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Reply #120 posted 03/15/17 3:29pm

endiadj

Superfan1984 said:



LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:


PennyPurple said:


Well....actually I seen where the proceeds from Mayte's book is going to her animal rescue.



While that is very nice, I see she only has 15 animals up for adoption, a couple million or more will go a long way with that number of pets.

Uhmmmm... that is some bull.... Mayte has been helping dogs for years- MANY MANY of them. Not only 15 dogs. I haven't read through this whole thread yet but no one should act like she doesn't really help animals- she does and that is wonderful. I love Prince but if he were so great, he would have had a will and left a huge chunk of it to her animal rescue. Animals matter. They have no voice. They are sick, hungry, and abused and no one should ever try and negate what she does for animals.


Because all of the other charitable work he did (without wanting fanfare for it) doesn't make him a good person, right?
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Reply #121 posted 03/15/17 3:40pm

purplerabbitho
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Exactly. He gave millions to charity without fanfare. And much of his charitable contributions were to CHILDREN.

endiadj said:

Superfan1984 said:

Uhmmmm... that is some bull.... Mayte has been helping dogs for years- MANY MANY of them. Not only 15 dogs. I haven't read through this whole thread yet but no one should act like she doesn't really help animals- she does and that is wonderful. I love Prince but if he were so great, he would have had a will and left a huge chunk of it to her animal rescue. Animals matter. They have no voice. They are sick, hungry, and abused and no one should ever try and negate what she does for animals.

Because all of the other charitable work he did (without wanting fanfare for it) doesn't make him a good person, right?

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Reply #122 posted 03/15/17 3:49pm

mynameisnotsus
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I've yet to find a book about Prince that hasn't made me go 'meh'
Positive, negative, whatever I just wish there were some better writers who were engaging and telling a compelling story. They all end up just being projections of whatever there own agenda may be - mostly I find them dull.
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Reply #123 posted 03/15/17 3:54pm

PennyPurple

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rogifan said:
Was there no outrage about Sheila's book? I know I haven't read it. Again Prince was a world famous celebrity/artist/musician. You can't compare books about him & his career (even if they do contain some personal stuff/gossip) to a book from someone who is only famous because she married him. And clearly she's using Prince and the tragedy of losing their son to sell the book.
--There is nothing in Sheila E book we did know already as Prince only takes up 20 pages and she is a grown ass women who takes responsibility for her actions. The book is about Sheila E life in the music industry nothing to be outraged about.

And this book is about Mayte. I'm sure just about everything in Mayte's book has already been discussed on this very forum, and I'll bet that you were involved in the discussions. The baby, the aspirin overdose, the women, etc....

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Mayte is also a grown woman who takes responsibility for her actions. So there is basically no difference between Mayte writing her book, or Sheila E's book.

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Reply #124 posted 03/15/17 3:59pm

SweetKathleen

1. Mayte has the right to write a book about her experiences.

2. Mayte has the right to make money and support her family

3. Mayte was still a child when she became involved in Prince's life--she was not on equal footing with him, she put up with a lot of cr*p, went through a horrible tragedy and still she worked and contributed a great deal to Prince's life and career.

4. I preordered the book a few days ago and am looking forward to learning more about their life together.

5. A select few posters here are routinely and doggedly negative. It's a real drag. Have you had your plus sign today?

I miss you my friend --jj, me, and many others
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Reply #125 posted 03/15/17 3:59pm

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Superfan1984 said:



LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:


PennyPurple said:


Well....actually I seen where the proceeds from Mayte's book is going to her animal rescue.



While that is very nice, I see she only has 15 animals up for adoption, a couple million or more will go a long way with that number of pets.

Uhmmmm... that is some bull.... Mayte has been helping dogs for years- MANY MANY of them. Not only 15 dogs. I haven't read through this whole thread yet but no one should act like she doesn't really help animals- she does and that is wonderful. I love Prince but if he were so great, he would have had a will and left a huge chunk of it to her animal rescue. Animals matter. They have no voice. They are sick, hungry, and abused and no one should ever try and negate what she does for animals.






Actually that is not bull, that is a fact. If you go to her "maytes rescue" page there are 15 animals up for adoption. I totally agree that animals matter, over 4 million domestic animals are killed each year in this country, and I appreciate maytes efforts in the rescue world, however it is not cool to say the proceeds from your multi million dollar book are going to your animal rescue, when you only have 15 animals available to adopt, that is misleading the consumer.
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Reply #126 posted 03/15/17 3:59pm

purplerabbitho
le

First sorry to hear about her MS diagnosis.

Secondly,

I don't mind her talking about her time with Prince in a book.

However, her tactics are kind of questionable--the year anniversary, and allowing that godawful magazine cover and the details about Ahmir's physical appearance to be the tidbits that sell the book. (intimate descriptions of a deformed baby being cherry picked for a magazine article in order to promote the book. Including them in the book isn't the problem. Using those details as juicy enticement for people to buy the book--that's disturbing,.)

As for Prince...I am going to defend him because someone has to. I don't agree with him not "allowing" the testing (although I understand the fear he had of miscarriage). That being said, a 22 year old woman should be able to advocate better for herself..If she wasn't willing to make decisions like that then someone had to and that just leaves the father/husband to do so.. She had a mother, she had a father, she had friends...any of them could have stepped up for her and had her back if she wanted to get the test. The truth is not she probably just went along with his decision because he convinced her. I feel for her, but he wasn't necessarily as strong as people think. He had his issues and any number of sensible people (who weren't enamored by his fame) could have stood up to him.

I do not mind Mayte inferring that perhaps P was sneaking drugs. There is no way Prince didn't have physical and emotional pain back then. I don't doubt that he sincerely hated drugs and didn't want anyone he knew to be on them..he probably thought drugs were a hedonistic sin,,..thus the reason he would hide his drug usage (even if it was legit and just for pain at some point) from people he loves. He probably hated that he took them and that just makes me feel pity for him because he dealt with his problems alone..tragic.

As for the need of Mayte to talk about her loss. If Prince told her she couldn't see a therapist/psychologist or couldn't talk to her friends/family about it, then yes, he was being a controlling asshole. But not wanting their shared pain told to the world, that's normal. ..Writing a book about this subject to be published and then read by millions is not about healing. I don't know maybe Mayte (to give her the benefit of the doubt) did it to humanize Prince to the world. But her own healing process is not improved by telling judgemental strangers about the painful parts of her life. What psychologist would recommend public exposure on a massive scale to deal with pain of loss?

Prince in that interview with Oprah looked distraught. Despite the bad decision he made or the falseness of the whole proceedings, he was obviously a miserable man. Hell, the interview with Gumbel before it took a turn for the humorous was difficult to watch. Something about Prince's eyes...GOD, they looked sad. Sidenote: Prince mentioned his two personalities during that Oprah interview and stated he discovered his dual nature while walking someone else through therapy...Maybe he was talking about therapy for himself and Mayte. I think he probably was.

[Edited 3/15/17 17:07pm]

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Reply #127 posted 03/15/17 4:00pm

PennyPurple

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laurarichardson said:

disch said:

...And she has a right, I believe, to discuss her child who passed away 20 years ago, regardless of how the child's now-deceased father wanted that issue addressed. The way Prince handled that whole part of his life was atypical at best and, one could argue, cruel at worst, and to expect that Mayte should be required to adhere to his very unusual preferences for the rest of her life seems a little over the top.

--And you were there so you know how he handled it? I think he was just as grief stricken as she was but did what a lot of men do. Shut down when things get to emotional. We know he threw himself into his work, moved on, and never used the death of that child for profit or publicity. We all see that she is doing the opposite and are well within our rights to judge. Everybody on this earth can be judged.

Laura, we all know you aren't going to read the book. You don't have to, but why do you keep commenting on a topic that you hate? She has every right to tell her story. If you think she shouldn't have wrote the book because it's too personal about Prince, then why are you combing thru all the court documents and reporting on them on the forum? Now that's just as personal......

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Reply #128 posted 03/15/17 4:06pm

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mynameisnotsusan said:

I've yet to find a book about Prince that hasn't made me go 'meh'
Positive, negative, whatever I just wish there were some better writers who were engaging and telling a compelling story. They all end up just being projections of whatever there own agenda may be - mostly I find them dull.


Mayte's book is as poorly written as the others. I suspect she got paid by the adjective/adverb.
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Reply #129 posted 03/15/17 4:11pm

Camille10

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



sonshine said:


Which is it? Some of you have been leading the charge for more information regarding his life and death. Begging, digging, demanding, scouring for the most sensitive and personal details. Then when you get it you jump on the "give him his privacy" bandwagon. Just stop with the contradictions and hypocrisy so we can have a nice clean, focused thread for once that doesn't veer off in a number of horrible directions only to eventually land in the gutter again where it will be locked. Thank u. I'll add my own comments about the article and book in a few min.

yeahthat


I am not a Mayte apologizer..but...


Dont forget about all the people who have been begging for the autopsy to be released.


Or all the people counting down the days until the criminal investigative report


will be released along with all the gory details.


How much more personal and invasive can you get if you want to see an autopsy report, and


criminal investigative report?


If you dont want to read her book, dont buy the book, and just scroll by the org threads that discuss it.



yeahthatI ordered the book. I am glad she wrote it, too many secrets in this man's life that probably lead to his death way to soon
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Reply #130 posted 03/15/17 4:20pm

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SweetKathleen said:

1. Mayte has the right to write a book about her experiences.

2. Mayte has the right to make money and support her family

3. Mayte was still a child when she became involved in Prince's life--she was not on equal footing with him, she put up with a lot of cr*p, went through a horrible tragedy and still she worked and contributed a great deal to Prince's life and career.

4. I preordered the book a few days ago and am looking forward to learning more about their life together.

5. A select few posters here are routinely and doggedly negative. It's a real drag. Have you had your plus sign today?

So agree with this. I really look forward to reading about her life as a wife, mother and entertainer.

I can't wait to read it and she has just as much right to earn money on a book as anyone else.

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Reply #131 posted 03/15/17 4:35pm

GimmeThat

I love, love, love Prince (just like most of the people on the org). I do believe that Mayte should be able to tell her story. I don't think he would like it, but he's gone. She's still with us and she shared a life with him.
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Reply #132 posted 03/15/17 4:55pm

TurnItUp

I want to keep Mayte in my prayers.(sweet girl) I just read where she was recently diagnosed with MS.

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Reply #133 posted 03/15/17 5:04pm

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laurarichardson said:

disch said:

...And she has a right, I believe, to discuss her child who passed away 20 years ago, regardless of how the child's now-deceased father wanted that issue addressed. The way Prince handled that whole part of his life was atypical at best and, one could argue, cruel at worst, and to expect that Mayte should be required to adhere to his very unusual preferences for the rest of her life seems a little over the top.



MD431Madcat said:


She has the right to tell her story.. PERIOD!




--And you were there so you know how he handled it? I think he was just as grief stricken as she was but did what a lot of men do. Shut down when things get to emotional. We know he threw himself into his work, moved on, and never used the death of that child for profit or publicity. We all see that she is doing the opposite and are well within our rights to judge. Everybody on this earth can be judged.

Seriously? Considering what we know now, pretty strange (some would say cruel to his wife, who was going through possibly the worst thing a new mother should experience). Here are his actions after his child's death:

-Went on Oprah and declared "it's all good! Never mind what you hear!"
-Went on the Today Show and declared "Our family exists!"
-Filmed the "Betcha by Golly Wow!" video which celebrates Mayte's pregnancy
-Was already beginning to ditch Mayte for Mani

Those are 4 examples.
[Edited 3/15/17 17:06pm]
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Reply #134 posted 03/15/17 5:09pm

purplerabbitho
le

I wish her the best. But she is not a "girl". She is a 43 year old woman.

TurnItUp said:

I want to keep Mayte in my prayers.(sweet girl) I just read where she was recently diagnosed with MS.

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Reply #135 posted 03/15/17 5:09pm

GimmeThat

TurnItUp said:

I want to keep Mayte in my prayers.(sweet girl) I just read where she was recently diagnosed with MS.


Oh no! I did not know that. That is terrible.
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Reply #136 posted 03/15/17 5:14pm

purplerabbitho
le

And we have no idea why he did those things. So maybe we should figure out why.

I believe the first three had to do with his healing process (which involved his belief in the spirit of his son being reincarnated in subsequent pregnancies ) and with the fact that the press was already talking about the pregnancy and rumors around it.

The last one could be for a number of reasons we don't know. IN 1996? he was already ditching Mayte? Do we know this for sure? They were married until 1999.

PurpleMedley122 said:

laurarichardson said:
--And you were there so you know how he handled it? I think he was just as grief stricken as she was but did what a lot of men do. Shut down when things get to emotional. We know he threw himself into his work, moved on, and never used the death of that child for profit or publicity. We all see that she is doing the opposite and are well within our rights to judge. Everybody on this earth can be judged.
Seriously? Considering what we know now, pretty strange (some would say cruel to his wife, who was going through possibly the worst thing a new mother should experience). Here are his actions after his child's death: -Went on Oprah and declared "it's all good! Never mind what you hear!" -Went on the Today Show and declared "Our family exists!" -Filmed the "Betcha by Golly Wow!" video which celebrates Mayte's pregnancy -Was already beginning to ditch Mayte for Mani Those are 4 examples. [Edited 3/15/17 17:06pm]

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Reply #137 posted 03/15/17 5:15pm

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PurpleMedley122 said:

laurarichardson said:
--And you were there so you know how he handled it? I think he was just as grief stricken as she was but did what a lot of men do. Shut down when things get to emotional. We know he threw himself into his work, moved on, and never used the death of that child for profit or publicity. We all see that she is doing the opposite and are well within our rights to judge. Everybody on this earth can be judged.
Seriously? Considering what we know now, pretty strange (some would say cruel to his wife, who was going through possibly the worst thing a new mother should experience). Here are his actions after his child's death: -Went on Oprah and declared "it's all good! Never mind what you hear!" -Went on the Today Show and declared "Our family exists!" -Filmed the "Betcha by Golly Wow!" video which celebrates Mayte's pregnancy -Was already beginning to ditch Mayte for Mani Those are 4 examples. [Edited 3/15/17 17:06pm]

And while they were on Oprah, he did all the talking about the baby, while Mayte was trying to hold it all in, and you can clearly see how emotional she was.

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Reply #138 posted 03/15/17 5:27pm

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PennyPurple said:

laurarichardson said:

disch said: --And you were there so you know how he handled it? I think he was just as grief stricken as she was but did what a lot of men do. Shut down when things get to emotional. We know he threw himself into his work, moved on, and never used the death of that child for profit or publicity. We all see that she is doing the opposite and are well within our rights to judge. Everybody on this earth can be judged.

Laura, we all know you aren't going to read the book..

Dont believe that for a seond. She is going to read that book many times over, trust.

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Reply #139 posted 03/15/17 5:32pm

StopIt

Actually, wrong, he did write and sell product regarding this child, so he did use and sell his experience also. But its ok if he did, huh.

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Reply #140 posted 03/15/17 5:37pm

purplerabbitho
le

The Comeback song is vague, tasteful, moving and buried deep within a boxset in a disk that was only available to people who purchased Crystal Ball online.

As for songs about the pregnancy, they weren't about his death.

I have no problem with Mayte writing about her son's death but she should have done more tastefully and we should not be angry at Prince for wanting his privacy. She could have talked to her mother, a psychiatrist...not a bunch of random strangers.

StopIt said:

Actually, wrong, he did write and sell product regarding this child, so he did use and sell his experience also. But its ok if he did, huh.

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Reply #141 posted 03/15/17 5:46pm

rogifan

I haven't read any Prince books. The only one I ever would have red was his and sadly that will never happen.
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Reply #142 posted 03/15/17 5:49pm

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ndipity

I wonder if this picture is in the book? biggrin



photo Mayte_Garcia_3_zpsddvjceug.jpg

The world's problems like climate change can only be solved through strategic long-term thinking, not expediency. In other words all the govts. need sacking!

If you can add value to someone's life then why not. Especially if it colors their days...
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Reply #143 posted 03/15/17 5:50pm

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Or these ones... lurking


photo 10518859_10152649064534874_6478278951689276391_n_zpsl8v9qjqc.jpg

The world's problems like climate change can only be solved through strategic long-term thinking, not expediency. In other words all the govts. need sacking!

If you can add value to someone's life then why not. Especially if it colors their days...
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Reply #144 posted 03/15/17 5:52pm

BillieBalloon

fortuneandserendipity said:

I wonder if this picture is in the book? biggrin





photo Mayte_Garcia_3_zpsddvjceug.jpg




Does that say Jesus on her ass?
Baby, you're a star.

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Reply #145 posted 03/15/17 5:53pm

kingricefan

Mayte has every right to have her story told. My God, people, how can you be so judgemental about her? Can you even imagine the amount of pain that both she and Prince went through with the death of their first born child? To have this happen to a couple who were in the public eye and have the media frenzy to deal with on top of their baby's death? Do any of you remember that a criminal investigation was started for the simple fact that the wrong time of death was listed on the death certificate? So, not only has your first born child died, now you have to deal with the media and an official investigation on top of it all. Both Prince and Mayte were raked over the coals for weeks. It's no wonder that Prince wouldn't acknowledge the passing of their child. And Mayte wasn't allowed to talk about it either? No wonder she still suffers. It's no wonder that their marriage crumbled after this all happened. Could any of you survive intact with all of this? By the way, the book was supposed to be released last year, but the publishers requested that it be 'delayed' until its current release date. Mayte probably had no choice but to go along with their request. So she's going to make some money from it? Big deal. We all need money to survive. Money doesn't take away the pain that she must feel. I hope she doesn't ever come on here and read what some of you have written. You should be ashamed of yourselves. I really doubt that Prince would approve of what has been thrown Mayte's way, even if he wouldn't approve of her book. The money might make her life a little easier, but she still lives with her pain. Her first child was born with defects and died. Have some respect for her pain. Live for love. Walk in someone else's shoes.

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Reply #146 posted 03/15/17 5:56pm

BillieBalloon

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Or these ones... lurking




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eek

Are you serious?

Shes wearing Ps underwear!!

I can really see the look of love on her face there.
Baby, you're a star.

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Reply #147 posted 03/15/17 5:59pm

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BillieBalloon said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

Or these ones... lurking


photo 10518859_10152649064534874_6478278951689276391_n_zpsl8v9qjqc.jpg

eek Are you serious? Shes wearing Ps underwear!! I can really see the look of love on her face there.


Old flame, ya see... Never forget touched

The world's problems like climate change can only be solved through strategic long-term thinking, not expediency. In other words all the govts. need sacking!

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Reply #148 posted 03/15/17 6:00pm

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BillieBalloon said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

I wonder if this picture is in the book? biggrin



photo Mayte_Garcia_3_zpsddvjceug.jpg

Does that say Jesus on her ass?

Yes God is love. And I love her butt smile

The world's problems like climate change can only be solved through strategic long-term thinking, not expediency. In other words all the govts. need sacking!

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Reply #149 posted 03/15/17 6:02pm

bilbolives

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_PRINCE_EX_WIFE_BABY_MNOL-?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

The Associated Press is also reporting on the People magazine excerpt of Mayte's memoir.

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