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Astasheiks

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Anybody get Saved off of one of Prince's Spiritual Songs?

Saved as in accepting Jesus as your Personal Savior as He Instructed in The New Testament...

If So which song or songs saved you?

Prince Spiritual Songs like: God Is Alive, Anna Stesia, The Word, The Cross, Gold, 7, The Holy River, Still Would Stand All Time, etc. etc.

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Reply #1 posted 03/18/17 12:48pm

SuzyHomemaker

I wouldn't say "saved by," but in 1990, I was 17 years old and going through some sort of spiritual conversion. I was heavily affected by the movie Jesus of Nazareth. I was taking a Bible as Literature class in my senior year of high school. The entire Lovesexy album meant so much to me during this time. I was very lonely in school, but the combination of all of those things made me feel so comforted. I guess you could say, I literally had a friend in Jesus.

The theme from Lovesexy just resonated with me and made me feel so at peace...Love is God, God is love....I began seeing beauty everywhere. I went from being a dark, moody, hateful teenager, to one who began smiling more, was friendly to people. I carried my Bible around school the last few months of school, like it was my companion. I feel that Prince's more positive songs through that time period accompanied me.

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Reply #2 posted 03/18/17 12:54pm

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Yeah Love that part in Anna Stesia, "Love is God, God is love."

and "Save Me Jesus I've Been in a Fool" in the same song!

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Reply #3 posted 03/18/17 1:47pm

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I have been helped by Prince's songs in many ways, spiritually. Especially The Love We Make which was the first live performance of his I really started listening to deeply. It gave me a lot of compassion for people when I needed it. We are called to a higher way of living. We know he was human, but Prince was an example of that.
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Reply #4 posted 03/18/17 3:45pm

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Gross, no!

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Reply #5 posted 03/18/17 3:50pm

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oh brother

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Reply #6 posted 03/18/17 5:24pm

Menes

What do you mean saved? You mean like saved after listening to "head" or something like that ? This is bizarre.

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Reply #7 posted 03/18/17 5:34pm

laytonian

Menes said:

What do you mean saved? You mean like saved after listening to "head" or something like that ? This is bizarre.


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Besides, how would one know they were "saved" until they died, if there was an afterlife, and if they came back and told us.
That has not happened in human history
It's all a bunch of tax-exempt very profitable corporations -- each selling a slightly different version of the same story.
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Welcome to "the org", laytonian… come bathe with me.
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Reply #8 posted 03/18/17 6:31pm

Menes

laytonian said:

Menes said:

What do you mean saved? You mean like saved after listening to "head" or something like that ? This is bizarre.

. Besides, how would one know they were "saved" until they died, if there was an afterlife, and if they came back and told us. That has not happened in human history It's all a bunch of tax-exempt very profitable corporations -- each selling a slightly different version of the same story. .

I don't want to make lite of the OP's post but I have always had a hard time reconciling Prince with Chrisitianity. I'm pretty sure he said he was a christian but there were so many times where they seem to conflict.Maybe it was all an act to draw people in to his religious beliefs? If it was, he went to great lengths to do it. I wonder how people really reacted after he left when he went door to door knocking?

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Reply #9 posted 03/18/17 6:32pm

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I seriously don't think that's possible. confused

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Reply #10 posted 03/18/17 9:13pm

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Menes said:



laytonian said:


Menes said:

What do you mean saved? You mean like saved after listening to "head" or something like that ? This is bizarre.



. Besides, how would one know they were "saved" until they died, if there was an afterlife, and if they came back and told us. That has not happened in human history It's all a bunch of tax-exempt very profitable corporations -- each selling a slightly different version of the same story. .

I don't want to make lite of the OP's post but I have always had a hard time reconciling Prince with Chrisitianity. I'm pretty sure he said he was a christian but there were so many times where they seem to conflict.Maybe it was all an act to draw people in to his religious beliefs? If it was, he went to great lengths to do it. I wonder how people really reacted after he left when he went door to door knocking?


It was not an act he was a Chritian in conflict with his beliefs and the industry he was in.
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Reply #11 posted 03/18/17 9:27pm

morningsong

Naw. I grew up COGIC. Prince crossed too many lines in his younger years for me to think of him as a spiritual beacon leading to Christ, I understood his contridiction and conflict but not as something leading into it. As an adult I've grown into my own spiritual awareness just like he did his. We still don't fully agree on a few things but I've been comfortable with it.
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Reply #12 posted 03/19/17 9:10am

Menes

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Menes said:

I don't want to make lite of the OP's post but I have always had a hard time reconciling Prince with Chrisitianity. I'm pretty sure he said he was a christian but there were so many times where they seem to conflict.Maybe it was all an act to draw people in to his religious beliefs? If it was, he went to great lengths to do it. I wonder how people really reacted after he left when he went door to door knocking?

It was not an act he was a Chritian in conflict with his beliefs and the industry he was in.

So he was a christian in words only ? I thought one of the more popular sayings is that "you cant serve two masters" and something else to the effect about "being lukewarm". I'm not questioning his beliefs but I dont think his lifestyle resonated with what people understand christian values to be. I do believe he was making some serious strides in reconciling his words with his deeds .People always clamoured for the vanity and probably remember him most because of that.

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Reply #13 posted 03/19/17 10:08am

luvgirl

I've been a Christian for quite some time due to a different life event, which led me to read the bible for the first time in my life, and I couldn't bypass all the prophecies in the Old Testament pointing to Jesus, so I had a literal awakening due to the bible. But what Anna Stesia does for me spiritually is that it's a comforting song that reminds me that we are all human and fall short of the glory of God battling with right and wrong, but no matter what, Jesus is always there to pick us up. I always feel a spiritual well being listening to that song and remembering that Jesus is there for us. The song is a beautiful reminder of God.
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Reply #14 posted 03/19/17 10:48am

luvgirl

Menes said:



laytonian said:


Menes said:

What do you mean saved? You mean like saved after listening to "head" or something like that ? This is bizarre.



. Besides, how would one know they were "saved" until they died, if there was an afterlife, and if they came back and told us. That has not happened in human history It's all a bunch of tax-exempt very profitable corporations -- each selling a slightly different version of the same story. .

I don't want to make lite of the OP's post but I have always had a hard time reconciling Prince with Chrisitianity. I'm pretty sure he said he was a christian but there were so many times where they seem to conflict.Maybe it was all an act to draw people in to his religious beliefs? If it was, he went to great lengths to do it. I wonder how people really reacted after he left when he went door to door knocking?



Prince was a Christian. He believed it in his heart. He wasn't perfect, (none of us are) but he believed. And he tried to be a better person because of his beliefs. Christians believes that God sent his son Jesus to die for us because he knew we could never live up to his way. Not trying to get all preachy but here are three verses in the bible. Romans 3:23 "All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that he sent his only begotten son so that whosoever believes in him shall not perish but have everlasting life." Romans 8 "Nothing can Seperate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus."
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Reply #15 posted 03/19/17 12:55pm

Menes

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I've been a Christian for quite some time due to a different life event, which led me to read the bible for the first time in my life, and I couldn't bypass all the prophecies in the Old Testament pointing to Jesus, so I had a literal awakening due to the bible. But what Anna Stesia does for me spiritually is that it's a comforting song that reminds me that we are all human and fall short of the glory of God battling with right and wrong, but no matter what, Jesus is always there to pick us up. I always feel a spiritual well being listening to that song and remembering that Jesus is there for us. The song is a beautiful reminder of God. [Edited 3/19/17 10:22am]

I salute you for your story. Two quick questions...

1.In the Anna Stesia song, do you feel as though he was conflicted?

2.Secondly, if by understanding what the "master plan" was (mentioned in that same song), how do you reconcile that with what is stated in 2 Peter 2:20?

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Reply #16 posted 03/19/17 2:50pm

luvgirl

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luvgirl said:


I've been a Christian for quite some time due to a different life event, which led me to read the bible for the first time in my life, and I couldn't bypass all the prophecies in the Old Testament pointing to Jesus, so I had a literal awakening due to the bible. But what Anna Stesia does for me spiritually is that it's a comforting song that reminds me that we are all human and fall short of the glory of God battling with right and wrong, but no matter what, Jesus is always there to pick us up. I always feel a spiritual well being listening to that song and remembering that Jesus is there for us. The song is a beautiful reminder of God. [Edited 3/19/17 10:22am]

I salute you for your story. Two quick questions...



1.In the Anna Stesia song, do you feel as though he was conflicted?



2.Secondly, if by understanding what the "master plan" was (mentioned in that same song), how do you reconcile that with what is stated in 2 Peter 2:20?



In answer to the first question, I don't feel like he was conflicted, I feel like he always knew God, but was still searching for peace in all the wrong places, until he found it in God once again.

In regards to reconcileing with 2 Peters 2:20. I reconcile with that verse by knowing that the ONLY unpardonable sin is not believing in our Lord and savior Jesus Christ. Who could stop sinning? No one. The bible says God sees all sins the same. We never stop sinning. Even a bad thought is ungodly. God wants us to stop sinning and that should certainly be our goal if we truly believe and are Christians, and it should lead you into trying to be a better person, but No one, not even pastors can tell you the've mastered the art of not sinning and falling back in the world at some point. Hence the reason Jesus had to die for us. For with your heart you believe and are justified says Roman 10. If this wasn't the case we'd all be in trouble.
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Reply #17 posted 03/19/17 3:40pm

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How would you know if you've been "saved" if you're still alive? Isn't that answer reserved for the deceased? For the record, I have faith I'm going to be a force ghost.

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Reply #18 posted 03/19/17 3:55pm

luvgirl

Marrk said:

How would you know if you've been "saved" if you're still alive? Isn't that answer reserved for the deceased? For the record, I have faith I'm going to be a force ghost.



Well, you have to believe in what the bible says before you can even go any further. Which is a different topic in itself. If you don't believe in the bible, then the point is null and void. The bible says, "For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, so that whosoever believes in him shall not perish but have everlasting life." I believe in what the bible says, so therefore I believe I will be saved.
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Reply #19 posted 03/19/17 4:26pm

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Naw. I grew up COGIC. Prince crossed too many lines in his younger years for me to think of him as a spiritual beacon leading to Christ, I understood his contridiction and conflict but not as something leading into it. As an adult I've grown into my own spiritual awareness just like he did his. We still don't fully agree on a few things but I've been comfortable with it.

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Reply #20 posted 03/19/17 4:31pm

Menes

luvgirl said:

Menes said:

I salute you for your story. Two quick questions...

1.In the Anna Stesia song, do you feel as though he was conflicted?

2.Secondly, if by understanding what the "master plan" was (mentioned in that same song), how do you reconcile that with what is stated in 2 Peter 2:20?

In answer to the first question, I don't feel like he was conflicted, I feel like he always knew God, but was still searching for peace in all the wrong places, until he found it in God once again. In regards to reconcileing with 2 Peters 2:20. I reconcile with that verse by knowing that the ONLY unpardonable sin is not believing in our Lord and savior Jesus Christ. Who could stop sinning? No one. The bible says God sees all sins the same. We never stop sinning. Even a bad thought is ungodly. God wants us to stop sinning and that should certainly be our goal if we truly believe and are Christians, and it should lead you into trying to be a better person, but No one, not even pastors can tell you the've mastered the art of not sinning and falling back in the world at some point. Hence the reason Jesus had to die for us. For with your heart you believe and are justified says Roman 10. If this wasn't the case we'd all be in trouble. [Edited 3/19/17 15:42pm]

So, by this logic, A mafiosi who has accepted Christ and understands that we "never stop sinning" , could concieveably continue to commit the most haneous of murders without any consequences as long as he does not commit the unpardonable sin ,right? What then is the purpose of representing that you believe ? Isn't your faith without works dead? What sort of faith would he be exhibiting when he continues to kill after knowing the truth? I can't imagine him being seen as an example or an imitation of Christ just because he doesn't commit the unpardonable sin. Who would he persuade ?

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Reply #21 posted 03/19/17 5:33pm

luvgirl

Menes said:



luvgirl said:


Menes said:


I salute you for your story. Two quick questions...



1.In the Anna Stesia song, do you feel as though he was conflicted?



2.Secondly, if by understanding what the "master plan" was (mentioned in that same song), how do you reconcile that with what is stated in 2 Peter 2:20?



In answer to the first question, I don't feel like he was conflicted, I feel like he always knew God, but was still searching for peace in all the wrong places, until he found it in God once again. In regards to reconcileing with 2 Peters 2:20. I reconcile with that verse by knowing that the ONLY unpardonable sin is not believing in our Lord and savior Jesus Christ. Who could stop sinning? No one. The bible says God sees all sins the same. We never stop sinning. Even a bad thought is ungodly. God wants us to stop sinning and that should certainly be our goal if we truly believe and are Christians, and it should lead you into trying to be a better person, but No one, not even pastors can tell you the've mastered the art of not sinning and falling back in the world at some point. Hence the reason Jesus had to die for us. For with your heart you believe and are justified says Roman 10. If this wasn't the case we'd all be in trouble. [Edited 3/19/17 15:42pm]

So, by this logic, A mafiosi who has accepted Christ and understands that we "never stop sinning" , could concieveably continue to commit the most haneous of murders without any consequences as long as he does not commit the unpardonable sin ,right? What then is the purpose of representing that you believe ? Isn't your faith without works dead? What sort of faith would he be exhibiting when he continues to kill after knowing the truth? I can't imagine him being seen as an example or an imitation of Christ just because he doesn't commit the unpardonable sin. Who would he persuade ?



So I guess this part, God wants us to stop sinning and that should certainly be our goal IF WE TRULY BELIEVE and are Christians, and it should lead you into trying to be a better person, wasn't a part of the equation to you as you were simply grasping for anything to go against whatever I had to say explaining my faith to you as you'd asked. I don't need to debate my faith with anyone. I'm secured in it. You asked a question and I answered. Moving on... Peace yes
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Reply #22 posted 03/19/17 8:25pm

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Yes, I believe that some people could have been saved through Prince's music. In such songs as "The Cross" where he is clearly singing about Jesus dying on the cross for our sins and the song with the verse "Jesus save me, I've been a fool" -- these are songs which I believe Prince sung about as his way of witnessing to people who may not have been saved. I think Prince had compassion for all people and was truly concerned for everyone's soul, because Prince knew that accepting Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior is the ONLY way to Heaven. I'm a Christian and really believe Prince was too and was saved and is in Heaven right now singing praises to God. Prince so very often told people to read their Bibles and like John 3:16 says "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish but have everlasting life." Prince BELIEVED that! I don't mean to sound "preachy" either but I just had to share this.

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Reply #23 posted 03/19/17 8:52pm

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I wouldn't say that I've been saved in the New Born Christian sort of way. After Price was gone I read Toure's book "I Would Die 4 U: Why Prince Became and Icon". There was a dedicated part about Princes religions convictions and how/why he included it in his music. It really brought to light just how much influence Prince had in my relationship with God. It's not much of a relationship, but one that is definatly informed by his influence.

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Reply #24 posted 03/20/17 1:26am

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Obviously, things changed after Lovesexy, his downfall in many ways. But his attitude before that certainly inspired me to think about things and question authority and accepted wisdom.

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And when you think about for a little bit, you cannot escape the fact that all religions are man-made and false. And even if there is a "prime mover", or non-interventionist god, the end result of that is the same as there being no god. So I do not see any justification for being agnostic.

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Yes, Prince helped me be an atheist. Wouldn't go as far as him saving me from religion, that I did myself. smile

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Reply #25 posted 03/20/17 2:12am

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I've been waiting for a thread like this for a while, so that I can tell this story...

I was walking to work and I have to cross many busy London roads. This one day, the lights had just gone amber and I was about to step out. But something held me back and I didn't take that step, which was just as well as the big lorry coming up to the lights didn't slow down and stop, instead they drove straight through the now red light and they would have no doubt killed me. It was then that I realised I'd been humming the line, "Don't cross on the yellow, you got to wait for the green light".

And that was the moment that Don't Talk To Strangers saved me. Thank you Prince.

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Reply #26 posted 03/20/17 3:35am

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TheEnglishGent said:

I've been waiting for a thread like this for a while, so that I can tell this story...

I was walking to work and I have to cross many busy London roads. This one day, the lights had just gone amber and I was about to step out. But something held me back and I didn't take that step, which was just as well as the big lorry coming up to the lights didn't slow down and stop, instead they drove straight through the now red light and they would have no doubt killed me. It was then that I realised I'd been humming the line, "Don't cross on the yellow, you got to wait for the green light".

And that was the moment that Don't Talk To Strangers saved me. Thank you Prince.

Wow... I love this.

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Reply #27 posted 03/20/17 3:48am

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Astasheiks said:

Saved as in accepting Jesus as your Personal Savior as He Instructed in The New Testament...

If So which song or songs saved you?

Prince Spiritual Songs like: God Is Alive, Anna Stesia, The Word, The Cross, Gold, 7, The Holy River, Still Would Stand All Time, etc. etc.

[Edited 3/18/17 12:29pm]



Ah, brainwashed.

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Reply #28 posted 03/20/17 5:51am

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I met one crazy ass lunatic Prince maniac in Minneapolis in 2000 when i attended the first Prince celebration.. he was there for the celebration also... (and from my home-town)..

I bumped into him at a bootleg vinyl/vhs shop one day a few years later..

apparently he became a jehovas witness member and moved to Chaska minnesota for a period of time to try to attend the same services Prince & Larry Graham were going to!!!!

TRUE STORY! eek

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Reply #29 posted 03/20/17 7:02am

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Naw. I grew up COGIC. Prince crossed too many lines in his younger years for me to think of him as a spiritual beacon leading to Christ, I understood his contridiction and conflict but not as something leading into it. As an adult I've grown into my own spiritual awareness just like he did his. We still don't fully agree on a few things but I've been comfortable with it.

i'm sure he did, so what' worse, all the preachers and christians who do things against their religion (and vilify others for same) like gay activity, molestation, infidelity, stealing money?

I lived with a preacher, i used to wonder how he, his wife and the people in church rationalized the things they did in their own minds. I was (un) lucky not to lose my virginity to any of them. Used to fasinate me and still does, the woman who would have petitions against child molestation and call me over to do her weeds while she flirted with me. Used to just fascinate me how they put that all together in their minds. Prince, and marvin gaye before him were very open about that same conflict in their music.

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