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Reply #120 posted 03/28/17 9:59am

PurpleDiamonds
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precioux said:



MMJas said:




laurarichardson said:


MMJas said: --POA and Patrick Cousins stealing the church makes me think he had some sliming people hanging around.



Jubilant Judas?



That's exactly what I said when all this backpedaling came out about in regards to Phedera's questionable actions (i.e. saying she stopped working for P in 2015 on her FB page)...never mind the 65 boxes of work that Cousins is being subponeaed to turm over.


Agree you don't lie unless you are hiding something.
If the POA is Phaedra she settled out of court...just adds to more questions.
Van could also be the Jubliant judas as his face was all over the tv the day Prince was found. Never knew who Van was until then.
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Reply #121 posted 03/28/17 10:09am

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PurpleDiamonds1 said:

precioux said:



MMJas said:




laurarichardson said:


MMJas said: --POA and Patrick Cousins stealing the church makes me think he had some sliming people hanging around.



Jubilant Judas?



That's exactly what I said when all this backpedaling came out about in regards to Phedera's questionable actions (i.e. saying she stopped working for P in 2015 on her FB page)...never mind the 65 boxes of work that Cousins is being subponeaed to turm over.


Agree you don't lie unless you are hiding something.
If the POA is Phaedra she settled out of court...just adds to more questions.
Van could also be the Jubliant judas as his face was all over the tv the day Prince was found. Never knew who Van was until then.

--Something was going on because I remember when Van was trying to get the job of PA he said he stopped working for Prince 8 days before he died. I thought this was odd and wondered why. We also have not seen or heard from him in a while. If someone had POA over Prince there must be documents somewhere that say so and I wonder if Tidal has copies on some proof that were able to have this person sign docs on Prince's behalf. I just cannot imagine that he would agree to something like that. I know that George Clinton had a stituation were an old manager forged his name on documents and checks and it took years to resolved.
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Reply #122 posted 03/28/17 11:00am

nelcp777

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

precioux said:

That's exactly what I said when all this backpedaling came out about in regards to Phedera's questionable actions (i.e. saying she stopped working for P in 2015 on her FB page)...never mind the 65 boxes of work that Cousins is being subponeaed to turm over.

Agree you don't lie unless you are hiding something. If the POA is Phaedra she settled out of court...just adds to more questions. Van could also be the Jubliant judas as his face was all over the tv the day Prince was found. Never knew who Van was until then.

The POA may explain why Phaedra was trying to get the SA to sign off her from being held liable. There was a reason she pushed that in her settlement/claim.

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Reply #123 posted 03/28/17 11:14am

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nelcp777 said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

precioux said: Agree you don't lie unless you are hiding something. If the POA is Phaedra she settled out of court...just adds to more questions. Van could also be the Jubliant judas as his face was all over the tv the day Prince was found. Never knew who Van was until then.

The POA may explain why Phaedra was trying to get the SA to sign off her from being held liable. There was a reason she pushed that in her settlement/claim.

She could still be held liable if something sneaky was going on. I find it interesting that he had equity in Tidal. You guys realize if Tidal gets sold a lot of money could be coming to the estate.

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Reply #124 posted 03/28/17 11:32am

1Sasha

It could also be that someone gave Prince a stack of documents to sign, saying it was one thing when in actuality that POA was in the stack. Some lawyer had to draw it up. Who isn't talking right now?

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Reply #125 posted 03/28/17 11:37am

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1Sasha said:

It could also be that someone gave Prince a stack of documents to sign, saying it was one thing when in actuality that POA was in the stack. Some lawyer had to draw it up. Who isn't talking right now?

Well somone has it because I doubt Tidal would have gone into business with him and gave him 3 million if they did not know for sure that this mystery person had signature authority. Tidal is basing their whole case on this document.

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Reply #126 posted 03/28/17 11:39am

1Sasha

I agree, LR.

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Reply #127 posted 03/28/17 11:42am

nelcp777

laurarichardson said:

1Sasha said:

It could also be that someone gave Prince a stack of documents to sign, saying it was one thing when in actuality that POA was in the stack. Some lawyer had to draw it up. Who isn't talking right now?

Well somone has it because I doubt Tidal would have gone into business with him and gave him 3 million if they did not know for sure that this mystery person had signature authority.

The money has to be tracable. I find it hard to believe that Tidal gave up $3M in cash. The parent company would want to know where $3M went. Tidal could provide the payment details (if a such payments were made). I would imagine the Court will have Tidal provide that.

1Sasha, I agree with you. Phaedra could have pulled a fast one, or Van, we do not know. The documents will have to be provided to the Court for the case. This will be interesting to see how it plays out.

As for Cousins and his 65 boxes, I wonder what goodies he has in there. Hopefully the Heirs will sue him for his questionable actions.

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Reply #128 posted 03/28/17 11:52am

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nelcp777 said:

laurarichardson said:

Well somone has it because I doubt Tidal would have gone into business with him and gave him 3 million if they did not know for sure that this mystery person had signature authority.

The money has to be tracable. I find it hard to believe that Tidal gave up $3M in cash. The parent company would want to know where $3M went. Tidal could provide the payment details (if a such payments were made). I would imagine the Court will have Tidal provide that.

1Sasha, I agree with you. Phaedra could have pulled a fast one, or Van, we do not know. The documents will have to be provided to the Court for the case. This will be interesting to see how it plays out.

As for Cousins and his 65 boxes, I wonder what goodies he has in there. Hopefully the Heirs will sue him for his questionable actions.

Tidal already provide the dates of payment and I am sure they have provided the proof if they provided the dates. I believe their exhibits were redacted. They are not going to proceed with this case without evidence that an exchange occurred between Prince and Tidal.

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Reply #129 posted 03/28/17 1:22pm

rogifan

https://www.wsj.com/artic...1490693407

So who is leaking this information and why are Londell McMillan and Charles Koppelman willing to speak on record while everyone else is anonymous? One would assume if they're getting a commission on whatever deal was done they would want the best deal possible as it would mean the most money for them.

This whole thing is weird. I follow the PRNFamily twitter account (which I believe is run by Omarr) and they do a lot of promotion of Paisley Park museum and events. They're heavily promotion the Celebration event and a dance til dawn event associated with it. But when it comes to his music and all those deals they're silent. If you only followed that account you'd have no idea that Prince music is now available on streaming services. At some point they're going to have to accept the deals put in place and deal with the vault, won't they?
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Reply #130 posted 03/28/17 1:54pm

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1Sasha said:

It could also be that someone gave Prince a stack of documents to sign, saying it was one thing when in actuality that POA was in the stack. Some lawyer had to draw it up. Who isn't talking right now?


Van, Phaedra, Rhonda Trotter, Damaris, Meron ...are all silent right now.
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Reply #131 posted 03/28/17 1:55pm

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rogifan said:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/auctions-for-princes-music-rights-had-some-bidders-feeling-left-out-1490693407

So who is leaking this information and why are Londell McMillan and Charles Koppelman willing to speak on record while everyone else is anonymous? One would assume if they're getting a commission on whatever deal was done they would want the best deal possible as it would mean the most money for them.

This whole thing is weird. I follow the PRNFamily twitter account (which I believe is run by Omarr) and they do a lot of promotion of Paisley Park museum and events. They're heavily promotion the Celebration event and a dance til dawn event associated with it. But when it comes to his music and all those deals they're silent. If you only followed that account you'd have no idea that Prince music is now available on streaming services. At some point they're going to have to accept the deals put in place and deal with the vault, won't they?

--I will have to sign in later and read it later but you know the family has said that Londell cut deals that benefited him and not the estate and a subpoena has been issued to see all of the deals he made and what his cut was. The older sibs are coming to his defense for some strange reason. It is actually not the sibs job to promote the streaming platforms I would hope a marketing plan was included in the deals and the platforms should be taking care of that not the Nelson sibs. I am glad WB did not get it but I bet the fix was in for Universal and some sneaky business took place.
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Reply #132 posted 03/28/17 1:57pm

PurpleDiamonds
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nelcp777 said:



laurarichardson said:




1Sasha said:


It could also be that someone gave Prince a stack of documents to sign, saying it was one thing when in actuality that POA was in the stack. Some lawyer had to draw it up. Who isn't talking right now?



Well somone has it because I doubt Tidal would have gone into business with him and gave him 3 million if they did not know for sure that this mystery person had signature authority.



The money has to be tracable. I find it hard to believe that Tidal gave up $3M in cash. The parent company would want to know where $3M went. Tidal could provide the payment details (if a such payments were made). I would imagine the Court will have Tidal provide that.



1Sasha, I agree with you. Phaedra could have pulled a fast one, or Van, we do not know. The documents will have to be provided to the Court for the case. This will be interesting to see how it plays out.



As for Cousins and his 65 boxes, I wonder what goodies he has in there. Hopefully the Heirs will sue him for his questionable actions.


Does seem as someone pulled a fast one.
Phaedra and Van have not been honest with when they stopped working with P. Why if there isn't something shady going on
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Reply #133 posted 03/28/17 2:07pm

morningsong

Damn, a lot of pot stirrers. One random sentence and everybody's is written off as a criminal.

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Reply #134 posted 03/28/17 2:22pm

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morningsong said:

Damn, a lot of pot stirrers. One random sentence and everybody's is written off as a criminal.


--Look if no one has done anything wrong there would be no need for subpoenas.
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Reply #135 posted 03/28/17 2:31pm

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laurarichardson said:

morningsong said:

Damn, a lot of pot stirrers. One random sentence and everybody's is written off as a criminal.


--Look if no one has done anything wrong there would be no need for subpoenas.

And a couple of them got caught lying...as well as being silent
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Reply #136 posted 03/28/17 2:44pm

morningsong

laurarichardson said:

morningsong said:

Damn, a lot of pot stirrers. One random sentence and everybody's is written off as a criminal.

--Look if no one has done anything wrong there would be no need for subpoenas.




Soooo, by that reasoning anyone who gets supoenaed is guilty of something. I don't know what justice system you are accustom to but I'm kind of partial to the whole innocent until proven guilty variety.

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Reply #137 posted 03/28/17 3:00pm

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morningsong said:



laurarichardson said:


morningsong said:

Damn, a lot of pot stirrers. One random sentence and everybody's is written off as a criminal.



--Look if no one has done anything wrong there would be no need for subpoenas.




Soooo, by that reasoning anyone who gets supoenaed is guilty of something. I don't know what justice system you are accustom to but I'm kind of partial to the whole innocent until proven guilty variety.


--Londell should voluntarily let everyone involved know if he his getting a cut of any of the deals. There should be no need for a subpoena in the first place. Be open and be honest. I would hope that being honest in front of the court is not to much to ask. In addition, he should be asking the court to quash it not the sibs. I think he is letting them do it so he don't get caught with his pants down but I think Omarr and Tyka are on this like pit bulls and sooner or later the truth is going to come out.
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Reply #138 posted 03/28/17 3:11pm

morningsong

laurarichardson said:

morningsong said:




Soooo, by that reasoning anyone who gets supoenaed is guilty of something. I don't know what justice system you are accustom to but I'm kind of partial to the whole innocent until proven guilty variety.

--Londell should voluntarily let everyone involved know if he his getting a cut of any of the deals. There should be no need for a subpoena in the first place. Be open and be honest. I would hope that being honest in front of the court is not to much to ask. In addition, he should be asking the court to quash it not the sibs. I think he is letting them do it so he don't get caught with his pants down but I think Omarr and Tyka are on this like pit bulls and sooner or later the truth is going to come out.



I think that's why the sibs are ready to divvy up so they can go their separate ways as far as who's paying what lawyer. Seems like they all (lawyers) are getting a cut of the whole pie.

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Reply #139 posted 03/28/17 3:14pm

rogifan

laurarichardson said:

rogifan said:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/auctions-for-princes-music-rights-had-some-bidders-feeling-left-out-1490693407

So who is leaking this information and why are Londell McMillan and Charles Koppelman willing to speak on record while everyone else is anonymous? One would assume if they're getting a commission on whatever deal was done they would want the best deal possible as it would mean the most money for them.

This whole thing is weird. I follow the PRNFamily twitter account (which I believe is run by Omarr) and they do a lot of promotion of Paisley Park museum and events. They're heavily promotion the Celebration event and a dance til dawn event associated with it. But when it comes to his music and all those deals they're silent. If you only followed that account you'd have no idea that Prince music is now available on streaming services. At some point they're going to have to accept the deals put in place and deal with the vault, won't they?

--I will have to sign in later and read it later but you know the family has said that Londell cut deals that benefited him and not the estate and a subpoena has been issued to see all of the deals he made and what his cut was. The older sibs are coming to his defense for some strange reason. It is actually not the sibs job to promote the streaming platforms I would hope a marketing plan was included in the deals and the platforms should be taking care of that not the Nelson sibs. I am glad WB did not get it but I bet the fix was in for Universal and some sneaky business took place.

Is it their job to promote the PP museum and Celebration event? What's the differnce? His music matters as much if not more so than anything else.
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Reply #140 posted 03/28/17 4:20pm

morningsong

rogifan said:

laurarichardson said:
--I will have to sign in later and read it later but you know the family has said that Londell cut deals that benefited him and not the estate and a subpoena has been issued to see all of the deals he made and what his cut was. The older sibs are coming to his defense for some strange reason. It is actually not the sibs job to promote the streaming platforms I would hope a marketing plan was included in the deals and the platforms should be taking care of that not the Nelson sibs. I am glad WB did not get it but I bet the fix was in for Universal and some sneaky business took place.
Is it their job to promote the PP museum and Celebration event? What's the differnce? His music matters as much if not more so than anything else.



If this is about PRNFamily, they seem to be trying to gear up for a website and other things to promote Prince music, it's just right now it's about what's happening currently, not the court stuff. I saw they posted when they went on Shelia E's cruise and a few other things. They have little contest and questionaires

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Reply #141 posted 03/28/17 4:58pm

morningsong

morningsong said:

rogifan said:

laurarichardson said: Is it their job to promote the PP museum and Celebration event? What's the differnce? His music matters as much if not more so than anything else.



If this is about PRNFamily, they seem to be trying to gear up for a website and other things to promote Prince music, it's just right now it's about what's happening currently, not the court stuff. I saw they posted when they went on Shelia E's cruise and a few other things. They have little contest and questionaires

http://prnfamily.com/

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Reply #142 posted 03/28/17 5:01pm

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rogifan said:

laurarichardson said:


--I will have to sign in later and read it later but you know the family has said that Londell cut deals that benefited him and not the estate and a subpoena has been issued to see all of the deals he made and what his cut was. The older sibs are coming to his defense for some strange reason. It is actually not the sibs job to promote the streaming platforms I would hope a marketing plan was included in the deals and the platforms should be taking care of that not the Nelson sibs. I am glad WB did not get it but I bet the fix was in for Universal and some sneaky business took place.

Is it their job to promote the PP museum and Celebration event? What's the differnce? His music matters as much if not more so than anything else.

--As the admins UMG gets to collect a fee (their cut) they are suppose to be promoting Prince's music because that is what they get paid for UMG works for the estate the estate does not work for UMG. I know Dr. Funkenberry said that Prince left UMG because he did not feel they were doing enough about copyright infringement and when they do something in resulted in the dancing baby mess. We have not seen any merchandise outside of Paisly Park stuff and loads of music is still on YOUTUBE. So far the are pretty much were they where we Orince took his music away from them.
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Reply #143 posted 03/28/17 5:02pm

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morningsong said:



morningsong said:




rogifan said:


laurarichardson said: Is it their job to promote the PP museum and Celebration event? What's the differnce? His music matters as much if not more so than anything else.



If this is about PRNFamily, they seem to be trying to gear up for a website and other things to promote Prince music, it's just right now it's about what's happening currently, not the court stuff. I saw they posted when they went on Shelia E's cruise and a few other things. They have little contest and questionaires




http://prnfamily.com/


I believe the family did get the right to do somethings outside of UMG.
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Reply #144 posted 03/28/17 6:20pm

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laurarichardson said:

--Something was going on because I remember when Van was trying to get the job of PA he said he stopped working for Prince 8 days before he died. I thought this was odd and wondered why. We also have not seen or heard from him in a while. If someone had POA over Prince there must be documents somewhere that say so and I wonder if Tidal has copies on some proof that were able to have this person sign docs on Prince's behalf. I just cannot imagine that he would agree to something like that. I know that George Clinton had a stituation were an old manager forged his name on documents and checks and it took years to resolved.

I think Van meant the last time he worked for P was 8 days before his death.

P asked Van to prepare the press release about the emergency plane landing in Moline.

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Reply #145 posted 03/28/17 6:40pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



laurarichardson said:


--Something was going on because I remember when Van was trying to get the job of PA he said he stopped working for Prince 8 days before he died. I thought this was odd and wondered why. We also have not seen or heard from him in a while. If someone had POA over Prince there must be documents somewhere that say so and I wonder if Tidal has copies on some proof that were able to have this person sign docs on Prince's behalf. I just cannot imagine that he would agree to something like that. I know that George Clinton had a stituation were an old manager forged his name on documents and checks and it took years to resolved.

I think Van meant the last time he worked for P was 8 days before his death.


P asked Van to prepare the press release about the emergency plane landing in Moline.


Did Van prepare one because another lady came out in front of Paisley Park to announce is death and she was listed as his PR person.
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Reply #146 posted 03/28/17 7:01pm

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laurarichardson said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

I think Van meant the last time he worked for P was 8 days before his death.

P asked Van to prepare the press release about the emergency plane landing in Moline.

Did Van prepare one because another lady came out in front of Paisley Park to announce is death and she was listed as his PR person.

I saw Van on a show and he said he P asked him to prepare the press release.

I didnt know a woman came out front to announce his death.

But that day is a haze to me.

Is there a video? I would like to see who it was.

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Reply #147 posted 03/28/17 9:12pm

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morningsong said:



morningsong said:




rogifan said:


laurarichardson said: Is it their job to promote the PP museum and Celebration event? What's the differnce? His music matters as much if not more so than anything else.



If this is about PRNFamily, they seem to be trying to gear up for a website and other things to promote Prince music, it's just right now it's about what's happening currently, not the court stuff. I saw they posted when they went on Shelia E's cruise and a few other things. They have little contest and questionaires




http://prnfamily.com/


Thanks for sharing the link.
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Reply #148 posted 03/28/17 9:24pm

PurpleDiamonds
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Did Van ever say why he stopped working for Prince 8 days before his death?
(Did P fire him, did he quit or is it bs?
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Reply #149 posted 03/28/17 10:15pm

precioux

PurpleDiamonds1 said:Did Van ever say why he stopped working for Prince 8 days before his death? (Did P fire him, did he quit or is it bs? refer to reply#144

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