reply #468 posted 03/22/17 9:15am

laurarichardson

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

 



lavie said:


 


Have you ever gotten married before?  That's a marriage license.  That's what you get before you actually get legally married.  Once the marriage occurs, then you get a marriage certificate that must be signed by both parties and the witnesses, as well as the officiant.  The officiant then files this with the county within a few days after the marriage occurs.  You'll need both.  This still does not answer the question why there are no listings for a divorce or annulment.



It clearly states "Marriage Certificate"


You dont sign the certificate.


The officiant and the witnesses sign the certificate.


You only need to sign the license, not the certificate.


There is a pic of the license without his signature that I saw online. I believe it was discussed on the board before it is very strange as the missing divorce info.
[Edited 3/22/17 9:19am]
Reply #469 posted 03/22/17 9:18am

laurarichardson

precioux said:

 



laurarichardson said:


PennyPurple said:

And here we go, speculation that they weren't even married.....



--Go to the Carver County website and find the info. You can see that docs concerning his second divorce are there but due to being sealed you cannot see the details for M1 nothing. She had better hope the Star Tribune does not come sniffing around because if she had kept her mouth closed she would not be facing inquiries. She should have learned that silence is sometimes golden.

You would be doing yourself a great favor if you could heed your own misogynistic advice bored2


--It has nothing to do with that all. It has to do with keeping your private life private male or female. Do you recall Prince discussing his life in detail with the media? It is about having respect for your self and others. Also if the media is gunning for you do not give them the gun and ammunition.
Reply #470 posted 03/22/17 9:20am

precioux

laurarichardson said:

precioux said:

You would be doing yourself a great favor if you could heed your own misogynistic advice bored2

--It has nothing to do with that all. It has to do with keeping your private life private male or female. Do you recall Prince discussing his life in detail with the media? It is about having respect for your self and others. Also if the media is gunning for you do not give them the gun and ammunition.

blahblah

Reply #471 posted 03/22/17 9:28am

rogifan

This thread...

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Paisley Park is in your heart
#PrinceForever 💜
Reply #472 posted 03/22/17 9:38am

annalizer

rogifan said:

This thread...

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Uncle Prince would not be pleased!😁
Reply #473 posted 03/22/17 9:50am

pernil

I can't really understand all the fuzz over Mayte's forthcoming book... I'm looking forward to it. I've read a few books on artists written by their wives which have been quite good, providing new insights and interesting background on the artists' creative process. I recently read Bettye Kronstad's book on Lou Reed (she was his first wife) and books by the partners of Ron Wood and Lindsey Buckingham.

Per

Reply #474 posted 03/22/17 10:03am

purplerabbithole

Either it was the UK Times article or People magazine that dates the 'burning' I believe.

The divorce papers do not say anything about 'ashes', but maybe she inquired.

Keep in mind, I was making a hypothesis. She and Prince were't speaking so somebody had to have told her (if indeed the ashes were included in "Mayte's stuff". The question was when and how.

Misslink88 said:

What she read was the same as everyone here did when the docs first came out. "Yes, like mayte's stuff was in larry's back yard". I'm sure u can find the pic on one of the Mani divorce threads. "Stuff" didn't say anything about ashes nor was there a 2000 year date for the burning mentioned in the conversation. Would you please provide a link for what articles stated this happened in 2000?

purplerabbithole said:

Was she still working on this memoir when Manuela/P's divorce papers were released. Remember how Manuela fought against their release. Is it possible that Mayte didn't know about the burning of ashing until after those papers came out. She was hurt by what she read and then Manuela described the reasoning behind the action to her to make her feel better...that Prince was in pain. So, Mayte included it in the book to further reveal the impact that the loss had on Prince. The articles stated that the burning took place in 2000 but it doesnt say when she found out. It might have been years later. Or it could have been when she and Manuela were 'friends' and they both happen to discuss Prince's issues years later.

Reply #475 posted 03/22/17 10:07am

benni

Misslink88 said:

206Michelle said:

Maybe there is information about what happened to Amiir's ashes in the book. But we wouldn't know that because the book hasn't been released yet.

Yes, it would be nice to know why, in over 20 years, she never walked into a lawyer's office to have a letter sent asking for 1/2 the remains.


How do you know she didn't?

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Reply #476 posted 03/22/17 10:09am

benni

laurarichardson said:

kmama07 said:
I haven't read anything about book other than what's been discussed here, and I'm sure some staunch diehards will accuse me of "projecting" but here goes anyway: having a test like that makes no difference in diagnosis of the fetus/child. However, it could make a HUGE difference in the emotional state of the mother/father. Having time to prepare for the inevitable can make a tremendous difference in how one is able to approach the challenges of caring for a child with special needs. That is why some people choose to "go there" with the test. [Edited 3/21/17 21:16pm] [Edited 3/21/17 21:20pm]
But they did not go there and from what she said about him praying he had already accepted that it was God's will. What happened it was not anybody's fault you accept it and move on. She is literally mad at him 20 years later and also attacking how he grieved. Sorry I think it is wrong. [Edited 3/22/17 3:57am]


You state that she is "literally made him 20 years later", please provide support for this statement, otherwise it is your opinion only. Who has said she is mad at him 20 years later? Where is the proof that this is how she feels towards him?

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Reply #477 posted 03/22/17 10:11am

benni

BillieBalloon said:

Misslink88 said:

Yes, it would be nice to know why, in over 20 years, she never walked into a lawyer's office to have a letter sent asking for 1/2 the remains.

No judge in the land would have denied her half the remains.


How do you know that no judge would deny her the remains? And what if she couldn't afford a lawyer? Remember, he left her in Spain with next to nothing except a house. No income, no money. Lawyers cost money.

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Reply #478 posted 03/22/17 10:19am

PennyPurple

laurarichardson said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

It clearly states "Marriage Certificate"

You dont sign the certificate.

The officiant and the witnesses sign the certificate.

You only need to sign the license, not the certificate.

There is a pic of the license without his signature that I saw online. I believe it was discussed on the board before it is very strange as the missing divorce info. [Edited 3/22/17 9:19am]

Please see the explanation for this on post #459, #460 & #461.

I'm tired of repeating myself.

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You are spewing nonsense.

Reply #479 posted 03/22/17 10:23am

benni

laurarichardson said:

BillieBalloon said:
No judge in the land would have denied her half the remains.
///I am puzzled by this as well this women acts as if there are no lawyers or laws that could have assisted her. At what point do you take responsibility for anything. I am not going to get my own lawyer for my divorce ( meaning you get no money) I am not going to try and get my son's ashes. ( meaning anger and regret later) [Edited 3/22/17 4:52am]


Lawyers cost money. Prince didn't leave her with any, if you recall.

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Reply #480 posted 03/22/17 10:36am

anangellooksdown

Something came to me this morning. No comparisons meant here or putting one person above another, I just feel that Prince's marriage to Mayte was much more heartfelt and sincere than his 2nd marriage. I think Prince was in a very sincere place with Mayte and really cared about her and protected her. Until he was hurled into depression after his child's psssing.
His 2nd marriage feels more surface in some ways even though he was getting deeply religious.
~Paisley Park is in your heart~
Reply #481 posted 03/22/17 10:47am

Misslink88

benni said:

BillieBalloon said:

Misslink88 said: No judge in the land would have denied her half the remains.


How do you know that no judge would deny her the remains? And what if she couldn't afford a lawyer? Remember, he left her in Spain with next to nothing except a house. No income, no money. Lawyers cost money.

I understand she would be absolutely gutted at the turn of events at that time (both the child and the end of their relationship), which leads to... just what kind of a divorce lawyer did she have that they didn't look out for her interests? I can't believe she didn't have a conversation with her attorney about the child's urn even if she didn't receive any cash. But she did have a $4 million dollar house which is not really "next to nothing" especially in 1999. Additionally, she DID work afterward so there would have been an opportunity to contact a lawyer again later. The talk that he didn't stop her from doing anything would then also have implied not stopping her going to the press to say he wasn't giving her the urn or wouldn't discuss it. If she could mention that the loss of their child caused their marriage to break up, she could have also mentioned that she didn't have the urn.

God is my Sugar Daddy.
Reply #482 posted 03/22/17 10:55am

purplerabbithole

I didn't have money either when I divorced. I borrowed some from my parents. Everyone told me I should have insisted that my husband pay my fees, but I didn't want to deal with being indebted to him or the nastiness that would slow down the process.

If he left her a house, couldn't she sell it for lawyer fees or furniture inside the house? There is no way this woman didn't have something she could sell right away for lawyer fees (diamond rings, jewerly, furniture, gifts) or walking around money. Maybe, she didn't know how to go about it as a 22 year old (in her defense) but later after she talked to a few people, I am sure they could have helped her out (at least to pay enough lawyer fees to inquire about obtaining the baby ashes.) She may have just not wanted them.

benni said:

laurarichardson said:

BillieBalloon said: ///I am puzzled by this as well this women acts as if there are no lawyers or laws that could have assisted her. At what point do you take responsibility for anything. I am not going to get my own lawyer for my divorce ( meaning you get no money) I am not going to try and get my son's ashes. ( meaning anger and regret later) [Edited 3/22/17 4:52am]


Lawyers cost money. Prince didn't leave her with any, if you recall.

[Edited 3/22/17 11:01am]

Reply #483 posted 03/22/17 10:56am

BillieBalloon

benni said:

 



BillieBalloon said:


Misslink88 said:

 


Yes, it would be nice to know why, in over 20 years, she never walked into a lawyer's office to have a letter sent asking for 1/2 the remains.  



No judge in the land would have denied her half the remains.


How do you know that no judge would deny her the remains?  And what if she couldn't afford a lawyer?  Remember, he left her in Spain with next to nothing except a house.  No income, no money.  Lawyers cost money. 




How do other people do it? The average jo.
Prince did not leave her destitute, she had the means.
Also, all she had to do was tell the media, he would have handed them over pronto. You are making her out to be a complete imbecile. Youre defending her but really you dont put much faith in her abilities do you?
Baby, you're a star.

Meet me in another world, space and joy
Reply #484 posted 03/22/17 10:58am

BillieBalloon

benni said:

 



laurarichardson said:


BillieBalloon said:
No judge in the land would have denied her half the remains.

///I am puzzled by this as well this women acts as if there are no lawyers or laws that could have assisted her. At what point do you take responsibility for anything. I am not going to get my own lawyer for my divorce ( meaning you get no money) I am not going to try and get my son's ashes. ( meaning anger and regret later) [Edited 3/22/17 4:52am]


Lawyers cost money.  Prince didn't leave her with any, if you recall. 




This is the same woman who had a saved a hundred thousand dollars by age 16.
Baby, you're a star.

Meet me in another world, space and joy
Reply #485 posted 03/22/17 11:00am

benni

Misslink88 said:

benni said:


How do you know that no judge would deny her the remains? And what if she couldn't afford a lawyer? Remember, he left her in Spain with next to nothing except a house. No income, no money. Lawyers cost money.

I understand she would be absolutely gutted at the turn of events at that time (both the child and the end of their relationship), which leads to... just what kind of a divorce lawyer did she have that they didn't look out for her interests? I can't believe she didn't have a conversation with her attorney about the child's urn even if she didn't receive any cash. But she did have a $4 million dollar house which is not really "next to nothing" especially in 1999. Additionally, she DID work afterward so there would have been an opportunity to contact a lawyer again later. The talk that he didn't stop her from doing anything would then also have implied not stopping her going to the press to say he wasn't giving her the urn or wouldn't discuss it. If she could mention that the loss of their child caused their marriage to break up, she could have also mentioned that she didn't have the urn.

Do we even know if she had a divorce lawyer? My divorce, my ex got a lawyer but I could not afford one. I had talked with my ex about what I wanted and expected, and luckily he agreed, but the day of the divorce our daughter was sick and I was not able to attend, and what I had wanted was not included in the divorce. The judge stated that he had no way of knowing if I had agreed with it and therefore would not put it in the divorce. As far as the house goes, that is not instant cash on hand to pay a lawyer, so it might as well be next to nothing. If you've ever tried to sell a house it can take a long time to sell. When did she go to work afterwards? How long after the divorce before she felt confident enough to go back to work? Did she earn enough to afford a lawyer? And besides that, how do we know that she didn't ask for the urn with Ahmir's ashes? She may have asked for them and Prince may have said "no". She may have hired a lawyer, but Prince had access to greater financial resources and could have kept her tied up in court (therefore costing much more than she might be able to afford).

I mean, I don't know how it played out, but then again, neither does anyone else who are stating, "she spent all those years and didn't ask for the baby's urn" or "no judge would deny her the remains" or ... It's all supposition on the part of the poster, that they are stating as fact and are upset with Mayte for not having done it. But the fact remains, they don't know what she did or didn't do during that time, and so I cannot understand why they are so upset with Mayte since they don't know.

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Reply #486 posted 03/22/17 11:03am

benni

purplerabbithole said:

I didn't have money either when I divorced. I borrowed some from my parents. Everyone told me I should have insisted that my husband pay my fees, but I didn't want to deal with being indebted to him or the nastiness that would slow down the process.

If he left her a house, couldn't she sell it for lawyer fees? There is no way this woman didn't have something she could sell right away for lawyer fees (diamond rings, jewerly, gifts) or walking around money. Plus, she could have threatened public exposure?

benni said:


Lawyers cost money. Prince didn't leave her with any, if you recall.


The one thing that everyone is forgetting is just how young Mayte was during that time. Selling houses take time and they may be on the market for years before they sell, especially houses worth millions. Also, wasn't this during the time when the housing market was going bust? As for selling other items, look what happened when she attempted to sell items she had 20 years after the fact. Look at the blow-back from media, fans, etc. Imagine if she had tried to sell all of that at the moment they separated. Plus, I can imagine that in her mind that she wanted to hang on to those items because to her she wasn't ready to let go of the marriage.

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Reply #487 posted 03/22/17 11:04am

laurarichardson

benni said:

 



laurarichardson said:


kmama07 said:
I haven't read anything about book other than what's been discussed here, and I'm sure some staunch diehards will accuse me of "projecting" but here goes anyway: having a test like that makes no difference in diagnosis of the fetus/child. However, it could make a HUGE difference in the emotional state of the mother/father. Having time to prepare for the inevitable can make a tremendous difference in how one is able to approach the challenges of caring for a child with special needs. That is why some people choose to "go there" with the test. [Edited 3/21/17 21:16pm] [Edited 3/21/17 21:20pm]

But they did not go there and from what she said about him praying he had already accepted that it was God's will. What happened it was not anybody's fault you accept it and move on. She is literally mad at him 20 years later and also attacking how he grieved. Sorry I think it is wrong. [Edited 3/22/17 3:57am]


You state that she is "literally made him 20 years later", please provide support for this statement, otherwise it is your opinion only.  Who has said she is mad at him 20 years later?  Where is the proof that this is how she feels towards him?


You did not see Tesl Hollyeod housewives or the comment that she made to the auction house?
Reply #488 posted 03/22/17 11:04am

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame

Can you find a worse photo of P to post? JFC

rogifan said:

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Reply #489 posted 03/22/17 11:04am

benni

BillieBalloon said:

benni said:


Lawyers cost money. Prince didn't leave her with any, if you recall.

This is the same woman who had a saved a hundred thousand dollars by age 16.


And this is the same woman that married Prince, so those assets had been combined (probably) by that time.

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Reply #490 posted 03/22/17 11:05am

PennyPurple

benni said:

Misslink88 said:

I understand she would be absolutely gutted at the turn of events at that time (both the child and the end of their relationship), which leads to... just what kind of a divorce lawyer did she have that they didn't look out for her interests? I can't believe she didn't have a conversation with her attorney about the child's urn even if she didn't receive any cash. But she did have a $4 million dollar house which is not really "next to nothing" especially in 1999. Additionally, she DID work afterward so there would have been an opportunity to contact a lawyer again later. The talk that he didn't stop her from doing anything would then also have implied not stopping her going to the press to say he wasn't giving her the urn or wouldn't discuss it. If she could mention that the loss of their child caused their marriage to break up, she could have also mentioned that she didn't have the urn.

Do we even know if she had a divorce lawyer? My divorce, my ex got a lawyer but I could not afford one. I had talked with my ex about what I wanted and expected, and luckily he agreed, but the day of the divorce our daughter was sick and I was not able to attend, and what I had wanted was not included in the divorce. The judge stated that he had no way of knowing if I had agreed with it and therefore would not put it in the divorce. As far as the house goes, that is not instant cash on hand to pay a lawyer, so it might as well be next to nothing. If you've ever tried to sell a house it can take a long time to sell. When did she go to work afterwards? How long after the divorce before she felt confident enough to go back to work? Did she earn enough to afford a lawyer? And besides that, how do we know that she didn't ask for the urn with Ahmir's ashes? She may have asked for them and Prince may have said "no". She may have hired a lawyer, but Prince had access to greater financial resources and could have kept her tied up in court (therefore costing much more than she might be able to afford).

I mean, I don't know how it played out, but then again, neither does anyone else who are stating, "she spent all those years and didn't ask for the baby's urn" or "no judge would deny her the remains" or ... It's all supposition on the part of the poster, that they are stating as fact and are upset with Mayte for not having done it. But the fact remains, they don't know what she did or didn't do during that time, and so I cannot understand why they are so upset with Mayte since they don't know.

Yep, Benni You are correct.

Reply #491 posted 03/22/17 11:06am

laurarichardson

precioux said:

 



laurarichardson said:


precioux said:

 


You would be doing yourself a great favor if you could heed your own misogynistic advice bored2



--It has nothing to do with that all. It has to do with keeping your private life private male or female. Do you recall Prince discussing his life in detail with the media? It is about having respect for your self and others. Also if the media is gunning for you do not give them the gun and ammunition.

blahblah


This is what five year olds do when they do not listen.
Reply #492 posted 03/22/17 11:07am

benni

laurarichardson said:

benni said:


You state that she is "literally made him 20 years later", please provide support for this statement, otherwise it is your opinion only. Who has said she is mad at him 20 years later? Where is the proof that this is how she feels towards him?

You did not see Tesl Hollyeod housewives or the comment that she made to the auction house?


No, I never had any interest to watch Real Hollywood Housewives. I don't like reality shows, as I know they are all staged, not real, and things are taken out of context. Too many reports by people that have been on reality shows in which things get twisted. As for the comment that she made to the auction house, I'm not even sure she said it. It makes a good story, that's for sure. And if she did say it, my first thought would be that she intended that to mean that Prince doesn't care what she does, he doesn't want anything to do with her any more, not that she had anything on him or that she would go after him, just that he doesn't want to mess with her, because he has no further interest or no longer cares what she does or doesn't do.

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Reply #493 posted 03/22/17 11:08am

laurarichardson

benni said:

 



laurarichardson said:


BillieBalloon said:
No judge in the land would have denied her half the remains.

///I am puzzled by this as well this women acts as if there are no lawyers or laws that could have assisted her. At what point do you take responsibility for anything. I am not going to get my own lawyer for my divorce ( meaning you get no money) I am not going to try and get my son's ashes. ( meaning anger and regret later) [Edited 3/22/17 4:52am]


Lawyers cost money.  Prince didn't leave her with any, if you recall. 


--Lawyers will take a high profile case and get paid out of the settlement. She would have no problem finding an attorney. Some of you are making her out to be a imbecile.
Reply #494 posted 03/22/17 11:10am

laurarichardson

benni said:

 



purplerabbithole said:


I didn't have money either when I divorced. I borrowed some from my parents. Everyone told me I should have insisted that my husband pay my fees, but I didn't want to deal with being indebted to him or the nastiness that would slow down the process. 


 


  If he left her a house, couldn't she sell it for lawyer fees?  There is no way this woman didn't have something she could sell right away for lawyer fees (diamond rings, jewerly, gifts)  or walking around money.  Plus, she could have threatened public exposure?



benni said:


 



Lawyers cost money.  Prince didn't leave her with any, if you recall. 



 




The one thing that everyone is forgetting is just how young Mayte was during that time.  Selling houses take time and they may be on the market for years before they sell, especially houses worth millions.  Also, wasn't this during the time when the housing market was going bust?  As for selling other items, look what happened when she attempted to sell items she had 20 years after the fact.  Look at the blow-back from media, fans, etc.  Imagine if she had tried to sell all of that at the moment they separated.  Plus, I can imagine that in her mind that she wanted to hang on to those items because to her she wasn't ready to let go of the marriage. 


No the housing bust happened in 2006.
Reply #495 posted 03/22/17 11:11am

benni

laurarichardson said:

benni said:


Lawyers cost money. Prince didn't leave her with any, if you recall.

--Lawyers will take a high profile case and get paid out of the settlement. She would have no problem finding an attorney. Some of you are making her out to be a imbecile.


If she wanted the urn, what settlement? There would have been no cash back from that to pay a lawyer.

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Reply #496 posted 03/22/17 11:12am

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame

laurarichardson said:

benni said:


Lawyers cost money. Prince didn't leave her with any, if you recall.

--Lawyers will take a high profile case and get paid out of the settlement. She would have no problem finding an attorney. Some of you are making her out to be a imbecile.

True Dat.

lol

Reply #497 posted 03/22/17 11:12am

benni

laurarichardson said:

benni said:


The one thing that everyone is forgetting is just how young Mayte was during that time. Selling houses take time and they may be on the market for years before they sell, especially houses worth millions. Also, wasn't this during the time when the housing market was going bust? As for selling other items, look what happened when she attempted to sell items she had 20 years after the fact. Look at the blow-back from media, fans, etc. Imagine if she had tried to sell all of that at the moment they separated. Plus, I can imagine that in her mind that she wanted to hang on to those items because to her she wasn't ready to let go of the marriage.

No the housing bust happened in 2006.


Regardless, they can still be on the market for years before they actually sell. I live in a middle class neighborhood and have been here 2 years, the house across the street from me has been on the market for that entire time and only recently sold.

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Reply #498 posted 03/22/17 11:13am

benni

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

laurarichardson said:

benni said: --Lawyers will take a high profile case and get paid out of the settlement. She would have no problem finding an attorney. Some of you are making her out to be a imbecile.

True Dat.

lol


Again, what settlement? If she hired a lawyer to get Ahmir's ashes, there would have been no settlement to pay a lawyer.

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Reply #499 posted 03/22/17 11:13am

precioux

edit

[Edited 3/22/17 11:35am]

Reply #500 posted 03/22/17 11:14am

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame

benni said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

True Dat.

lol


Again, what settlement? If she hired a lawyer to get Ahmir's ashes, there would have been no settlement to pay a lawyer.

I would have done it for free.

Reply #501 posted 03/22/17 11:14am

1Sasha

On one of tthe Andy Allo threads, there was a comment about a Prince song lyric which said essentially that his second marriage was on the rebound, out of despair. I of course don't know if that was the case, but I could see him going to someone else to run away from the tragedy of his first marriage.

Reply #502 posted 03/22/17 11:18am

benni

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

benni said:


Again, what settlement? If she hired a lawyer to get Ahmir's ashes, there would have been no settlement to pay a lawyer.

I would have done it for free.


Then it's a shame you weren't around for her then. wink

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Reply #503 posted 03/22/17 11:19am

laurarichardson

benni said:

 



laurarichardson said:


benni said:

 



You state that she is "literally made him 20 years later", please provide support for this statement, otherwise it is your opinion only.  Who has said she is mad at him 20 years later?  Where is the proof that this is how she feels towards him?



You did not see Tesl Hollyeod housewives or the comment that she made to the auction house?


No, I never had any interest to watch Real Hollywood Housewives.  I don't like reality shows, as I know they are all staged, not real, and things are taken out of context.  Too many reports by people that have been on reality shows in which things get twisted.  As for the comment that she made to the auction house, I'm not even sure she said it.  It makes a good story, that's for sure.  And if she did say it, my first thought would be that she intended that to mean that Prince doesn't care what she does, he doesn't want anything to do with her any more, not that she had anything on him or that she would go after him, just that he doesn't want to mess with her, because he has no further interest or no longer cares what she does or doesn't do.


I understand that reality shows stage certain things but she made a few gold digger comments on that show. Why would she want to be portrayed in that manner? Also you need to watch that show before you defend her even old Dave said she was not herself ( I guess the fake M1 was on the show lol) If you took the time to read the entire thing this is the auction house stating that they asked was Prince going to sue and she responded "he don't want to mess with me" how more plain could she have made herself this was just a year ago. Now I see that some of you are in la la land about this women.
Reply #504 posted 03/22/17 11:19am

PennyPurple

laurarichardson said:

precioux said:

blahblah

This is what five year olds do when they do not listen.

NO, this is what happens, when someone goes on and on and on, no matter what the facts show. blahblah

Reply #505 posted 03/22/17 11:20am

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame

benni said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

I would have done it for free.


Then it's a shame you weren't around for her then. wink

I was around but not in Minnesota.

lol

Reply #506 posted 03/22/17 11:21am

laurarichardson

1Sasha said:

On one of tthe Andy Allo threads, there was a comment about a Prince song lyric which said essentially that his second marriage was on the rebound, out of despair.  I of course don't know if that was the case, but I could see him going to someone else to run away from the tragedy of his first marriage.


//Right now we can only go by the excerpt but if she had a D&C agaisnt his wishes that marriage was done.
Reply #507 posted 03/22/17 11:22am

purplerabbithole

We don't know. But we have to use our common sense. There are a lot of young HOllywood wives who don't work (and probably signed NDA agreements) who are able to stick it to their famous rich husbands during divorce proceedings. How do they pull off--they often don't work either. No doubt, Mayte lived well with Prince and was given several gifts of jewerly, clothes etc. Even if she can't sell the house right way, there were other alternatives.

Mayte didn't get alimony or a lump sum like Eddie Murphy's wife etc and its only human if she is a little regretful or jealous, but I think the media might be exagerrating her destitution..or at least writing about it in relative terms. She was destitute compared to Heather Mills (McCartney's ex-wife).. I dont imagine she was destitute compared to the average unemployed divorcee.

Also with a NDA agreements, people can still threaten to break them for better settlements especially if Prince's offenses were really that serious. He would probably rather shut her up in the first place than have to sue her after the damage is already done to his public image.

benni said:

Misslink88 said:

I understand she would be absolutely gutted at the turn of events at that time (both the child and the end of their relationship), which leads to... just what kind of a divorce lawyer did she have that they didn't look out for her interests? I can't believe she didn't have a conversation with her attorney about the child's urn even if she didn't receive any cash. But she did have a $4 million dollar house which is not really "next to nothing" especially in 1999. Additionally, she DID work afterward so there would have been an opportunity to contact a lawyer again later. The talk that he didn't stop her from doing anything would then also have implied not stopping her going to the press to say he wasn't giving her the urn or wouldn't discuss it. If she could mention that the loss of their child caused their marriage to break up, she could have also mentioned that she didn't have the urn.

Do we even know if she had a divorce lawyer? My divorce, my ex got a lawyer but I could not afford one. I had talked with my ex about what I wanted and expected, and luckily he agreed, but the day of the divorce our daughter was sick and I was not able to attend, and what I had wanted was not included in the divorce. The judge stated that he had no way of knowing if I had agreed with it and therefore would not put it in the divorce. As far as the house goes, that is not instant cash on hand to pay a lawyer, so it might as well be next to nothing. If you've ever tried to sell a house it can take a long time to sell. When did she go to work afterwards? How long after the divorce before she felt confident enough to go back to work? Did she earn enough to afford a lawyer? And besides that, how do we know that she didn't ask for the urn with Ahmir's ashes? She may have asked for them and Prince may have said "no". She may have hired a lawyer, but Prince had access to greater financial resources and could have kept her tied up in court (therefore costing much more than she might be able to afford).

I mean, I don't know how it played out, but then again, neither does anyone else who are stating, "she spent all those years and didn't ask for the baby's urn" or "no judge would deny her the remains" or ... It's all supposition on the part of the poster, that they are stating as fact and are upset with Mayte for not having done it. But the fact remains, they don't know what she did or didn't do during that time, and so I cannot understand why they are so upset with Mayte since they don't know.

Reply #508 posted 03/22/17 11:23am

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame

laurarichardson said:

1Sasha said:

On one of tthe Andy Allo threads, there was a comment about a Prince song lyric which said essentially that his second marriage was on the rebound, out of despair. I of course don't know if that was the case, but I could see him going to someone else to run away from the tragedy of his first marriage.

//Right now we can only go by the excerpt but if she had a D&C agaisnt his wishes that marriage was done.

It was a molar pregnancy so something had to be done.

Reply #509 posted 03/22/17 11:26am

benni

laurarichardson said:

benni said:


No, I never had any interest to watch Real Hollywood Housewives. I don't like reality shows, as I know they are all staged, not real, and things are taken out of context. Too many reports by people that have been on reality shows in which things get twisted. As for the comment that she made to the auction house, I'm not even sure she said it. It makes a good story, that's for sure. And if she did say it, my first thought would be that she intended that to mean that Prince doesn't care what she does, he doesn't want anything to do with her any more, not that she had anything on him or that she would go after him, just that he doesn't want to mess with her, because he has no further interest or no longer cares what she does or doesn't do.

I understand that reality shows stage certain things but she made a few gold digger comments on that show. Why would she want to be portrayed in that manner? Also you need to watch that show before you defend her even old Dave said she was not herself ( I guess the fake M1 was on the show lol) If you took the time to read the entire thing this is the auction house stating that they asked was Prince going to sue and she responded "he don't want to mess with me" how more plain could she have made herself this was just a year ago. Now I see that some of you are in la la land about this women.


Look, I am saying that I don't know what she did or didn't do, but neither does anyone else. As for gold digger comments, have never heard them, so can't address why she would want to portrayed in that manner, unless the show just ignored what she wanted or didn't want included and put the most controversial thing they could find. As far as defending her, I would defend anyone that has people spouting opinions as fact in order to vilify that woman. I am pointing out that for every negative you want to bring forth, there is another way to view it; that your opinion is not fact. You've stated that you do not post anything that isn't based upon fact, and yet with Mayte you consistently post your opinion based upon your interpretation of things, and not backed by fact. Again, I did read the whole thing that was said by the auction house and what they "SAID" Mayte supposedly said. And again, there is another way to view that statement. As I stated above.

And it is easy to see that no matter what Mayte does, there will always be some that will only ever portray Mayte as an evil woman, only worthy of their contempt and ire.

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Reply #510 posted 03/22/17 11:26am

PennyPurple

laurarichardson said:

1Sasha said:

On one of tthe Andy Allo threads, there was a comment about a Prince song lyric which said essentially that his second marriage was on the rebound, out of despair. I of course don't know if that was the case, but I could see him going to someone else to run away from the tragedy of his first marriage.

//Right now we can only go by the excerpt but if she had a D&C agaisnt his wishes that marriage was done.

She had already miscarried. You have a D & C after a miscarriage to clean out the uterine lining, to prevent infection and hemorrhaging.

.

Again Laura, don't turn it into something that it is not.

Reply #511 posted 03/22/17 11:26am

purplerabbithole

Well that brings us back to the original divorce settlement. She could have taken him for more than she did AND asked for the ashes.

Regardless, if her only concern was obtaining the ashes, wouldn't the lawyer fees be less and therefore something she could have paid for by liquidifying some of her assets?--ie gifts etc.

benni said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

True Dat.

lol


Again, what settlement? If she hired a lawyer to get Ahmir's ashes, there would have been no settlement to pay a lawyer.

Reply #512 posted 03/22/17 11:32am

benni

purplerabbithole said:

We don't know. But we have to use our common sense. There are a lot of young HOllywood wives who don't work (and probably signed NDA agreements) who are able to stick it to their famous rich husbands during divorce proceedings. How do they pull off--they often don't work either. No doubt, Mayte lived well with Prince and was given several gifts of jewerly, clothes etc. Even if she can't sell the house right way, there were other alternatives.

Mayte didn't get alimony or a lump sum like Eddie Murphy's wife etc and its only human if she is a little regretful or jealous, but I think the media might be exagerrating her destitution..or at least writing about it in relative terms. She was destitute compared to Heather Mills (McCartney's ex-wife).. I dont imagine she was destitute compared to the average unemployed divorcee.

Also with a NDA agreements, people can still threaten to break them for better settlements especially if Prince's offenses were really that serious. He would probably rather shut her up in the first place than have to sue her after the damage is already done to his public image.

benni said:

Do we even know if she had a divorce lawyer? My divorce, my ex got a lawyer but I could not afford one. I had talked with my ex about what I wanted and expected, and luckily he agreed, but the day of the divorce our daughter was sick and I was not able to attend, and what I had wanted was not included in the divorce. The judge stated that he had no way of knowing if I had agreed with it and therefore would not put it in the divorce. As far as the house goes, that is not instant cash on hand to pay a lawyer, so it might as well be next to nothing. If you've ever tried to sell a house it can take a long time to sell. When did she go to work afterwards? How long after the divorce before she felt confident enough to go back to work? Did she earn enough to afford a lawyer? And besides that, how do we know that she didn't ask for the urn with Ahmir's ashes? She may have asked for them and Prince may have said "no". She may have hired a lawyer, but Prince had access to greater financial resources and could have kept her tied up in court (therefore costing much more than she might be able to afford).

I mean, I don't know how it played out, but then again, neither does anyone else who are stating, "she spent all those years and didn't ask for the baby's urn" or "no judge would deny her the remains" or ... It's all supposition on the part of the poster, that they are stating as fact and are upset with Mayte for not having done it. But the fact remains, they don't know what she did or didn't do during that time, and so I cannot understand why they are so upset with Mayte since they don't know.


Unfortunately, I know the other side of the experience when you are left destitute and have to start over completely. Also, if Mayte's things were kept in storage when he left her behind in Spain, then she may not have had access to those items until years later, when he finally gave her access to those things. And there were some things she was not given, as evidenced by the reports that Prince destroyed anything that reminded him of Mayte or the baby.

If we use common sense, then common sense says that things are not always black and white and there area always grey areas. People are wanting this to be black and white, but it's just not. There are too many variables to be able to hazard a definite guess as to how things played out. I prefer to reserve my judgment until after I get more details. I'm not going to judge Mayte for something that I know I don't have enough information to judge her for. However, there are those that it doesn't matter what information they have or don't have, they are going to vilify her no matter what. And I think that is just really unfair of them. If they don't like Mayte, fine. But stop trying to pass off opinion as fact, when they just don't have all the details to support those opinions as anything other than their opinion.

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Reply #513 posted 03/22/17 11:32am

laurarichardson

PennyPurple said:

 



laurarichardson said:


1Sasha said:

On one of tthe Andy Allo threads, there was a comment about a Prince song lyric which said essentially that his second marriage was on the rebound, out of despair.  I of course don't know if that was the case, but I could see him going to someone else to run away from the tragedy of his first marriage.



//Right now we can only go by the excerpt but if she had a D&C agaisnt his wishes that marriage was done.

She had already miscarried. You have a D & C after a miscarriage to clean out the uterine lining, to prevent infection and hemorrhaging.


.


Again Laura, don't turn it into something that it is not.


You can also have a D&C to end a Pregnacy and it is not clear from the excerpt about what happened. We will find out when the book is out. I also posted a link about D&C. You always have something smart to say but you read nothing.
Reply #514 posted 03/22/17 11:34am

purplerabbithole

Technically for two more years, the marriage wasn't done. .. She didn't convert to Jehovah Witness religion and she did the D and C. She made the right decision in both cases.

In a typical miscarriage as long as it is early, a D and C is not necessarily needed.. NOt sure it was a molar pregancy or an early miscarriage, or how much Prince knew about the specifics. But in her shoes, I wouldn't have taken a chance and I would have had the D and C.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

laurarichardson said:

1Sasha said: //Right now we can only go by the excerpt but if she had a D&C agaisnt his wishes that marriage was done.

It was a molar pregnancy so something had to be done.

[Edited 3/22/17 11:40am]

Reply #515 posted 03/22/17 11:35am

laurarichardson

benni said:

 



laurarichardson said:


benni said:

 



No, I never had any interest to watch Real Hollywood Housewives.  I don't like reality shows, as I know they are all staged, not real, and things are taken out of context.  Too many reports by people that have been on reality shows in which things get twisted.  As for the comment that she made to the auction house, I'm not even sure she said it.  It makes a good story, that's for sure.  And if she did say it, my first thought would be that she intended that to mean that Prince doesn't care what she does, he doesn't want anything to do with her any more, not that she had anything on him or that she would go after him, just that he doesn't want to mess with her, because he has no further interest or no longer cares what she does or doesn't do.



I understand that reality shows stage certain things but she made a few gold digger comments on that show. Why would she want to be portrayed in that manner? Also you need to watch that show before you defend her even old Dave said she was not herself ( I guess the fake M1 was on the show lol) If you took the time to read the entire thing this is the auction house stating that they asked was Prince going to sue and she responded "he don't want to mess with me" how more plain could she have made herself this was just a year ago. Now I see that some of you are in la la land about this women.


Look, I am saying that I don't know what she did or didn't do, but neither does anyone else.  As for gold digger comments, have never heard them, so can't address why she would want to portrayed in that manner, unless the show just ignored what she wanted or didn't want included and put the most controversial thing they could find.  As far as defending her, I would defend anyone that has people spouting opinions as fact in order to vilify that woman.  I am pointing out that for every negative you want to bring forth, there is another way to view it; that your opinion is not fact.  You've stated that you do not post anything that isn't based upon fact, and yet with Mayte you consistently post your opinion based upon your interpretation of things, and not backed by fact.  Again, I did read the whole thing that was said by the auction house and what they "SAID" Mayte supposedly said.  And again, there is another way to view that statement.  As I stated above.

And it is easy to see that no matter what Mayte does, there will always be some that will only ever portray Mayte as an evil woman, only worthy of their contempt and ire. 


--I am telling you about things she said out her own mouth. It is not my interpretation of anything. You choose not to seek out the info which is fine it does not change want she has said. 🙄
Reply #516 posted 03/22/17 11:36am

PennyPurple

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

She had already miscarried. You have a D & C after a miscarriage to clean out the uterine lining, to prevent infection and hemorrhaging.

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Again Laura, don't turn it into something that it is not.

You can also have a D&C to end a Pregnacy and it is not clear from the excerpt about what happened. We will find out when the book is out. I also posted a link about D&C. You always have something smart to say but you read nothing.

Stop Laura. Again you imply that she may have had an abortion. Stop with the unfound nonsense. It is common to have a D & C after a miscarriage.

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I thought you weren't reading the book? So where does "WE" come into play?

Reply #517 posted 03/22/17 11:36am

benni

purplerabbithole said:

Well that brings us back to the original divorce settlement. She could have taken him for more than she did AND asked for the ashes.

Regardless, if her only concern was obtaining the ashes, wouldn't the lawyer fees be less and therefore something she could have paid for by liquidifying some of her assets?--ie gifts etc.

benni said:


Again, what settlement? If she hired a lawyer to get Ahmir's ashes, there would have been no settlement to pay a lawyer.


Not if Prince fought her on it. If Prince decided that he wanted the urn and did not want Mayte to have them, then the longer that would have drawn on would result in greater and greater legal charges. My son had a driving ticket and his lawyer kept extending the hearing date, each time he sent a letter to the court requesting an extension it cost my son $200. Then every letter the lawyer sent cost, every hour he spent on the case, cost my son more and more above the original $3000 retainer. We figured out that by the time the lawyer finally actually did something on the case and the judge finally threw the charges out of the window, my son, his father, and myself, had paid out over $120,000 to that lawyer.

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Reply #518 posted 03/22/17 11:37am

benni

laurarichardson said:

benni said:


Look, I am saying that I don't know what she did or didn't do, but neither does anyone else. As for gold digger comments, have never heard them, so can't address why she would want to portrayed in that manner, unless the show just ignored what she wanted or didn't want included and put the most controversial thing they could find. As far as defending her, I would defend anyone that has people spouting opinions as fact in order to vilify that woman. I am pointing out that for every negative you want to bring forth, there is another way to view it; that your opinion is not fact. You've stated that you do not post anything that isn't based upon fact, and yet with Mayte you consistently post your opinion based upon your interpretation of things, and not backed by fact. Again, I did read the whole thing that was said by the auction house and what they "SAID" Mayte supposedly said. And again, there is another way to view that statement. As I stated above.

And it is easy to see that no matter what Mayte does, there will always be some that will only ever portray Mayte as an evil woman, only worthy of their contempt and ire.

--I am telling you about things she said out her own mouth. It is not my interpretation of anything. You choose not to seek out the info which is fine it does not change want she has said. 🙄


You are stating what she said, however, you are putting your own interpretation upon what she meant. That is conjecture, not fact.

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Reply #519 posted 03/22/17 11:41am

precioux

laurarichardson said:

precioux said:

blahblah

This is what five year olds do when they do not listen.

your misogynistic rhetorical is getting old, laura...and speking of "5 year olds", your grammar is still the likes of one. PLEASE, go back to 2nd grade, use your fucking dictionary (or spell check for that matter), change to your tablet (like you promised you would, or maybe that is your excuse for illiteracy dunce ), OR sit the hell down.

The adults in here are talking and would appreciate it if at least 90% of your posts were legible.

Reply #520 posted 03/22/17 11:42am

benni

laurarichardson said:

benni said:


Look, I am saying that I don't know what she did or didn't do, but neither does anyone else. As for gold digger comments, have never heard them, so can't address why she would want to portrayed in that manner, unless the show just ignored what she wanted or didn't want included and put the most controversial thing they could find. As far as defending her, I would defend anyone that has people spouting opinions as fact in order to vilify that woman. I am pointing out that for every negative you want to bring forth, there is another way to view it; that your opinion is not fact. You've stated that you do not post anything that isn't based upon fact, and yet with Mayte you consistently post your opinion based upon your interpretation of things, and not backed by fact. Again, I did read the whole thing that was said by the auction house and what they "SAID" Mayte supposedly said. And again, there is another way to view that statement. As I stated above.

And it is easy to see that no matter what Mayte does, there will always be some that will only ever portray Mayte as an evil woman, only worthy of their contempt and ire.

--I am telling you about things she said out her own mouth. It is not my interpretation of anything. You choose not to seek out the info which is fine it does not change want she has said. 🙄


And as for seeking out info on Real Hollywood Ex-wives (or whatever it is called), I enjoy my brain cells and have no desire to watch it. I have no interest in that show, regardless who is involved with it. And I do not follow Mayte's career, nor have I ever had an interest to follow everyone that was a part of Prince's circle. If I like their art, I'll look it up, otherwise, meh.

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Reply #521 posted 03/22/17 11:43am

laurarichardson

PennyPurple said:

 



laurarichardson said:


PennyPurple said:

 


She had already miscarried. You have a D & C after a miscarriage to clean out the uterine lining, to prevent infection and hemorrhaging.


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Again Laura, don't turn it into something that it is not.



You can also have a D&C to end a Pregnacy and it is not clear from the excerpt about what happened. We will find out when the book is out. I also posted a link about D&C. You always have something smart to say but you read nothing.

Stop Laura. Again you imply that she may have had an abortion. Stop with the unfound nonsense. It is common to have a D & C after a miscarriage.


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I thought you weren't reading the book? So where does "WE" come into play?


No once again you don't read do you. I have had a chance to read some of the bootlegged copy before the link went bad. The excerpt that is available is stating that she found out about complications and went to have a D&C. You can have them beforehand or after a miscarriages it is once again not clear from the excerpt. I believe she said on Hollywood Ex's it was a molar Pregnancy. The whine situation is something she has not been clear about.
See the excerpt that is suppose to be from the actual book.
This is suppose to be from an excerpt from the book. It is not clear to me if this was a D&C before or after. A medical intervention sounds like a before D&C.


She got pregnant once more in 1997, but the pregnancy wasn't viable, and she was told she needed a D&C. Prince, who had begun studying the teachings of JW's, a religion he ultimately joined, opposed medical intervention; she went ahead anyway. by the following year he was keeping company with Manuela Testolini, a consultant for his charity. He was becoming more strident in his religious beliefs, writing in a song that he believed God was displeased with his early life and Amiir's death was part of the price he had to pay. But it was his request to have their marriage annulled, so they could "continue it in a less traditional fashion", that proved to be the last straw. After their divorce in 2000, Garcia was told, Prince had his assistant burn everything that reminded him of Garcia or the baby. On New Year's Eve 2001 he and Manuela wed.
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Reply #522 posted 03/22/17 11:44am

precioux

laurarichardson said:

benni said:


The one thing that everyone is forgetting is just how young Mayte was during that time. Selling houses take time and they may be on the market for years before they sell, especially houses worth millions. Also, wasn't this during the time when the housing market was going bust? As for selling other items, look what happened when she attempted to sell items she had 20 years after the fact. Look at the blow-back from media, fans, etc. Imagine if she had tried to sell all of that at the moment they separated. Plus, I can imagine that in her mind that she wanted to hang on to those items because to her she wasn't ready to let go of the marriage.

No the housing bust happened in 2006.

The house was in Spain, which had NOTHING to do with the housing bust in the U.S. rolleyes

Reply #523 posted 03/22/17 11:44am

laurarichardson

benni said:

 



laurarichardson said:


benni said:

 



Look, I am saying that I don't know what she did or didn't do, but neither does anyone else.  As for gold digger comments, have never heard them, so can't address why she would want to portrayed in that manner, unless the show just ignored what she wanted or didn't want included and put the most controversial thing they could find.  As far as defending her, I would defend anyone that has people spouting opinions as fact in order to vilify that woman.  I am pointing out that for every negative you want to bring forth, there is another way to view it; that your opinion is not fact.  You've stated that you do not post anything that isn't based upon fact, and yet with Mayte you consistently post your opinion based upon your interpretation of things, and not backed by fact.  Again, I did read the whole thing that was said by the auction house and what they "SAID" Mayte supposedly said.  And again, there is another way to view that statement.  As I stated above.

And it is easy to see that no matter what Mayte does, there will always be some that will only ever portray Mayte as an evil woman, only worthy of their contempt and ire. 



--I am telling you about things she said out her own mouth. It is not my interpretation of anything. You choose not to seek out the info which is fine it does not change want she has said. 🙄


And as for seeking out info on Real Hollywood Ex-wives (or whatever it is called), I enjoy my brain cells and have no desire to watch it.  I have no interest in that show, regardless who is involved with it.  And I do not follow Mayte's career, nor have I ever had an interest to follow everyone that was a part of Prince's circle.  If I like their art, I'll look it up, otherwise, meh. 


Good response you have no idea what has been coming out of this women's mouth.
Reply #524 posted 03/22/17 11:44am

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame

benni said:


Not if Prince fought her on it. If Prince decided that he wanted the urn and did not want Mayte to have them, then the longer that would have drawn on would result in greater and greater legal charges. My son had a driving ticket and his lawyer kept extending the hearing date, each time he sent a letter to the court requesting an extension it cost my son $200. Then every letter the lawyer sent cost, every hour he spent on the case, cost my son more and more above the original $3000 retainer. We figured out that by the time the lawyer finally actually did something on the case and the judge finally threw the charges out of the window, my son, his father, and myself, had paid out over $120,000 to that lawyer.

In 30 years I have NEVER heard of a client paying an attorney $120,000 for a "driving ticket" unless it was vehicular homicide.

eek

Reply #525 posted 03/22/17 11:44am

benni

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

Stop Laura. Again you imply that she may have had an abortion. Stop with the unfound nonsense. It is common to have a D & C after a miscarriage.

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I thought you weren't reading the book? So where does "WE" come into play?

No once again you don't read do you. I have had a chance to read some of the bootlegged copy before the link went bad. The excerpt that is avalible is stating that she found out about complications and went to have a D&C. You can have them beforehand or after a miscarriages it is once again not clear from the excerpt. I believe she said on Hollywood Ex's it was a molar Pregnacy. The whine stituation is something she has not been clear about.


The bootleg copy may not have all the facts in it, or may have just been a rough draft that needed more added to it, more clarification, or whatever. It is by no means the final draft or what will be released in April.

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Reply #526 posted 03/22/17 11:47am

benni

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

benni said:


Not if Prince fought her on it. If Prince decided that he wanted the urn and did not want Mayte to have them, then the longer that would have drawn on would result in greater and greater legal charges. My son had a driving ticket and his lawyer kept extending the hearing date, each time he sent a letter to the court requesting an extension it cost my son $200. Then every letter the lawyer sent cost, every hour he spent on the case, cost my son more and more above the original $3000 retainer. We figured out that by the time the lawyer finally actually did something on the case and the judge finally threw the charges out of the window, my son, his father, and myself, had paid out over $120,000 to that lawyer.

In 30 years I have NEVER heard of a client paying an attorney $120,000 for a "driving ticket" unless it was vehicular homicide.

eek


I know, right!? I tried to talk my son into reporting this to the bar, but the lawyer actually threatened him with, "Well, then, I guess I'll do nothing and let the judge find you guilty, and you'll spend time in jail." (My son was at a party, went to his car to get something out of the center console, put the key in the ignition to work the light, and a cop pulled up and charged him with a DUI. It didn't matter that the engine was off, the keys were in the ignition.)

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Reply #527 posted 03/22/17 11:47am

BillieBalloon

benni said:

 



BillieBalloon said:


benni said:

 



Lawyers cost money.  Prince didn't leave her with any, if you recall. 



This is the same woman who had a saved a hundred thousand dollars by age 16.


And this is the same woman that married Prince, so those assets had been combined (probably) by that time. 




Prince took her money?

lol lol
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Reply #528 posted 03/22/17 11:48am

benni

BillieBalloon said:

benni said:


And this is the same woman that married Prince, so those assets had been combined (probably) by that time.

Prince took her money? lol lol


No, combined assets. She could have spent it during that time, while on tour, or if it was in a combined account and once he left her prevented her from access to that account. (Which is something that happened to me, so I know it is possible to occur.)

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Reply #529 posted 03/22/17 11:50am

laurarichardson

benni said:

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said: No once again you don't read do you. I have had a chance to read some of the bootlegged copy before the link went bad. The excerpt that is avalible is stating that she found out about complications and went to have a D&C. You can have them beforehand or after a miscarriages it is once again not clear from the excerpt. I believe she said on Hollywood Ex's it was a molar Pregnacy. The whine stituation is something she has not been clear about.


The bootleg copy may not have all the facts in it, or may have just been a rough draft that needed more added to it, more clarification, or whatever. It is by no means the final draft or what will be released in April.

This is suppose to be from an excert from the book. It is not clear to me if this was a D&C before or after. A medical intervention sounds like a before D&C.

She got pregnant once more in 1997, but the pregnancy wasn't viable, and she was told she needed a D&C. Prince, who had begun studying the teachings of JW's, a religion he ultimately joined, opposed medical intervention; she went ahead anyway. by the following year he was keeping company with Manuela Testolini, a consultant for his charity. He was becoming more strident in his religious beliefs, writing in a song that he believed God was displeased with his early life and Amiir's death was part of the price he had to pay. But it was his request to have their marriage annulled, so they could "continue it in a less traditional fashion", that proved to be the last straw. After their divorce in 2000, Garcia was told, Prince had his assistant burn everything that reminded him of Garcia or the baby. On New Year's Eve 2001 he and Manuela wed.

Reply #530 posted 03/22/17 11:51am

purplerabbithole

Where is the benefit of the doubt for Prince? I thought I was pretty fair to Mayte. I am not one of those people without sympathy for this woman. I just think we need to keep things in perspective. Mayte is not you or me. Her home in Spain was furnished, correct? She had clothes, jewerly in her closet in Spain?--its safe to assume. She was privy to private things about Prince that even an NDA wouldn't be enough to keep her from at least threatening to expose. Maybe, she didn't stick it to Prince because she didn't have a reason to.

It seems like people would rather think that Prince was so cruel that he would fight her tooth and nail over these ashes (just so he could destroy them) than think that maybe she just didn't want them with her anymore after having laid in bed with them for weeks with no closure or comfort? I guess we will have to see. But let's say he did do what I just mentioned. The next question would be "Why?". Do we assume its spite? Or that there is another reason?

benni said:

purplerabbithole said:

We don't know. But we have to use our common sense. There are a lot of young HOllywood wives who don't work (and probably signed NDA agreements) who are able to stick it to their famous rich husbands during divorce proceedings. How do they pull off--they often don't work either. No doubt, Mayte lived well with Prince and was given several gifts of jewerly, clothes etc. Even if she can't sell the house right way, there were other alternatives.

Mayte didn't get alimony or a lump sum like Eddie Murphy's wife etc and its only human if she is a little regretful or jealous, but I think the media might be exagerrating her destitution..or at least writing about it in relative terms. She was destitute compared to Heather Mills (McCartney's ex-wife).. I dont imagine she was destitute compared to the average unemployed divorcee.

Also with a NDA agreements, people can still threaten to break them for better settlements especially if Prince's offenses were really that serious. He would probably rather shut her up in the first place than have to sue her after the damage is already done to his public image.


Unfortunately, I know the other side of the experience when you are left destitute and have to start over completely. Also, if Mayte's things were kept in storage when he left her behind in Spain, then she may not have had access to those items until years later, when he finally gave her access to those things. And there were some things she was not given, as evidenced by the reports that Prince destroyed anything that reminded him of Mayte or the baby.

If we use common sense, then common sense says that things are not always black and white and there area always grey areas. People are wanting this to be black and white, but it's just not. There are too many variables to be able to hazard a definite guess as to how things played out. I prefer to reserve my judgment until after I get more details. I'm not going to judge Mayte for something that I know I don't have enough information to judge her for. However, there are those that it doesn't matter what information they have or don't have, they are going to vilify her no matter what. And I think that is just really unfair of them. If they don't like Mayte, fine. But stop trying to pass off opinion as fact, when they just don't have all the details to support those opinions as anything other than their opinion.

Reply #531 posted 03/22/17 11:51am

PennyPurple

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

Stop Laura. Again you imply that she may have had an abortion. Stop with the unfound nonsense. It is common to have a D & C after a miscarriage.

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I thought you weren't reading the book? So where does "WE" come into play?

No once again you don't read do you. I have had a chance to read some of the bootlegged copy before the link went bad. The excerpt that is avalible is stating that she found out about complications and went to have a D&C. You can have them beforehand or after a miscarriages it is once again not clear from the excerpt. I believe she said on Hollywood Ex's it was a molar Pregnacy. The whine stituation is something she has not been clear about.

I read just fine. Sometime the problem is the person who is posting a comment, that you can't make head or tails of.

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Again, stop implying things that you know nothing of. You've been told time and time again.

Reply #532 posted 03/22/17 11:52am

laurarichardson

precioux said:

laurarichardson said:

benni said: No the housing bust happened in 2006.

The house was in Spain, which had NOTHING to do with the housing bust in the U.S. rolleyes

So there was a housing bust in Spain in 2000 when she got the house or did the bust continue until 2006. Don't you see how silly this conversation is? She got a fucking mansion that she could sell or rent. She was not broke and if she was really concerned about money she would have got an attorney.

Reply #533 posted 03/22/17 11:52am

Misslink88

She was 26 years old when they split, certainly not a child. She had her parents and sister and who knows which friends to advise her. Her house sold in 2004. True, what she may or may not have done is anyone's guess. However, Prince is not above the law and any judge practicing law would have granted her something. Judges do follow the law, not their whims, and US laws specifically address this situation.

"Nonetheless, "because ashes can be divided, housed and spread in ways that a body cannot," courts may have some flexibility in fashioning a remedy. In In re Estate of K.A., the divorced parents of a deceased minor child, both of whom had authorized cremation, argued over the final disposition of the girl's cremated remains. After a hearing concerning the deceased girl's wishes regarding her ashes and after rejecting the mother's argument that a custodial parent should have the right to determine disposition of a deceased child's remains, the appellate court affirmed the trial court's decision that the girl's ashes should be divided equally between her parents. Apparently, the trial court had hoped that the parents would appeal its decision, as the parents in fact did, so as to "establish a proper" precedent so that no parents would be required to pursue this type of litigation in the future."

benni said:

Misslink88 said:

I understand she would be absolutely gutted at the turn of events at that time (both the child and the end of their relationship), which leads to... just what kind of a divorce lawyer did she have that they didn't look out for her interests? I can't believe she didn't have a conversation with her attorney about the child's urn even if she didn't receive any cash. But she did have a $4 million dollar house which is not really "next to nothing" especially in 1999. Additionally, she DID work afterward so there would have been an opportunity to contact a lawyer again later. The talk that he didn't stop her from doing anything would then also have implied not stopping her going to the press to say he wasn't giving her the urn or wouldn't discuss it. If she could mention that the loss of their child caused their marriage to break up, she could have also mentioned that she didn't have the urn.

Do we even know if she had a divorce lawyer? My divorce, my ex got a lawyer but I could not afford one. I had talked with my ex about what I wanted and expected, and luckily he agreed, but the day of the divorce our daughter was sick and I was not able to attend, and what I had wanted was not included in the divorce. The judge stated that he had no way of knowing if I had agreed with it and therefore would not put it in the divorce. As far as the house goes, that is not instant cash on hand to pay a lawyer, so it might as well be next to nothing. If you've ever tried to sell a house it can take a long time to sell. When did she go to work afterwards? How long after the divorce before she felt confident enough to go back to work? Did she earn enough to afford a lawyer? And besides that, how do we know that she didn't ask for the urn with Ahmir's ashes? She may have asked for them and Prince may have said "no". She may have hired a lawyer, but Prince had access to greater financial resources and could have kept her tied up in court (therefore costing much more than she might be able to afford).

I mean, I don't know how it played out, but then again, neither does anyone else who are stating, "she spent all those years and didn't ask for the baby's urn" or "no judge would deny her the remains" or ... It's all supposition on the part of the poster, that they are stating as fact and are upset with Mayte for not having done it. But the fact remains, they don't know what she did or didn't do during that time, and so I cannot understand why they are so upset with Mayte since they don't know.

God is my Sugar Daddy.
Reply #534 posted 03/22/17 11:53am

precioux

laurarichardson said:

1Sasha said:

On one of tthe Andy Allo threads, there was a comment about a Prince song lyric which said essentially that his second marriage was on the rebound, out of despair. I of course don't know if that was the case, but I could see him going to someone else to run away from the tragedy of his first marriage.

//Right now we can only go by the excerpt but if she had a D&C agaisnt his wishes that marriage was done.

Either you're one sick pup, or you don't know protocol after a miscarriage. I'm going to assume the latter.

The D&C was supposedly after Mayte's miscarriage (child #2). A D&C is normal protocol for the continuing health of the mother. I don't know any self respecting woman that would "bow down" to a man over her health. Stay on your misogynistic "P was the boss, and if you stepped out of line (even for your own health), you're done".... smdh

Reply #535 posted 03/22/17 11:55am

benni

laurarichardson said:

benni said:


The bootleg copy may not have all the facts in it, or may have just been a rough draft that needed more added to it, more clarification, or whatever. It is by no means the final draft or what will be released in April.

This is suppose to be from an excert from the book. It is not clear to me if this was a D&C before or after. A medical intervention sounds like a before D&C.

She got pregnant once more in 1997, but the pregnancy wasn't viable, and she was told she needed a D&C. Prince, who had begun studying the teachings of JW's, a religion he ultimately joined, opposed medical intervention; she went ahead anyway. by the following year he was keeping company with Manuela Testolini, a consultant for his charity. He was becoming more strident in his religious beliefs, writing in a song that he believed God was displeased with his early life and Amiir's death was part of the price he had to pay. But it was his request to have their marriage annulled, so they could "continue it in a less traditional fashion", that proved to be the last straw. After their divorce in 2000, Garcia was told, Prince had his assistant burn everything that reminded him of Garcia or the baby. On New Year's Eve 2001 he and Manuela wed.


That would be a D&C for a miscarriage. I've had 4 miscarriages, and the way the doctors would explain things to me was, "The pregnancy isn't viable." Meaning there is no heartbeat. Sometimes miscarriages will resolve themselves, but for everyone I had that was under medical care, they always recommended a D&C due to a non-viable pregnancy.

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Reply #536 posted 03/22/17 11:57am

benni

purplerabbithole said:

Where is the benefit of the doubt for Prince? I thought I was pretty fair to Mayte. I am not one of those people without sympathy for this woman. I just think we need to keep things in perspective. Mayte is not you or me. Her home in Spain was furnished, correct? She had clothes, jewerly in her closet in Spain?--its safe to assume. She was privy to private things about Prince that even an NDA wouldn't be enough to keep her from at least threatening to expose. Maybe, she didn't stick it to Prince because she didn't have a reason to.

It seems like people would rather think that Prince was so cruel that he would fight her tooth and nail over these ashes (just so he could destroy them) than think that maybe she just didn't want them with her anymore after having laid in bed with them for weeks with no closure or comfort? I guess we will have to see. But let's say he did do what I just mentioned. The next question would be "Why?". Do we assume its spite? Or that there is another reason?

benni said:


Unfortunately, I know the other side of the experience when you are left destitute and have to start over completely. Also, if Mayte's things were kept in storage when he left her behind in Spain, then she may not have had access to those items until years later, when he finally gave her access to those things. And there were some things she was not given, as evidenced by the reports that Prince destroyed anything that reminded him of Mayte or the baby.

If we use common sense, then common sense says that things are not always black and white and there area always grey areas. People are wanting this to be black and white, but it's just not. There are too many variables to be able to hazard a definite guess as to how things played out. I prefer to reserve my judgment until after I get more details. I'm not going to judge Mayte for something that I know I don't have enough information to judge her for. However, there are those that it doesn't matter what information they have or don't have, they are going to vilify her no matter what. And I think that is just really unfair of them. If they don't like Mayte, fine. But stop trying to pass off opinion as fact, when they just don't have all the details to support those opinions as anything other than their opinion.



And yet it is okay to assume that Mayte was an uncaring individual who didn't ask for her son's ashes? There are always 2 sides to every story, and the truth is generally somewhere in the middle. I'm not vilifying Prince, but I'm not going to vilify Mayte either. I don't know their story. I wasn't there. I didn't experience it. Mayte did and Prince did, and they are the only ones that know the truth. My whole point has been: "How do you know?" when someone makes another accusation against Mayte as though that accusation is fact.

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Reply #537 posted 03/22/17 12:00pm

benni

laurarichardson said:

precioux said:

The house was in Spain, which had NOTHING to do with the housing bust in the U.S. rolleyes

So there was a housing bust in Spain in 2000 when she got the house or did the bust continue until 2006. Don't you see how silly this conversation is? She got a fucking mansion that she could sell or rent. She was not broke and if she was really concerned about money she would have got an attorney.


As I have said before, it can take years to sell a house. And yes, I did not take into consideration the house was in Spain, and I would not keep up with the housing market in Spain. Do you?

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Reply #538 posted 03/22/17 12:02pm

PennyPurple

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

Stop Laura. Again you imply that she may have had an abortion. Stop with the unfound nonsense. It is common to have a D & C after a miscarriage.

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I thought you weren't reading the book? So where does "WE" come into play?

No once again you don't read do you. I have had a chance to read some of the bootlegged copy before the link went bad. The excerpt that is available is stating that she found out about complications and went to have a D&C. You can have them beforehand or after a miscarriages it is once again not clear from the excerpt. I believe she said on Hollywood Ex's it was a molar Pregnancy. The whine situation is something she has not been clear about. See the excerpt that is suppose to be from the actual book. This is suppose to be from an excerpt from the book. It is not clear to me if this was a D&C before or after. A medical intervention sounds like a before D&C. She got pregnant once more in 1997, but the pregnancy wasn't viable, and she was told she needed a D&C. Prince, who had begun studying the teachings of JW's, a religion he ultimately joined, opposed medical intervention; she went ahead anyway. by the following year he was keeping company with Manuela Testolini, a consultant for his charity. He was becoming more strident in his religious beliefs, writing in a song that he believed God was displeased with his early life and Amiir's death was part of the price he had to pay. But it was his request to have their marriage annulled, so they could "continue it in a less traditional fashion", that proved to be the last straw. After their divorce in 2000, Garcia was told, Prince had his assistant burn everything that reminded him of Garcia or the baby. On New Year's Eve 2001 he and Manuela wed. -------- [Edited 3/22/17 11:54am]

Of course I read Laura....It is my quote from post #241 that you copied from. I posted that article from the hard copy of People Magazine.

Reply #539 posted 03/22/17 12:02pm

sonshine

PennyPurple said:

 



laurarichardson said:


PennyPurple said:

 


She had already miscarried. You have a D & C after a miscarriage to clean out the uterine lining, to prevent infection and hemorrhaging.


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Again Laura, don't turn it into something that it is not.



You can also have a D&C to end a Pregnacy and it is not clear from the excerpt about what happened. We will find out when the book is out. I also posted a link about D&C. You always have something smart to say but you read nothing.

Stop Laura. Again you imply that she may have had an abortion. Stop with the unfound nonsense. It is common to have a D & C after a miscarriage.


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I thought you weren't reading the book? So where does "WE" come into play?


I didn't think you were reading the book. But you keep referring to the excerpts. Besides i have heard from someone who has read the book. He was on here correcting the misinformation and yet you still continue with this campaign to smear Mayte. Its already been confirmed in the book that there was no annul lment. Yet that continued to still be debated here. When asked to provide proof of some alleged harassment towards apples by mayte's people you conveniently dropped that subject but not after debating it here for nonsense purposes. Now it's the remains you are debating and the settlement. This is one tiny piece of her story. You are making a big to-do out of NOTHING! It's as simple as Mayte being young, in grief, on the other side of the world, her life turned upside down. I'm sure she didn't know what happened to many of her belongings. Im sure she didnt want anything because she believed for quite some time that they would get back together! That would put her mindset in an entirely different place than worrying about material things or a divorce settlement. And now that I consider that I'm pretty sure he used her naivte to his full advantage. Also do we dare to hope this means you are actually going to let the book be the final word on the subject of prince and mayte? That seems hard to believe Lol
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Reply #540 posted 03/22/17 12:03pm

1Sasha

As far as the baby's remains were concerned: maybe they had an arrangement that the child would be interred at Paisley Park. Maybe she thought that had happened, and then she learned it had not.

I'll be honest with you: if my child had been born with defects like their first child, I would never have had another biological child. I wouldn't want a baby to suffer like that. Since they apparently didn't know which side carried that gene, I can't understand how they would risk it. There are plenty of babies to adopt. But I do remember reading that someone said Prince commented that hair dye and other similar products could have caused his first child's problems. Totally ridiculous, but maybe for all his musical brilliance he did not know biology and/or science.

Reply #541 posted 03/22/17 12:04pm

benni

Misslink88 said:

She was 26 years old when they split, certainly not a child. She had her parents and sister and who knows which friends to advise her. Her house sold in 2004. True, what she may or may not have done is anyone's guess. However, Prince is not above the law and any judge practicing law would have granted her something. Judges do follow the law, not their whims, and US laws specifically address this situation.

"Nonetheless, "because ashes can be divided, housed and spread in ways that a body cannot," courts may have some flexibility in fashioning a remedy. In In re Estate of K.A., the divorced parents of a deceased minor child, both of whom had authorized cremation, argued over the final disposition of the girl's cremated remains. After a hearing concerning the deceased girl's wishes regarding her ashes and after rejecting the mother's argument that a custodial parent should have the right to determine disposition of a deceased child's remains, the appellate court affirmed the trial court's decision that the girl's ashes should be divided equally between her parents. Apparently, the trial court had hoped that the parents would appeal its decision, as the parents in fact did, so as to "establish a proper" precedent so that no parents would be required to pursue this type of litigation in the future."

benni said:

Do we even know if she had a divorce lawyer? My divorce, my ex got a lawyer but I could not afford one. I had talked with my ex about what I wanted and expected, and luckily he agreed, but the day of the divorce our daughter was sick and I was not able to attend, and what I had wanted was not included in the divorce. The judge stated that he had no way of knowing if I had agreed with it and therefore would not put it in the divorce. As far as the house goes, that is not instant cash on hand to pay a lawyer, so it might as well be next to nothing. If you've ever tried to sell a house it can take a long time to sell. When did she go to work afterwards? How long after the divorce before she felt confident enough to go back to work? Did she earn enough to afford a lawyer? And besides that, how do we know that she didn't ask for the urn with Ahmir's ashes? She may have asked for them and Prince may have said "no". She may have hired a lawyer, but Prince had access to greater financial resources and could have kept her tied up in court (therefore costing much more than she might be able to afford).

I mean, I don't know how it played out, but then again, neither does anyone else who are stating, "she spent all those years and didn't ask for the baby's urn" or "no judge would deny her the remains" or ... It's all supposition on the part of the poster, that they are stating as fact and are upset with Mayte for not having done it. But the fact remains, they don't know what she did or didn't do during that time, and so I cannot understand why they are so upset with Mayte since they don't know.



As a mother, I would NEVER want my child's ashes to be divided and if that were given to me as an option, I would let go of asking for them. So, how do we know that Mayte didn't feel the same? We don't.

As for the money and availability of resources, people are condemning Mayte for not hiring a lawyer to get her son's ashes from Prince. I am merely pointing out that she may not have had access to those finances immediately to be able to do that. The fact remains is that those that are saying Mayte should have gotten lawyer to get her son's ashes don't know if she did or didn't do that. We don't know. So why then does this continue to be brought forth as one more thing to vilifiy Mayte for?

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Reply #542 posted 03/22/17 12:05pm

BillieBalloon

benni said:

 



BillieBalloon said:


benni said:

 



And this is the same woman that married Prince, so those assets had been combined (probably) by that time. 



Prince took her money? lol lol


No, combined assets.  She could have spent it during that time, while on tour, or if it was in a combined account and once he left her prevented her from access to that account.  (Which is something that happened to me, so I know it is possible to occur.) 




Prince would not have prevented her access to money she has earned whether combined or not. You are still implying he took her money.
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Reply #543 posted 03/22/17 12:05pm

precioux

laurarichardson said:

precioux said:

The house was in Spain, which had NOTHING to do with the housing bust in the U.S. rolleyes

So there was a housing bust in Spain in 2000 when she got the house or did the bust continue until 2006. Don't you see how silly this conversation is? She got a fucking mansion that she could sell or rent. She was not broke and if she was really concerned about money she would have got an attorney.

LIKE I SAID...THE HOUSE SHE GOT FROM PRINCE WAS LOCATED IN SPAIN....THIS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH A "U.S. MARKET BUST IN 2006"....is that better? or do you need a translator as well?

Reply #544 posted 03/22/17 12:05pm

laurarichardson

precioux said:

laurarichardson said:

1Sasha said: //Right now we can only go by the excerpt but if she had a D&C agaisnt his wishes that marriage was done.

Either you're one sick pup, or you don't know protocol after a miscarriage. I'm going to assume the latter.

The D&C was supposedly after Mayte's miscarriage (child #2). A D&C is normal protocol for the continuing health of the mother. I don't know any self respecting woman that would "bow down" to a man over her health. Stay on your misogynistic "P was the boss, and if you stepped out of line (even for your own health), you're done".... smdh

This the excert from the book. How do you think it reads?

---------

This is suppose to be from an excert from the book. It is not clear to me if this was a D&C before or after. A medical intervention sounds like a before D&C.

She got pregnant once more in 1997, but the pregnancy wasn't viable, and she was told she needed a D&C. Prince, who had begun studying the teachings of JW's, a religion he ultimately joined, opposed medical intervention; she went ahead anyway. by the following year he was keeping company with Manuela Testolini, a consultant for his charity. He was becoming more strident in his religious beliefs, writing in a song that he believed God was displeased with his early life and Amiir's death was part of the price he had to pay. But it was his request to have their marriage annulled, so they could "continue it in a less traditional fashion", that proved to be the last straw. After their divorce in 2000, Garcia was told, Prince had his assistant burn everything that reminded him of Garcia or the baby. On New Year's Eve 2001 he and Manuela wed.

----

See that D&C are done after an abortion. At this point to me it is not clear what went on. I cannot see the sense of the passage above if she already has lost the child she would have not been having an medical intervention because she would have already lost the baby. I believe his objections may have due to the baby having complications as she said this was a molar pregnacy.

http://www.webmd.com/women/guide/d-and-c-dilation-and-curettage#1

[Edited 3/22/17 12:09pm]

Reply #545 posted 03/22/17 12:06pm

purplerabbithole

Do you really think Prince would want the world to know he was fighting with his wife over his baby ashes? At worst he would look like a douche..at best their privacy would be out the window. I believe the fight never happened because the mere threat of ignoring the NDA and telling the world about it would have gotten him to ease up on it.

benni said:

purplerabbithole said:

Well that brings us back to the original divorce settlement. She could have taken him for more than she did AND asked for the ashes.

Regardless, if her only concern was obtaining the ashes, wouldn't the lawyer fees be less and therefore something she could have paid for by liquidifying some of her assets?--ie gifts etc.


Not if Prince fought her on it. If Prince decided that he wanted the urn and did not want Mayte to have them, then the longer that would have drawn on would result in greater and greater legal charges. My son had a driving ticket and his lawyer kept extending the hearing date, each time he sent a letter to the court requesting an extension it cost my son $200. Then every letter the lawyer sent cost, every hour he spent on the case, cost my son more and more above the original $3000 retainer. We figured out that by the time the lawyer finally actually did something on the case and the judge finally threw the charges out of the window, my son, his father, and myself, had paid out over $120,000 to that lawyer.

Reply #546 posted 03/22/17 12:07pm

benni

BillieBalloon said:

benni said:


No, combined assets. She could have spent it during that time, while on tour, or if it was in a combined account and once he left her prevented her from access to that account. (Which is something that happened to me, so I know it is possible to occur.)

Prince would not have prevented her access to money she has earned whether combined or not. You are still implying he took her money.


How do you know that? You don't. Just as I don't know whether he did or didn't. So why continue to argue that she could have hired a lawyer and done a, b, c? No one knows what she did or didn't do, what she had access to and what she didn't have access to, or how any of it played out.

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Reply #547 posted 03/22/17 12:08pm

laurarichardson

precioux said:

laurarichardson said:

So there was a housing bust in Spain in 2000 when she got the house or did the bust continue until 2006. Don't you see how silly this conversation is? She got a fucking mansion that she could sell or rent. She was not broke and if she was really concerned about money she would have got an attorney.

LIKE I SAID...THE HOUSE SHE GOT FROM PRINCE WAS LOCATED IN SPAIN....THIS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH A "U.S. MARKET BUST IN 2006"....is that better? or do you need a translator as well?

No but you need one. The orignal poster was stating that maybe she had a hard time getting rid of the house perhaps because of the housing crash. I responded that the crash took place in 2006.

Not 2000 when she got it. Do you get it now. Crash would have nothing to do with her having a problem selling the house in the early 2000s.

Damm!!! eek

Reply #548 posted 03/22/17 12:08pm

benni

precioux said:

laurarichardson said:

So there was a housing bust in Spain in 2000 when she got the house or did the bust continue until 2006. Don't you see how silly this conversation is? She got a fucking mansion that she could sell or rent. She was not broke and if she was really concerned about money she would have got an attorney.

LIKE I SAID...THE HOUSE SHE GOT FROM PRINCE WAS LOCATED IN SPAIN....THIS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH A "U.S. MARKET BUST IN 2006"....is that better? or do you need a translator as well?


precioux she was being facetious towards what I had said. If you see my reply, I don't keep up with the housing market in Spain and was not taking into consideration that the house was in Spain.

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Reply #549 posted 03/22/17 12:08pm

precioux

benni said:

laurarichardson said:

So there was a housing bust in Spain in 2000 when she got the house or did the bust continue until 2006. Don't you see how silly this conversation is? She got a fucking mansion that she could sell or rent. She was not broke and if she was really concerned about money she would have got an attorney.


As I have said before, it can take years to sell a house. And yes, I did not take into consideration the house was in Spain, and I would not keep up with the housing market in Spain. Do you?

No, I don't keep up with the market in Spain, but once again, laurarichardson is trying to tie the 2 together and insinuate that it is" silly" to not realize the connection nuts ....I think there's a "connection" link missing in her damn head rolleyes

Reply #550 posted 03/22/17 12:09pm

sonshine

PennyPurple said:

 



laurarichardson said:


PennyPurple said:

 


Stop Laura. Again you imply that she may have had an abortion. Stop with the unfound nonsense. It is common to have a D & C after a miscarriage.


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I thought you weren't reading the book? So where does "WE" come into play?



No once again you don't read do you. I have had a chance to read some of the bootlegged copy before the link went bad. The excerpt that is available is stating that she found out about complications and went to have a D&C. You can have them beforehand or after a miscarriages it is once again not clear from the excerpt. I believe she said on Hollywood Ex's it was a molar Pregnancy. The whine situation is something she has not been clear about. See the excerpt that is suppose to be from the actual book. This is suppose to be from an excerpt from the book. It is not clear to me if this was a D&C before or after. A medical intervention sounds like a before D&C. She got pregnant once more in 1997, but the pregnancy wasn't viable, and she was told she needed a D&C. Prince, who had begun studying the teachings of JW's, a religion he ultimately joined, opposed medical intervention; she went ahead anyway. by the following year he was keeping company with Manuela Testolini, a consultant for his charity. He was becoming more strident in his religious beliefs, writing in a song that he believed God was displeased with his early life and Amiir's death was part of the price he had to pay. But it was his request to have their marriage annulled, so they could "continue it in a less traditional fashion", that proved to be the last straw. After their divorce in 2000, Garcia was told, Prince had his assistant burn everything that reminded him of Garcia or the baby. On New Year's Eve 2001 he and Manuela wed. ----- [Edited 3/22/17 11:54am]

Of course I read Laura....It is my quote from post #241 that you copied from. I posted that article from the hard copy of People Magazine.


There is no before or after! A molar pregnancy is not a true pregnancy so there is no viable life. A D&C is the required treatment for this condition. It's not the medical community's fault that some crazy pseudo religion doesn't understand basic anatomy and physiology. Geesh
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Reply #551 posted 03/22/17 12:09pm

Misslink88

benni said:

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said: No once again you don't read do you. I have had a chance to read some of the bootlegged copy before the link went bad. The excerpt that is avalible is stating that she found out about complications and went to have a D&C. You can have them beforehand or after a miscarriages it is once again not clear from the excerpt. I believe she said on Hollywood Ex's it was a molar Pregnacy. The whine stituation is something she has not been clear about.


The bootleg copy may not have all the facts in it, or may have just been a rough draft that needed more added to it, more clarification, or whatever. It is by no means the final draft or what will be released in April.

I believe you are correct. I think people have been making notes and her book is being updated as we speak addressing the comments that have been made about what was released in the press (and the bootleg copy).

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Reply #552 posted 03/22/17 12:11pm

PennyPurple

laurarichardson said:

precioux said:

Either you're one sick pup, or you don't know protocol after a miscarriage. I'm going to assume the latter.

The D&C was supposedly after Mayte's miscarriage (child #2). A D&C is normal protocol for the continuing health of the mother. I don't know any self respecting woman that would "bow down" to a man over her health. Stay on your misogynistic "P was the boss, and if you stepped out of line (even for your own health), you're done".... smdh

This the excert from the book. How do you think it reads?

---------

This is suppose to be from an excert from the book. It is not clear to me if this was a D&C before or after. A medical intervention sounds like a before D&C.

She got pregnant once more in 1997, but the pregnancy wasn't viable, and she was told she needed a D&C. Prince, who had begun studying the teachings of JW's, a religion he ultimately joined, opposed medical intervention; she went ahead anyway. by the following year he was keeping company with Manuela Testolini, a consultant for his charity. He was becoming more strident in his religious beliefs, writing in a song that he believed God was displeased with his early life and Amiir's death was part of the price he had to pay. But it was his request to have their marriage annulled, so they could "continue it in a less traditional fashion", that proved to be the last straw. After their divorce in 2000, Garcia was told, Prince had his assistant burn everything that reminded him of Garcia or the baby. On New Year's Eve 2001 he and Manuela wed.

----

See that D&C are done after an abortion. At this point to me it is not clear what went on. I cannot see the sense of the passage below if she already has lost the child she would have not been having an medical intervention because she would have already lost the baby. I believe his objections may have due to the baby having complications as she said this was a molar pregnacy.

http://www.webmd.com/women/guide/d-and-c-dilation-and-curettage#1

There you go with the abortion thing again. Can YOU not read. A D&C is common after miscarriages, it cleans out the uterine cavity so the woman doesn't get an infection or start hemmorhaging.

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STOP with the abortion nonsense. People have explained it to you, post after post.

Reply #553 posted 03/22/17 12:12pm

benni

laurarichardson said:

precioux said:

Either you're one sick pup, or you don't know protocol after a miscarriage. I'm going to assume the latter.

The D&C was supposedly after Mayte's miscarriage (child #2). A D&C is normal protocol for the continuing health of the mother. I don't know any self respecting woman that would "bow down" to a man over her health. Stay on your misogynistic "P was the boss, and if you stepped out of line (even for your own health), you're done".... smdh

This the excert from the book. How do you think it reads?

---------

This is suppose to be from an excert from the book. It is not clear to me if this was a D&C before or after. A medical intervention sounds like a before D&C.

She got pregnant once more in 1997, but the pregnancy wasn't viable, and she was told she needed a D&C. Prince, who had begun studying the teachings of JW's, a religion he ultimately joined, opposed medical intervention; she went ahead anyway. by the following year he was keeping company with Manuela Testolini, a consultant for his charity. He was becoming more strident in his religious beliefs, writing in a song that he believed God was displeased with his early life and Amiir's death was part of the price he had to pay. But it was his request to have their marriage annulled, so they could "continue it in a less traditional fashion", that proved to be the last straw. After their divorce in 2000, Garcia was told, Prince had his assistant burn everything that reminded him of Garcia or the baby. On New Year's Eve 2001 he and Manuela wed.

----

See that D&C are done after an abortion. At this point to me it is not clear what went on. I cannot see the sense of the passage above if she already has lost the child she would have not been having an medical intervention because she would have already lost the baby. I believe his objections may have due to the baby having complications as she said this was a molar pregnacy.

http://www.webmd.com/women/guide/d-and-c-dilation-and-curettage#1

[Edited 3/22/17 12:09pm]


The medical intervention, Laura, is in the D&C and evacuating any remains in the womb to prevent any infection or bleeding complications. Again, as this supposed excerpt is written, this is a D&C for a miscarriage. I've had 4 miscarriages, I know the terminology the doctors would use to state there is no heartbeat. They state (and have stated to me when I've miscarried), "The pregnancy is not viable."

[Edited 3/22/17 12:13pm]

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Reply #554 posted 03/22/17 12:13pm

PennyPurple

precioux said:

benni said:


As I have said before, it can take years to sell a house. And yes, I did not take into consideration the house was in Spain, and I would not keep up with the housing market in Spain. Do you?

No, I don't keep up with the market in Spain, but once again, laurarichardson is trying to tie the 2 together and insinuate that it is" silly" to not realize the connection nuts ....I think there's a "connection" link missing in her damn head rolleyes

thumbs up!

Reply #555 posted 03/22/17 12:16pm

sonshine

PennyPurple said:

 



precioux said:


 



benni said:


 



As I have said before, it can take years to sell a house.  And yes, I did not take into consideration the house was in Spain, and I would not keep up with the housing market in Spain.  Do you? 



No, I don't keep up with the market in Spain, but once again, laurarichardson is trying to tie the 2 together and insinuate that it is" silly" to not realize the connection nuts ....I think there's a "connection" link missing in her damn head rolleyes



thumbs up!


The ignorance is going to make my head explode. As I said do we dare hope the released book will he her last word on this? Ha!
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Reply #556 posted 03/22/17 12:17pm

precioux

laurarichardson said:

precioux said:

LIKE I SAID...THE HOUSE SHE GOT FROM PRINCE WAS LOCATED IN SPAIN....THIS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH A "U.S. MARKET BUST IN 2006"....is that better? or do you need a translator as well?

No but you need one. The orignal poster was stating that maybe she had a hard time getting rid of the house perhaps because of the housing crash. I responded that the crash took place in 2006.

Not 2000 when she got it. Do you get it now. Crash would have nothing to do with her having a problem selling the house in the early 2000s.

Damm!!! eek

Exactly...the housing bust was in the U.S. in 2006, not in Spain (which I originally pointed out), where the house was located.....................there is NO connection between the 2. The bust in the U.S. was irrelavant in Spain, once again....rhetorical jargon on your end, but of course YOU DON'T GET THAT

Reply #557 posted 03/22/17 12:18pm

benni

precioux said:

benni said:


As I have said before, it can take years to sell a house. And yes, I did not take into consideration the house was in Spain, and I would not keep up with the housing market in Spain. Do you?

No, I don't keep up with the market in Spain, but once again, laurarichardson is trying to tie the 2 together and insinuate that it is" silly" to not realize the connection nuts ....I think there's a "connection" link missing in her damn head rolleyes


My question was to laura, but thanks for answering! I don't think laura is missing a link in her head, lol (that was a funny picture in my head), but I do think that she is trying to pass off conjecture of intention and/or meaning as fact, rather than realizing that she is interpreting things based off of her own prejudice against Mayte. Myself, I would rather wait and get the full picture, rather than making a snap judgment off a partial story or off my own interpretation of things. I don't know what happened, and what I've suggested are merely suppositions to show that things can be interpreted in more than one way. I have no prejudice for or against Prince or Mayte or anyone else that was involved with Prince. I would rather get the full picture before passing any judgments.

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Reply #558 posted 03/22/17 12:19pm

PennyPurple

sonshine said:

PennyPurple said:

thumbs up!

The ignorance is going to make my head explode. As I said do we dare hope the released book will he her last word on this? Ha!

I'm tellin ya. beatdeadhorse

Reply #559 posted 03/22/17 12:19pm

purplerabbithole

Thanks for the clarification. A miscarriage can run its course by itself. In some cases, a D and C is recommended but not absolutely necesssary. In some cases, it is absolutely essential (especially like you said, under medical care). There is grey area here. She made the right decision. He may not have seen how necessary it was. Plus, I think Prince was a bit paranoid about doctors...(which might have partly contributed to his own death.)

Sorry about your miscarriages. That's terribly sad.

benni said:

laurarichardson said:

This is suppose to be from an excert from the book. It is not clear to me if this was a D&C before or after. A medical intervention sounds like a before D&C.

She got pregnant once more in 1997, but the pregnancy wasn't viable, and she was told she needed a D&C. Prince, who had begun studying the teachings of JW's, a religion he ultimately joined, opposed medical intervention; she went ahead anyway. by the following year he was keeping company with Manuela Testolini, a consultant for his charity. He was becoming more strident in his religious beliefs, writing in a song that he believed God was displeased with his early life and Amiir's death was part of the price he had to pay. But it was his request to have their marriage annulled, so they could "continue it in a less traditional fashion", that proved to be the last straw. After their divorce in 2000, Garcia was told, Prince had his assistant burn everything that reminded him of Garcia or the baby. On New Year's Eve 2001 he and Manuela wed.


That would be a D&C for a miscarriage. I've had 4 miscarriages, and the way the doctors would explain things to me was, "The pregnancy isn't viable." Meaning there is no heartbeat. Sometimes miscarriages will resolve themselves, but for everyone I had that was under medical care, they always recommended a D&C due to a non-viable pregnancy.

Reply #560 posted 03/22/17 12:27pm

precioux

laurarichardson said:

precioux said:

Either you're one sick pup, or you don't know protocol after a miscarriage. I'm going to assume the latter.

The D&C was supposedly after Mayte's miscarriage (child #2). A D&C is normal protocol for the continuing health of the mother. I don't know any self respecting woman that would "bow down" to a man over her health. Stay on your misogynistic "P was the boss, and if you stepped out of line (even for your own health), you're done".... smdh

This the excert from the book. How do you think it reads?

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This is suppose to be from an excert from the book. It is not clear to me if this was a D&C before or after. A medical intervention sounds like a before D&C.

She got pregnant once more in 1997, but the pregnancy wasn't viable, and she was told she needed a D&C. Prince, who had begun studying the teachings of JW's, a religion he ultimately joined, opposed medical intervention; she went ahead anyway. by the following year he was keeping company with Manuela Testolini, a consultant for his charity. He was becoming more strident in his religious beliefs, writing in a song that he believed God was displeased with his early life and Amiir's death was part of the price he had to pay. But it was his request to have their marriage annulled, so they could "continue it in a less traditional fashion", that proved to be the last straw. After their divorce in 2000, Garcia was told, Prince had his assistant burn everything that reminded him of Garcia or the baby. On New Year's Eve 2001 he and Manuela wed.

----

See that D&C are done after an abortion. At this point to me it is not clear what went on. I cannot see the sense of the passage above if she already has lost the child she would have not been having an medical intervention because she would have already lost the baby. I believe his objections may have due to the baby having complications as she said this was a molar pregnacy.

http://www.webmd.com/women/guide/d-and-c-dilation-and-curettage#1

[Edited 3/22/17 12:09pm]

1. it's "excerpt"...not excert

2. This was 1997, so it was the 2nd pregnancy (common sense)

3. Mayte did NOT ABORT a child, QUIT SPEWING YOUR BULLSHIT!

4. Although you said you had a "bootleg" copy of Mayte's book, you stated that you weren't reading it....once again-contradicting statements on your end.

5. Even though you may be reading it, if your grammar skills parallel your comprehehsion skills, IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW

6. EXACTLY WHY are you reading a "bootleg" copy of Mayte's book, whom you despise and are trying to villify on this board? Are you a psycho stalker???

Reply #561 posted 03/22/17 12:29pm

sonshine

Again, i think it's important to remeember that Mayte believed they would get back together. That's what was foremost in her thoughts for some amount of time. To me it explains a lot about why or how things went down, at least initially. And that belief was due in large part to some falso hope he gave her. It's all in the book! Lol
[Edited 3/22/17 12:30pm]
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Reply #562 posted 03/22/17 12:29pm

benni

purplerabbithole said:

Thanks for the clarification. A miscarriage can run its course by itself. In some cases, a D and C is recommended but not absolutely necesssary. In some cases, it is absolutely essential (especially like you said, under medical care). There is grey area here. She made the right decision. He may not have seen how necessary it was. Plus, I think Prince was a bit paranoid about doctors...(which might have partly contributed to his own death.)

Sorry about your miscarriages. That's terribly sad.

benni said:


That would be a D&C for a miscarriage. I've had 4 miscarriages, and the way the doctors would explain things to me was, "The pregnancy isn't viable." Meaning there is no heartbeat. Sometimes miscarriages will resolve themselves, but for everyone I had that was under medical care, they always recommended a D&C due to a non-viable pregnancy.



Yes, a miscarriage can run its course. Many women miscarry and never even know they were pregnant to begin with, or know they are having a miscarriage. They may be a couple of weeks late and then have a heavier than normal period, and just think they are making up for being late, not realizing they are actually going through a miscarriage. Sometimes it is found because the woman has an appointment with the doctor, or OB, mentions being late and the heavier period and the doctor orders a test. So a D&C isn't always necessary and things do resolve on their own.

For myself, I was a high risk pregnancy with each of my pregnancies and was at a greater than average risk of miscarry, low birth weight, or still born births due to clotting issues. I have 3 wonderful children: 32, 16, and 13, 4 miscarriages, and one stillborn daughter. Losing a baby is never easy, no matter how far along you are. (And speaking of the ashes, I can understand Mayte not having the ashes. I have never visited my daughter's grave. I can't. I just can't.) But thank you for your comments.

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Reply #563 posted 03/22/17 12:36pm

precioux

1Sasha said:

As far as the baby's remains were concerned: maybe they had an arrangement that the child would be interred at Paisley Park. Maybe she thought that had happened, and then she learned it had not.

I'll be honest with you: if my child had been born with defects like their first child, I would never have had another biological child. I wouldn't want a baby to suffer like that. Since they apparently didn't know which side carried that gene, I can't understand how they would risk it. There are plenty of babies to adopt. But I do remember reading that someone said Prince commented that hair dye and other similar products could have caused his first child's problems. Totally ridiculous, but maybe for all his musical brilliance he did not know biology and/or science.

Yes, I read that as well. But think about it...that would be contradicting himself, as we all know that he demanded his girlfriends/protoges of interest/wives dress exactly as he wanted morning noon and night...maybe not towards the end of his life, but definitely during the time frame referenced

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Reply #564 posted 03/22/17 12:41pm

sonshine

precioux said:

 



1Sasha said:


As far as the baby's remains were concerned:  maybe they had an arrangement that the child would be interred at Paisley Park.  Maybe she thought that had happened, and then she learned it had not. 


 


I'll be honest with you:  if my child had been born with defects like their first child, I would never have had another biological child.  I wouldn't want a baby to suffer like that.  Since they apparently didn't know which side carried that gene, I can't understand how they would risk it.  There are plenty of babies to adopt.  But I do remember reading that someone said Prince commented that hair dye and other similar products could have caused his first child's problems.  Totally ridiculous, but maybe for all his musical brilliance he did not know biology and/or science.



Yes, I read that as well. But think about it...that would be contradicting himself, as we all know that he demanded his girlfriends/protoges of interest/wives dress exactly as he wanted morning noon and night


I listened to an interview with his hairdresser Kim who said p was always "fly" and everyone around him needed to be too or else wink
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Reply #565 posted 03/22/17 12:45pm

BillieBalloon

sonshine said:

Again, i think it's important to remeember that Mayte believed they would get back together. That's what was foremost in her thoughts for some amount of time. To me it explains a lot about why or how things went down, at least initially. And that belief was due in large part to some falso hope he gave her. It's all in the book! Lol
[Edited 3/22/17 12:30pm]



I agree she wanted to get back together but i dont believe Prince gave her false hope. He married amother woman! Mayte says they werent in touch and he even asked her to pay for concert tickets.


Please post where Prince gave her false hope. The hope was hers, not Princes.
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Reply #566 posted 03/22/17 12:54pm

Misslink88

benni said:

laurarichardson said:

So there was a housing bust in Spain in 2000 when she got the house or did the bust continue until 2006. Don't you see how silly this conversation is? She got a fucking mansion that she could sell or rent. She was not broke and if she was really concerned about money she would have got an attorney.


As I have said before, it can take years to sell a house. And yes, I did not take into consideration the house was in Spain, and I would not keep up with the housing market in Spain. Do you?

The house in Marbella, Spain SOLD in 2004 according to news releases.

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Reply #567 posted 03/22/17 12:56pm

benni

Misslink88 said:

benni said:


As I have said before, it can take years to sell a house. And yes, I did not take into consideration the house was in Spain, and I would not keep up with the housing market in Spain. Do you?

The house in Marbella, Spain SOLD in 2004 according to news releases.


So, it did take years since they were divorced in 2000 and the house sold in 2004.

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Reply #568 posted 03/22/17 1:00pm

precioux

Misslink88 said:

benni said:


As I have said before, it can take years to sell a house. And yes, I did not take into consideration the house was in Spain, and I would not keep up with the housing market in Spain. Do you?

The house in Marbella, Spain SOLD in 2004 according to news releases.

well, there ya go!

Thanks for looking that up, Misslink88 wink

Reply #569 posted 03/22/17 1:01pm

morningsong

laurarichardson said:

precioux said:

Either you're one sick pup, or you don't know protocol after a miscarriage. I'm going to assume the latter.

The D&C was supposedly after Mayte's miscarriage (child #2). A D&C is normal protocol for the continuing health of the mother. I don't know any self respecting woman that would "bow down" to a man over her health. Stay on your misogynistic "P was the boss, and if you stepped out of line (even for your own health), you're done".... smdh

This the excert from the book. How do you think it reads?

---------

This is suppose to be from an excert from the book. It is not clear to me if this was a D&C before or after. A medical intervention sounds like a before D&C.

She got pregnant once more in 1997, but the pregnancy wasn't viable, and she was told she needed a D&C. Prince, who had begun studying the teachings of JW's, a religion he ultimately joined, opposed medical intervention; she went ahead anyway. by the following year he was keeping company with Manuela Testolini, a consultant for his charity. He was becoming more strident in his religious beliefs, writing in a song that he believed God was displeased with his early life and Amiir's death was part of the price he had to pay. But it was his request to have their marriage annulled, so they could "continue it in a less traditional fashion", that proved to be the last straw. After their divorce in 2000, Garcia was told, Prince had his assistant burn everything that reminded him of Garcia or the baby. On New Year's Eve 2001 he and Manuela wed.

----

See that D&C are done after an abortion. At this point to me it is not clear what went on. I cannot see the sense of the passage above if she already has lost the child she would have not been having an medical intervention because she would have already lost the baby. I believe his objections may have due to the baby having complications as she said this was a molar pregnacy.

http://www.webmd.com/women/guide/d-and-c-dilation-and-curettage#1

[Edited 3/22/17 12:09pm]



My one and only question in all of this...Is this where people are getting that she said that Prince burned the baby's ashes? Because that's not really saying that. I mean it could be but it doesn't specify that. Since the baby didn't use any of the clothes or other stuff they may have bought I don't see the big deal about burning that kind of stuff, kind of wasteful but still.

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Reply #570 posted 03/22/17 1:03pm

purplerabbithole

Not to be too caught up in semantics...but

YOur statement seems to imply that if Mayte didn't want the ashes, then therefore she was uncaring. I am saying that there is a chance she did not want the ashes and that she is still caring. Not wanting ashes is not the equivalent of HEARTLESS OR UNCARING> I am also saying that Prince burning the ashes doesn't mean he didn't care either. Maybe we can just take some things on face value. she said he was in emotional pain when he burnt them. She said she was glad she wasn't there when it happened but said nothing about being angry at him. She also said nothing about trying to get the ashes from him. If the book says otherwise, then I digress. But people are way too defensive about this ashes thing. Prince and Mayte were odd ball artistic types and Prince follows some mysticism and JW beliefs. They may just think about this stuff differently than the rest of us. We shouldnt jump to assumptions that either one of them were being malicious or indifferent in their actions.

Like you said, book hasn't been read yet. However, the complete story is not going to come from her book because the other party involved is no longer around to offer his perspectives or feelings about what he was doing. I think it is only fair to try to give him the benefit of the doubt for this reason. To look for the better angels of his nature, to discuss whether there are more sympathetic reasons for the things he did, to humanize first before we demonize. . We hurt the people we love sometimes; it doesn't mean that we always mean to. The world is too damn cynical or quick to see people in one-dimensional ways. Demonizing one person and then sanctifying another. I have expressed some anger about the way the People irresponsibly ran the story, but I want to believe that she loves her ex and that he loved her as well.

The reality of their lives is in the gray area but that gray area is harder to access when one party is deceased. There is her side, his side and then there is the truth. With this book, we will get her side...at that's all. It doesnt mean she is lying or the facts are wrong; it means its from her perspective. But I choose to beleive that if Prince burnt ashes, he did it because he was in pain. A man who stays by a deformed baby's side while he goes through surgeries (as Mayte stated in the the UK times version) wouldn't be heartless about his ashes or think of his son as disposable.

benni said:

purplerabbithole said:

Where is the benefit of the doubt for Prince? I thought I was pretty fair to Mayte. I am not one of those people without sympathy for this woman. I just think we need to keep things in perspective. Mayte is not you or me. Her home in Spain was furnished, correct? She had clothes, jewerly in her closet in Spain?--its safe to assume. She was privy to private things about Prince that even an NDA wouldn't be enough to keep her from at least threatening to expose. Maybe, she didn't stick it to Prince because she didn't have a reason to.

It seems like people would rather think that Prince was so cruel that he would fight her tooth and nail over these ashes (just so he could destroy them) than think that maybe she just didn't want them with her anymore after having laid in bed with them for weeks with no closure or comfort? I guess we will have to see. But let's say he did do what I just mentioned. The next question would be "Why?". Do we assume its spite? Or that there is another reason?



And yet it is okay to assume that Mayte was an uncaring individual who didn't ask for her son's ashes? There are always 2 sides to every story, and the truth is generally somewhere in the middle. I'm not vilifying Prince, but I'm not going to vilify Mayte either. I don't know their story. I wasn't there. I didn't experience it. Mayte did and Prince did, and they are the only ones that know the truth. My whole point has been: "How do you know?" when someone makes another accusation against Mayte as though that accusation is fact.

Reply #571 posted 03/22/17 1:04pm

precioux

morningsong said:

laurarichardson said:

This the excert from the book. How do you think it reads?

---------

This is suppose to be from an excert from the book. It is not clear to me if this was a D&C before or after. A medical intervention sounds like a before D&C.

She got pregnant once more in 1997, but the pregnancy wasn't viable, and she was told she needed a D&C. Prince, who had begun studying the teachings of JW's, a religion he ultimately joined, opposed medical intervention; she went ahead anyway. by the following year he was keeping company with Manuela Testolini, a consultant for his charity. He was becoming more strident in his religious beliefs, writing in a song that he believed God was displeased with his early life and Amiir's death was part of the price he had to pay. But it was his request to have their marriage annulled, so they could "continue it in a less traditional fashion", that proved to be the last straw. After their divorce in 2000, Garcia was told, Prince had his assistant burn everything that reminded him of Garcia or the baby. On New Year's Eve 2001 he and Manuela wed.

----

See that D&C are done after an abortion. At this point to me it is not clear what went on. I cannot see the sense of the passage above if she already has lost the child she would have not been having an medical intervention because she would have already lost the baby. I believe his objections may have due to the baby having complications as she said this was a molar pregnacy.

http://www.webmd.com/women/guide/d-and-c-dilation-and-curettage#1

[Edited 3/22/17 12:09pm]



My one and only question in all of this...Is this where people are getting that she said that Prince burned the baby's ashes? Because that's not really saying that. I mean it could be but it doesn't specify that. Since the baby didn't use any of the clothes or other stuff they may have bought I don't see the big deal about burning that kind of stuff, kind of wasteful but still.

[Edited 3/22/17 13:02pm]

No,it's not...I posted the interview referenced yesterday. I'll send it to you

Reply #572 posted 03/22/17 1:07pm

benni

purplerabbithole said:

Not to be too caught up in semantics...but

YOur statement seems to imply that if Mayte didn't want the ashes, then therefore she was uncaring. I am saying that there is a chance she did not want the ashes and that she is still caring. Not wanting ashes is not the equivalent of HEARTLESS OR UNCARING> I am also saying that Prince burning the ashes doesn't mean he didn't care either. Maybe we can just take some things on face value. she said he was in emotional pain when he burnt them. She said she was glad she wasn't there when it happened but said nothing about being angry at him. She also said nothing about trying to get the ashes from him. If the book says otherwise, then I digress. But people are way too defensive about this ashes thing. Prince and Mayte were odd ball artistic types and Prince follows some mysticism and JW beliefs. They may just think about this stuff differently than the rest of us. We shouldnt jump to assumptions that either one of them were being malicious or indifferent in their actions.

Like you said, book hasn't been read yet. However, the complete story is not going to come from her book because the other party involved is no longer around to offer his perspectives or feelings about what he was doing. I think it is only fair to try to give him the benefit of the doubt for this reason. To look for the better angels of his nature, to discuss whether there are more sympathetic reasons for the things he did, to humanize first before we demonize. . We hurt the people we love sometimes; it doesn't mean that we always mean to. The world is too damn cynical or quick to see people in one-dimensional ways. Demonizing one person and then sanctifying another. I have expressed some anger about the way the People irresponsibly ran the story, but I want to believe that she loves her ex and that he loved her as well.

The reality of their lives is in the gray area but that gray area is harder to access when one party is deceased. There is her side, his side and then there is the truth. With this book, we will get her side...at that's all. It doesnt mean she is lying or the facts are wrong; it means its from her perspective. But I choose to beleive that if Prince burnt ashes, he did it because he was in pain. A man who stays by a deformed baby's side while he goes through surgeries (as Mayte stated in the the UK times version) wouldn't be heartless about his ashes or think of his son as disposable.

benni said:



And yet it is okay to assume that Mayte was an uncaring individual who didn't ask for her son's ashes? There are always 2 sides to every story, and the truth is generally somewhere in the middle. I'm not vilifying Prince, but I'm not going to vilify Mayte either. I don't know their story. I wasn't there. I didn't experience it. Mayte did and Prince did, and they are the only ones that know the truth. My whole point has been: "How do you know?" when someone makes another accusation against Mayte as though that accusation is fact.


I am not directing that part towards you. There are others that have stated that she is heartless and/or uncaring to not have the ashes. I was merely asking it if was okay to assume that Mayte is heartless if she didn't ask for the ashes. I have compassion for the both of them. I think there are things we don't know, will never know, and I'm okay with that. I just don't think it's fair of people to vilify one or the other without having the whole story. And if you read this thread, or the previous one, you can definitely see the vilification of Mayte going on. I would never pass judgment on Prince or Mayte for their story. I just know that it is usually somewhere in the middle but others are quick to jump on the idea that Mayte is somehow continuously in the wrong. The poor girl can't win for losing with some of the people on the board.

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Reply #573 posted 03/22/17 1:09pm

purplerabbithole

You are making an awful a lot of assumptions about Prince's feelings here or lack there of. The annulment might have confused her but if he petitioned for divorce, he was making his intentions clear. After a D and C and her refusal to join his religion, I doubt he thought she was all the naive anymore--which might have thrown him for quite the loop.

BTW, why do people assume she is so naive and weak?. She said in the UK TImes article that she used to have to perform in Cairo as a young teen and that there were creepy guys trying to get her in the sack, she had already earned 100000 doing that job, had been a dancer since her very young youth, had poor grandparents from Puerto Rico, was bilingual, had school boyfriends, was an army brat, had divorce in her family, might have already been molested--most of this before she even met Prince. She was still a virgin and she seemed very sweet and very protected. But she also seemed kind of wise and worldly and certainly not living in a convent or going to parochial school. She seemed like a good girl and young but not some dipshit. He probably saw her as someone who kept her purity and decency despite all of that.

Plus she ended up seeing first hand what the entertainment industry was like with her years at Paisley. She was around all the NPG guys who didnt censor their language and neither did Prince. Maybe she was intoxicated with her husband and his lifestyle but I think she also had enough sense to know when his control was detrimental to her happiness, health and his own. His control was thin as paper as long as she willing to give up the life and her affiliation with him. She had to known that her decision to not join his JW 'cult' would carry the risk of ending their relationship (he detached himself from people for much less than that.) , that he was probably in denial and confused..by the time, they were started to divorce, she had to have known that she had lost her husband to religion and loss (with little hope of getting him back)

Her life had pain and she doesn't alway make good decisions (the People Magazine article, Hollywood Wives, ) , but she is going to be okay and probably will not die in an elevator by herself having overdosed on drugs.

Maybe we throw a bit more respect her way and a bit more love his way.

sonshine said:

PennyPurple said:

Stop Laura. Again you imply that she may have had an abortion. Stop with the unfound nonsense. It is common to have a D & C after a miscarriage.

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I thought you weren't reading the book? So where does "WE" come into play?

I didn't think you were reading the book. But you keep referring to the excerpts. Besides i have heard from someone who has read the book. He was on here correcting the misinformation and yet you still continue with this campaign to smear Mayte. Its already been confirmed in the book that there was no annul lment. Yet that continued to still be debated here. When asked to provide proof of some alleged harassment towards apples by mayte's people you conveniently dropped that subject but not after debating it here for nonsense purposes. Now it's the remains you are debating and the settlement. This is one tiny piece of her story. You are making a big to-do out of NOTHING! It's as simple as Mayte being young, in grief, on the other side of the world, her life turned upside down. I'm sure she didn't know what happened to many of her belongings. Im sure she didnt want anything because she believed for quite some time that they would get back together! That would put her mindset in an entirely different place than worrying about material things or a divorce settlement. And now that I consider that I'm pretty sure he used her naivte to his full advantage. Also do we dare to hope this means you are actually going to let the book be the final word on the subject of prince and mayte? That seems hard to believe Lol

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